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As some of you have guessed, Ilyas has now pulled away from the club as a result of a meeting between him and the directors yesterday.

Please do not think that a 'clique' has developed of those in the know and those not in the know. But it was felt that Mr Khan should have the right to have his say first before it was posted by others. He has now spoken to the media and there should be stories breaking tomorrow with the story in his words.

However, I have often believed that we deserve to know whats going on before the wider public do, so now that he has spoken it is fair to put the story out there. I will not go into more detail than necessary at this point, you will have to read his account first (tomorrows Telegraph should be carrying the story).

This is indeed a dark day for Accrington Stanley and I have felt physically ill today with the realisation that unless O'Neil has a plan B we are fecked.

Ilyas was going to match the directors offer of cash. Now he will not.

Peter Marsden was a large percentage of the cash that the directors were allegedly going to put in. Now he will not.

I would like to personally and publically thank Ilyas for the efforts he has made on our behalf. Please do not think of this as a desertion by him, but his words were similar to Marsdens "you can't help people who don't want to be helped"

I don't honestly know where this episode now leaves us.

We either back the O'Neil regime to the hilt and try to find 200k in three weeks or we stand back and watch the club die.

I have spent the majority of this day trying to make sense of it all and I haven't managed. I have also spent the day trying to conjur up the words to try to instil some sort of confidence or fight into the fanbase but I have failed. Unless O'Neil has a rabbit to pull out of the hat we are staring at a rebuilding job from the pit of the North West Counties League. :(

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Very sad news Macca :( As you say, we must hope they have a "Plan B", Trouble is, I do not think they had a "Plan A" :( :( :(

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:) Thank you Ilyas for your relentless efforts to try a turn this Great little club of ours and a mean ours the surpporters of Accrington Stanley around and put it on a even keel,we all wait with baited breath to see what will happen and what plan of action unfolds from the club

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We had the Miracle!

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as an after thought I would urge everybody to choose their words carefully as to what they post on here regarding this situation. The absolute last thing we need is for supporters to be threatened with legal action for slander or similar. You know what I mean

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Well that O'niell fella better have a white rabbit tucked away up his sleeve ...
Thank you Ilyas, and by all accounts, can't blame you for pulling stumps.

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Don't blame you Ilyas, you have tried, God knows, you really have.
I have absolutely no faith in the current board to rectify this situation.
It's a real shame.

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Now i feel gutted and sick to the stomach and fact is slowly realising the horrifics of 62 in 09 is becoming a dark reality. Does this take me back into safety of the arm chair support of the prem league ? For one the 200k is now un achievable, the major holder with potential to put hand in pocket has walked and with reality the other directors including the don has no more to add, i can say seriously stuffed indeed with no way out unless don walks but isn't that a bit late. Even if ilyas came back to the table the funds he has to save us wont get to the tax man in time. I predict a riot. :(

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ps forgot to thank ilyas for trying and sorry that all he got was a sore head, brick wall and head banging against it and all that.

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Stanley till i die!

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Serious q what do we do now ? And what about the fund?

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I'm not a football follower but I have been hoping that somehow a way could be found out of this mess. Hope and pray that Stanley can survive.

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whats happend to all the bucket collection moneys and other fund raising moneys?? Last up dated 01/10/09 £81,419.23

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Let’s just step back and get a firm grip on this; I don’t know anything of what’s going on either within the club or with the ASSF and Mr. Khan. But let’s not get too depressed at this time and certainly let’s not get defeatist….in 62 people couldn’t put up the kind of emotional or physical support that we can today. Rather than talk this situation down; turn the focus back on those responsible…make your protests to the club in the strongest legal terms, write or email the club asking for clarification of the situation and demand reassurances as to our future; protest in a none violent but determined manner along every stand at the crown, don’t offend or tempt the stewards into defensive action work within the law and the grounds bylaws but make Mr. O’Neil and anyone else aware that they are alone if they fail to deliver this club from the brink of a situation of there making. Above all sing and support those lads on the pitch any other time use the media to get the message firmly in the Boards head, they can’t do this alone.

Fight this time, don’t sit back, fight and fight hard but within the law at all times…..

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:eek: Sorry but why is everyone saying thank you Ilyas ???

Fair enough he might not be seen to be getting his own way with O'Neill but is that really enough reason to just say I've had enough ?

All this Khan/O'Neill business has been a distraction whilst the club tried to raise the funds I myself have been caught up in it all and just couldn't say who is to blame. Is it O'Neill being stubborn or Khan wanting his share issue ?

