What happened
 

To ASFC TV?

While we're at it what happened to Ricky and 2BR :confused: not that I miss him :D

Re: What happened
 

Ricky only came back from 3 weeks in the Carribean the other day.

Re: What happened
 

Did they not want to keep him :rolleyes:

Re: What happened
 

The ASFC TV scheme was one in a long line of similar styled projects. You didn't honestly expect an uninterrupted flow did you? :D

Re: What happened
 

hmm not really but i didn't expect to see banger racing on there :)'
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: What happened
 

Having somehting that doesnt work as your headliner on the official site isnt good.. esp when it hasnt worked for so long.. then again theres a lot not right.. look at the player profiles and the club history.. all reported months ago...

for many the website is first contact, window to the world and the only link fan to club for ex pats... its very important so should be looked after not dragged down or used just to squeeze every last penny out of fans...

dare I say it? news would be nice :)

Re: What happened
 

Have to agree K-P the official Web Site should be up-to-date every week really for that year reason you said, expats wanting to keep in touch with Stanley's fortunes, from the inside and not slanted media stories

Re: What happened
 

Deja vu anyone? ;)

Re: What happened
 

There are some good points here Tony..It would be nice to know who is our webmaster ?? Who is responsible for the site ?? so we can e mail direct any updates from a fans point of view... Stanley TV is Dave's project and talking to him its ongoing but the seating is at the top of the priorty list at the moment.

Happy New year to one and all

Re: What happened
 

so? the seating has absoloutly nothing to do with the website falling apart.. either take the two minutes to remove the link to the tv or take a different two minutes to update the page with info about its status... I am not even exagerating with the two minutes...

seriously.. i know theres more important things going on like the transfer window.. team winning, seats blah blah .. but that doesnt mean other things have to suffer for no good reason..

IMHO :)

Re: What happened
 

Don't want to go into too much deatails for obvious reason's

ASFCTV is "Touchline TV" project, so only he can supply a detailed answer. However the brief details that I know are that some further legal paperwork is required to show the footage and this is "in progress"

With regards to updating the website: Yes we all agree it could be better however with the smallest staff in the Football League ( and I guess some Conference Clubs will have a bigger staff) who much go you expect our hardworking team to do???

I know at the a solution; instead of the Club signing Keiran Charnock or Royston Griffiths or Terry Gornall (something we all hope will happen) I'll suggest wl advertise and a appoint a Head of Media. He can update the website hourly, be on Radio Lancs and 2BR every sports bulletin. Perhaps he could also do away commentatries on the Web site and change the website to a PTV based one. Is this what we want????? IMHO NO!!!!!!!!

ASFC solid foundation is based on a small staff base working damn hard, and numerous volunteers who do so many tasks. I could go on all day with how other clubs waste money in so many areas.

Since the retirement and sad loss of Phil Terry:(, our media derpartment has lost a touch of professionalism. Pendle Red has stepped into the breach to become the "unpaid" programme editor. Perhaps there are others out there who will join the army of unpaid staff at the FES and help improve our image??

Re: What happened
 

:)Talking about seats is there a start date for the insterlation:)

Re: What happened
 

Two minutes..thats all it takes

OK so answer this.. they have time to fill the front page with adverts and stories asking for money but havent got time to put news items on.. instead we have to read it in the papers..

How does that fit in with your answer ?

Re: What happened
 

Unpaid.. you sure you want to say that?

Re: What happened
 

Do they have a dedicated webmaster or is it a case of "i have nowt better to do so I will go and fiddle with the website?" It is a scandel that they cant have it updated week on week properly. Mind you after a discussion I was in on when down there seems to be an air headed attitude to a lot of work that needs doing. The orginisation is on the scale of the true blonde bimbo kind and is harming the club. Those of us who are expat fans on here are lucky as the forum keeps us up to speed to a certain extent as to what is happening. now is it just me or is the club relying on people here passing on info to save the hassle of putting it on the official web pages?????

