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Stanleymad 14-10-2009 19:26

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A tenner is more easily obtainable even £50 is but at 280 odd incl vat is too rich for mine and many's blood equates to more than 2 weeks wages for me! I wish as does many that the money was disposable, but big fry for the ordinary fan.

VALAIRIAN 14-10-2009 19:42

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 753557)
Everyone will have their opinion on this.....

For me, fans were desperate for a share issue when they were spending Illyas Khans money. Now it is thier money on the line, fans are negative... Bizarre!

Some will take it up, some won't!
If I was a "won't" I still wouldn't post anything negative for fear of changing someones mind who will commit £250 to the cause

Rob & David have taken some flak but have come up with step 1 in a legitimate plan for the future. ASFC must be self sufficient whether a benefator is out there or not. After all, Jack Walker passed away at Ewood & the spending slowed down.

The value for money issue is irrelevant. Nobody should be buying a share as a business deal. Its to save the club. Its to own a piece of ASFC however small. Its something to tell people over dinner parties. I am an ASFC shareholder! Briliant. It will be a weeks wage but I am in.... The value of Stanley, to me, is priceless & so I will get my 0.001% of priceless.

On Stanley On!

As ever great post WM :)

Tin Monkey 14-10-2009 19:42

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I can't afford a Porche, but I don't want to stop them making cars. ;)

lancsdave 14-10-2009 19:54

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Out of curiosity what do those who hold season tickets think. Those who don't have them are probably looking at the package as a good buy if they can use the ten tickets. Should they have done something different for ST holders ?

simon 14-10-2009 19:54

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 753581)
I can't afford a Porche, but I don't want to stop them making cars. ;)

Same here, but I do want them to reduce the price...:)

shakermaker 14-10-2009 19:55

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Value for money doesn't matter a jot. I just see this scheme as half arsed.

A massive issue of brand new shares would've cleared all of the club's debts and recapitalised the club. That's properly saving the club; properly preparing it for the future. How can fans forgive David O'Neill for passing that up?

But I'm sure the new shirt will be splendid and the frame for the stifficate will be lovely. I'll probably get one. That's what happens when your heartstrings are being tugged and shiny stuff with all kinds of emblems are waved in your face.

lancsdave 14-10-2009 19:57

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 753585)
That's what happens when your heartstrings are being tugged and shiny stuff with all kinds of emblems are waved in your face.


And thats why football is like no other business, it's difficult as a customer to take your business elsewhere :(

Willie Miller 14-10-2009 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 753578)
A tenner is more easily obtainable even £50 is but at 280 odd incl vat is too rich for mine and many's blood equates to more than 2 weeks wages for me! I wish as does many that the money was disposable, but big fry for the ordinary fan.

Easy, have a share of a share..... 10 of ya, £25 each, do a draw for the shirt, get 10 photocopies & 10 £2 frames....

There ya go, a share of a share & you can still say "I am a shareholder & I did my bit!"

Bagpuss 14-10-2009 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 753585)
Value for money doesn't matter a jot. I just see this scheme as half arsed.

A massive issue of brand new shares would've cleared all of the club's debts and recapitalised the club. That's properly saving the club; properly preparing it for the future. How can fans forgive David O'Neill for passing that up?

But that's what Stanley directors are good at being half arsed except when it comes to scaring away investors because they are world beaters at that:(

Willie Miller 14-10-2009 20:07

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 753581)
I can't afford a Porche, but I don't want to stop them making cars. ;)

;) i love you

Revived Red 14-10-2009 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 753583)
Out of curiosity what do those who hold season tickets think. Those who don't have them are probably looking at the package as a good buy if they can use the ten tickets. Should they have done something different for ST holders ?

That's an important point, Dave. I've already expressed my thoughts as below.

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 753444)
I'm afraid I'm still undecided. I would have liked the official announcement to be much clearer. For example, I would like to know how long the flexi tickets are valid for. If it's only for the current season, they are of little value to season ticket holders except possibly as gifts.

A season ticket, two shirt sponsorships, donations to SOS - and now this. As a "deal", it's not worth it in my opinion. As a meaningful share in the club, it's a non-event. As a donation, it's a heck of a lot of money.

katei77 14-10-2009 20:11

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oh i think Hannah has cracked it,she asking grandad to get her a share,shes not daft that one!

Nickelson 14-10-2009 20:14

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 753589)
Easy, have a share of a share..... 10 of ya, £25 each, do a draw for the shirt, get 10 photocopies & 10 £2 frames....