Khan said he would match the Directors money then I think he said he would put double what O'Neill would, then to turn round at the 11th hour and say I'm do longer doing any of that stinks to me. Just my opinion people, but I hope someone out there knows how their going to save the club now, please.

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I would suggest we continue with as much gusto as possible to raise as much as we can....

This is our town team & I will support it in any League. I am Accrington, born & bred & I will continue to support my team through the good times & the bad.

Whether fans continue to support the suits in charge;that is up to individuals.

At the moment, Stanley Ultras will not! But we will decide our position when the full story unfolds.

Today, is a shameful day thats for sure................

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Feel the same way Bernie......but not looking very promising.....I feel sorry for the fans who have stuck by Stanley thro thick and thin.....of course the general public will only get to know what the bigwigs allow us to know.........it's such a shame :(

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Shurm, I do not think that you know the full facts, as many on here do not,( I am not saying I do) but power struggles? I think not...

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Has anyone got 200k? If so wap it down on the table, but i know i haven't and neither has the towns people and as caring as im suprised to see that on a daily basis its still way short of the mark needed with all the best interest in the world. As emotive as my opinion is 19 days or so to d day i am as a stanley fan seriously worried. I hope the club can pull something out of the hat and will await as the rest of us till such happens. My concern is this will seriously effect the sos fund raising with all this negative game play off field, im praying for a miracle.

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It could actually be a momentous day. The current board will now have to produce the goods or the backlash will force a complete u-turn. I really don't see what benefit the current board could get by allowing the club to be wound up.

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Ok I understand, I'll bite my tongue for 24 hours then if thats possible, its all b*****ks this why couldn't people just do the best for the club on both sides from the beginning its just so frustrating :swear8::swear8::swear8:

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I reckon O'Niell will put the club into admin, take the 10-15 point deduction and use the money rasied to bolster his new club-I assume he can be a director of it should ASFC go into admin? Did I not read that he wasn't 'registered' (or similar) as a director/chairman of ASFC at the moment?.

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A line from Peter Marsden :- If required I would be happy to act as a mediator - not as a director but as an independent shareholder - but you can only help people if they want to be helped.

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Think its about time we did get to know the true facts so least we know what we are dealing with and can attempt to come up with solutions, as it is with the un certainty its not doing saving asfc any favours.

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If I am not mistaken, we have gone past admin KJ.... I do not believe it to be an option.

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Dont think admin is possible either we are saved or wound up.:confused:

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if ilyas is now out of the picture, is it not time for the Don to give us his side of the story??

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I am seriously thinking of testing this one.:mad:

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Can't see it, relegation brings with it something like £400/£500 grand less in dosh from the league???

Conf money is crap so his business would in effect be worth nil ish

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Well don't...**** sticks long after the smell as gone.

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Good advice echo that be careful its this board thats at stake too baggy if should it get out of hand and lets not despite the frustration and upset sling mud.

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The club can't be put into administration due to HMRC petitioning for a wind up order. I think that it might be possible to save the club if Ilyas and Peter Marsden get their heads together and put a bid in for the club at the winding up hearing. HMRC would be probably willing to give the club a few days if there was a 95% chance of the debt being paid off by Ilyas and Peter. I think that if this was put to HMRC it might well be a viable option in order to get all the money back rather than nothing at all.

Personally I hope that the club can be saved but it will be very difficult given the timescale. I have only been going on for two seasons now but I have thoroughly enjoyed it and lets hope something can be done to keep Stanley going.:)

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I will sleep on it but I wasn't talking about accyweb anyway.

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Heart wrenching moment in my life. In my opinion it looked like the only option availible to keep our club alive.

Emergency meeting anyone ?

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I think that the DON has got to do something and fast! The first thing I would suggest is to tell all us fans exactly what is going on and explain how they are going to raise the money. I think another fans forum should be arranged in order to help us understand what exactly is going on.

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I am now officially worried since this whole thing was first announced - 2 main players offering serious backing have just walked off...

If nothing else it will be a very interesting next couple of weeks - hope we come out the other side like Hyde managed to do... all fingers and toes crossed now.. :(

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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It already has...

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I feel sick..

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:) (Quote) Ilyas was going to match the directors offer of cash (Unquote) So how if anything does this effect the SAAF??? is Ilyas still behind the SAAF if a NEW SHARE issue becomes reality??:)

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once again Ilyas, thank you for everything you have done for the club in the past, and everything you have tried to do for the club in the present.