Re: What happened
 

Looks like i was bashing the keys when some of the replys came in to K-P's comments/observations. :o

Re: What happened
 

hahaha one fingered typing with a few sips of your brew inbetween :)

Re: What happened
 

Yep sadly. :( A distinct lack of action when required resulting in the speed of a constipated rocking horse. :eek:

Re: What happened
 

Just found this on T'Fishy..
People responsible for the success of www.accringtonstanley.co.uk:
Website hosting and email services sponsored and provided by www.kipax.co.uk
Webmaster: Lee Carter
Editor: Adam Cottier
Database research and upkeep by Julie Worden (Nik: AccyRed)
Club news provided and inputted by Rob Heys
Weekly Draw numbers inputted by Vikki Gilmartin

Stanley Store run by Lee carter
Player weekly stats updated by Phil Terry
Match Posters by Ken Hacking (Nik: K.S.H.)
League Tables by Ken Hacking (Nik: K.S.H.)
Main Banner Provided By Sam Farrington
If Tony is hosting and providing this service to th club the least they and all connected should help keep it updated

Re: What happened
 

Ironic that this page should be so out of date

I did privide it all free for the first few seasons.... then half paid it and as of this season the club pay for it as I have gone self employed and cant afford... I do supply the hosting services though.. the hosting is non profit.. I am simply the go between.. it isnt part of my business if you follow :)


BTW if you look on CLUB DETAILS it gives a different story as to who does what

Re: What happened
 

Hang on a mo it takes a team effort and the club as to have the will to find a way of helping keep it up to date. If as stated it is volenteers that are keeping it going then maybe on a Sunday afternoon all those involved get together and update the site. Hell even the interactive tour is all wrong. Until or if a full time bod takes on the task we might have to put up or shut up about the site. I will be the first to admit if I get it wrong so if I offended any of the volenteers then I am sorry.

Re: What happened
 

The voulanteers who do help have there parts up to date.. its the club that dont keep theres updated

Re: What happened
 

The whole either/or argument is total BS in my opinion. You can have an updated website or we can sign players argument is totally out of proportion to what is actually required.

Stanley have a long history of poorly run ventures that die a death within a few months, mainly due to the fact that they hardly ever run properly. Yes, it may well be down to the small number of people working at the club, but common sense would tell you that eventually people will become fed up with constantly being misled.

Just focus on a smaller number of ventures and get them right. That'd be a good start.

Re: What happened
 

100% bob on that TM .. to say seats is a priority over fixing the TV part of the website is ludicrous.. are we really all that backward to say .. oh yeagh thats OK then :(

Re: What happened
 

I will hold my hands up and stand corrected.

To me though a web site reflects on the people that own it. A well run well presented up to date site reflects well on the company that own/run it. The same also apllies to the opposite senario. To a person who stumbles on it and finds it in a bad way might think that the club is not worth bothering about.
The site is there to sell the club to potential fans investors sponsers etc so it needs to be tip top. There is an answer somewere but it has yet to be found.

Re: What happened
 

They could pay me a small retainer to take control, sort it all out and make sure it runs correctly.. get rid of all the old out of date stuff.. add new stuff.. fix whats wrong..

But they wont.. because the webmaster who is responsible is already being paid.. cant pay two :)

Re: What happened
 

But this is the situation; small full time staff , hundereds of regular tasks to do; so some non essential tasks fall by the wayside.

I really could go and on; but lets leave it at this; Bury employee a FULL TIME media manager, ASFC prefer to employ full time footballers. That's the current club strategy. It's a simple choice. IF we could increase revenue into the club, then we could have a more surfisticated infrastructure behind the scenes.

When will the penny drop that running a full time football club on gates of 1500 is almost impossible!!

Re: What happened
 

so the answer is dump the webmaster if he aint doin it, n employ you.

