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yonmon 11-10-2009 18:52
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Only COMPROMISE from both sides will result in a really strong ASFC....

A empty room, the main players & a BIG BIG padlock?

Would you not agree WM that at this moment in time...the only location likely for this to take place would appear to be on Fantasy Island !...

Agree with your sentiments though!!

'ON STANLEY...ON!!..TO BETTER THINGS !!'

DAV007 11-10-2009 19:35
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Jase, i disagree mate. How long do you give and how many lessons do Dave and Rob require before we accept they are inadequate for the job. To be fair to Dave and Rob, they have been let down by an appauling commercial team. I think the kids name was/is Dan. What has he achieved? Stanley can go through this experience or grow through it. IMO, this is a fantastic opportunity to clear out the deadwood and debt, and start afresh with new staff on a sustainable budget. The current regime are failures and must go if the club enters into new ownership.

Willie Miller 11-10-2009 20:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 752639)
Jase, i disagree mate. How long do you give and how many lessons do Dave and Rob require before we accept they are inadequate for the job. To be fair to Dave and Rob, they have been let down by an appauling commercial team. I think the kids name was/is Dan. What has he achieved? Stanley can go through this experience or grow through it. IMO, this is a fantastic opportunity to clear out the deadwood and debt, and start afresh with new staff on a sustainable budget. The current regime are failures and must go if the club enters into new ownership.
And so, IMHO, therein lies the problem....

Like Turkeys voting for Xmas

maccawozzagod 11-10-2009 20:30
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Dave and/or Rob needn't have to go. It was never the case and doesn't have to be now. Certainly in the early days we/I was all for working with the club and giving it the tools to go forwards. But as was stated yesterday at the meeting, it would seem that David didn't even understand the deal that was offered.

Anyways, as I reckoned earlier on, the ASSF bid is doomed and as good as over. If David does proceed with the projected borrowing then the deal is done. ASFC avoids the immediate threat and hopes for a big cup draw, or we sell a Bobby Grant or Chris Turner for a large amount that then pays off debts rather than being used to kick on.

As mentioned elsewhere, the ASSF will now need to start looking to the future. Seeing as how we cant/wont be used by the club in the short term future we have the time to start looking at how we evolve and how we utilise all that is good about the club - the fans. It will be my 'special project' so to speak.

viva los Reds

Willie Miller 11-10-2009 20:35
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And hopefully Robert, we will come out stronger!

Until all the bad stuff came to light, the SOS appeal & our need to rally the town had really really consolidated the support. The players too have responded.

maccawozzagod 11-10-2009 20:47
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I dont think the support has split though has it?

we all have different ideas and opinions but I haven't noticed anybody falling out yet, and these are our darkest days! blitz spirit and all that!

I get the point on the SOS and I do agree, but by the same token many were asking questions right from the off. Those that put into buckets to start with were only ever going to give once, maybe twice. The biggest harm to the appeal came from the club not actually pushing anything or offering their own ideas up earlier, or talking/responding to the public. The wristbands never made it onto the website despite me emailing it in under the 'news' banner (not that I should have needed to).

Anyway, like I said, its time to start looking at the future again now that we all know we are safe.

Shurm 11-10-2009 20:54
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:confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752670)

Anyway, like I said, its time to start looking at the future again now that we all know we are safe.
Has it been announced or did I miss something ?

Henry Morton 11-10-2009 20:57
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I don't know Mr. O'Neill, but I do know Rob Heys.

Rob is one of the good guys, and his considerable talents should not be underestimated.

Can anyone on this forum give any example of when Rob might have acted otherwise than in the best interests of Accrington Stanley Football Club?

No, I thought not.

Rob is a truly decent man and is held in high regard by those who know him or have dealt with him (Paul Fletcher of BBC Sport considers him to be exceptional).

He is also someone who helped to rein in Eric's abrasive management style during Stanley's Annus Mirabilis and made the Club so popular.

When I first met Rob Heys I warmed to him immediately, but while I considered him to be knowledgeable about football I was concerned that he was naive in Google Page Ranking, management and accountancy.