There ya go, a share of a share & you can still say "I am a shareholder & I did my bit!"


Accrington Web version of this please :)

Doug 14-10-2009 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 753586)
And thats why football is like no other business, it's difficult as a customer to take your business elsewhere :(

No its not......Come over to the REDs my Son, see the quality......:D


You will feel better buying the old woman a share if you did.......:D:D:D

VALAIRIAN 14-10-2009 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 753589)
Easy, have a share of a share..... 10 of ya, £25 each, do a draw for the shirt, get 10 photocopies & 10 £2 frames....

There ya go, a share of a share & you can still say "I am a shareholder & I did my bit!"

So this was your idea all along was it and you sold it to The DON :D ;)

lancsdave 14-10-2009 20:54

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 753589)
do a draw for the shirt,

Could put the shirt in a frame and hang it on the wall for 36.5 days a year each :)

lancsdave 14-10-2009 20:54

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753602)
No its not......Come over to the REDs my Son, see the quality......:D

Couldn't afford to :p

Stanleymad 14-10-2009 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 753589)
Easy, have a share of a share..... 10 of ya, £25 each, do a draw for the shirt, get 10 photocopies & 10 £2 frames....

There ya go, a share of a share & you can still say "I am a shareholder & I did my bit!"

Lol i do like someone who thinks outside of the box :) now there's a thought, u should be the don's Google Page Ranking man :D

Redskin 14-10-2009 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 753557)
Everyone will have their opinion on this.....

For me, fans were desperate for a share issue when they were spending Illyas Khans money. Now it is thier money on the line, fans are negative... Bizarre!

Some will take it up, some won't!
If I was a "won't" I still wouldn't post anything negative for fear of changing someones mind who will commit £250 to the cause

Rob & David have taken some flak but have come up with step 1 in a legitimate plan for the future. ASFC must be self sufficient whether a benefator is out there or not. After all, Jack Walker passed away at Ewood & the spending slowed down.

The value for money issue is irrelevant. Nobody should be buying a share as a business deal. Its to save the club. Its to own a piece of ASFC however small. Its something to tell people over dinner parties. I am an ASFC shareholder! Briliant. It will be a weeks wage but I am in.... The value of Stanley, to me, is priceless & so I will get my 0.001% of priceless.

On Stanley On!

My Sentiments Exactly!!!!!!!!!!...Spot On!!;)

Wynonie Harris 14-10-2009 21:37

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753441)
She won't; most likely tell you that you should know better, thing's are hard enough without wasting money on that :eek:….that's what I got. :o Now I’m lying like buggery. :rolleyes:


Going to do it anyway........ :D

Actually proved a lot easier than I thought, Doug. Arguments deployed included:

1. "Think of it as an early Christmas present."

2. "It's a one-off...I'll never ever do it again."

3. "You spent over two hundred quid on clothes last month." (The latter did not prove a particularly promising approach and I quickly abandoned it.)

4. "If I don't and they go to the wall, you'll have to put up with me whinging on Saturday afternoons." (Many thanks to Baggy for that particular stroke of inspiration).

Result!...and, yes, I know, my share won't be worth much and I won't have any voting rights and, as a season ticket holder, my flexi-tickets will be sod all use...but, symbolically, at least, I'll have a little piece of Stanley! :) :cool:

DAV007 14-10-2009 21:51

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I was interested in buying real shares but not these mickey mouse ones.

Gayle 14-10-2009 21:53

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Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 753527)
It wouldn't matter as it is for season 09/10 only apparently

So the argument that some people have made about the season ticket holders buying a share instead of a season ticket is irrelevant. As the ones who would buy a season ticket have bought them already. So, the only way the club would lose out would be on occassional ticket buyers, in which case the share option is an advance on the ticket sales.

Bradshaw Boy 14-10-2009 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753618)
I was interested in buying real shares but not these mickey mouse ones.

once the club has been save you might get a chance - you never know

Bradshaw Boy 14-10-2009 22:02

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Got this response to my email:

Hi Dave

Thank you for the quick response.

That is great news that you are interested.

I am currently collecting the contact details of the individuals and businesses that are interested as the club is still arranging the most practical payment methods for this campaign.

If you could please provide me with your full name and address, and when the payment methods have been sorted I will contact you with all the details about the packages on offer.