Re: What happened
 

Then there is something needed to sell the club to more fans and the website is a start. If you wanted to shop for something online and there was 2 sites with the same deal and price but one looked good and informative the other basic and tatty which would you use?

Sorry but sometimes you have to spend money to make money!!

Re: What happened
 

so southern red please tell whats the difference between a webmaster that can do the job n one that don't? thats nowt to do with extra expense.:rolleyes:

Re: What happened
 

It doesn't take a more sophisticated set up to keep the website up-to-date. All it needs is for someone (I'm not naming names) to take 30 minutes per day (at a maximum) to update the content. I know that content has/had been provided for the site (updates, etc) and was never used (all it needed was uploading). That's nothing to do with a small staff, but everything to do with a short-sighted outlook.

Re: What happened
 

well personally i think the website is a very important part of accrington stanley on many levels.. i certainly wouldnt describe it as a non essential :(

Re: What happened
 

correct, n to describe as non essential dont say much fer the big guns does it.:(

Re: What happened
 

for the news and other parts of the site i made editors.. it litrally is as simple as posting a messge on here.. its just the same.. log in... add news... press send and the news page is updated.. hence my two minutes quote .... it beggers belief that the seats project could be in jeapordy if someone took the time to add news to the site..

But as you say.. been here so many times before :( I guess the accy observer and the telegraph has to be our main source of news.. which is a shame

IMHO :)

Re: What happened
 

everyone is aware of stanleys financial position, but its wearing a bit thin if this is being used as n excuse not to run the website properly.:mad:

Re: What happened
 

In response to SR's request for more fans to help out - Many of the older regular posters on here have at one time or another been regular 'helpers', the thanks you tend to get range from blind ignorance to 'who the f### are you'. Many of the newer fans have made efforts to lend their support and the response tends to range from none to none. All the evidence has been on here for years.

You are different so please don't take offence but certain people at the top tend to think that the fans don't count and are more of a hinderance than a help. Don't believe? take a poll.

As for ASFC TV, has any money been taken from people for their subscriptions? has the direct debit system been taken down until such time as it is up and running again full time?

The posters on here have it right, the website is an extra-essential media resource and should be used as such - the effing papers should use it for their stories rather than the other way around. But it doesn't matter who is webmastering if there are no stories being fed to that person. News has always slow in coming forth (again someone doesn't think that we need to know whether somebody is injured or coming back, or whether the reserve side has won or lost again) but at least when Kipax was doing the job previously the pages were updated.

Does anybody still try to ring Fraser Eagle for away travel?
Does anybody still pay their fivers/tenners/twenties for 'legends' - has anybody ever been invited to a do as promised?

Re: What happened
 

Add "existing" into that and you have it spot on there macca..

Re: What happened
 

Well I do my two bits, there done every week, OK sometimes don't do the league table when we play a Tuesday night etc due to working but its done ASAP.
The posters are ALL done at the beginning of the season and just changed if they change the date.
I don't mind if the TV site is having trouble or having to get some legal stuff in place etc, would prefer it to take me to an error page, just don't want to watch someone banger racing an old Nissan :rolleyes:

Re: What happened
 

Does seem a tad odd that the vols can get their contributions to the site on yet the club cannot. Macca nailed it with the comment on the views that some take of the fans. Fans put coin in the pot for the club yet they are treated like a skin tic to be flicked of when they make the top itch. Money is going to be scarce for a while thanks to the bankers balls up globally that we have at the mo. The club needs to try anything and everything to get a small share of the limited funds fans have and keeping them up to date would help. Fans should be treated like that nice warm duvet that keeps the club warm.

I may stay too far away to get to all home games but if in Accy and one is on I go and that is me doing my bit. I would like to keep up with the goings on on the website but if its inaccurate I cannot and so will many others be in the same boat. A consesus has to be reached that will keep all happy and encourage involvement from fans but all the dissing of them stops it. The knowledge is out there that can help but the club has to be willing to help them help the club. Its time to start behaving like a family club and not one that only wants its "family" when the warm brown smelly sticky stuff starts flying.

