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Tin Monkey 18-10-2008 18:12

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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 642479)
[B][SIZE=4][FONT=Comic Sans MS] Not quite the time for unbridled triumphalism T-M, but maybe a few 'I told you so's' might be in order don't you think ?.

Maybe so Yonmon, but last week was a major blow. This week's game was a massive one and a test for Coleman's managerial skills. To pick the team up and get them believing again was a task few of us would envy, but JC has done the job this week and deserves credit for that.

Redraine 18-10-2008 18:25

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Well said, Monkey.
After two thirds of a bottle of Cab-sauv todays result is looking even better! Wouldn't it be great if the Ultras could get the whole of the Clayton End jumping on tuesday neet? Maybe they need to post two or three cheer-leaders out from behind the goals?

SamF 18-10-2008 18:40

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 642481)
Just because the management got it right against Luton (and indeed deserve praise for it, along with the players) doesn't turn around the fact that they got it seriously wrong against Bradford.

Exacttly, notice the football genious doing exactly what us so called moaners said he should have done the week before against bradford and leaving the team untouched ?

Kiwi John 18-10-2008 18:51

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Just *&(^%%*^$b brilliant :) . Great result Stanley. It'll certainly brighten up this miserable day down here...

coxy 18-10-2008 19:13

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Think im gonna have to miss matches reg now but its more nail-biting watchin soccer sat waitin for that full-time whistle well done boys

madkev 18-10-2008 20:16

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Went to the game today and the lads played excellent,the accy crowd around me were in full voice and made more noise than luton(the chant about luton being in the championshp and messing it up was a good one!) i couldn't settle in those last ten mins as had last week on back of my mind but they came through and we had a great game and kenny arthur made a great save near the final whistle!! Time for my bottle to celebrate.. Well done Stanley.

Haggis316 18-10-2008 20:41

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They weren't just in the Championship they were a side to be reckoned with and a place regularly left with nul points. I remember they were at the top of the Championship for much of our early days back in the League - then it went wrong.

I cast my mind back to a very depressing last day of the season visit to Hillsborough in April 1990 when Forest won 3-0 and Luton's first away win for 18 months inflicted Derby's first home defeat for 18 months to reprieve Luton for another season and send Sheffield Wednesday crashing out of the top flight on goal difference notwithstanding 43 points on the board.

lancsdave 18-10-2008 20:44

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Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 642448)
its a very different mood on here, than it were this time last week :p


I hope you aren't trying to suggest football fans are the most fickle people on earth :D

Wynonie Harris 18-10-2008 21:59

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2-1?...2-1?...is that all they can manage?...Sack Coleman, that's what I say!

yonmon 19-10-2008 06:49

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 642555)
2-1?...2-1?...is that all they can manage?...Sack Coleman, that's what I say!

'ACCRINGTON STANLEY - EXACTLY ! '.

( WYN !!..... 'I'm the cat that got The Cream !.'
and whilst I'm at it .....
'I can see clearly now !'...even through my
RED-Tinted glasses !!!..)


maccawozzagod 19-10-2008 20:09

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only the second game I have seen this season but I was impressed more than anything else with the movement of the front players.

Gornell, Miles and Ryan gave the Hatters defence more to think about than just trying to prevent Mullin from playing. This allowed Mullin to play! Jimmy Ryan is an absolute gem, he runs, chases, and harries after every loose ball. He can also play a bit when running forward. I dont know what his position is but I suspect it is not winger - but he does a cracking job out there. If he ever gets chance to play through the middle then it won't be long before we are saying "Ian who?" Jimmy will be our next high priced export through the ever revolving transfer door.

Luton posed a few problems when they actually got to the penalty box but they never seemed to be an actual threat in the game other than a brief spell when they scored. I f the second goal had not been disallowed then I fear we may have disintegreted again, but the linesmans decision seemed to give us a new lease of life. We played good, fast flowing, controlled football. We weren't afraid to go backwards to retain possession and tried to find some penetrating passes. Don't get me wrong - we aint Brazil, but this Stanley is a joy to watch. Gornell will go on to better things, as will Jimmy Ryan. Griffiths won't break into the Blackburn team but will probably make a decent Championship player. With a bit of luck we can keep hold of these lads and try to get something out of the season. The squad need to realise that last week was disappointing but a one-off. They outplayed a good Bradford team for long spells and did a number on Luton in a difficult stadium.

Quick mention to Kenny and Phil Edwards for the frenetic defending at the end of the game. Phil never deserved to make that tackle but did. Well done.

Also to the Luton fans - you were great for 15 minutes what happened? The Ultras didn't outdo the noise that they made but again were constant and noisy throughout. Well done.