It is most unfortunate that you feel you have no option but ot walk away from all this and rest assured if the present regime cannot find a way out of this then I personally will find the people who need to be held accountable.

Should you every reconsider your position then you will of course be most welcomed by anybody with Stanley in their heart. It has been a pleasure to work with you and your family for the last couple of months.

ps any chance of lending me personally £250,000 :rolleyes:

thanks Ilyas

Rob

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In a nutshell means now the club and fans are left on their own to save the club? I feel really sick now and feel there's no way now it can be saved unless someone wins the lottery :(

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A sad and regrettable conclusion to all that Ilyas has tried to do for our Club !..after saying a sincere Thanks to him for all his time, and most of all his extreme patience, given to 'The Cause'....all I can say is...'Where to now ??'

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Oh well.. thats that chapter finished..on with the story, and first thing I must do now is get my donation organised..It may well be 'wasted', but unless I give it ago and try to help to save STANLEY, then I won't have a team to visit when I get over.
ON STANLEY ON

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Stunned and bewildered. :confused:

Think the directors need to start explaining pretty sharpish just how they're going to secure the future of our club.

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WE need to hear from the CLUB within days as to the clubs future.........

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Do you think we will get any answers easily from the board?


Emergency open meeting may be helpful?

A peaceful protest at the club?

I am toying with the idea of chaining myself to the doors at ASFC but im not sure that will get anwers or me arrested,not sure a arrest would be helpful to the cause

UNITED WE STAND DEVIDED WE FALL

I do not want to have say the dreaded words to my daughter so i will stand and know many more will also stand,we need a leader for the fans,dont think im the right person to do this,far too hot headed to do that but im sure there is someone who will

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I would just say that now it is in the hands of us, the die hard few!

Support everything that has been organised so far, I know its hard in the current economic climate but the more we have at the hearing, the more chance we have of being given a reprieve....

Its up to us & the compassion of the tax man i am afraid!

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if someone out there can provide the ammunition there will be no shortage of volunteers to lead the troops.

ASSF are meeting tonight to discuss what options we have left and where that will take us. By midnight there may be no ASSF, or by midnight we may be able to provide a rare chink of sunlight - I hope its the latter.

I will post more on this tonight

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More_info_here.

ILYAS Khan has permanently withdrawn all financial offers of support to Accrington Stanley – and Peter Marsden has resigned as vice chairman – following an emergency board meeting after Saturday’s game at Chesterfield

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Somebody needs to tell us just what the hell is going on down there at the Crown. This level of negative publicity is only serving to cast an even deeper shadow over the clubs future. Two very major players have either resigned or walked away both where in the eyes of many the last hope of salvation should the club fail to extract us for this debt.

If you have got this wrong Mr. O’Neil you will have to live with the sigma of killing the hopes and dreams of a Towns people even if they don’t attend the ground, and even if you succeed following this Google Page Ranking shambles you are very unlikely to be held as any kind of saviour or hero; you’ll be lucky to get served in Asda the way your conducting yourself.

I challenge you now to make a clear and concise statement of the clubs financial position; what needs to be done to avoid winding up (not just the SOS fund) it was said that Mr. Marsden was the main contributor behind the club contribution, is this still the case are have you cast us further away from success.

Mr. Khan even if the board of Accrington Stanley disagrees with the need for your financial involvement it is clear to most of us with a brain that it as always been desirable if not imperative; it would have taken far more than the likes of Mr. O’Neil to extinguish the flame that you yourself said burned within you for your Town and your Club.

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I would say before 7pm tomorrow night or it may be a tad uncomfortable sat in the main stand :rolleyes:

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well well well all good on the skint ship . need a new god now

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I take it that Mr. O'Neil is not the only Thorn in Stanley's Crown. Are all these individuals going to dig deep themselves? Perhaps it time they stopped hiding in the shadows and tell us just what they intend to do now...

Who is the Board of Accrington Stanley, will somebody please enlighten us.

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From the 'LT'

I have resigned because I have just got so disillusioned with the in-fighting. There are a lot of stubborn people at the club. There are a lot of strong characters involved and that’s not necessarily a good thing at the moment.