Kindest Regards



Martin Edmundson

Commercial Sales and Marketing Executive

Accrington Stanley Football Club

Doug 14-10-2009 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 753615)
Result!...and, yes, I know, my share won't be worth much and I won't have any voting rights and, as a season ticket holder, my flexi-tickets will be sod all use...but, symbolically, at least, I'll have a little piece of Stanley! :) :cool:

She was having a bad afternoon in the office and had a paddy. Later on she said she was sorry, so I told her that I had gone and ordered shares this afternoon out of spite because she was being an arse…..:D she felt guilty :o and I’m in the clear :). I’ll be ordering mine in the morning if someone at the club picks up the bloody phone.:rolleyes:

Doug 14-10-2009 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradshaw Boy (Post 753624)
Got this response to my email:

Hi Dave

Thank you for the quick response.

That is great news that you are interested.

I am currently collecting the contact details of the individuals and businesses that are interested as the club is still arranging the most practical payment methods for this campaign.

If you could please provide me with your full name and address, and when the payment methods have been sorted I will contact you with all the details about the packages on offer.

Kindest Regards



Martin Edmundson

Commercial Sales and Marketing Executive

Accrington Stanley Football Club


I will ring and if no luck I will e-mail Mr. Edmundson. :)

Shurm 14-10-2009 22:34

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At least he got a reply another admin balls up might just keep my money, people act on impulse with these things it annoys me I've got to pester them to give them money !!!! :rolleyes:

maccawozzagod 14-10-2009 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 753615)
Result!...and, yes, I know, my share won't be worth much and I won't have any voting rights and, as a season ticket holder, my flexi-tickets will be sod all use...but, symbolically, at least, I'll have a little piece of Stanley! :) :cool:

quick idea, but if anyone who is unable to use their flexi tickets for whatever reason wants to send them to the OSC I'll try to work on a way of distributing them around some supportive local businesses. Maybe a little way of giving them something back?

Revived Red 14-10-2009 23:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 753621)
So the argument that some people have made about the season ticket holders buying a share instead of a season ticket is irrelevant. As the ones who would buy a season ticket have bought them already.

Yes, it is irrelevant now. But when the point was made, I for one did not know the validity of the flexi ticket. Had it been valid for next season, I would have been tempted to buy a share instead of a season ticket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 753621)
So, the only way the club would lose out would be on occassional ticket buyers, in which case the share option is an advance on the ticket sales.

Not really. The club would lose out because some of us cannot afford a season ticket AND a share. So it misses out on the share.

DevonStanley 14-10-2009 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753618)
I was interested in buying real shares but not these mickey mouse ones.

This so-called share issue is completely bonkers. A share of what? It appears to me that what the club is doing is selling a piece of paper, 10 tickets and a shirt for £250. All this to bail out the current incumbents? It appears to me they are trying to save their own necks, not the club.

As soon as supporters can get together and form a supporters trust with the aim of taking proper control of the club from those who are running it now the better.

That might happen if the club were to go into administration. It won't happen if those running the club now are bailed out be well-meaning supporters.

You who live in the Accrington area should contact Supporters Direct and get some proper advice. Supporters Direct is recognised by the Government and the FA... it's not a mickey mouse organisation. Also, you might like to contact David (?) Conn at The Independent, he's long been running articles about struggling football clubs and how their supporters are frequently hoodwinked by the clubs' directors. David Conn, I believe, lives in the Manchester area and if you are serious would quite likely come to talk to you - as would Supporters Direct.

Go for it if you want the club to survive. It's not too late, believe me. Exeter City was saved very much at the brink by its Supporters' Trust and received a lot of goodwill and help to achieve that.

DAV007 14-10-2009 23:35

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DevonStanley

I agree mate.

Nothing more than spin from Oneill and co.

We have been lied to, decieved and spun lots of open ended language - and at the end of it all, the last action of a doomed ownership is to go into more debt.

These people have failed; but so have we as fans if we do not use this opportunity to change the clubs ownership and direction.

Neil 15-10-2009 06:31

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 753621)
So the argument that some people have made about the season ticket holders buying a share instead of a season ticket is irrelevant. As the ones who would buy a season ticket have bought them already. So, the only way the club would lose out would be on occassional ticket buyers, in which case the share option is an advance on the ticket sales.

Not quite true. I would expect most season ticket holders would give the 10 tickets away to friends and family so they did not feel they had wasted them.

Neil 15-10-2009 06:38

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This quote from Martin Edmundson is ridiculous

Quote:

I am currently collecting the contact details of the individuals and businesses that are interested as the club is still arranging the most practical payment methods for this campaign.