Oh yeah and the 'LOL' moments? For some reason Luton groundstaff seem to need to put the sprinklers on at half time. Except there was a kids match going on at the time!

mab 19-10-2008 20:14

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:) Great post macca :)

mab 19-10-2008 21:50

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Manager Mick Harford had no complaints following the defeat against Accrington after admitting his Luton team hadn't been at the races.
http://images.teamtalk.com/08/05/330...008_847240.jpg Harford: Demands better












Terry Gornell hit the winner in the 55th minute of Saturday's League Two clash at Kenilworth Road after Paul Mullin's opener had been cancelled out by Asa Hall's acrobatic effort before half-time.
Harford said: "It was hugely disappointing. We didn't start particularly well and they deserved to go 1-0 up.
"We looked sloppy and sluggish and didn't the knock the ball around all afternoon.
"We didn't get the ball in behind them or turn them, we were edgy and looked nervous in possession.
"It's a bit of a low for us because we should be beating teams like this when they come down here but we don't seem to be able to do that."

mab 19-10-2008 22:10

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HAPLESS HATTERS LOSE AT HOME AGAIN
http://www.lutonfc.com/pictures/misc...lworthroad.JPG
Things went from bad to worse for hapless Luton Town as they capitulated to a 1-2 home defeat against minnows Accrington Stanley i...


Jimbo T Hornblower 19-10-2008 22:24

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Im just glad we got a win at last - loved Gornell's finish :) Made sure didnt he :D BRING ON THE TRUMPETS!

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

JEFF 20-10-2008 08:56

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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 642447)
note no subs made by coley this week

No, but he had Procky ready to come on with one minute of stoppage time left but Luton got a free kick and Coley doesn't make substitutions at set pieces and then the final whistle went before he could get him on. Thank goodness.

JEFF 20-10-2008 09:03

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 642485)
Maybe so Yonmon, but last week was a major blow. This week's game was a massive one and a test for Coleman's managerial skills. To pick the team up and get them believing again was a task few of us would envy, but JC has done the job this week and deserves credit for that.

I think a lot of the difference on Saturday was due to enforced changes with Cav being suspended. Edwards is better at defending than Cav and is usually in the right place instead of being posted missing, but what will happen on Tuesday? Will Coley keep the same winning team or will he tinker and bring Cav back. I suspect I know the answer to that. Also Rocky will be available again.

shakermaker 20-10-2008 13:31

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It isn't fair to label Cav as a liability. By all accounts he had a bad game against Bradford, but that is definitely not the story of his season so far. He's had some very good form. It was Edwards' fault alone for one of Bradford's goals but no one is linching him? Edwards is a better centre half than Cav but certainly not a better full back.

JEFF 20-10-2008 16:12

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 642943)
It isn't fair to label Cav as a liability. By all accounts he had a bad game against Bradford, but that is definitely not the story of his season so far. He's had some very good form. It was Edwards' fault alone for one of Bradford's goals but no one is linching him? Edwards is a better centre half than Cav but certainly not a better full back.

Who labelled Cav as a liability? I didn't. But as you mention it Cav has had more bad games than good games in the last few seasons. He races up field and when he loses the ball he trots back. Edwards has to leave his post at centre half and cover for Cav at full back until he trots back. Which Bradford goal was Edwards fault alone?

Outback Ozzy 20-10-2008 16:23

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 642943)
It isn't fair to label Cav as a liability. By all accounts he had a bad game against Bradford, but that is definitely not the story of his season so far. He's had some very good form. It was Edwards' fault alone for one of Bradford's goals but no one is linching him? Edwards is a better centre half than Cav but certainly not a better full back.

Don't know which games you been watching shaker, but Cav HAS been a liability for the last few games he has played in especially this season. Remember the weak back pass that allowed an attacking player to come in and steal the ball to score! I do!! He has a habit of wandering up to attack and forgetting to track back to help the defenders. Even Paul Mullin tracks back more than Cav. Edwards is a better player than Cav full stop!!!! It says it all when you consider Cav has played 5 games this season and been booked 5 times, yet how many has Phil Edwards played and how many times has he been booked?

On a personal note, I hope John Coleman sticks with a winning team for tomorrow and keeps Cav and Rocky off the field altogether. Make them win their places back on merit - not give them their places in a successful team.

shakermaker 20-10-2008 23:12

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 643010)
Who labelled Cav as a liability? I didn't. But as you mention it Cav has had more bad games than good games in the last few seasons. He races up field and when he loses the ball he trots back. Edwards has to leave his post at centre half and cover for Cav at full back until he trots back. Which Bradford goal was Edwards fault alone?

With the way you harp on about how awful Cavanagh is, paraphrasing your posts into "labelling him as a liability" is fair. However the stick he's being given is not. I've seen good, solid performances from Cav this season. He's not a brilliant defender nor will I make him out to be, but to embellish his mistakes and make him out to be a liability is absurd.
Phil Edwards' poor defending allowed for Barnet's goal, not Bradford's - my mistake.

