Craney to Morcambe????
 

Hi I was talking to a m8 of mine today who is well in at Morcambe and he reckons they have tabled two bids for Craney. Don't know how true this is but he was adamant and not usually one to bullsh*t. Anybody heard anything more about this who can confirm if it's true or not???

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Everyone knows how good Craney is (or was) before he went in search of greener grass, returning to you lot a mere shadow of his former self and really poor against us at the F.E.S (out of position granted)
Can't see it happening myself :rolleyz8:
there's only ever been one player in your side i'd be over the moon at signing and that's Mr Mullin purely because he's one of the best in the business.

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:) if what you say is true and i have no reason to dissbalieve you, then sure why not with the money on offer it could be used to buy kemp from the shrews and a new partener up front for PM,and get barry back,:)

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:) your right Yonmon,it was just a thought!!!with us having no cash to splash out on transfers,:)

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i hope he stays and plays like he did before he went! if he does play in the right position then there is no reason we cant get higher in the league am not saying one player makes a team but when he does put the effort in and on form and socres goals like at morecambe! than we will get higher in the league he is under a 3 year contact so we would get alot of money if he went which i hope he does not want to go

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we heard a week or two ago that Sammy had offered a player + cash for an attacking goal scoring midfielder and I thought it might be Craney.

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Rip his arm off Coleman.

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Its surprising that nothng has been heard about this in the media, they usually catch on to anything like this

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they usually read it on here first ;)

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Oh it will be branch your after! You can have him , its sad to see him go to a rival club however i think we will just cope:(;):rolleyes:

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If Craney played in his natural position of attacking midfield every game then he would still be at swansea.

We have to play him there next season

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It was mentioned on Radio Lancs earlier tonight that Craney had been seen at Christie Park again, Coleman denied any knowledge of why he was there.

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The headline in "The Morecambe Visitor" today is all about Morecambe hoping to sign Ian Craney.

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I'm hoping my knee will dramatically heal and I will loose 20+ years thus being able to trial for Stanley.

...hope springs eternal...

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You never know,could be player plus cash,and we may end up with a midfielder who can run,tackle and even jump and win a header.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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very likely to be cash + a player as reported earlier in the Summer.

Depends what part of your team Coley wants to strengthen. There are a number of players here who may be not starting X1 such as defenders Mike Howard and Dave Artell or midfielders such as Garry Hunter , Paul Lloyd etc or forwards such as Wayne Curtis or Matt Blinkhorn.

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Why would we want any of your players who are not starting X1, if they are not good enough for you then surely they are not good enough for the team who did the double over you last season.

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http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/morecamb...ney.4269936.jp

See your point but..... We've taken one player who was released by Bury and another who was released by Darlo and we may take more 'released' players yet. And we're doing all that to try to make us generally stronger as a squad.
It's about where you have a lot of strength in depth already and where you might need supplementing a bit.
We have offered cash for Craney and have let Accy know which of our players may be available. Coley will have to weigh up what he could do with the cash (and your club has gone on record as saying it's not 'flush' with dosh at the moment) and whether any of our players might enable him to provide more strength in a particular position and give you competition for places.
It's also about Craney's own views.
A move to us would certainly be a sideways step initially but we would be (I'd imagine, or we wouldn't bother even inquiring) prepared to offer him more money and he 'may' see our current off-field strength and the impending move to a brand new stadium with state of the art training facilities as evidence of better potential for him to progress up this division and further over the next few years.

Good luck to you and Johnny Coleman (Football Genius) for next season whatever happens, always enjoy our matches.

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Sorry (couldn't edit original as the permitted 'time' to do so had expired)

But, as a PS

Unless your club has given us permission to talk to Craney personally, I would very much doubt that he's been at Christie Park. I may be being naive but I believe we conduct our business properly (and I understand our officials value a good relationship with yours, despite our rivalries).

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A six figure sum plus a player like Craney might get Baker away from us.

And, yes, Morcambe? Must be somewhere near Ackrinton.

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...797286,00.html


Deal done!........welll nearly!!!!!!! (so I've just heard from club source)

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Money and blinkhorn wouldnt be a bad deal!!

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Can't see this happening somehow.

Not from IC's perspective but from those MFC players who would be part of the money plus player(s).

There again it depends on being guranteed first team soccer which with 26 contracted players to date will mean that some will be surplus to requirement...which was always going to be the case. Better to play in a first team, wherever, than to play a bit part when circumstances dictate.