If you could please provide me with your full name and address, and when the payment methods have been sorted I will contact you with all the details about the packages on offer.
So the share offer has been arranged and the Commercial Sales and Marketing Executive does not even know how to sell the damn things to the people who want them. He is not fit to hold his job.

They should have expected many emails and phone calls from people wanting info and to buy them. They should have been prepared but he has not even decided how to take the money of people.

The club would do better run by school children. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

maccawozzagod 15-10-2009 08:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonStanley (Post 753642)
As soon as supporters can get together and form a supporters trust with the aim of taking proper control of the club from those who are running it now the better. You who live in the Accrington area should contact Supporters Direct and get some proper advice. Supporters Direct is recognised by the Government and the FA... it's not a mickey mouse organisation.


we're on it ;)

Outback Ozzy 15-10-2009 08:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonStanley (Post 753642)
This so-called share issue is completely bonkers. A share of what? It appears to me that what the club is doing is selling a piece of paper, 10 tickets and a shirt for £250. All this to bail out the current incumbents? It appears to me they are trying to save their own necks, not the club.

Believe me when I say I thought exactly the same ie 1000 shares at £250 + what is in the SOS fund = Dave O'Niell and fellow directors getting away scot free. Not so n'est pas, according to our CEO - the money for the taxman has already been collected ie SOS fund + £100k from directors + £50k loan from a local businessman and this will be paid shortly, in fact we await the declaration on the Official website that it has been paid and indeed Accrington Stanley live to fight another season. The share issue as I see it is to consolidate that position for the remainder of the season and the future. We live in hope!:rolleyes:

Whalley Red 15-10-2009 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonStanley (Post 753642)
Also, you might like to contact David (?) Conn at The Independent, he's long been running articles about struggling football clubs and how their supporters are frequently hoodwinked by the clubs' directors. David Conn, I believe, lives in the Manchester area and if you are serious would quite likely come to talk to you - as would Supporters Direct.


He also wrote a book called 'The Football Business' which is well worth a read. It may be a little dated as it was published over a decade ago, but the theme of how the 'suits' (ab)use the loyalty of the fans seems just as relevant today as it did in the '90s. :(

JEFF 15-10-2009 09:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 753557)
Everyone will have their opinion on this.....

For me, fans were desperate for a share issue when they were spending Illyas Khans money. Now it is thier money on the line, fans are negative... Bizarre!

Some will take it up, some won't!
If I was a "won't" I still wouldn't post anything negative for fear of changing someones mind who will commit £250 to the cause

Rob & David have taken some flak but have come up with step 1 in a legitimate plan for the future. ASFC must be self sufficient whether a benefator is out there or not. After all, Jack Walker passed away at Ewood & the spending slowed down.

The value for money issue is irrelevant. Nobody should be buying a share as a business deal. Its to save the club. Its to own a piece of ASFC however small. Its something to tell people over dinner parties. I am an ASFC shareholder! Briliant. It will be a weeks wage but I am in.... The value of Stanley, to me, is priceless & so I will get my 0.001% of priceless.

On Stanley On!

Spot on Willie

JEFF 15-10-2009 09:41

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The way some people are slagging him off you would think that David O'Neill had been in charge at Stanley for years. For God's sake he has only just taken over. He took over a Club in a mess, a mess that has been caused by ERIC WHALLEY. Why is ERIC WHALLEY getting away with it and all the flack is being aimed at David O'Neill. EW jumped ship and left this mess for DON to sort out. DON said that Stanley would not go under and he has come up with a scheme to keep them going. Please do not belittle this scheme. If you agree with the scheme then support it, if you don't agree with it please do not put other people off. If you want to take your wrath out on anybody take it out on the person who put us into this mess with his mis-management - ERIC WHALLEY

Redskin 15-10-2009 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 753698)
The way some people are slagging him off you would think that David O'Neill had been in charge at Stanley for years. For God's sake he has only just taken over. He took over a Club in a mess, a mess that has been caused by ERIC WHALLEY. Why is ERIC WHALLEY getting away with it and all the flack is being aimed at David O'Neill. EW jumped ship and left this mess for DON to sort out. DON said that Stanley would not go under and he has come up with a scheme to keep them going. Please do not belittle this scheme. If you agree with the scheme then support it, if you don't agree with it please do not put other people off. If you want to take your wrath out on anybody take it out on the person who put us into this mess with his mis-management - ERIC WHALLEY