How things have changed!

Rob is the proverbial swan, seen by everyone as gliding around as-calm-as-you-like while beneath the water his feet are moving at a prodigious rate.

Robert Heys is by far the best man to be in charge of Accrington Stanley's future.

And I suspect that all the protagonists and pretenders to the Stanley Throne know it.

lancsdave 11-10-2009 21:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752670)
Anyway, like I said, its time to start looking at the future again now that we all know we are safe.
Fact or sarcasm :confused:

Tin Monkey 11-10-2009 21:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Morton (Post 752678)
When I first met Rob Heys I warmed to him immediately, but while I considered him to be knowledgeable about football I was concerned that he was naive in Google Page Ranking, management and accountancy.

How things have changed!
They've changed??? So why are things in the mess they are now then? All 3 areas that concerned you originally are the same ones that are in a mess right now!!!

Stanleymad 11-10-2009 21:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752670)
I dont think the support has split though has it?

we all have different ideas and opinions but I haven't noticed anybody falling out yet, and these are our darkest days! blitz spirit and all that!

I get the point on the SOS and I do agree, but by the same token many were asking questions right from the off. Those that put into buckets to start with were only ever going to give once, maybe twice. The biggest harm to the appeal came from the club not actually pushing anything or offering their own ideas up earlier, or talking/responding to the public. The wristbands never made it onto the website despite me emailing it in under the 'news' banner (not that I should have needed to).

Anyway, like I said, its time to start looking at the future again now that we all know we are safe.
How do u know we are safe? Thing is we ALL dont know then ? :confused:

maccawozzagod 11-10-2009 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 752675)
:confused:

Has it been announced or did I miss something ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 752682)
Fact or sarcasm :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 752685)
How do u know we are safe? Thing is we ALL dont know then ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 752688)
Come on, Rob - spill the beans. This messageboard is going to give me a heart attack.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 752448)
But they were confident of success both in the tax bill & the future.
Quote:
Originally Posted by katei77 (Post 752416)
i do believe that ASFC will be alive in NOV 09





the evidence would certainly point to us being safe.

Dave O'Neil is not interested in our (ASSF) money

The board see no reason to deal with us.

There is no sign of panic at the top

Events are planned for November rather than October

Katie, Willie Miller and Shurm have all spoke directly to The Don and have been somewhat placated.

Do I need to carry on running around trying to fundraise? probably yes, as it means that either the directors will have to put in less money or we will have to borrow less money. I'm not happy about it for what has gone on and what will go on, but we live to fight another day and that is what is important.

still worried for the future though.

Redraine 11-10-2009 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752670)
Anyway, like I said, its time to start looking at the future again now that we all know we are safe.
Come on, Rob - spill the beans. This messageboard is going to give me a heart attack.:confused:

Henry Morton 11-10-2009 21:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 752684)
They've changed??? So why are things in the mess they are now then? All 3 areas that concerned you originally are the same ones that are in a mess right now!!!
TM, have you ever worked for Eric Whalley?
I have.

Rob has only recently emerged from years of Eric's version of management, and the virtual bruises will still be healing.

Rob could have left, but he stayed to try to put things right for the Club and the Supporters - and I think that he is essential to the future of Accrington football.

I respect your opinion but I disagree with it.

Wynonie Harris 11-10-2009 21:15
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I would certainly agree with you there, Mr Morton. I wouldn't know where to start in assessing his management or accountancy skills, as I'm just a simple soul who stands on the Clayton End and I know nothing of such things. However, you're spot on when you say he's a "truly decent man". This was brought home to me a few years ago when I paid to have a memorial plaque for my old fella fixed to one of the seats in the Main Stand. A year or so down the line I went to look for it and discovered that it had mysteriously vanished. I emailed Rob more in hope than expectation - he immediately embarked on a search on the stadium, located it somewhere or other, had it refixed, took a photo and emailed it to me, all in the space of two days. Obviously it shouldn't have been removed in the first place, but he took the trouble to sort it personally - in other words, he went the extra mile. A diamond geezer!