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Craney is also on a long contract and we could be looking to off-load people like him.

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from the point of view of a) what I believe we are paying him b) the size of a fee likely to needed to get him and c) his form in League 2 for us (although out of position in many games) then I'd offload him straight away. His wages alone would pay two good strikers in and the fee would pay the wage bill for two months.

But Morecambe, Rochdale or Hereford? you're not having him so sod off!!!!

On a similar note wh yoh why didn't we get Perkins when he was available and had intimated taht he would come? Stockport apparently have lodged a £150k bid for him.

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I thought he had ALREADY signed for Colchester????

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Perkins was never Stanley bound. I know that for a fact.

Redskin is right. Perkins has already signed for Colchester.

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I couldn't agree more Macca. Craney has been off his game ever since he cam back and 3+ years of carrying a player isn't in Stanley's best interests.

If Craney does go, he can be replaced with more consistent and effective players. The question is, will we manage to do that?

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Gone to Colchester for an "undisclosed fee"

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As i've already said Craney is (when played in the right position) a real handful and has that ability to let fly even when he's given limited space and yes i'd like to see him in a Morecambe shirt but that would also be dependant on who they plan on offering as bait :hidewall:

Twiss in an Accy shirt would be the death of me :eek:

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its been on Sky Sports all night that Morecambe are in talks with Accy.

.... still the only reportings state that Stanley have turned down all bids for him and Coely does not expect it to happen. Craney is a popular lad in the dressing room and turned down Peterborough who were offering silly money for him (allegedly but entirely believable) so it seems to me that he isn't interested per se in the money, we don't want to lose him, and Morecambe do want to sign him. The ball is in our court and I hope we see a proper deal struck (if it happens), with proper money on the table.

i think Ian is a good pro and would be missed at the club, mainly by the playing staff, but if the deal is right for the football club then off he should pop.

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morecambe dont have proper money to spend, its hardly a step up in my eyes.

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It's a sideways step initially, that can't be denied. But as I said earlier if he's being offered more money and if he sees us as having more immediate potential for progress then he may take it as moving sideways now to have a better chance of moving upwards in a year or two, he's still only youngish.
And your statement about us not having the money shows you know absolutely nothing about our off-field set-up and our board. Our chairman and at least one of our directors have been involved in very major company takeovers within the last year, the chairman having sold personal shares in Umbro that were worth many, many millions of pounds - and they are all genuine Morecambe fans first and foremost.
We're very careful with it and will only do a deal if it's a sensible one - but it IS there.

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I understand your argument Shrimper, but if Craney was looking to 'move upwards', why did he come back to us when he could have gone to Peterborough? That would have been a guaranteed upward move. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

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Absolutely. Look we don't know what goes on in all these negotiations and we don't know what an individual player's 'important considerations' (family 'location' responsibilities, prospects of first team football all season etc) are.
I'm not saying for a moment that he WILL come to us just trying to put forward a view that it's not a totally daft suggestion (from both clubs' - and the player's - angle).

Good Luck chaps.

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Must admit I wondered that at the time and it seemed Ian must have really wanted to come back but once he was back he seemed to have lost interest and in a lot of games just seemed like he couldn't be bothered, I know he played out of position a lot of the time but then so did a lot of other players but at least they carried on trying. We had a lot of 'false dawns' and disappointments last season and I'm sorry but I reckon that the biggest one was Craney coming back - he just didn't live up to the hype that surrounded his return.

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See Fishy Site for the latest

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that reads a bit like "make us a decent offer and he's yours"

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Yea, me too :rolleyes:

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Something in excess of the £85,000 we paid Swansea. I agree.

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You've got short memories.

Swansea paid you £85K for him in installments.

Swansea let you have him back for the same amount that they'd paid you to date.

So, even if we offered £40K you still have a very healthy profit.

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It doesn't really matter how short my memory is, the fact is that the Chairman said this:

And what's the official source for your information on the installments?

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they can have him , might buy a few seats for new stand

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Well said that man! :hehetable Words of wisdom indeed

Might even stretch to a roof for the away fans too:dflam:

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I wouldn't go that far. Every village/town has their idiot and we all know that Clitheroe has more than its fair share. :D

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Send him a few Hollands from down the road and convert him :D

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DepecheMode (or Depressed Toad as he's known) isn't allowed to handle hot foods. :D

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Craneys done ****** all since hes come back so lets flog him and make a bit of cash to go towards buget for players . I can use a knife and fork now il have you know .

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it will be 'a bit' of cash if they do. Id want to keep him because 85,000 wont buy a player like craney. On paper he is in our top 4 players by a country mile.

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on paper we should have been a good side last season but we were crap so on paper counts for jack s### .

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I dont rate 3/4 of the squad for this level and didnt last season or the season before i was very very suprised at what the conference squad achieved. craney was played out of position majority of his half season with us. if they were superstars theyd be playing for a top 10 premier team. If i look on it as a premiership team fan there all crap and all the football league. Wed do well to replace craney for 85 grand.

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I do think that the Clubs stance on this one does appear to be the best one

Eric has said previously that every player has his price, but if a deal is to be done as sad as I would be to see Ian leave, if the money can be utilised to perhaps help bolster the Squad as well as providing something for the Development of the Club off the field that can only be a good thing surely.

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Observer
Craney is staying

JC - i think every player has got a price, but i wouldnt think morecambe would be able to afford the price i would put on craney.

EW - it was nowhere near enough, we would never be intersted.

hes not going I think unless it gets significantly higher than 85 grand.

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Oh dear. I feel like I've accidentally opened Pandora's Box. ;)

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Incorrect Posting so I've edited it lol

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Wycombe apparently are chasing him too. Well supposdly!

http://www.gasroom.co.uk/
and search craney

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Is that the same Pandora Hope who's the Barmaid in the 'Whalley Arms' TM ??....didn't know she had a Box though !!. But if she has, and you've managed to open it..accidentally or otherwise..WELL !! .:hehetable

'Cryptics are so puzzlin''....Alfred.E.Neumann.:confused:

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Very, very smutty Yonmon. ;)

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If Carl Baker goes to Stockport for big money as seems likely I think we will be back with a bid that Eric might accept.

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i dont want craney to go i like him think he is a good player and always belongs in a stanley shirt,

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But he has played crap... the fact clubs are even considering over 10k for him amazes me - flog him off to an idiot that'll have him

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If you remember the first season that we had Craney he couldn't even get in the starting line-up, but the following season he was a revelation!

If he stays with us for next season I sincerely hope that he recaptures his form. He owes us a good season and if he lives up to his true potential, he'll be a hero with us once again.

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Stanley are short on 'superstars' but Craney is one of only two that other teams in the League covet, he and Mullin (snr) are well respected players with rival clubs and fans.

.... but as others have said he owes us this year, and if is played right and gets his head down then we will do far better than we have done the last two years.

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Were the same with Jim Bentley and Twissy,

i'll get me coat :do-one:

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nah, you can keep Laurel and Hardy!

Jimmy B is the sort of player who does really well for his club because thats where his heart is, Jesus was the bit of class alongside him and he didn't fare very well when he moved on. Twiss? I'll let others do the calling on that long haired, bone idol gypo half breed with a good touch

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Jesus didn't fare very well when he left us but Jimbo had another very good season, even at the higher level.

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thats the point I am making Shrimper. Jimbo is a part of the furniture at Morecambe and because of that he would possibly struggle to replicate his form anywhere else - not on a skill or talent level but the extra 10% when it matters etc. We had a similar player in Jonathan Smith (albeit at a lower level). He wasn't short on the passion and it made up for many of his shortcomings, but when he moved on he wasn't the same player.

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Sorry - I thought you were meaning that Jim didn't play well when Jesus left. Bentley's just a good player. He was good at Telford and he has been from the first day he started with us. I think he'd be a good player at any team and would become 'part of the furniture' anywhere. He is a dedicated professional wherever he's at. He has more to his game than just passion.

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well lend him to us and we'll be the judge of it!

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I think its a win-win situation. Although Id be sad to see Ian go, if the price was too good to resist then Id cash in. But also, if he stays then that would also be excellent and hopefully well seee many more of his exocets a la Morecambe and Rotherham!!!

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Your Bentley is our Mullin...

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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the irony is - we could have signed carl baker for just £50,000.

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It would only be ironic if it had been true.

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it was true - stanley and morecambe where the 2 teams in for him.
stanley where scared of by the £50,000 price tag.

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I didn't know the numbers but I knew we were in for him until money started to be mentioned