Re: What happened
 

i think the problem is spug, the "Gods" see the website as n irritant, they are too shortsighted to see its the future n will help put dosh in the coffers.:rolleyes:they seem to me,to treat the fans with disdain.:gooddog:

Re: What happened
 

The gods will fans too far and they will regret it big time. :( What they think of as an irritant can make them money yet because they wont go to Specsavers they will rue not having the site.

Here is a club local to me that has less cash but this is their site;

East Stirlingshire FC

Also a "mid range" team;

Partick Thistle Football Club

And "top drawer" so to speak;

Falkirk FC

Re: What happened
 

Ain't that the way everybody types K-P:D

Re: What happened
 

It was more to do with the way I am sprawled out in front of the comp. :cool:

Re: What happened
 

Excuse me for seeming ignorant, but as many of you know I not a reds fan but like to see them doing well, what is this TV thing, is an in ground thing which shows match highlights pre-match and in the club house or is there more to it, I would think an up-to-date Web Site is more important, it keeps long distance fans updated and provides would be fans of an insight into the club, if an up-to-date Web Site can't be maintained it could b counter productive to say the least, just a though:confused:

Re: What happened
 

Southernred, how about employing an apprentice? Someone who can help with the little jobs around the club. Help lee in the shop , update the website, reply to emails, help around the stadium. The wages of an apprentice is around £100 a week. For this all the "little" jobs could be done and people happy. Their first job in the morning could be update the website. With employing an apprentice this shows the club helping young people in the community. Good idea or not?

Re: What happened
 

Not ignorant just showing what the lack of a decent site does to the neutral person perusing the site. You are one of many who have problems with the site. If the trouble it causes you is multiplied by thousands then how much is the club losing out on. Even 1% of those were given a decent site it is money in the coffers.

Re: What happened
 

fc,
I for one think it is a terribly good idea! And would(along with 99 others)help to contribute to their(apprentices)wages!!!!

Re: What happened
 

..... and further more to it being a good idea, there are many organisations around who would provide the bulk of their wages - such as North Lancs Training Group etc (just in case anybody wanted to know which direction to look in).


Nobody has ever said that the staff at ASFC don't work hard, but Mick Schultz is the lottery manager as well as kit man, as well as stadium manager, as well as H&S dude, as well as McDonalds go-getter as well as ....... I am sure he concentrate on a better lottery (not a dig) if he didn't have to spend hours a week washing,drying and ironing kit.

This applies to every member of staff - let em do their jobs

Re: What happened
 

What about sponsoring an apprentice, god we've enough members no here, I don't support Stanley but I'd chip in, if it couldn't be funded solely on here it may just rattle a few cages, and what about or local paper, in my experience Mervin usually comes up Trumps when it comes to local causes, just a though. I know money is a bit tight at the moment and a lot of you chaps do pay out to support Stanley so please don't jump all over me for suggesting this, remember out of acorns

Re: What happened
 

Theres hundreds and young people how could easily do little jobs around the club that staff their dont have time to do! I know plenty of people who would be intrested. At £90/100 a week its nothing if half was payed by nltg or traning 2000 and half by the club.

Re: What happened
 

Would his/her job title be an Apprentice Schultz ? ;)

Re: What happened
 

Apprentice helper sounds like a good idea...which means, of course, that the club will ignore it completely. :rolleyes:

Re: What happened
 

To add my pennies of opinion, southernred, its ok requiring the help of the fans voluntary but in experience on many levels in all thing ASFC atm, is the fact that people to volunteer their help many many times ie shoveling snow off pitch for one but something that tends to repeat itself is that altho the club need the help the appreciation doesn't go far enough imho. I really admire Mick Shultz because what i have seen he does a heck of alot, the reliance on him is immense but would come a time before it gets beyond the pail for him & his generosity of his skills & time become the breaking point.