Shurm 11-10-2009 21:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752687)
the evidence would certainly point to us being safe.

Dave O'Neil is not interested in our (ASSF) money

The board see no reason to deal with us.

There is no sign of panic at the top

Events are planned for November rather than October

Katie, Willie Miller and Shurm have all spoke directly to The Don and have been somewhat placated.

Do I need to carry on running around trying to fundraise? probably yes, as it means that either the directors will have to put in less money or we will have to borrow less money. I'm not happy about it for what has gone on and what will go on, but we live to fight another day and that is what is important.

still worried for the future though.

He just told me he'd put all the money raised on the lotto and come up a winner :D I'm just worried because he still hasn't announced it to everyone. :eek:

Willie Miller 11-10-2009 21:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 752690)
I would certainly agree with you there, Mr Morton. I wouldn't know where to start in assessing his management or accountancy skills, as I'm just a simple soul who stands on the Clayton End and I know nothing of such things. However, you're spot on when you say he's a "truly decent man". This was brought home to me a few years ago when I paid to have a memorial plaque for my old fella fixed to one of the seats in the Main Stand. A year or so down the line I went to look for it and discovered that it had mysteriously vanished. I emailed Rob more in hope than expectation - he immediately embarked on a search on the stadium, located it somewhere or other, had it refixed, took a photo and emailed it to me, all in the space of two days. Obviously it shouldn't have been removed in the first place, but he took the trouble to sort it personally - in other words, he went the extra mile. A diamond geezer!
I agree too....

he has grown with the club, from his time as a terrace legend, to his days looking after accystan.co.uk to his admin duties & then chief exec....

He would be on the terrace with us if he wasn't employed. I will be sad if he isn't with Stanley 2010

Redraine 11-10-2009 21:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752687)
the evidence would certainly point to us being safe.

Dave O'Neil is not interested in our (ASSF) money

The board see no reason to deal with us.

There is no sign of panic at the top

Events are planned for November rather than October

Katie, Willie Miller and Shurm have all spoke directly to The Don and have been somewhat placated.

Do I need to carry on running around trying to fundraise? probably yes, as it means that either the directors will have to put in less money or we will have to borrow less money. I'm not happy about it for what has gone on and what will go on, but we live to fight another day and that is what is important.

still worried for the future though.
Well if that is all you have it points to either,
1) The club have an arrangement to pay off only part of the tax bill (unlikely) or,
2) They are going to take us into administration.

OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE MISSING K200+ IS COMING FROM - SOORY TO SHOUT.

maccawozzagod 11-10-2009 21:21
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sounds like a plan to me Shurm.

personally I'd stick it all on Rochdale to beat us and score 4 goals in doing so!

hang on a minute, we tried that one ..

Shurm 11-10-2009 21:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752694)
sounds like a plan to me Shurm.

personally I'd stick it all on Rochdale to beat us and score 4 goals in doing so!

hang on a minute, we tried that one ..
Yeah be a good idea s**t or bust :rolleyes:

This forum will be boring come Nov whatever happens :D

maccawozzagod 11-10-2009 21:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 752693)
Well if that is all you have it points to either,
1) The club have an arrangement to pay off only part of the tax bill (unlikely) or,
2) They are going to take us into administration.

OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE MISSING K200+ IS COMING FROM - SOORY TO SHOUT.
no i dont know Mick. My original post was a little tongue in cheek BUT I can only deduce from the apparent lack of action all through this campaign that someone was always going to borrow what was needed after they had stuck in what they can. And that was always the plan no matter how much or how little was raised by shaking buckets.

June 5th we were told at the Stanhill meeting that David had approached a specialist football lending company based in Birmingham and was going to borrow against future earnings with the annual Football League payments as collateral. This was believed to form the cornerstone of his bid to buy Eric out.

Now it would appear to be our way out of the tax mess.


I could be entirely wrong.

Redraine 11-10-2009 21:33
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Cheers - I didn't know that, although it sounds horribly dicey.

