Kenny Arthur
 

Just wondering how his first season was down there, I know he had the injury but overall how do rate his performances?

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This says it all really:
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He's been magnificent. The best goalkeeper we've ever had by far.

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He doesn't get that title until he saves a shot with his head :p
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Dunno about that. Jamo was tops for me.

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I was talking about goalkeeping ability rather than sentimentality. As far as ability is concerned there's no question. Kenny Arthur is just another class compared to Jamo.

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Darren Randolph for me

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For me, best keepers (ability wise) :

1. Kenny Arthur
2. Stuart Jones
3. Rob Eliot
4. Darren Randolph
5. Bavs
6. David Martin
7. Jamo
8. JK
9. Polish Kaz
10. Fearo

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arthar is one of the best in lage 2
it is just a shame the defance are not that good

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1 david martin (fantastic)
2 robert elliot ( very gd )
3 darren randolph ( gd )
4 kenny arthur (gd )
5 ian dunbavin(ok)

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As a keeper my list list stands as such

1. Kenny Arthur
2. David Martin
3. Darren Randolph
4. Rob Elliot
5. Stuart Jones
6. Jon Kennedy
7. Jaime Speare

I'm not including Fearo as I believe it's unfair to the lad to put him in the list when he wasn't given a first team chance.

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Paul Collings was the best 'keeper we ever had. No contest I'm afraid.

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my order would be

1. Steve Berryman
2. Berti Bossu
3. Paul Crichton.



Seriously though, Rob Elliot would be my personal favourite over the last few years. The sheer number of top saves he made were the difference between top 10 and running away with the title. He made World Class saves every game.

Kenny Arthur has been class though. As mentioned a few times, when crosses come into the box you no longer shudder or wince. He is more than able to make top saves as well (as does every keeper to be fair) but I think his positioning may be suspect. A few weeks ago we conceded about 12 goals in five matches and Coley, the Telegraph and the Observer all commented that we had conceded so many yet Kenny had not been at fault - or could do very little, for any of them. I personally think that a goalkeeper can do something about everything other one off shots such as free kicks or penalties that are put beyond his reach. From open play you can always alter the angle etc so thats why I think his positioning is a bit suspect.

Having said that, when he has been here a couple of seasons or so there is no doubt that we will all come to think of him as the greatest custodian of Stanley goals ever. In the last few decades. Ever.

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I wasn't being sentimental, and I was excluding loaned players. How on earth can you put Bav above Jamo??

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Jamo cant kick
Bavs cant kick or catch

Jamo wins

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

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kenny is the man - now go and buy his gloves.

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Sentimentally I love Jamo but his punch outs had me cringing every time...

But really glad we have Kenny now

but who knows what could have happened if poor stuart hadn't been forced to retire through injury I thought he was absolute class in the short time he was with us and was gutted when i heard he had made the difficult decision to retire

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Simple. Dunbavin is a better keeper than Jamo.
Jamo is a great bloke and saw us through some good days, but at the end of the day he is/was a non-league keeper. You can't fairly mention him in the same breath as Kenny Arthur who could probably do a good job in the Championship.

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Jamo was non league only because we couldn't make it worthwhile for him to go full time. I don't buy the argument that non-league keepers can't play in the league, just as you don't think Kenny couldn't play at a higher level. Are you saying that there are no keepers in the Conference better than any in the league?
If not, then Bav v. Jamo is just a matter of opinion, then.

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I wasn't saying that 'no non-league keeper can make it in the league'. I was stating that in my opinion, Jamo found his level in the non-league game and couldn't have gone higher.
Again, at the end of the day it is just my opinion, but I thought that when Dunbavin was getting decent coaching from Ian Wilcock and had a good run between the sticks, he seemed for the most part a more than competent league 'keeper. I think he gets a lot of stick undeservedly. That's why I put Bavs over Jamo in my list.

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Fair enough!

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King Kenny hasn't been without his dodgy moments, who wouldn't with our defence in front of him ? He's only human , but without doubt he's the best keeper we've got

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We're looking to sign a goalkeeper........;););)

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I know of one we could let you have, but (a) it ain't Kenny, and (b) you've already had a look at him before... and he wasn't good enough for you then!

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back to Kenny, i just found out who his new next door neighbour is gonna be. He may be requesting a transfer after all!!!!!


(its nobody on here BTW)

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So go on, spill the beans or are you going to having hanging in suspense or is this a competition to guess the neighbour?:D

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That's not a bad idea - at least it would pass some time away till the start of next season - is anyone else bored yet? :)

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yeh am bord nothing to talk about no news about who we signed or anything like that nothing to look foward to on saturdays now!

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King Arthur is class. Sheer class. That one handed save against Peterborough a la David Seaman against Sheffield United confirmed it fr me.

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what about the times Ian kept us in games , think Kenny is nowt spec . his kicking is awful and he punches like a ferret with his balls removed . wouldnt bother me if he left .

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Dunbavin - good shot stopper, full-stop. Not even a good Conference standard keeper.

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sorry guys, like I said its nobody on here. Its a lad I work with who has form (as a five year old) for twice burning his house down!! Kenny will have to be careful he doesn't lose any matches .....


Kennys punching and kicking are infinitely better than Bav's. Bavs is a tremendous shot stopper but his punching and kicking invited so many follow up shots that it was unreal. What about how many times was Bavs rooted to his line when crosses flew in the six yard box? Kenny comes and Kenny claims - end of story.

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like bury fans sang to kenny ' you fat b######' . Ian was looking better with run in team . should have stayed in team but as always coleman kicked sand in his face .