Same is felt within the supporters club, same members time again putting their time & effort in becoming not appreciated by lack of support with exception of the same people year after year. The club have not done anything really to help the supporters club nor is their interest unless we can offer them, something 1st - which really maddens me! I do fear for the supporters club's existance if it continues to be lacking in support - not neccessarily membership subs - BUT help & support during various activities organised by the osc ie kids party being cancelled which is a 1st as long as i've been involved with the osc usually well supported. What im pointing out is that at bottom level as osc is feeling the strain nevermind the club itself - which i think is its own victim of its operation.

Re: What happened
 

This is a nettle that ASFC must grasp - and grasp very quickly. I have read through and thought about all the posts on this topic. As TM has said, "deja vu", and K-P has expressed a similar thought.

Does ASFC actually want to increase attendances? Or is it content to think that Accrington is a small town between Blackburn and Burnley and therefore attendances will never really improve - so let's just try to survive on what we have? If ASFC does indeed want to improve attendances, does it give consideration to strategies by which this could be achieved? If a tirade from the Chairman against the local population was a strategy, that certainly backfired. So does ASFC consider any positive strategies? If so, surely an up-to-date website would be one of these strategies. There is huge interest in the club outside the town. Rarely a day goes by without me being asked about the ASFC sticker on my car.

Just as importantly, does the club want to keep the fans which it presently has? Again, are strategies discussed at a senior level about how to maintain interest? At a really basic level, why is there not an ever-growing range of goods in the shop?

It has seemed to me that ASFC has no focus; it does not know what it wants to achieve. If that is the case, it will always lack direction. It might be a bit trendy but a good start would be what has come to be called a "mission statement". It would then know what it seeks to achieve (ok, it may be simply survival - but in the Football League or merely as a football club?) and then it would devise strategies to achieve its aim(s). An immediate consequence of that would be to establish a set of minimum standards. As an example, I recently had occasion to contact another Football League club. I received an immediate reply saying that my letter had been received and, in accordance with the club's business standards, I would receive a reply to my specific concern within 7 working days. And I did.

The use of the term "business standards" is important. ASFC is a business - but is it run like a business? I know there is only a small full-time staff, but is there any appraisal of their roles and how they fulfil those roles?

My final point follows from that and takes us back to the website issue. It seems that in recent months, ASFC has established personnel in three new roles. These are General Manager (David O'Neill), Head of Commercial Operations (Gavin Roper), Commercial Manager (Dan Warburton). This information comes from the ASFC website. Is it not possible that one of them, preferably the latter because we are told that he has "experience of marketing", could look after the website?

Re: What happened
 

Nail well and truly hit on the head, RR!

Re: What happened
 

My final point follows from that and takes us back to the website issue. It seems that in recent months, ASFC has established personnel in three new roles. These are General Manager (David O'Neill), Head of Commercial Operations (Gavin Roper), Commercial Manager (Dan Warburton). This information comes from the ASFC website. Is it not possible that one of them, preferably the latter because we are told that he has "experience of marketing", could look after the website?

FYI

Gavin Roper has left the club after around 3 months, hence Dan Warburton's arrival

Dan Warburton has been at the club around 3 weeks, during the last one most businesses have been closed for the Christmas and New Year Break.

On another post there was mention of an apprentice type person. This person is already in place. An additional member of staff has been appointed with the help of North Lancs training and has been at the FES for sometime.

Next time I get chance to speak with the main men at the club i'll mention the concern supporters have with the website. However please remember whoever the "editor/ information adder is", they can only add what information is passed their way!! eg: did we really want anybody to know that v Lincoln, we had many injured players and that Paul Mullin wasn't fit enough to travel??;)

The club has to keep favour with a number of media outlets; several of them pay good sponsorship money. IF all the information went to the website first no doubt we would loose some favour with them IMHO:)

Re: What happened
 

Great post Rev, as WH said right on the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: What happened
 

Southern!?