VALAIRIAN 11-10-2009 21:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 752693)
Well if that is all you have it points to either,
1) The club have an arrangement to pay off only part of the tax bill (unlikely) or,
2) They are going to take us into administration.

OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE MISSING K200+ IS COMING FROM - SOORY TO SHOUT.
Admin, is not an option Redraine,as already under winding up order...

Redraine 11-10-2009 21:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 752706)
Admin, is not an option Redraine,as already under winding up order...
Yeah, I suspected that. The prospect of digging ourselves even further into the mire with debt doesn't exactly encourage me to risk knackering my creaking hips on the Rochdale walk, though! :(

simon 11-10-2009 22:13
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[/quote]

Like Turkeys voting for Xmas[/quote]

Now that is good :):):):):)

I too believe 100% in Rob Heys, 100% Stanley fan that needs to be at ASFC for as long as he wants.....:mosher:

yonmon 12-10-2009 06:56
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Being still uncertain as to whether or not our Co-Chairperson has really kept his pledge after all !!...(Not having seen a defining statement yet which will fill not only myself, but Stanley Fans everywhere with joy and jubilation !)...

Perhaps I too Shurm am possibly missing something somewhere ?...if that's the case !
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57...ID10TError.png



Just a word or two from HIM...(I now believe that he's not really a Villein ! (Not a spelling error !!)..would convince me that this rather self-deprecating bit of tomfoolery isn't so!!..because he did say ..."I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again."...



'ON STANLEY...ON...TO BETTER THINGS !!'
'

ukcowboy 12-10-2009 08:27
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[I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again."...



I have to say Yonmon, I most certainly am not ASSURED by MrO'Neils statement..............and from the lack of info coming from Fortress Crown, I dont think He is either!:eek::mad::eek:

Fatso 12-10-2009 09:43
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It strikes me that if The DON has got it all sewn up, and come October 28th the taxman will definitely be paid that any delay in the announcement is to ensure that momentum for the SOS appeal is not lost. If he were to announce today that the club will definitely now meet the bill, it would kill the fundraising as, amongst many, there would then be the attitude "well, they've got enough money now; why should I give any more?"

Thus, the later such an announcement is made, the more the SOS campaign can raise...

yonmon 12-10-2009 10:05
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http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ts/641ulgh.jpg


Then SAY IT DAVE !!!....SAY IT!!!........


'ON STANLEY !!!....ON !!....TO GREATER THINGS !!!!'

maccawozzagod 12-10-2009 12:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatso (Post 752779)
Thus, the later such an announcement is made, the more the SOS campaign can raise...
thus making the shortfall he needs to make up to save 'his' business a smaller one?

this will lose us a lot of friends and is what people (the public) have been afraid of since day one.

Tin Monkey 12-10-2009 12:50
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I quite agree with this. The directors and chair-people (if that's what they are) should have stumped up their share from day one and led from the front. All this hanging around to see how much all the other people can raise is totally wrong and really puts us in a bad light.

Doug 12-10-2009 13:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 752834)
I quite agree with this. The directors and chair-people (if that's what they are) should have stumped up their share from day one and led from the front. All this hanging around to see how much all the other people can raise is totally wrong and really puts us in a bad light.
I think the original aim was clearly a public appeal to save the club; then and only if that appeal fell short would the club itself input; this would be in the from of making up the difference prior to payment, not necessarily contribution/donation to the SOS appeal. This could well be the reason you don’t see donations in to the SOS Fund directly across the board from Directors/Chairs has they will have anticipated having to top up the fund before the final outcome was resolved.