I Totally AGree!!!!.the negative brigade are the same people who failed to secure World domination through the ASSF!.Support the club and stop thinking about personal gains!.If you don't like the idea and concept and your only contribution is to criticise the Directors et al, then perhaps you should "go forth"..............Sour Grapes!!!!!!:p

caretaker 15-10-2009 09:55

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The two previous posts are spot on. Its fine to berate the DON, but lets not slag of Eric Whalley, who in my opinion was largely responsible for this mess

Bagpuss 15-10-2009 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 753705)
The two previous posts are spot on. Its fine to berate the DON, but lets not slag of Eric Whalley, who in my opinion was largely responsible for this mess

Whalley has not been forgotten and neither have those two directors.:mad:
I think the DON has done OK, of course it could have been better but we look like we will live to fight another day so give him another chance.:)

Fourth official 15-10-2009 10:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 753698)
The way some people are slagging him off you would think that David O'Neill had been in charge at Stanley for years. For God's sake he has only just taken over. He took over a Club in a mess, a mess that has been caused by ERIC WHALLEY. Why is ERIC WHALLEY getting away with it and all the flack is being aimed at David O'Neill. EW jumped ship and left this mess for DON to sort out. DON said that Stanley would not go under and he has come up with a scheme to keep them going. Please do not belittle this scheme. If you agree with the scheme then support it, if you don't agree with it please do not put other people off. If you want to take your wrath out on anybody take it out on the person who put us into this mess with his mis-management - ERIC WHALLEY

Me too,well said.Lets get behind the club and move forward.As I have said before,if the DON,hadn't,as he said been in the wrong place at the wrong time,what situation would the club have been in with the HMRC.

Obviously it hasn't affected the Whalley's too much as Eric's wife was still seen having a laugh at the Rovers game!!

Oldgobbin 15-10-2009 10:18

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At last! Could there be a light at the end of the tunnel of negativity?
I totally agree with the last few posts. The new regime will make (and maybe has made) some mistakes, but at least there are now signs of a positive future - or, at the very least, a future.
If you don't want to buy the shares, then fine - but does everybody want to know? I think not! I personally have not yet made up my mind, but I will not use my decision to encourage or discourage others. The decision will be mine alone - and my business!
I do, however, agree with Bagpuss, that the two directors should be named, shamed, and, if at all possible, removed. Those two have no place in the future of Accrington Stanley. However, as for the D'on, Rob, John, Jimmy and the rest, let's get behind them and support them, and the club, to the best of our ability. Just three words to finish.... "On Stanley On!"

maccawozzagod 15-10-2009 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 753703)
I Totally AGree!!!!.the negative brigade are the same people who failed to secure World domination through the ASSF!.Support the club and stop thinking about personal gains!.If you don't like the idea and concept and your only contribution is to criticise the Directors et al, then perhaps you should "go forth"..............Sour Grapes!!!!!!:p

eh?

who wanted world domination? we were quite happy to stop at Accrington!

Redskin 15-10-2009 10:36

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 753716)
eh?

who wanted world domination? we were quite happy to stop at Accrington!

Fork handles!!!!!!!!:tongueout

Wynonie Harris 15-10-2009 11:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 753703)
I Totally AGree!!!!.the negative brigade are the same people who failed to secure World domination through the ASSF!.Support the club and stop thinking about personal gains!.

So you're saying that the members of the ASSF...guys like Macca, Loweiy, Cowboy and Jeff (whose post you're agreeing with!) are in it for "personal gain"? Absolute junk. These people are amongst the most dedicated fans you could find. If you want to show your support for the Don, fine, but don't go slagging off hardworking and longstanding Stanley supporters. :mad:

Redskin 15-10-2009 11:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 753723)
So you're saying that the members of the ASSF...guys like Macca, Loweiy, Cowboy and Jeff (whose post you're agreeing with!) are in it for "personal gain"? Absolute junk. These people are amongst the most dedicated fans you could find. If you want to show your support for the Don, fine, but don't go slagging off hardworking and longstanding Stanley supporters. :mad:


Take it with a pinch of salt, I'm generalising.............;)

stanley convert 15-10-2009 11:15

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Been to the club this morning and given my details to Martin, got very positive vibes there seems to be quite a lot of interest in the scheme should take a couple of weeks to sort out legal stuff etc.