JEFF 21-10-2008 09:09

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 643135)
Phil Edwards' poor defending allowed for Barnet's goal, not Bradford's - my mistake.

Please explain which goal was Phil Edwards' fault.
As I remember it Barnet's first goal came in the first minute when Adomah went past King and crossed the ball for O'Flynn to head into the net. Barnet's second goal came from a corner when Yakubu headed the ball out of Kenny Arthur's hands into the net (this at a time when Stanley were short of a defender after Rocky had been sent off)

shakermaker 21-10-2008 14:06

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 643164)
Please explain which goal was Phil Edwards' fault.
As I remember it Barnet's first goal came in the first minute when Adomah went past King and crossed the ball for O'Flynn to head into the net. Barnet's second goal came from a corner when Yakubu headed the ball out of Kenny Arthur's hands into the net (this at a time when Stanley were short of a defender after Rocky had been sent off)

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...itv-43070.html

Phil was shrugged off far too easily by the Barnet winger for the first goal.

JEFF 21-10-2008 15:30

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Sorry Shaker, I didn't realise that you had been watching it on a little screen, I thought you had been to the game and seen it in real time. After Adomah went past Edwards he then went past King, he then put the ball into the area and O'Flynn scored, a lot went on after he went past Edwards. I, for one, wouldn't blame Edwards for that goal. Cav has been captain for six or seven seasons and I am yet to see him open his mouth and organise the team. Keep your eye on him next time he plays (hopefully not tonight) and you tell me if he is doing a Captain's job. Cav is supposed to be playing at right back yet he takes corners on the left wing, he goes gallivanting up field and never gets back to defend. Face it, Cav is never where he should be and Edwards has had to cover up for him too many times. Cav is past his best

shakermaker 21-10-2008 21:59

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 643258)
Sorry Shaker, I didn't realise that you had been watching it on a little screen, I thought you had been to the game and seen it in real time. After Adomah went past Edwards he then went past King, he then put the ball into the area and O'Flynn scored, a lot went on after he went past Edwards. I, for one, wouldn't blame Edwards for that goal.

For a start I had zero chance to get to Underhill as I am (a) skint and (b) 527 miles away from the said ground. So 'viewing it on a little screen' is the best way possible. Any road, it obviously worked out better than your first hand account as you are clearly mistaken. The video shows how the winger shrugs off Edwards and crosses the ball. There wasn't "a lot going on after he took on Edwards", nor was King taken on at all.

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 643258)
Cav has been captain for six or seven seasons and I am yet to see him open his mouth and organise the team. Keep your eye on him next time he plays (hopefully not tonight) and you tell me if he is doing a Captain's job. Cav is supposed to be playing at right back yet he takes corners on the left wing, he goes gallivanting up field and never gets back to defend. Face it, Cav is never where he should be and Edwards has had to cover up for him too many times. Cav is past his best

The faults you mention are completely to do with tactics implemented by the manager! Orders regarding staying forward or tracking back, corner taking duties? Cavanagh is a good player and far from past his best. I fear we may have to agree to disagree.

Willie Miller 21-10-2008 22:06

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Cav is our most successful club captain ever!

JEFF 22-10-2008 10:37

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 643441)
Cav is our most successful club captain ever!

The season we won the Conference Cav only played 19 league games Mully was captain for the other 27 games. So far in Football League Cav has played 55 league games, Mully has been the captain for the other 49 games.

JEFF 22-10-2008 10:45

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 643439)
For a start I had zero chance to get to Underhill as I am (a) skint and (b) 527 miles away from the said ground. So 'viewing it on a little screen' is the best way possible. Any road, it obviously worked out better than your first hand account as you are clearly mistaken. The video shows how the winger shrugs off Edwards and crosses the ball. There wasn't "a lot going on after he took on Edwards", nor was King taken on at all.

After the winger "shrugged off" Edwards he ran the ball up the by-line and went past King before crossing.

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 643439)
The faults you mention are completely to do with tactics implemented by the manager! Orders regarding staying forward or tracking back, corner taking duties? Cavanagh is a good player and far from past his best. I fear we may have to agree to disagree.

Is it Coley's tactics that Cav strolls back to defence after rampaging forward? I have seen nearly every game that Cav and Edwards have played for Stanley and in my opinion Edwards is the better defender. Anyway as you said let's agree to disagree and channel our energies into supporting Stanley and all the players.

Willie Miller 22-10-2008 11:36

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 643569)
Anyway as you said let's agree to disagree and channel our energies into supporting Stanley and all the players.

You were nearly cheerful there Jeff;)

JEFF 22-10-2008 12:23

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 643581)
You were nearly cheerful there Jeff;)

Always cheerful Jason, well up to kick off time anyway, and sometimes I am cheerful after the final whistle. If Stanley win on Saturday it will be three in a row and I will be that cheerful that I will probably crack my face.


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