Revived Red 12-10-2009 13:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug (Post 752839)
I think the original aim was clearly a public appeal to save the club; then and only if that appeal fell short would the club itself input; this would be in the from of making up the difference prior to payment, not necessarily contribution/donation to the SOS appeal. This could well be the reason you don’t see donations in to the SOS Fund directly across the board from Directors/Chairs has they will have anticipated having to top up the fund before the final outcome was resolved.
Look at macca's post at 13.26. The public appeal was NEVER going to raise over £300,000 in 8 weeks. But what a morale booster it would have been if the powers-that-be could have been seen to be a driving force behind the appeal from the very start, and got the whole thing underway with a substantial initial contribution. You only have to look at so many posts as the weeks have gone by to see the increasing cynicism. In fact, by not even providing regular updates, the club is giving the appearance of hardly bothering at all. The DON could well have been saying "Please can you all help to save my business", thus relying on the emotional commitment to the club that so many of us have, but even that lacked any sort of conviction or commitment to a cause. All that we've had, in effect, is "Don't worry; we'll be ok."

As macca said, the policy is losing us a lot of friends and will continue to do so.

Doug 12-10-2009 13:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by exiledinwales (Post 752844)
No donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASFC, no donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASSF. Seems to me only people donating are fans and ordinary people. Nobody from club donating and nobody from ASSF donating

Look closely and you will see one or two have donated; at the end of the day if a Director sticks a tenner in he's going to get slated; in a fortnights time when they put up the short fall which is currently £200k their not going to get much better.......

Revived Red 12-10-2009 13:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by exiledinwales (Post 752844)
No donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASFC, no donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASSF. Seems to me only people donating are fans and ordinary people. Nobody from club donating and nobody from ASSF donating
Sorry, mate, but you are on the wrong path altogether with your words about the ASSF. Not only are they donating (perhaps not mentioned by name on the roll of honour) but they have arranged and are continuing to arrange the vast majority of fundraising events.

Doug 12-10-2009 13:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 752846)
Look at macca's post at 13.26. The public appeal was NEVER going to raise over £300,000 in 8 weeks. But what a morale booster it would have been if the powers-that-be could have been seen to be a driving force behind the appeal from the very start, and got the whole thing underway with a substantial initial contribution. You only have to look at so many posts as the weeks have gone by to see the increasing cynicism. In fact, by not even providing regular updates, the club is giving the appearance of hardly bothering at all. The DON could well have been saying "Please can you all help to save my business", thus relying on the emotional commitment to the club that so many of us have, but even that lacked any sort of conviction or commitment to a cause. All that we've had, in effect, is "Don't worry; we'll be ok."

As macca said, the policy is losing us a lot of friends and will continue to do so.
I don’t wholly disagree; the way I’ve always looked at it is that they (the Club) where always going to make up the difference anyway due to the fact that they where never going to get the full amount via the public, that is without a major contributor/sponsor stepping up to the plate. In any respect their lack of contribution as not influenced my giving in any shape or form and I think for the majority of contributors the outcome will be the same; mainly because the bulk of donations have come from people who don’t read/partake in accyweb or are embroiled in the politicking that’s gone on since this particular bit of pup hit the fan.

Redskin 12-10-2009 13:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 752851)
Sorry, mate, but you are on the wrong path altogether with your words about the ASSF. Not only are they donating (perhaps not mentioned by name on the roll of honour) but they have arranged and are continuing to arrange the vast majority of fundraising events.

I don't believe that for one minute!...............

Revived Red 12-10-2009 14:27
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Have a look through the pages on this forum for the various fundraising ideas that have already been undertaken.

As for individuals, I have no idea how much they have given. But be aware of the limitations of the so-called "roll of honour". Remember all the ways that money has been raised. ASSF committee members will have contributed in many different ways, possibly in time or in money, that do not necessarily appear on the SOS website.

And this will apply to club officials, too, by the way.

Bagpuss 12-10-2009 14:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 752834)
The directors and chair-people (if that's what they are) should have stumped up their share from day one and led from the front. All this hanging around to see how much all the other people can raise is totally wrong and really puts us in a bad light.
They never intended to stump up anything, to me it's now looking like lets see what the fans can raise then we will borrow the rest and not have to use any of our own cash.

Remember two of those b*stards " who have the future of the club within their control have stated that they would rather the club go under than ....":mad::mad::mad:

Revived Red 12-10-2009 15:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by exiledinwales (Post 752875)
I have looked and I cant find any fundraising events organised by ASSF. Please will you tell me some that have been done
Look harder. You can start with wristbands.

What point are you trying to make? Look at the thread "Members ASSF Ltd" if you want to know more about them.

Are you Redskin in disguise??

katei77 12-10-2009 15:14
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Just because an event does not have ASSF stamped all over it,it does not mean that members of the ASSF have not given time or money to the SOS Appeal,many will have rearranged their own daily lives to give a hand to the SOS appeal bucket collections selling sos t shirts,waistbands to name but a few of the things,not to forget high lighting the SOS appeal.

I am not a member of the ASSF but no matter what our own views are about the appeal,i would be very carefull when questioning what groups have done what to aid the appeal,this is not about oh i did this or i did that for the appeal its about fans doing what they can for the appeal,group membership aside!

JEFF 12-10-2009 15:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 752881)
Look harder. You can start with wristbands.

What point are you trying to make? Look at the thread "Members ASSF Ltd" if you want to know more about them.

Are you Redskin in disguise??
I think that you are getting ASSF and OSC mixed up. It's the Supporters Club (OSC) that paid for the wristbands and all monies raised from sales are being donated to SOS.

katei77 12-10-2009 15:38
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ASFC Directors did get the club into this mess,i do not believe for 1 min they could for see it coming to this (not that they didnt know they had this to pay just how badly things have be handled)but they run the club so the buck stops with them.

The ASSF or OSC do not run the club but try to put each groups points to the board re the club,they do not have a huge say,if any in how the club is run.(this may change with the new shares from khan)

But both groups have helped with the SOS appeal along with other fans

End of the day does it really matter who did the most ,gave the most time ,gave the most money?

What does matter that the fans united and showed all that ASFC has a loyal fan base

maccawozzagod 12-10-2009 15:39
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I was going to put another long winded one in to answer exile in wales, but I can't really be bothered.

Turns up all of a sudden questioning what individual people have done or not done. I personally put money in via every means possible. Every bucket collection, every sale item, standing on stalls if necessary, manning wristband sales pitches, hours and hours of trying to arrange, cajole, organise etc. But then again I aint a director of ASSF, just an ordinary fan. Who happens to be involved with a group that have been trying to protect the future of the club that this idiot is claiming to be part of.

katei77 12-10-2009 15:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752890)
I was going to put another long winded one in to answer exile in wales but I can't really be bothered.

Turns up all of a sudden questioning what individual people have done or not done. I personally put money in via every means possible. Every bucket collection, every sale item, standing on stalls if necessary, manning wristband sales pitches, hours and hours of trying to arrange, cajole, organise etc. But then again I aint a director of ASSF, just an ordinary fan. Who happens to be involved with a group that have been trying to protect the future of the club that this idiot is claiming to be part of.

No one can question the time effort or money you have put in for the appeal

lancsdave 12-10-2009 15:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 752890)
I was going to put another long winded one in to answer exile in wales but I can't really be bothered.

Turns up all of a sudden questioning what individual people have done or not done. I personally put money in via every means possible. Every bucket collection, every sale item, standing on stalls if necessary, manning wristband sales pitches, hours and hours of trying to arrange, cajole, organise etc. But then again I aint a director of ASSF, just an ordinary fan. Who happens to be involved with a group that have been trying to protect the future of the club that this idiot is claiming to be part of.

Bit more effort wouldn't go amiss. You've had weeks to get to the bank and remortgage your house :rolleyes:

katei77 12-10-2009 15:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 752893)
Bit more effort wouldn't go amiss. You've had weeks to get to the bank and remortgage your house :rolleyes:
lol if someone wishes to give me a house ill gladly re-mortgage it :D

shillelagh 12-10-2009 16:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by exiledinwales (Post 752844)
No donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASFC, no donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASSF. Seems to me only people donating are fans and ordinary people. Nobody from club donating and nobody from ASSF donating
This is from the save our stanley website ...