Makes one wonder just what these 'strong' characters have said to, about, or disclosed concerning the one who by his words and actions displayed such affection for, and concern towards the survival of 'The Reds'...must have been something extremely evil or soul-destroying ...or both??.
If this was the case, then Ilyas Khan deserves so much better.

p.s. By their individual and joint behaviour, it is extremely difficult to imagine that there are any 'strong' characters existing at the Club...if there are then they are demonstrating this in a very odd and negative fashion!!

Where to now ???

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Thoroughly dismayed by all this. Why does ASFC always shoot itself in the foot?

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Exactly

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Of whom it has been said many times Willie...He doesn't show compassion...a word not even in his vocabulary.

So does this mean that we're on our own then ???.

'Where to next???'

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im asking the same

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Posted via Mobile DeviceThe ASSF must remain in place. They are needed. If some want to leave ? People will fill those shoes.

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Can this be recorded in anyway?

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I would think that all money raised will go to tax man. I too would like to thank IIyas for his efforts .I am sad it has come to this. The management should realise that when drowning you don't refuse a life belt, sadly it looks like they have.

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May I please join the throng thanking Ilyas for all his efforts, both in the past and the present. I don't think I have met a nicer and more stanley blooded person than you, which is why I am deeply sadden by this latest course of events. Rest assured I will not forget your contribution to the club, even if others do.

The future is darker without the torch you carry.

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Hi just wondered if anyone could tell me where the ASSF meeting is being held? Also is the meeting open to all fans? Anyone know why the story on The Lancashire Telegraph from today about Ilyas has been removed!Wish I had cut and pasted it, was good interesting reading!!!!

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Story now on the MEN website.

Accrington Stanley face vital 24 hours - Accrington Stanley - Football - Sport - Manchester Evening News

Interesting quote from Rob Heys...

Heys said: "It's now a vital 24 hours in the club's history. A lot has happened over the weekend and we now need to take stock, speak to all parties today and try and resolve the issues."

What does he mean "speak to all parties"? Does this mean reopening talks with the ASSF?

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Accrington Stanley face vital 24 hours
Dany Robson

October 05, 2009

CHIEF executive Rob Heys has said it is a vital 24 hours for Accrington Stanley in their battle for survival.

The Reds need to raise £308,000 to pay off an outstanding tax bill or face being wound up by the end of this month.

£90,000 has so far been raised through the "Save Our Stanley" campaign with time running out.

Over the weekend, vice president Peter Marsden has stood down as a director after the Stanley board held a meeting after the game at Chesterfield on Saturday.

And multi millioniare Ilyas Khan, a 17 per cent shareholder in the club, has withdrawn his financial offer of help.

"I wish the club all the best but I am now standing back," said Khan.

Marsden, meanwhile, told the club's website: "Personally I think the main protagonists involved in the off-field war of words afflicting our club should be locked in a room and not let out until they have resolved their differences.

"If required I would be happy to act as a mediator - not as a director but as an independent shareholder - but you can only help people if they want to be helped.

"I would urge the people of Accrington to get behind the SOS campaign if they really want to save our fine old club. Time is running out fast."

Heys said: "It's now a vital 24 hours in the club's history. A lot has happened over the weekend and we now need to take stock, speak to all parties today and try and resolve the issues."

Ilyas Khan said in a statement: “I confirm that I have withdrawn all offers of financial support for ASFC.

“I made this decision with a very heavy heart, and after a great deal of consideration. The club and its directors have been particularly focused on assuring everyone that they will see the situation through.

“In the circumstances I can only wish the club, its players, supporters and staff the very best.

“I also confirm that I have spoken with Peter Marsden.

“I know he made a statement to the directors at the board meeting yesterday, and I admire his courage and his integrity, and wish him well in the future.

“Finally, I confirm that the loan that I made in June of £25,000 through the ASSF will be written off by me.

“I do not wish to receive the money back, and it will therefore become an unconditional donation to the club and thereby lessen its debt by a small margin.”

He added: “Over the past three or four weeks it has become very clear that they don’t want to deal with me and there is only so many times you can make an offer and keep having that offer turned down.”

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This is the original text from the Lancashire Telegraph

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It's still on the LET site; just refresh it if its not there via the link.

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No worries. Somebody said the link didn't work.

The "LT" story is different to the "MEN".

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I would like to think that they're working hard on a plan of action at the moment and that's why Rob has said what he's said.

As for Marcelle, maybe this is the moment when she emerges from her shell and surprises us all...who knows? :confused:

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Now cock, don't talk bollocks....:D

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And let's not forget her "very simple philosophy" : "when you stay happy and focussed on what you want to achieve, everything has a knack of working out the way you want it too (sic)".

