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andyh 24-09-2009 11:11

Hyde United
 
Another club in trouble with the HMRC.

Hyde United FC unofficial supporters' forum • View topic - Statement From The Board

Wynonie Harris 24-09-2009 11:49

Re: Hyde United
 
Not just in trouble, but wound up! Which just goes to show that you can't mess around with HMRC. Going to them at the end of October with £200K or some other partial sum and hoping they'll accept it is not a gamble I would like to take with our club.

cashman 24-09-2009 12:11

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 747401)
Not just in trouble, but wound up! Which just goes to show that you can't mess around with HMRC. Going to them at the end of October with £200K or some other partial sum and hoping they'll accept it is not a gamble I would like to take with our club.

this is what ive feared all along, my sympathy to the "Hyde Faithfull" but fear a lack of openess n foresight may come back to bite our arse.:(

Wynonie Harris 24-09-2009 13:12

Re: Hyde United
 
The thing is, poor Hyde went to court hoping to get a final adjournment. They didn't.

As for Stanley, Rob Heys said when the present crisis first broke that they were looking at ways to pay off £200,000 "and then they'll hopefully give us extra time to pay off any more we might have to find."

Do you want to take a gamble like that with the future of the club you love?...I don't.

yonmon 24-09-2009 13:29

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 747409)
The thing is, poor Hyde went to court hoping to get a final adjournment. They didn't.

As for Stanley, Rob Heys said when the present crisis first broke that they were looking at ways to pay off £200,000 "and then they'll hopefully give us extra time to pay off any more we might have to find."

Do you want to take a gamble like that with the future of the club you love?...I don't.

The worrying thing is Wyn.........Looking at the picture THEY are presenting to us...they just might !!!!...

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ???'....(Do tell us, in honest and forthright terms, just where you are going!!!...and, more importantly, how you intend getting there!!)

ps. I fear that this thread is going to Duplicate what is being posted elsewhere !...so I too am so sorry for the good folk at Hyde United..an important piece of non-league history vanishing into HMRC prompted oblivion!!

cashman 24-09-2009 13:56

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 747409)
The thing is, poor Hyde went to court hoping to get a final adjournment. They didn't.

As for Stanley, Rob Heys said when the present crisis first broke that they were looking at ways to pay off £200,000 "and then they'll hopefully give us extra time to pay off any more we might have to find."

Do you want to take a gamble like that with the future of the club you love?...I don't.

thats exactly what it is, as i have already said to em the other week,:eek: whilst rob has been quoted as saying ya can't blame the taxman only doing his job, fair enough! if things don't work out, BLAME CAN be put firmly at the door of those who are at the helm, for despite all the transparency bullsh1t, have not clearly told the fans the real position or the options.:(

Reamer 25-09-2009 09:19

Re: Hyde United
 
This piece about Hyde contains info that may be relevant to ASFC if things don't go to plan.... I hope it becomes irrelevant

NonLeagueDaily.com

yonmon 25-09-2009 09:32

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reamer (Post 747650)
This piece about Hyde contains info that may be relevant to ASFC if things don't go to plan.... I hope it becomes irrelevant

NonLeagueDaily.com

As Accrington Stanley are 'Bigger' than Hyde United...and thus more resourceful ...or is it SHOULD BE more resourceful ?...the reported position should never have to be faced Reamer!!......BUT ????

I share your Hopes!!!

'ON STANLEY!!!.....ON!!!!'

jaysay 25-09-2009 09:51

Re: Hyde United
 
My Daughter used to work for Revenue and Customs, and when all this flared up she just said, they will have to have all their ducks in a row by the set date or its curtains, the people who deal with that sort of case were kicked out of the gestapo for cruelty, they don't take prisoners and they are ruthless, down to the last penny

Reamer 25-09-2009 12:28

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 747653)
As Accrington Stanley are 'Bigger' than Hyde United...and thus more resourceful ...or is it SHOULD BE more resourceful ?...the reported position should never have to be faced Reamer!!......BUT ????

I share your Hopes!!!

'ON STANLEY!!!.....ON!!!!'