Unfortunately the roll of honour can only list the names of those who donate by paypal and email.



So if you dont have a paypal account or send it by email .. then your name wont be on the list just like mine wont be ... seeing as i dont have a paypal account ..

MCR ADIM 12-10-2009 16:52
Re: Today's Programme
 
Moving away from the topic

Happy 47th birthday Jonny Coleman!!!!!!

Doug 12-10-2009 17:05
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 752911)
Moving away from the topic

Happy 47th birthday Jonny Coleman!!!!!!
47 my arse...he's got to be older than me and only half as good looking.....:)

All the Best John; Have a good one....:)

Tin Monkey 12-10-2009 20:16
Re: Today's Programme
 
Rob Hays was on Radio Lancashire earlier and said they were set to make a big announcement in the next couple of days.

Bagpuss 12-10-2009 20:54
Re: Today's Programme
 
I love how many spellings there are on the forum for the CE, Heys, Hays, Heyes, Hayes and my personal favourite "knob", only joking:D

Willie Miller 12-10-2009 20:58
Re: Today's Programme
 
Mine's Gonzo or Big Nose (not joking!) ;)

Doug 12-10-2009 22:11
Re: Today's Programme
 
I quite like the guy........:)

Nickelson 12-10-2009 22:15
Re: Today's Programme
 
I like his registration plate ... :)

Doug 12-10-2009 22:26
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickelson (Post 752999)
I like his registration plate ... :)
Enlighten please...:)

mab 12-10-2009 22:48
Re: Today's Programme
 
:confused: Am i the only one or am i going gaga!! but has one or two posts been deleted:eek::)

Doug 12-10-2009 22:50
Re: Today's Programme
 
maybe, maybe your just gaga.....:D but I wouldn't bet on it yet.:)

mab 12-10-2009 22:55
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753014)
maybe, maybe your just gaga.....:D but I wouldn't bet on it yet.:)
:Dwas it not one of Bagpusses posts;):D

Doug 12-10-2009 23:04
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 753016)
:Dwas it not one of Bagpusses posts;):D
If it was baggies; more than likely….the one where he went….:mad::mad::mad:

mab 12-10-2009 23:17
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753020)
If it was baggies; more than likely….the one where he went….:mad::mad::mad:
:D off on one:rolleyes:;):D Imsure that exiledinwales chap is a Hereford fan:D

Bagpuss 12-10-2009 23:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753020)
If it was baggies; more than likely….the one where he went….:mad::mad::mad:
Nope that one is still there.:)

Bagpuss 12-10-2009 23:25
Re: Today's Programme
 
My post has gone and Maccas has been edited I don't think any rules where broken except thread wandering but it shut the sheepman up if nothing else.

maccawozzagod 13-10-2009 00:11
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 753027)
My post has gone and Maccas has been edited I don't think any rules where broken except thread wandering but it shut the sheepman up if nothing else.

rules were broken Bagpuss. WE posted a name and that isn't right. I put a request in pretty much straight away that the name be edited, and it was. My post was fair enuff (ish) but the name was removed as requested. your post was only relating to the name really so was removed entirely - as was another (I think) that had nothing to offer other than relating to the name.

We all have the right to anonimity as you yourself have utilised over the years Kevin :D

Nickelson 13-10-2009 19:48
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753002)
Enlighten please...:)
His Reg. Plate is - ASFC X or something v.similar

sparkie 13-10-2009 20:23
Re: Today's Programme
 
yep robs reg plate is A5 FCX. I think that means hes a fan!!!!

Outback Ozzy 13-10-2009 20:46
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkie (Post 753238)
yep robs reg plate is A5 FCX. I think that means hes a fan!!!!
The reg might mean he's a fan but the car is sh1te

Doug 13-10-2009 20:50
Re: Today's Programme
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 753244)
The reg might mean he's a fan but the car is sh1te
lol, whats he got?

sparkie 13-10-2009 21:04
Re: Today's Programme
 
he used to have a toyota celica, not sure what he's got now, might be a bm


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