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Dunbavin shouldn't even have been in the side as long as he was. As soon as the mistakes started Fearon should have had a go - otherwise why have him here? The point of a deputy is that they are there to push you or replace you when you start have bad games. Bavs gave goals away, he doesn't claim crosses, he doesn't instruct the defence, he can't punch or kick yet he got the full run until Kenny was fit again.

I like Bavs but for me he is an emergency keeper only.

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kenny cant kick or punch , bav needed more support from clayton end not abuse when he made slightest error .

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bav is an average conference goalkeeper - there is no disgrace in that. but he shouldnt be a 1st choice in league 2, just not consistent enough.

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bit of coaching he will be top . kenny is a average keeper

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Ah 'The Manual of Delusional Goalkeeping Coaching' by Ova Mihead, i've read that one, but I much prefer 'The All Round Keepers Guide to Good Catching, Shot Stopping and Commanding Your Area' by Winnie A. Lotta.

Whilst Bavs reads the first, Kenny obviously reads the latter.

Kenny is class, Bavs can warm his butt on the bench all season.

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kenny is not class , overrated scottish keeper .

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Sparkie has it right; King Kenny is the ultimate professional and we are so lucky to have him on board.

From the minute he was admitted to A&E in Bradford he was planning his return.

Bavs & Jamo may be top fellas but IMHO they don't match Kenny for the preparation and attention to detail.

Kenny WILL go upwards and onwards, hopefully he'll still be a red:)

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Nail on the head Sir! :alright:

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DM instead of boringly repeating opinions which NO-ONE shares with you, look at the two keepers' pedigrees, One rejected by Morecambe, Shrewsbury, Halifax and Scarborough - all of whom were operating at Conference level when he was there: the other, 13 years at his first club where he became, and still is, a legend. Need I say more?

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kenny is comfortable at league 2.
any higher and he may struggle.

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I agree with that, Davo. Kenny is by no means perfect, but he's about 500% better than his No 2!

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over rated scottish kipper hands keeper

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i think bavs should still be given a chance, as if kenny is making mistakes and costing us goals than why shouldnt bavs have a go between the sticks thats what he is there for,

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While I agree with the principles of the statement above, currently Kenny hasn't been making many mistakes, unlike our seive of a defence. A keeper can only do so much when whats infront of him is at times completely inept!!!

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And Sky Sports news have just released the news that....

'KENNY STAYS FOR A FURTHER 12 MONTHS !!!!'


Which can only be GOOD NEWS for ALL concerned !!!.

'What me worry?' ...Not with Kenny between the sticks I don't !.http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...ons/icon10.gif

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i thought it was wrong for coley to kick bavs out the side as soon as kenny was fit when bavs had played most of the season and he had been doing quite well between the sticks with the goal keeping coach, like you say A keeper can only do so much when whats infront of him is at times completely inept!!!

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Anyone who sees Kenny as a replaceable or average keeper needs shooting.
If it wasn't for Ken we'd have been relegated with 150+ goals put past us. Simple as.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

dunt think it would of been that bad! he didnt play for half the season anyway! and when he did come back we still lost games so, ok defenace aint been good this season but if hes top class than he could of done better! i dont think he was fit enough when he came back at the time he did think he should of stayed out of the first team for abit longer

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One of the Best Signings we will make this Summer:)

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Obviously you don't know who Dunbavin is or you have never watched him play. He cannot organise his defence, he cannot catch a ball, he cannot kick a ball, all in all he is not up to Football League standard. Put him on the transfer list and see who comes in for him. I bet he wouldn't even get a Conference side to sign him. Kenny Arthur is Stanley's number one, and I for one hope that he will be for a long time to come yet.

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if kenny is that good why is he here and not playing at higher standard???he is a average keeper .

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So what you are saying is that anyone who plays for Stanley cannot be that good or they wouldn't be playing for us. He may be an average keeper in your mind but if he is then that makes Dunbavin below average. Just out of interest who would you have as Stanley's number one keeper?

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kenny came here to put himself in shop window because he is a above average keeper in scotland but down here he his average . I would play Ian from start , we have no leader in centre of defence thats were the problems lie . Kenny didnt win us games , how many times did Ian keep us in games ? Ian made mistakes but so did Kenny .

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bavs is a good 2nd choice - but has been given countless chances and overall has fallen short.

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Kenny is not only the ultimate professional, but also takes the fans to heart, remember when the fans from partick came down, he made sure he met them all after the match and spent time chatting to them. End of season do, he was the only first team player that stayed to practically the end and only player to join the osc.

And he has been saying way before the end of the season, that he wanted to stay at stanley

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only reason he is staying is because no one wants him . true pro ?? I remember him having a bit of a slnging match with some fans behind goal . It was late on in season but cant remember which game it was .

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How many side of a coin DM?

Let it go! Chill!:)

Or like your hero drop it!!:eek:

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you be saying aswad is a top left back next

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Great thread this... when someone says virtually the same thing NINE times.... maybe he just can't thinkof anything else! It's no wonder nobody talks to him in Whalley if all he does is repeat himself over and over again, if all he does is repeat himself over and over againif all he does is repeat himself over and over again if all he does is repeat himself over and over again if all he does is repeat himself over and over again if all he does is repeat himself over and over again if all he does is repeat himself over and over again if all he does is repeat himself over and over again if all he does is repeat himself over and over again if all he does is repeat himself over and over again over and over again over and over again over and over again over and over again over and over again over and over again over and over again over and over again again again again again again again

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Was hoping he had lightened up and come to his senses, but no, back to the DM we all know and loathe.:eek:

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utter tosh, once more...I expect no less :rolleyes: