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yonmon 06-10-2008 18:20
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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 638481)
Oh give me ****ing strength…..It’s a documentary of the realities of a belt and braces east lances football club, and regardless of individual sensibilities and our variance of what is and what is not acceptable behaviour this is the reality at the FES.

We only have a club because of Eric Whalley and the likes Messer’s Coleman, Bell and numerous others who put their lives into Accrington Stanley. Yes we the Fans are just as important in Stanley’s make up including us that don’t make it through the gates each week….

At the end of the day who amongst us don’t swear in our own environments, very few of us no doubt. Its real life telly, if it offends then there’s always a
t only be saying it; they’ll be doing it as well.

It takes brass bollocks to open the doors in the way they have and I would always prefer the Eric I saw last week to a total false one. And when coalley starts it’ll be like an x rated Brookside. Bring it on Lads, lets suck it and see…..
That's what I tried to say Doug !, and isn't it strange that it took a Granada Documentary to uncover the sensitivities of some of our contemporaries on the Forum?. I wouldn't have guessed that the odd flight of
invective would have stirred up such controversary in the breasts of dyed-in-the wool Stanleyites!.
In passing, and to underline my previous comments regarding the widespread use of Anglo-Saxonisms with sexual connotations across the entire Soccer scene, I noted, whilst watching a report of a Match on Skysports,a newly-arrived player from a lesser country in Darkest Africa using two of the more extreme examples of 'foul' language in response to a refereeing decision which went against him ( and not in Bantu either!), and it didn't take any well-trained lipreading skills to make out what he was saying !. The thought crossed my mind that seeing that the Referee chose to let the incident go without batting an eyelid, that this behaviour is so commonplace now in our game as to be almost acceptable !, and if you don't use this 'language of Football' then perhaps you are the odd one out!. Our Cairman, Manager and Players are part of this 'Culture'.The Clayton End Fans (berated elsewhere!) are part of this culture, and an important part as far as ensuring the ongoing survival of the Club, and all are under pressure to maintain the stereotype.
This being so, what we see, and hear at the FES on a Saturday afternoon can be quite easily understood.

Alfred.E. says 'Roll on Episode Two!'

'ON STANLEY!....ON !.

garinda 06-10-2008 18:29
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Originally Posted by Jesus_was_A_red_ (Post 638528)
Agree with someone earlier in this thread that likenend it to early phoenix nights. Quality. Exactly what I expected.
Perhaps Chorley FM could be a new sponsor.

'Accrington Stanley, brought to you by Chorley FM, coming in your ears.'

You wouldn't be able to hear any swearing then.:D

Revived Red 06-10-2008 20:28
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As so often happens, people are replying to what they think others have said without actually reading and/or thinking about what they have said. Those who complained about the bad language are not offended by it - if they were, they would not go to the FES. The whole point was about whether the use of such language could deter others from attending.

Yes, it was a fly-on-the-wall documentary. But Accrington Stanley is a business and, presumably like all businesses, it wants to improve (it certainly NEEDS to improve) and it should be presenting a favourable image to the public. As Wynonie said, Eric could/should have minimised the bad language in the presence of the cameras. This series could have given us a wonderful opportunity to rise above and beyond the "joke" club, and maybe attract some further investment and/or sponsorship. I doubt if it will do so.

Jimbo T Hornblower 06-10-2008 20:41
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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 638633)
and all are under pressure to maintain the stereotype.
I wish you would speak proper english sometimes yonmon instead of talking in riddles ;). What do you mean by being under pressure to maintain a stereotype?? Its all about passion - plain and simple. When passion is involved and lets not beat about the bush here, there is a lot involved on a matchday from all sides, some people will swear and swear a lot - thats human nature. Agreed though, passion does inevitably lead to pressure. Unfortunately Eric has the evil combination of passion AND pressure as he also owns the whole shabang and is running it on an absolute shoestring so I can fully understand when he is at the workplace, he swears like a trooper - I dont think he or any of us are trying to 'maintain a stereotype'.