Bagpuss 15-10-2009 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 753726)
Take it with a pinch of salt, I'm generalising.............;)

Well I'm not generalising when I say why do you continue to talk out of your arse???;)

mab 15-10-2009 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 753723)
So you're saying that the members of the ASSF...guys like Macca, Loweiy, Cowboy and Jeff (whose post you're agreeing with!) are in it for "personal gain"? Absolute junk. These people are amongst the most dedicated fans you could find. If you want to show your support for the Don, fine, but don't go slagging off hardworking and longstanding Stanley supporters. :mad:

:) Totaly agree with you WH 100% all theses guys are what the DON would call True fans of Accrington Stanley and would do anything for the club and proberly have:)

lancsdave 15-10-2009 11:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 753703)
I Totally AGree!!!!.the negative brigade are the same people who failed to secure World domination through the ASSF!.Support the club and stop thinking about personal gains!.If you don't like the idea and concept and your only contribution is to criticise the Directors et al, then perhaps you should "go forth"..............Sour Grapes!!!!!!:p


Is it not a discussion forum ?

caretaker 15-10-2009 11:24

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Settle down boys

mab 15-10-2009 11:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 753730)
Well I'm not generalising when I say why do you continue to talk out of your arse???;)

:yelrotflm:rofl38::rofl38::yelrotflm

Redskin 15-10-2009 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 753730)
Well I'm not generalising when I say why do you continue to talk out of your arse???;)


LOL.......people were for a public hanging last week!

IMHO.The ASSF caused more harm to the survival of ASFC than good!

caretaker 15-10-2009 11:28

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One of the problems with recent events, is that Khans intervention,no matter how well ment was bound to be devisive. Are you for him or the Don,human nature I suppose, but the best thing to happen is that Khan is yesterdays man, and The Don has pulled it off(allegedly) Long live the Don

Redskin 15-10-2009 11:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 753740)
One of the problems with recent events, is that Khans intervention,no matter how well ment was bound to be devisive. Are you for him or the Don,human nature I suppose, but the best thing to happen is that Khan is yesterdays man, and The Don has pulled it off(allegedly) Long live the Don


Absolutely true!...........

Willie Miller 15-10-2009 12:20

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Approx 50 proud fans are soon to be mini shareholders (already!)

Good work people

DAV007 15-10-2009 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 753740)
One of the problems with recent events, is that Khans intervention,no matter how well ment was bound to be devisive. Are you for him or the Don,human nature I suppose, but the best thing to happen is that Khan is yesterdays man, and The Don has pulled it off(allegedly) Long live the Don

WOW
another mug sucked in by the spin.
Look at the facts and the action - snd its hard to see anything positive O'neill has done.

JEFF 15-10-2009 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753773)
WOW
another mug sucked in by the spin.
Look at the facts and the action - snd its hard to see anything positive O'neill has done.

If he gets us out of this mess that Whalley has left then that will be positive.

Redskin 15-10-2009 13:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753773)
WOW
another mug sucked in by the spin.
Look at the facts and the action - snd its hard to see anything positive O'neill has done.


I can say categorically!!!!!!!!.if it was not for David O'Neill we WOULD be in the Conference!!!!!!!!........

David O'Neill resolved the seating issue that ensured we remained in the league. EW was prepared to gamble with the future of the Club by challenging the League!!!!!!!!!!!

Fourth official 15-10-2009 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 753786)
I can say categorically!!!!!!!!.if it was not for David O'Neill we WOULD be in the Conference!!!!!!!!........

David O'Neill resolved the seating issue that ensured we remained in the league. EW was prepared to gamble with the future of the Club by challenging the League!!!!!!!!!!!

And the HMRC,but gambling is in,the Whalley family.

Doug 15-10-2009 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753773)
WOW
another mug sucked in by the spin.
Look at the facts and the action - snd its hard to see anything positive O'neill has done.

Well you wont like whats coming next....:D

Sorry Simon; I had too......:)

Doug 15-10-2009 13:49

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It doesn’t matter diddly squat does it. Mr. O’Neil and the current Board own the club and until they are ready to relinquish their hold there’s ****** all any body can do about it; if you don’t agree how the clubs managed or you don’t want to add to the coffers don’t show up at the ground on match day…Sorry if that sound harsh but hey; the dissenters that aren’t going to be lining O’Neil’s pockets nor are the fans…if anyone thinks that the club is making money now to line pockets they need to tell the rest of us how its been done. Just how much have the fans put in to the SOS fund; I would argue that most of that money as come through public participation and other clubs fans passing on their support; we haven’t saved Accrington on our own, O’Neil and Rob Hays have put money in that is probably equal to the fans contribution the rest came from the Public form Liverpool, Blackburn, Burnley and all the other parts of the country who have made as much; if not more effort than a lot of the towns people.