:)

Yonmon, I'm shocked to the core to see that your unbounded optimism is showing signs of wear. You've inserted a big BUT???? in your reply. Trust that this is just a minor blip and you'll be in fine fettle for tonight's game. A win against the Crewe would be a big lift after a week of dearth

cashman 25-09-2009 12:32

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reamer (Post 747689)
:)

Yonmon, I'm shocked to the core to see that your unbounded optimism is showing signs of wear. You've inserted a big BUT???? in your reply. Trust that this is just a minor blip and you'll be in fine fettle for tonight's game. A win against the Crewe would be a big lift after a week of dearth

Fear not reamer Yonmon will be in top nick this evening, cashy will make sure of that.:);)

Reamer 25-09-2009 12:46

Re: Hyde United
 
Glad to hear it

yonmon 25-09-2009 13:15

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reamer (Post 747689)
:)

Yonmon, I'm shocked to the core to see that your unbounded optimism is showing signs of wear. You've inserted a big BUT???? in your reply. Trust that this is just a minor blip and you'll be in fine fettle for tonight's game. A win against the Crewe would be a big lift after a week of dearth

With the aid of Cashy and Wyn and the gang who could not be in fine fettle for a Football League match at 'The Crown'!

BUT.....Yes, I am afraid that with the thought of £200+K to be raised in an impossibly short period of time...with images of apathetic management of the emergency emanating from 'The Powers that be??'...with insufficient, inaccurate, and conflicting snippets of information from one source and another being placed in front of my unbelieving eyes....and armed with the same accurate knowledge as Jaysay...That the faceless ones at HMRC are utterly ruthless beings , who see sentiment and flexibility as words non-existent in their Vocabularies !....Then my current image of the Status Quo is one of the Club appearing as a wounded Antelope surrounded by a flock of
burping Vultures !...and Tarzan being almost totally deaf to it's imminent demise! ....So whilst Alfred.E. ...'HIM'...and myself still cling to Alfred's admonition 'What me Worry ?'....I'm feeling just a little concerned !!...
and there's apparently no-one, other than the wonderful fundraising fans, wanting to convince me otherwise!!....

Being a student of Physiognomy (Still a useful Science!)...I intend to make a close study of several VIP Phyzogs tonight to determine the demeanour and emotions displayed thereon......If they're as long and dejected as those they were displaying following the great win over Darlington, then this should tell us a lot...

SO...go on Reamer...you have a good stare at them as well...and post your analysis at a later date !..

ps...Alfred.E. 's just pointed out that Once I get started, I don't know where to begin....so I'll shut up!!

'QUO VADIS STANLEY ????'

Reamer 25-09-2009 15:38

Re: Hyde United
 
Nice to see you're gettin a bit pumped up for this one, Yonmon :) ...

.....Flock of Burping Vultures...... is that Vic Reeves new band ? :)

yonmon 25-09-2009 15:56

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reamer (Post 747726)
Nice to see you're gettin a bit pumped up for this one, Yonmon :) ...

.....Flock of Burping Vultures...... is that Vic Reeves new band ? :)

Now, that riposte will, I have no doubt, fly straight over the heads of many !!
But I bet that Wyn will find a more apposite bit of irony...if we wait long enough......

Alfred.E. remarks, in his usually droll manner ...' And Pink Indians might fly by in a flux !!'

Badinage.....or Goodinage ??

'ON STANLEY...ON !!'

Haggis316 26-09-2009 09:00

Re: Hyde United
 
The sister of Dean Stott the ex Burnley and Preston full back who played a decent game for us on trial was telling me at work about 10 days ago that he had signed for Hyde.

Wynonie Harris 01-10-2009 09:33

Re: Hyde United
 
Hyde United have been saved.

Hyde United Football Club: Official Website

Very happy for them. Let's hope we're feeling the same way at the end of October! :)

VALAIRIAN 01-10-2009 16:22

Re: Hyde United
 
Good news for the club and I hope the are allowed into the cup and get through a few rounds to get some cash.... :)

Minister Onymfo 02-10-2009 19:33

Re: Hyde United
 
Could end up playing us in November if all goes well . it would be a nice touch

maccawozzagod 02-10-2009 19:58

Re: Hyde United
 
some of the Ultras are going along to the saturday match the day after we play Grimsby. It would be a nice touch if a lot of us went to that match as some sort of attempt at payback to the football community for the help we have received in recent weeks. Could we get enough together for a coach?