As you said about the player cursing the ref, I saw Mark Hughes shout the b word at the touchline on Match of the Day 2 last night. I have said it earlier and was pointed out by K-P very early on in this thread - this is a behind the scenes documentary not an advert and it was never intended to be and I cant see why this has created such a big fuss. Well said Doug btw.

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

Willie Miller 06-10-2008 20:59
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Originally Posted by Jimbo T Hornblower (Post 638695)
I wish you would speak proper english sometimes yonmon instead of talking in riddles ;). What do you mean by being under pressure to maintain a stereotype?? Its all about passion - plain and simple. When passion is involved and lets not beat about the bush here, there is a lot involved on a matchday from all sides, some people will swear and swear a lot - thats human nature. Agreed though, passion does inevitably lead to pressure. Unfortunately Eric has the evil combination of passion AND pressure as he also owns the whole shabang and is running it on an absolute shoestring so I can fully understand when he is at the workplace, he swears like a trooper - I dont think he or any of us are trying to 'maintain a stereotype'.

As you said about the player cursing the ref, I saw Mark Hughes shout the b word at the touchline on Match of the Day 2 last night. I have said it earlier and was pointed out by K-P very early on in this thread - this is a behind the scenes documentary not an advert and it was never intended to be and I cant see why this has created such a big fuss. Well said Doug btw.

Jimbo T :horn8:blower
:mosher:

Revived Red 06-10-2008 21:04
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Originally Posted by Jimbo T Hornblower (Post 638695)
this is a behind the scenes documentary not an advert and it was never intended to be
Jimbo T :horn8:blower
I agree - but it IS an advert whether we like it or not, and whether it was intended to be or not. This is probably all that the non-committed will ever see of the business that is Accrington Stanley Football Club. I think there is a "big fuss" because our opinions differ about whether what has been seen will be good for the business that is Accrington Stanley Football Club.

Willie Miller 06-10-2008 21:24
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Why would football fans worry about "business"....... Surely that s Eric & the boards business or are even we, as grass roots fans, getting embroiled in more board room talk than football talk...... FC NOT PLC!!!!!!

Revived Red 06-10-2008 21:33
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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 638729)
Why would football fans worry about "business".
How often do we read about "lack of resources", "shoestring budget" etc in these posts? Better business = better resources = ability to attract better players = better football.

yonmon 06-10-2008 22:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo T Hornblower (Post 638695)
I wish you would speak proper english sometimes yonmon instead of talking in riddles ;). What do you mean by being under pressure to maintain a stereotype??

Jimbo T :horn8:blower
I do get a bit carried away at times JT !...as you will have noticed!...and I do take your point about our support for the Reds being a thing of passion !, which is an element within us all that will keep us going to the FES whatever happens!
As to'conforming to the stereotype'....well perhaps you'll concede that some do and others don't !....or am I talking in riddles again??....Oh eck !, I'll shut up !

Respect and Regards across the miles!.

JEFF 07-10-2008 09:40
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Eric was probably filmed for hours and hours which was edited down to minutes. If all the swearing and cursing had been edited out it would probably have been a boring documentary. Don't you think that Granada showed the swearing and cursing on purpose to make it more entertaining. If the programme hadn't showed Eric swearing and cursing nobody would be discussing the programme now and probably saying that it was a waste of time. I don't think it will put anybody off going to FES to watch Stanley, it's just that the Accrington public can't be bothered to go.

Definition of documentary - emphasizing or expressing things as perceived without distortion of personal feelings or insertion of fictional matter

A non-fiction motion picture film having a theme or viewpoint but drawing its material from actual events and using editing and sound to enhance the theme

Jimbo T Hornblower 07-10-2008 10:07
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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 638906)
Definition of documentary - emphasizing or expressing things as perceived without distortion of personal feelings or insertion of fictional matter

A non-fiction motion picture film having a theme or viewpoint but drawing its material from actual events and using editing and sound to enhance the theme
Ta daaaaa!

Revived Red, this might be all that the 'committed' see about the business of Accrington Stanley Football club also. I would consider myself committed all be it at a distance, but for those lucky souls that get to go week in week out, still wouldnt get to see what was shown in that episode unless its a prize for a competition etc. Even then you wouldnt be allowed into lets say the prematch meeting with John and Eric - but the cameras were....