So all we need to do is stay happy.

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We where happy in the knowledge that Mr. Khan was there to cushion any failure on the boards behalf and happy knowing that Mr. Marsden was working in the best interests of all concerned.

Now where all ****ing miserable Marcella can go and sling her hook…….Unless she’s got £250k in which case I’ll kiss her arse in the centre circle next Saturday.

Now is there any one with the balls to come forward and be counted....P.S. you will need hard cash.

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Has anybody got any 'happy' pills ?

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I can't help but feel a great sense of worry and trepidation at all I have read over the last couple of days. Being many miles away, down south, I obviously don't know anything like as much of the details of what's going on, the personalities involved, and any agendas (be they hidden or not). But, irrespective of all this, the one thing that matters is ensuring that come the end of the month Stanley is still going.

Everything else is secondary. Egos, politics, alliances, friends, foes, whatever; that doesn't matter. The club is what matters. People come, people go, but above all else the club must remain.

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I've got a bottle of Grouse..............

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On thing about Marcelle, the girl has got foresight...

“There's going to be an awful lot happening over the new few months. It's going to be really exciting for the club.” - 31/07.

...although "exciting" is not quite the word I'd use to describe it. :(

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Mr.Khan thank you for your efforts and your offers.
I am sorry you have wasted your time asnd effort.

I wish to make one point..........

In no other line of business would you expect people to pay off your debt and still allow you to own the company.

It is madness in the extreme and at the very least naive.

Wake up and smell the coffee before it is too late!!!

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I think Mr. ONiel will pull it off.

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you must have your reasons for believing he will pull it off do you care to share these reasons??

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I cannot be transparent at the moment, but I may make a further ststement in a fortnight.

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Excactly

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Many thanks Ilyas for all your help.

It looks like you have been treated badly and probably insulted once to often.

I believe you are 100% Stanley and believe and hope that you will be helping stanley in the league in the future.

My hopes are that it will happen this season.......

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Can anyone please answer this.

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I would love to know too ????

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posted in numerous places but Mark Turner, Bill Holden, Geoff Heap, Jim Kenyon, John de-Maine and formerly Peter Marsden. Frank Martindale is also listed on the woefully out of dat fishy site (see club details) but we know he stepped down at the end of last season.

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Yep I looked at that Rob but it looked out of date. I just want those people Mark not included to please explain to Jack Barrett tomorrow night just why they are so intent on destroying in a matter of weeks what took years of sweat and hardwork just to get where we are now.:(

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I think you'll also find that out of those directors listed, John DeMaine probably wasn't present due to his ongoing health issues. He hasn't made some recent home games so I seriusly doubt he went all the way to chesterfield.

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Would a co-chairman not be a director ? :confused:

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very worried now thers no way we will raise 200 grand through the sos fund but we dont have a lot of choice but to continue and do our best. Thankyou Ilyas for your efforts i have no faith in mr o neil at this present time maybe we should prtest tomorrow night for the first 10 minutes of the game by standing up in the seating areas and sitting down in the standing areas and being silent at the same time

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That serves absolutely no purpose!!!!!!..........

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Stanley Ultra. May I offer you some advice ? We are all (and i mean all, no matter what we might think of oneil, or me or anyone else), united by our love and passion for the club. On that basis, please would you consider NOT doing a public protest at the game ? The reason I would ask you to re-think is that the players ultimately align themselves with the crowd, and it is very easy for a gesture aimed at the management (such as yours might be), to be mis-interpreted. The ultras and all long standing fans deserve to have a say in the club. You deserve to have a say, but I would ask you to think about more dignified ways, and more appropriate ways to express your fear and your frustration. I do not think there are any fans more deserving of a happy future than Stanley, so I fully support and understand your position, but a protest at the game will not, in my humble opinion, be a good move.

I, of all people, have a problem with the way that oneil has continued to decieve and mislead people. But even I have stopped short of turning my anger towards the club itself. Nothing, ever, should be turned towards our players and fans. So, young man (if i may call you that), please shout loudly and cheer for our team. And then find other ways to express your issues with the directors. Post on here, write them a letter, go visit Rob Heys, or simply bang your head against a wall (i can show you some good brick walls in accy and ossy).

Again, please dont misunderstand my points. I love your passion, but a protest on the ground during a game is not right. Not for our club, not now and not ever.