The current incumbents aren’t showing a great deal of acumen when it comes to Public Relations or common business sense; but they have pulled this off and we go on, hopefully up and on to better things.

When you argue that you’re not putting in your hard earned cash; it’s us that suffers along with the admin team and playing staff. Whose wages do you think your moneys going to pay when you pay on the gate; not O’Neil’s or the Boards…..I’d love to know when any Director last took a Dividend, and if they have I bet they’ve put in a hell of a lot more in (collectively) than they have taken out.

Mr. O’Neil and the Board own the Club; it’s us, local Sponsorship and the FA (and other bodies) that keep it going….FACT.

I’m buying a Share; Because I want one and the Club I love benefits; in fact once I’ve paid for mine the business will be buying one; so I will have two Shares; my tickets will be donated to those who perhaps will benefit from them most, the young and disadvantaged of the Township, hopefully this might encourage others to join the cause be they fit & able, disabled, Black, White, Asian or anything else.

Get on and support what’s happening on the pitch, ****** the mandarins if it bothers you that much, a penny in the club, pays for the club, not any Directors beer money.

Doug 15-10-2009 13:58

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Just to add….A very small group of loyal, dedicated supporters spent a lot of effort and personal time to bring in much of that money the fans and Public paid; we should be applauding them and their effort on these pages…….rather than rubbishing the Board. A united club pulled this off, if it wasn’t for their effort we would be crying now for our loss; not moaning and whinging because we survived.

On Stanley On.

Bradshaw Boy 15-10-2009 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753795)
Just to add….A very small group of loyal, dedicated supporters spent a lot of effort and personal time to bring in much of that money the fans and Public paid; we should be applauding them and their effort on these pages…….rather than rubbishing the Board. A united club pulled this off, if it wasn’t for their effort we would be crying now for our loss; not moaning and whinging because we survived.

On Stanley On.

spot on - well said

DAV007 15-10-2009 14:10

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You cant compare David Oneills actions to Eric Whalley dealings

Bin Laden is better at Google Page Ranking than Eric.

O'neill has made the worst possible decision for the club and has not be transarent with the facts, except repeating how he gave £100,000.
The best deal for the club was the ASSF offer, this was not the best deal for David O'neill.
IMO, he has placed his own interest above ASFC.
I dont know how anyone could understand it any other way?

An offer was on the table which would have had accrington stanley with no debt, a broad base of ownership and JC would be abe to bring players in (the ban would have been lifted by now)
Instead, we have MORE debt, same incompetent leadership and no genuine clear ambition/plan to establish Stanley as a football league club.

I hate to say it but the ASSF offer will probably never be matched again.
It was all about the club, all for the club, with only the club at heart.
I hope the ASSF utilise their new share holding to expose the truth, input new fresh ideas and ultimatly raise the profile of the club to ensure investment in the playing squad.
Unless the 11 that cross the line are good enough to stay in league 2, nothing else at the club really matters.

BTW - is it Swindon who are interested in Michael Symes?

Doug 15-10-2009 14:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753799)
You cant compare David Oneills actions to Eric Whalley dealings

Bin Laden is better at Google Page Ranking than Eric.

O'neill has made the worst possible decision for the club and has not be transarent with the facts, except repeating how he gave £100,000.
The best deal for the club was the ASSF offer, this was not the best deal for David O'neill.
IMO, he has placed his own interest above ASFC.
I dont know how anyone could understand it any other way?

An offer was on the table which would have had accrington stanley with no debt, a broad base of ownership and JC would be abe to bring players in (the ban would have been lifted by now)
Instead, we have MORE debt, same incompetent leadership and no genuine clear ambition/plan to establish Stanley as a football league club.

I hate to say it but the ASSF offer will probably never be matched again.
It was all about the club, all for the club, with only the club at heart.
I hope the ASSF utilise their new share holding to expose the truth, input new fresh ideas and ultimatly raise the profile of the club to ensure investment in the playing squad.
Unless the 11 that cross the line are good enough to stay in league 2, nothing else at the club really matters.

BTW - is it Swindon who are interested in Michael Symes?


The Khan/ASSF offer could have stayed on the Table; because the Board wouldn’t Jump when Mr. Khan said Jump he withdrew not only his offer to underwrite any share issue, he also withdrew his offer to match what the Directors were putting in? Had he had not done that we wouldn’t have had to take the loan.