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

Revived Red 07-10-2008 13:19
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Originally Posted by Jimbo T Hornblower (Post 638913)
Ta daaaaa!

Revived Red, this might be all that the 'committed' see about the business of Accrington Stanley Football club also.
Jimbo T :horn8:blower
Sorry, Jimbo. Not sure I agree with that. The "committed" probably see the website, the messageboard, the match programme, and maybe a few games too.

Anyway, it's been good to read the varied opinions. That's what this messageboard is all about.

yonmon 07-10-2008 14:39
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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 638967)
Sorry, Jimbo. Not sure I agree with that. The "committed" probably see the website, the messageboard, the match programme, and maybe a few games too.

Anyway, it's been good to read the varied opinions. That's what this messageboard is all about.
Does this signal some sort of capitulation Red.?...just when it's all getting rather interesting !.There will be more episodes requiring your considered opinion coming along soon ...stay with !.us

'ON STANLEY!....ON!'

Wynonie Harris 07-10-2008 15:18
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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 638986)
Does this signal some sort of capitulation Red.?...just when it's all getting rather interesting !.There will be more episodes requiring your considered opinion coming along soon ...stay with !.us

'ON STANLEY!....ON!'
I trust you will be giving us your thoughts on episode 2 in The Oaklea on Saturday, YM? I also await Alfred E's comments with interest! :cool:

Bagpuss 07-10-2008 15:38
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Putting the swearing aside a bloody dingle at work is taking great pleasure in singing the old song about "loooking in dustbins for something to eat", nice one Eric.

Revived Red 07-10-2008 16:20
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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 638986)
Does this signal some sort of capitulation Red.?...just when it's all getting rather interesting !.There will be more episodes requiring your considered opinion coming along soon ...stay with !.us
Nope; certainly no capitulation! Merely a temporary pause. I was starting to feel that the exchange of thoughts was reaching stalemate.

OLDHAMADE 09-10-2008 19:30
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Got a couple of beers chilling in anticipation of a great nights entertainment when tonights espisode is aired, the 'Swearbox' is out at the ready :D

OLDHAMADE 09-10-2008 20:08
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DAMN!
Forgot the 2 Hollands to go with em :surprise:
Us 'True' Lancashire folk love these timeless delicacies :D

K-P 09-10-2008 22:15
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Calling jimmy bell a girl... only eric could get away with that.... cracking program tonight. starting to warm to it...

cashman 09-10-2008 22:24
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enjoyed it tonight, coleys passion fer stanley really shone through i thought.:) will miss the next 2, so if i grovel n kiss yer feet, wynonie will ya tape em fer me, oh handsome one.:D;)

harwood red 09-10-2008 22:25
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If ya struggle cashy I am taping the whole series

K.S.H 09-10-2008 22:28
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anyone tape it tonight? forgot to set the recorder
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cashman 09-10-2008 22:29
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 639786)
If ya struggle cashy I am taping the whole series
oh beautiful princess thank you...............can i grovel or what?:D

harwood red 09-10-2008 22:32
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 639791)
oh beautiful princess thank you...............can i grovel or what?:D
OMG you must be desperate to watch it :D

cashman 09-10-2008 22:37
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 639794)
OMG you must be desperate to watch it :D
no i am just gobsmacked n grateful that n angel has offered assistance to a weary old man.:D

mab 09-10-2008 22:42
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:) Really enjoyed tonights program,coleys passon and jimmy's a sight to behold.:) just glad im not a stanley player :D

yonmon 09-10-2008 22:57
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Originally Posted by mab (Post 639802)
:) Really enjoyed tonights program,coleys passon and jimmy's a sight to behold.:) just glad im not a stanley player :D
But why Mab have Granada's Cameramen, and Editors,
contrived to make the FES look as tatty and run-down as is possible in practically every shot and Camera angle used
I also wondered if I was the only one to yell at my TV....' I HATE INCE AND MATTHIAS '.
It really did bring back the anger which that graphic instance of poor sportsmanship par excellence engendered at the time!.....I'm still shaking after several V&T's!...

mab 09-10-2008 23:25
:) A Lick Of Paint And It'l Be As Good As New Yonmon :d

Wynonie Harris 10-10-2008 08:04
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 639785)
enjoyed it tonight, coleys passion fer stanley really shone through i thought.:) will miss the next 2, so if i grovel n kiss yer feet, wynonie will ya tape em fer me, oh handsome one.:D;)
No need for that, Mr C. will hopefully sort it out for you...so now you have two offers! Thought last night's episode was an improvement on the first. Eric was spot-on with his comments about Franchise! Felt a bit sorry for Hazel, though...thought she deserved better than that.

lancsdave 10-10-2008 08:43
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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 639790)
anyone tape it tonight? forgot to set the recorder
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We are posh in our house, DVD recording :D.

Mind you with a guest appearance on last nights programme somebody might be putting it on freeze frame :rolleyes:

Willie Miller 10-10-2008 09:19
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 639866)
Mind you with a guest appearance on last nights programme somebody might be putting it on freeze frame :rolleyes:
You live with Hazel?:cool:

lancsdave 10-10-2008 09:30
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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 639870)
You live with Hazel?:cool:

I've seen some insults in my time on here but that one is top 10 :D

Stanleymad 10-10-2008 09:32
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:o:o:o no blinked i missed LOL!!

Tho same cant be said for Willie Miller face of the flags now every week LOL!!! Are u still managing to go to supermarket without hassle or are u donning a disguise hehehe:D

Willie Miller 10-10-2008 09:48
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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 639876)
:o:o:o no blinked i missed LOL!!

Tho same cant be said for Willie Miller face of the flags now every week LOL!!! Are u still managing to go to supermarket without hassle or are u donning a disguise hehehe:D
Yeah I got this great bigg grey wig........ nobody recognises me with it on

Doug 10-10-2008 09:58
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 639874)
I've seen some insults in my time on here but that one is top 10 :D
You knocking Stanley’s First Lady, Dingle? ;):)

How is the dodgy bird anyway………:D

Doug 10-10-2008 09:59
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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 639882)
Yeah I got this great bigg grey wig........ nobody recognises me with it on

Hiya Brother.......I like the big white one best, I'll have one like that when I get old......:D

MCR ADIM 27-10-2008 19:56
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Accrington Stanley - Exactly!
Monday, October 27
ITV1 Granada
Accrington Stanley - Exactly! 10.40pm - 11.10pm The assistant manager launches an appeal after being sent off and the chairman is delighted when the result of an away game means he won't have to pay the team a clean-sheet bonus.

maccawozzagod 27-10-2008 22:10
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OMG @ Cav!

mab 27-10-2008 22:11
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 645122)
OMG @ Cav!
:( my stag doo wasn't like that :(

Stanleymad 27-10-2008 22:16
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Actually glad dvd recorder gave up the ghost before the prog started which made a bad start but think it senced an arsey episode!

All great for cav but think it really wasn't neccessary & beginning to see all the hype go down the grams top bit like the footy of last season:rolleyes:

MCR ADIM 27-10-2008 22:24
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thought it was very funny ian craney what a legend! bet cav cant wait to get him back! thought the moral singing was funny aswell! great interviews with bobby, cav and ian and the fines good idea!

maccawozzagod 27-10-2008 23:19
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wonder if Eric thinks he comes across like an alkie? and I wonder if the dog got its arse kicked!

garinda 27-10-2008 23:20
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 645135)
wonder if Eric thinks he comes across like an alkie? and I wonder if the dog got its arse kicked!
The dog should get a follow up series, like Paddy and Max did.:D

fc:stanley 27-10-2008 23:55
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I thought the funny bits tonight were the money the players had to give the club because of not wearing the correct strip etc and them taking the mick. + The karaoke when they made smith go up and sing because everyone has to do it on this bus haha!

K.S.H 28-10-2008 05:19
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Nickelson 28-10-2008 15:59
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Quality Episode, My fav. quote - '' Half the team are scouse'' more than half my son '

Doug 28-10-2008 18:32
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I enjoyed it...............Can't wait until I can have a pint with Eric, he just cracks me up......Accy Class.

iamreverend 01-11-2008 04:45
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Hello. I watched the first episode of this and thought it was great. I missed the next few but expected to watch them on itv.co.uk but you can't view them. Would it be possible for a kind member of the community to upload them? Thankyou

mab 01-11-2008 07:39
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Why not wait and see tham all on ASFCTV when the Granada series ends.

petegibbons 01-11-2008 08:23
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I am on this in a few weeks, when we get round to July. I had to sign a sheet to give permission for the footage they filmed to be shown.

Bagpuss 01-11-2008 08:43
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Originally Posted by petegibbons (Post 646303)
I am on this in a few weeks, when we get round to July. I had to sign a sheet to give permission for the footage they filmed to be shown.
That's going to add a few million more viewers then:rolleyes::)

Oggy 01-11-2008 15:01
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Saw another remarkable documentary yesterday, Terence Davies' Of Time and the City. The city in question being Liverpool from the point of view of the director's upbringing in the fifties, to how he sees Liverpool now.

He speaks the names Accrington Stanley, Sheffield Wednesday, Hamilton Academicals and Queen of the South in such melifluous tones against archive footage, to invoke memories of my dad checking his pools as the results came in over the bakelite radio. The whole film is spellbinding.

It's amazing to think how diverse documentaries can be.

Haggis316 01-11-2008 21:09
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This is Liverpool Echo's trailer for the programme:

"Nov 1 2008

by Greg O'Keeffe, Liverpool Echo

Monday

Accrington Stanley ... Exactly (ITV1, 10.40pm)

MORE action from behind the scenes with the league two footy side, managed by likeable scouser John Coleman. So far, this series has been insightful and funny – just what you’d expect from director Sol Papadopoulos who co-produced Cannes hit film Of Time and the City.!"

Oggy 02-11-2008 00:42
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Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 646593)
So far, this series has been insightful and funny – just what you’d expect from director Sol Papadopoulos who co-produced Cannes hit film Of Time and the City.!"
Small world indeed, possibly why Terence said "goodnight" rather early, as I thought, he obviously knew of the documentary which was to come.

Wonder how well AS Exactly would have gone down at Cannes. :)

garinda 02-11-2008 08:23
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Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 646593)
This is Liverpool Echo's trailer for the programme:

"Nov 1 2008

by Greg O'Keeffe, Liverpool Echo

Monday

Accrington Stanley ... Exactly (ITV1, 10.40pm)

MORE action from behind the scenes with the league two footy side, managed by likeable scouser John Coleman. So far, this series has been insightful and funny – just what you’d expect from director Sol Papadopoulos who co-produced Cannes hit film Of Time and the City.!"
Lol, I used to know the director when I was at art school in Liverpool.

No wonder the series is as funny as it is.:D

Redraine 02-11-2008 08:47
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Originally Posted by Oggy (Post 646446)
Saw another remarkable documentary yesterday, Terence Davies' Of Time and the City. The city in question being Liverpool from the point of view of the director's upbringing in the fifties, to how he sees Liverpool now.

He speaks the names Accrington Stanley, Sheffield Wednesday, Hamilton Academicals and Queen of the South in such melifluous tones against archive footage, to invoke memories of my dad checking his pools as the results came in over the bakelite radio. The whole film is spellbinding.

It's amazing to think how diverse documentaries can be.
What channel was it Oggy, please?

Oggy 02-11-2008 11:38
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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 646649)
What channel was it Oggy, please?
Limited release film, I'm afraid, I had to pop over to Bradford to see it.

Does have a website though - Of Time and the City

mab 03-11-2008 20:33
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:)Don't forget its on after news at 10 and localnews tonight:)

SamF 03-11-2008 22:10
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Probably worst so far - was an episode of airport not stanley

mab 03-11-2008 22:16
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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 647156)
Probably worst so far - was an episode of airport not stanley
Totaly agree with you samf!!

Stanleymad 03-11-2008 22:26
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What car crash tv if ever i saw it, wtf was that to do with the club really or the fans that support it, terrible episode scraping the barrel with that wasnt they ?!? & i thought cavs stag do was a bit much! Really was a bad half hour & not really highlighting stanley in any positive light at all! Glad i didnt even bother with the dvd tonight, what happened to Garys flip as mentioned before the start of the prog???

Granada had plenty of footage to use of the support & of the behind the scenes stuff - even coleyoke by the very coley would of been better or should say more in keeping with the footy theme. But as people have already said its probably more a mockery than a documentory!

Bagpuss 03-11-2008 22:28
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Total rubbish tonight nowt to do with the Stanley we know.

yonmon 03-11-2008 22:31
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Originally Posted by mab (Post 647157)
Totaly agree with you samf!!
But it gave dear Stuart another opportunity to run through his repertoire of emotionally charged claptrap, and our Chairman an equal opportunity to prove that he can, on occasions work his way through day-to-day emergencies without resorting to the expletives which have been well-criticised in this thread!!
In the words of the Daily Telegraph's Television Critic,...'all in all, this was merely an inconsequential exercise in Televisual mediocrity'...and he should know !
But there's always next week !!

carpon 03-11-2008 23:10
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What was shown tonight had very little to do with Stanley.Other than follow the hen do of someone who works for the club and our esteemed chairman showing in brief glimpses a somewhat understanding side,albeit in the circumstances which encapsulated tonight's offering, I fail to see how tonight's offering shows how the club we love is run. Other than a secretary who despite organising the whole escapade to Magaluf somehow manages to overlook that her own passport has expired!!!

Don't get me wrong, the girl probably does stirling work on behalf of the club and she's probably doing a brilliant job, but this whole escapade is descending into farce, especially with Stuart Hall narrating over the whole thing like he's still conducting the " It's a knockoout " scenario.

Talk about putting accross a "Professional" football club in a positive light!! It may be funny to some,but I fear this documentary is putting the club across as a joke, as much a joke as we were when we were the butt of the milk advert:(

cashman 03-11-2008 23:18
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well it is approaching the pantomime season carpon.:D

garinda 03-11-2008 23:20
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Rubbish tonight.

How many programmes are there?

Hope the next is better.

Sidvish 03-11-2008 23:28
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Is anyone able to help or have any Info? .......................Where can we watch the episodes again?

I've missed a few of them with work commitments. I've noticed a few members have recorded the show, is anyone prepared to post them online? (youtube perhaps)?

I'm desperate to see some of them (even though they've been portrayed in true 'Peter Kay Phoenix Nights' Style). It shows REAL people in a REAL environment. Fair play to all who partook.

Any suggestions for catching up on the shows then?
Much appreciated.

xxx

carpon 03-11-2008 23:28
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 647180)
well it is approaching the pantomime season carpon.:D
Never a true word spoken !!! :D Karma is due !!

Tin Monkey 04-11-2008 05:46
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I find it reassuring that people thought the same as me. I was afraid that I'd come on here to find people calling it great TV, but actually it was disgraceful clap-trap that did nothing for anyone involved.

K.S.H 04-11-2008 09:07
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The only good thing about last night is that it shown eric's generous side.
did they show the wrong episode? supposed to be about grounds man walking out last night
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flashy 04-11-2008 09:29
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i caught the last few minutes of it last night, what was the hen night all about?

jaysay 04-11-2008 10:27
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 647229)
i caught the last few minutes of it last night, what was the hen night all about?
Think some one was getting married flashy:D Was a poor do last night unlike the others that I've seen, but last night was pants, as somebody has already said it was more like an episode of Airport, but with attitude:rolleyes:

Grimps 04-11-2008 10:46
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what aloads of ****:gooddog::gooddog:

Marty71 04-11-2008 11:40
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Does anyone have a link to these episodes so I can watch on the net..??? I have seen the first one on Stanley TV but thats it...

Tractorboy Red

:)

coxy 04-11-2008 16:05
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Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 647244)
what aloads of ****:gooddog::gooddog:
Exactly:hehetable

Willie Miller 04-11-2008 18:26
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Dunno about you but a hen party was better on the eye than Cav & his "big 'un"

Just disappointed there was NO mention of any football, thats not the girls faults.

Haggis316 05-11-2008 20:58
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I was intrigued by the suggestion about running across the pitch.

If executed on match days would this boost attendances?

cashman 10-11-2008 22:12
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fair do's thought this weeks was very good. IMHO.:)

MCR ADIM 10-11-2008 22:30
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this weeks was very good! i think thats the last episode aint it? the players drawing on each others face's, would of liked more interviews with the players though

K-P 10-11-2008 22:55
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I thought fans where an important part of a football club.. I dont think it showed enough of them.

harwood red 10-11-2008 23:11
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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 649378)
I thought fans where an important part of a football club.. I dont think it showed enough of them.
Probably for the first time ever :D I agree with you 100% K-P, I was receiving phone calls several times a week asking for updates on the supporters club... They filmed the media launch for our exhibition, the end of season presentation night... but never turned up to film the actual exhibition or interviewed on camera anyone involved!!

There was definately not enough match day stuff regarding fans either

K-P 10-11-2008 23:33
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 649386)
Probably for the first time ever :D I agree with you 100% K-P, I was receiving phone calls several times a week asking for updates on the supporters club... They filmed the media launch for our exhibition, the end of season presentation night... but never turned up to film the actual exhibition or interviewed on camera anyone involved!!

There was definately not enough match day stuff regarding fans either

I meant fans that go home and away ..

garinda 10-11-2008 23:40
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 637537)
Personally I would have liked to have seen more of Stanley's loyal fans.

Players, managers, and indeed owners, come and go, but the people that file through the turnstiles week in, week out, season after season, are the one constant presence at the club.
As I said way back in the thread.;)

Tonight's programme was better than last week's, thankfully, but like others have said it could have been so much better, and they would have struck TV gold if they had featured some of Stanley's characterful, die hard fans.

It's been interesting, and I hope it attracts new fans to go and watch Stanley, but the series could have been so much better.

(Sol, the Producer, wasn't much good at art either.);)

harwood red 10-11-2008 23:43
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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 649396)
I meant fans that go home and away ..
ok so i admit that I don't go to the far flung away matches like last year, like many others, commitments don't allow it, but the exhib showed the passion that we have for the club and it wouldn't have done any harm in showing some of it, which along the way would have shown more of the rich history surrounding the club!!! It's gotta beat a flippin hen do abroad!!!!

K-P 10-11-2008 23:44
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I fail to see how it would attract new fans.. just like I failed to see how a roof would.... people know stanley exist.. they know football kicks off at 3pm on a saturday afternoon.. i cant see that series making any difference to people who choose to do other things on a saturday... Sorry just being realistic :)

Hopefully it earned stanley some money and maybe business people might see it and invest... lots of good might come of it... But new fans... cant see it meself.

K-P 10-11-2008 23:50
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 649403)
ok so i admit that I don't go to the far flung away matches like last year, !!!
yes i do recall you went to a couple last year... i wouldnt call you an away fan any season though.. would you?

but whats that got to do with it. i didnt realise we where talking about you... I was simply stating that i would have liked to have seen some of the footage that they took at away games and home games of the fans...

there are other fans.. thousands of them... theres fans like jimbo and plumb who are massive stanley fans who cant get to games... theres fans in accy who not only cant get to away games.. they cant get to home games either.. there all fans and all good fans.. you shouldnt measure them by how many games they go to..

i just wanted to see some footage of home and away fans... thats all :) dont take it personally :)

garinda 10-11-2008 23:55
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 649403)
It's gotta beat a flippin hen do abroad!!!!
Quite agree.

That should have been a five minute filler, not a whole programme.

harwood red 10-11-2008 23:56
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thats what I put at the end of my first post too, that there definately wasn't enough of the match day stuff regarding fans... so I think we are actually agreeing :) in fact have asked many fans if they had been interviewed and none could say they had apart from loweiy and timmins...which is a real shame as they missed out on the real passionate side of the club....the die hard fans

K-P 10-11-2008 23:56
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 649412)
That should have been a five minute filler, not a whole programme.
it should have been a passing comment not a 5 minute filler :)

cashman 10-11-2008 23:57
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well john got his clock in tonight.:)

garinda 10-11-2008 23:58
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 649413)
apart from loweiy and timmins
Which they showed twice.

K-P 10-11-2008 23:59
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 649413)
thats what I put at the end of my first post too, that there definately wasn't enough of the match day stuff regarding fans... so I think we are actually agreeing :) in fact have asked many fans if they had been interviewed and none could say they had apart from loweiy and timmins...which is a real shame as they missed out on the real passionate side of the club....the die hard fans

to be honest an interview with a stanley fan would be hard to watch.... i can just imagine some of our charactors... arrgh .... no i just wanted to see footage of them supporting the team.... apart from the odd flash when a goal went in there wasnt anything


in fact sod it... i would have liked to have seem a whole program dedicated to the fans..

garinda 10-11-2008 23:59
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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 649414)
it should have been a passing comment
No, that was you tonight.;)

:D

harwood red 11-11-2008 00:02
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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 649418)

in fact sod it... i would have liked to have seem a whole program dedicated to the fans..
And that is exactly what they said they were going to do... they got some great footage too.. especially when the norweign lads were over

They could've almost given a full match experience (pref a winning match :D) pre and post match drinks... or followed a fan, their experience leading up to a game, the anticipation, the hopes, the fears... I think it would've been great

K-P 11-11-2008 00:04
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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 649421)
They could've almost given a full match experience (pref a winning match :D) pre and post match drinks... or followed a fan, their experience leading up to a game, the anticipation, the hopes, the fears... I think it would've been great
a nice trip to spain on expenses won the day :(

harwood red 11-11-2008 00:05
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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 649423)
a nice trip to spain on expenses won the day :(
you're not wrong there :rolleyes:

maccawozzagod 11-11-2008 08:40
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the problem with the programme was that it was supposedly about the running of a club and the hardships associated so I could understand that the fans aren't really part of that. But neither was Corinna's hen do or Cav's stag do.

they could have shown people like John Lowe who go up and help around the ground

they could have featured more of the Supporters Club and the efforts they make to try to help the club

they could have featured more on people like Jack Barratt and his infamous walk to Liverpool.


They were offered to film at the end of season presentation night, but though they were told proceedings started at 8pm we got a phone call at 8:15pm asking if we could delay the start until after 9pm when they could get there!

They attended meetings for the Exhibition and could have shown that a half dozen people were attempting to put on an event for the club and were spending many hours a week working towards that goal.

They could have shown more about the fans that do go to far flung games and the hardships associated with being one of only a few who have the time and money to do so.

On the face of things and taking the programme for what it was, a light hearted look at the smallest club in the football league, it was funny in parts and mostly entertaining. Even the wedding bits. But from the point of view that it could have done so much for us then it was crap.

I, like Harwood Red, took many phone calls and did several interviews as part of the 'research' into the programme. And I, like most of us, am disappointed that the fans perspective didn't come across.

K-P 11-11-2008 09:40
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They could have shown more about the fans that do go to far flung games and the hardships associated with being one of only a few who have the time and money to do so.
Some go to games when they havent got the time or money, some make sacrifices that you and me wont take (anymore?) to watch a game of football.. I am guessing you have stretched it a bit from time to time macca.. risked getting in trouble at work or with the missus, begged steal or borrowed as they say.... to get to an important match.. maybe more?. we all have our own levels but it certainly isnt a case of simply having the time money to spare ... IMHO :)

Grimps 11-11-2008 10:16
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snap kp was load of crap but if it turn one new fan its ok like you said it could have followed same fan traying to get to games in the times were money is hard to get.:do-one:

K-P 11-11-2008 10:18
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So it was shown local... what do we think. should it go national ? should the club show it over the internet for the world to see... waddaya fink ?

I say bury it :)


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