Minister Onymfo 02-10-2009 20:05

Re: Hyde United
 
Good idea :)

MikeA 03-10-2009 05:40

Re: Hyde United
 
Still in t'Cup as well:
Hyde United Football Club: Official Website :)

VALAIRIAN 26-10-2009 18:08

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 750055)
some of the Ultras are going along to the saturday match the day after we play Grimsby. It would be a nice touch if a lot of us went to that match as some sort of attempt at payback to the football community for the help we have received in recent weeks. Could we get enough together for a coach?


:)

katei77 26-10-2009 18:12

Re: Hyde United
 
how much would it b approx?for travel and gate?

K.S.H 26-10-2009 18:19

Re: Hyde United
 
Last I heard (Sat) no coach, just going in cars, entry prices
2008/09 Admission
Adults: £10
Senior Citizens, Juniors & Concessions: £4
Children under 14 accompanied by an Adult: £1

Seating is charged at £2 per person, all classes.

Taken from Hyde United Football Club: Official Website

CLAYTON RED 26-10-2009 18:47

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 750055)
some of the Ultras are going along to the saturday match the day after we play Grimsby. It would be a nice touch if a lot of us went to that match as some sort of attempt at payback to the football community for the help we have received in recent weeks. Could we get enough together for a coach?

I have just had a look think they are away that day


At this moment in time we are awaiting conformation from both the league and FA that we can re-commence fixtures but it is fairly certain we will be travelling to Farsley Celtic on Saturday in the Blue Square North. The FA will decide if we can remain in the FA Cup and if so will give us a date for ourhome tie against Salford City. Please watch the website for further details as and when we get them.

K.S.H 26-10-2009 18:53

Re: Hyde United
 
Sat 31/10/2009 Vauxhall Motors (H) Conference North 15:00

Hyde United Football Club: Official Website

K.S.H 26-10-2009 18:56

Re: Hyde United
 
The report you quoted Trev was from the 30th of Sept

CLAYTON RED 26-10-2009 18:58

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 756864)
The report you quoted Trev was from the 30th of Sept

what a wombat lol sorry ppl

Willie Miller 26-10-2009 21:31

Re: Hyde United
 
More the merrier peeps.....
In colours please too show our support

AsFc62 27-10-2009 12:29

Slightly Worrying!
 
Administration looms for Southend


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...uthend_226.gif
Officials from HM Revenue & Customs are seeking to place Southend United Football Club into administration because of an unpaid tax bill. The club were due to go to court to face a winding-up order on Wednesday, but were told that the HMRC changed its position on Monday night.
They will now face an administration hearing on 4 November.
In a statement on the club website, chairman Ron Martin said: "We are not looking to escape debts."
Martin added: "Mine and my family's life has been entwined with Southend United, often taking up every waking hour and I have been doing my best, and will continue to do so, to make sure than HMRC do not rip this from us.
"Their hostile action is not only unwelcome but also destructive




Have we been given the same sanction????

Fourth official 27-10-2009 12:32

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
We are not alone.I am sure there could be more.

VALAIRIAN 27-10-2009 12:38

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
Are we different, as we have already been faced with a winding up order???? Confused and all it would take is for somebody at the club to put us in the picture :confused: :)

JEFF 27-10-2009 12:46

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 757050)
Are we different, as we have already been faced with a winding up order???? Confused and all it would take is for somebody at the club to put us in the picture :confused: :)

I thought that we had been put in the picture - DON says we are going to pay the bill and we will be OK.