Does that not just sum it up?? HE LEFT 3 MONTHS AGO! I myself can understand the not informing of Mullins injury(keeping your cards close and that)but some things we should be told about!!

And lastly - WHY SHOULD YOU BE WAITING UNTIL YOU GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THE MAIN MEN???? WHY CAN THEY NOT DO WHAT YOU DO AND GET INVOLVED WITH THE WEBSITE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE REAL WORLD!!!??? Mark you know this is not aimed at you, but I think your post sums it up!!!!!!

Re: What happened
 

You can get more then one apprentice. If im right isnt she the woman who helps in reception doing admin? If so im sure if shes doing admin on the computers she can easily type with her skills news to go on the website?

Re: What happened
 

easy mistake to have made as nobody had mentioned this. Good luck wherever you have gone Gavin

Quote:

Originally Posted by southernred (Post 665003) On another post there was mention of an apprentice type person. This person is already in place. An additional member of staff has been appointed with the help of North Lancs training and has been at the FES for sometime.

wouold you be able to confirm what percentage of his/her wages are covered by outside agencies and as to whether we could stock up on them? As I posted earlier, Mick could expand the lottery far better if he wasn't washing kit for a couple of hours a day. You have skills that could be put to far better use than stewarding on matchdays etc etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by southernred (Post 665003) eg: did we really want anybody to know that v Lincoln, we had many injured players and that Paul Mullin wasn't fit enough to travel??;)

it's usually on the messageboard anyway as somebody always knows somebody who knows. But really thats a lame excuse for not putting squad news on the website. God only knows how many we'd have conceded had Lincoln known what tactics to employ :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by southernred (Post 665003) The club has to keep favour with a number of media outlets; several of them pay good sponsorship money. IF all the information went to the website first no doubt we would loose some favour with them IMHO:)

LET and The Observer surely don't pay sponsorship money? But regardless, there are many things that could go on the website that wouldn't upset anybody. For instance the Granada mockumentary showed dressing room footage of players paying their fines - it was class! Let's have a weekly table showing who gets fined for what!!!! I thought it hilarious that low paid players such as Mangan and Grant were paying more than 'dressing room joker' Ian Craney. There also must be a birthday a week for Stanley employees - tell em happy birthday. Let's see some of the Gold Bond winners, or details for the half-time draw - who won and how much? If people think they are missing out then they are much more likely to join in. I know that the club shop has recently come into a load of extra stock (or are about to - courtesy of the OSC) does anybody know? Who won man of the match last week? week before? put a picture up.

I log onto the site a few times a day as its my home page, before that I used to check at least twice a day just in case - we all want to be first to 'break the news' to a mate. My understanding of websites is that the more 'hits' they get, the more they are worth for advertising.

I applaud your efforts in defending the club where you can Mark, but I sense a weakening of your resolve :p

Re: What happened
 

i agree with you i thought the footage of player payin fines was class and at the end of the season the person that pays the most fines has to do a forefit ot something along the lines of that - be good to see who gets fined they dont have to show how much they have to pay but just things like that! how about a shirt signing after the match the players go in the club bar and you can get your shirt signed by them or even pictures! even though they are low league players there will be juinor fans that want to be like them! the club should a do a questions and answer sheet, you download a list of questions from the club website, say like asking! what more information could go into the programme etc and people answer and email them back that way the club are getting to know what the fans want! what the fans dis-like etc

Re: What happened
 

Having read through the posts several times and the majority I do agree with whilst also understanding the Club side to a degree, It is a very fine line to get the balance right on staffing etc. on limited budgets, but as people have said over & over again the Website is the key to so many things.

Whether that be fans looking to see the latest news, the latest offers or goodies available in the Store, companies who may be looking to see what is on offer for perhaps sponsoring a game etc.