Owd Bob 27-10-2009 13:42

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
I don't fully understand why we are subject to a winding up order, as opposed to administration.
Does anyone know exactly why it is a winding up order?

maccawozzagod 27-10-2009 14:41

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
I might be wrong but under administration they come in and asset strip you until the debt/debts are paid. We have nowt to strip

DAV007 27-10-2009 19:27

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 757083)
I might be wrong but under administration they come in and asset strip you until the debt/debts are paid. We have nowt to strip

got it in one.
Southend can probably cover the £600,000 they owe with assets.
It may cost them minus 10 points, loss of the majority of the squad, having to rent the ground and a likely relegation.
BUT
there will still be a Southend after it.

Outback Ozzy 28-10-2009 11:07

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
Weymouth too now in the same boat as Southend - they have suffered over the last few seasons, at least, hopefully, we will have a club come middle of November.

AccyJay 29-10-2009 09:40

Re: Hyde United
 
Where & at what time is everybody meeting up?

We could do with a signifcant amount of people attending this game.

Do we have any numbers so far?

katei77 29-10-2009 09:56

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
League One side Southend United were also given a week to settle a £690,000 debt with HMRC or face a winding-up order yesterday

Good luck Southend utd

Tealeaf 29-10-2009 10:04

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
Did you know that when Accy Transport stopped running it's trams, they were sent to Southend? A useless piece of information, so I'll shut up now.

AccyAggro 29-10-2009 10:05

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
I dont think its the same as if the club think they have enough time to pay the bill, then the dont need to go into admin, just like we did, but if theirs was a shorter time scale and the bill is too big for the time, then they go into admin and pay it a different way

Anyways good luck to them and any club struggling, not an easy time

smudgie 29-10-2009 10:08

Re: Slightly Worrying!
 
Good luck Southend and Weymouth, not an easy time :(

AccyMad 29-10-2009 10:46

Re: Hyde United
 
Would like to go but last time we went to Hyde on public transport it was a nightmare - bus, tram, another bus and many differing directions from people along the way [ sorry but think I'll give it a miss.

Willie Miller 29-10-2009 16:39

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyJay (Post 758087)
Where & at what time is everybody meeting up?

We could do with a signifcant amount of people attending this game.

Do we have any numbers so far?

Would suggest we ask about for drivers & fill the spaces via here....

Meet at 12 get there for 1????

Drinky poos, have a laugh with the "tigers!" fans...

Willie Miller 31-10-2009 11:42

Re: Hyde United
 
Anyone? Goin in 20 mins?

VALAIRIAN 31-10-2009 12:24

Re: Hyde United
 
Not going WM - too far for me, but if there is a bucket going round, stick a tenner in from me and I will cash you up next Saturday, cheers :)

VALAIRIAN 01-11-2009 20:51

Re: Hyde United
 
How did this go???

K.S.H 01-11-2009 20:58

Re: Hyde United
 
It was a roar :D
Went well, was about 10 of us there, bit of a reality check with a 308 crowd, game ended 2-2 (was winning 2-1 but VM got a penalty in injury time)
At least we put a bit of money into the club, all paid gate money and bought something out of the club shop, scarf's £2 each :eek:
No bucket collection there.

VALAIRIAN 01-11-2009 21:02

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 759429)
It was a roar :D
Went well, was about 10 of us there, bit of a reality check with a 308 crowd, game ended 2-2 (was winning 2-1 but VM got a penalty in injury time)
At least we put a bit of money into the club, all paid gate money and bought something out of the club shop, scarf's £2 each :eek:
No bucket collection there.

Cheers K. :) How ironic 308 crowd, hope WM got me 5 scarves :D Thanks for the report.

Willie Miller 01-11-2009 21:06

Re: Hyde United
 
Ha Ha, didnt see yer message till I'd long gone matey....

Was a good laugh, although it is refreshing to remember how far we have come. Was in the bar at 2:55 & it felt like 12 noon it was that quiet....

Our presence was appreciated

VALAIRIAN 01-11-2009 21:25

Re: Hyde United
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 759436)
Ha Ha, didnt see yer message till I'd long gone matey....

Was a good laugh, although it is refreshing to remember how far we have come. Was in the bar at 2:55 & it felt like 12 noon it was that quiet....

Our presence was appreciated

Cheers WM, I have just been on their website and sent a tenner via paypal, so all I missed out on was the ale :thepint: :thepint: :thepint: ;)


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