It is key to so many things and income streams but at the moment is probably being used for none or at the very best to it's minimum effect:o

Re: What happened
 

QED!!

Hopefully the more general issues which I have raised will be considered worthy of discussion within the club.

As always, though, thanks for your efforts, Southernred, in trying present ASFC to us in this forum.

Re: What happened
 

Nice post MCR!

Re: What happened
 

It's time the web was updated as the only time i find anything out is from you fellow members of the forum,as for the webmaster does it really work.I e;mailed a photo of me and grimps wearing our accy shirts outside bridlington towns ground about 5 months ago but it never even got on the list.So whats the use of contributing anything if it gets ignored,it seems as though it's right what other people say on here that only money making things appear on the main web site.To be honest it's a shame when the same old stuff is on the main page,it's time it was improved for the better,so come on accy lets have regular news ad updates on the site.A ND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL AT ASFC AND ALL ON THE FORUM'

ACCY TILL I DIE.:D:D:D:D:D

Re: What happened
 

I posted up a little while ago about having perhaps a fans page in the Programme it is still something I would like to include.

If anybody has any pictures of themselves or somebody they would like to perhaps pass a message on to eg Happy Birthday, Well Done on Passing Your Driving Test or Exams or just an hello to everybody.

It does not have to include a picture just perhaps a memory of your first game you attended?

If you would like a mention in an upcoming programme please feel free to email me at [email protected]

Maybe if anybody is interested could also do a few questions & answers something along the lines of:

Name

First Stanley Game Attended?

Favourite Current Stanley Player & why?

Favourite All Time Player & why?

Best Away Ground Visited?

What have been your best Stanley memories & Why?

Again please feel free to contact me:)

Re: What happened
 

Snap! Same thing happened to me. I risked hypothermia to pose in my Stanley shirt on the summit of Roseberry Topping before the Darlo game, but never got any acknowledgement for my e-mail with attachment.

Re: What happened
 

It's interesting to read some of the comments on this thread, as a general air of alienation seems to permeate through it.

I posted months ago about the dangers of alienating the fan-base, especially the loyal few. It seems as though it hasn't got any better and I know that I personally have little interest in the club as a whole. I enjoy going to the games and the social aspects of that, but my general interest in the club has waned to an all time low.

Re: What happened
 

When that happens amongst the Die Hard supporters like yourself TM, it becomes very frightening indeed, especially within the lower division clubs, its very easy for dissatisfied supporters to go elsewhere these days with so much footy on the box, and the actual cost of supporting a club is getting more expensive every season. No club can afford to alienate its true support, its the thin end of the wedge and a recipe for disaster

Re: What happened
 

I wonder how many players we would not be able to sign should the club put online information on the pitch inspection at Rochdale. :rolleyes::(

Re: What happened
 

well they would just check who we are playing website or if they have sky sports news on it comes on there saying rochdale to have pitch inspection at 11am ob saturday for their game against accrington stanley so its not like they cant find out anyway

Re: What happened
 

It must run into the hundreds but I did hear because of the money saved by not updating the website we are getting Torres on loan to prove his fitness.:rolleyes:

Re: What happened
 

your not wrong just come back from the club shop and i woundered who the blonde haired person was talking to coleman on the car park :eek:

Re: What happened
 

oh no not mark roberts back LOL

Re: What happened
 

Na it was Robbie Savage:D

Re: What happened
 

Just so we all know; the way to get an update is to firstly wait for all other media outlets to release a story then ask for it on here :D

Re: What happened
 

Are you sure it wasnt our own SR................telling Coley about the lack of info on the Fishy Site!!!?..................:eek::p:eek:

Re: What happened
 

Just a quick thanks to the club for listening to the comments and keeping the updates coming over the past few days. For the innovation shown in the new online Gold Bond payment plan as well. Long may it continue.