The ASSF is only a few months old; despite their collective experience and absolute dedication they wouldn’t have been able to do any better; and maybe no worse that the current incumbents. If the ASSF (with others) goes and sits down with the club and works together change will come; if hostility develops between the two parties the ASSF and or future groups may find it’s self /themselves isolated.

I hope a Trust does come to the fore in time and the Club goes from strength to strength; but it won’t happen if we continue to bicker and point fingers.

Redskin 15-10-2009 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753799)
You cant compare David Oneills actions to Eric Whalley dealings

Bin Laden is better at Google Page Ranking than Eric.

O'neill has made the worst possible decision for the club and has not be transarent with the facts, except repeating how he gave £100,000.
The best deal for the club was the ASSF offer, this was not the best deal for David O'neill.
IMO, he has placed his own interest above ASFC.
I dont know how anyone could understand it any other way?

An offer was on the table which would have had accrington stanley with no debt, a broad base of ownership and JC would be abe to bring players in (the ban would have been lifted by now)
Instead, we have MORE debt, same incompetent leadership and no genuine clear ambition/plan to establish Stanley as a football league club.

I hate to say it but the ASSF offer will probably never be matched again.
It was all about the club, all for the club, with only the club at heart.
I hope the ASSF utilise their new share holding to expose the truth, input new fresh ideas and ultimatly raise the profile of the club to ensure investment in the playing squad.
Unless the 11 that cross the line are good enough to stay in league 2, nothing else at the club really matters.

BTW - is it Swindon who are interested in Michael Symes?

Ask yourself this!...was the offer valid?.....money in a bank account?....Why did mr Khan run away?......I'll double what the Directors put in he said!!!!!!.........

DAV007 15-10-2009 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 753803)
Ask yourself this!...was the offer valid?.....money in a bank account?....Why did mr Khan run away?......I'll double what the Directors put in he said!!!!!!.........

your all forgetting something.
The current board didnt want his money!
They wanted someone to give them £200,000 in return for a thankyou.


Khan had the cash down, that wasnt the problem. The current board wanted a bail out (sell their shares) or a donation.
Yes, its their shares/their club - but it was NOT in the clubs long term interest.

JEFF 15-10-2009 14:40

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I e-mailed the Club for Share Package details at 12.04pm today and I got a reply at
2.32pm today. Not bad for a change.

Doug 15-10-2009 14:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753807)
your all forgetting something.
The current board didnt want his money!
They wanted someone to give them £200,000 in return for a thankyou.


Khan had the cash down, that wasnt the problem. The current board wanted a bail out (sell their shares) or a donation.
Yes, its their shares/their club - but it was NOT in the clubs long term interest.

What’s in the best interest of the club is that we survived. :)

We can now go forward; form a trust and work with the club and people like Mr. Khan who I would love to come back into the fold and help take the Trust and the Club forward…bitching about the Board and what didn’t or should have happened is point less; unless you are intent on giving yourself an heart attack

DAV007 15-10-2009 14:53

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Doug
it seems astonishing someone people have described O'neill as a knight in shining armour!

We had the chance to do more than just survive, more than re-finance the debt, more than beg of the footballing world for donations.

AccyMad 15-10-2009 14:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 753800)
The Khan/ASSF offer could have stayed on the Table; because the Board wouldn’t Jump when Mr. Khan said Jump he withdrew not only his offer to underwrite any share issue, he also withdrew his offer to match what the Directors were putting in? Had he had not done that we wouldn’t have had to take the loan.

The ASSF is only a few months old; despite their collective experience and absolute dedication they wouldn’t have been able to do any better; and maybe no worse that the current incumbents. If the ASSF (with others) goes and sits down with the club and works together change will come; if hostility develops between the two parties the ASSF and or future groups may find it’s self /themselves isolated.

I hope a Trust does come to the fore in time and the Club goes from strength to strength; but it won’t happen if we continue to bicker and point fingers.

Sorry Doug but Ilyas didn't withdraw his offers because the board wouldn't jump when he asked them to as you put it, he withdrew his offers because of the insults levelled at him by two of our directors, if they hadn't done that the offers would still be on the table. Those two directors should be removed from the board and if they are not I can only assume that the chairman agrees with their comments.

Redraine 15-10-2009 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 753817)
Sorry Doug but Ilyas didn't withdraw his offers because the board wouldn't jump when he asked them to as you put it, he withdrew his offers because of the insults levelled at him by two of our directors, if they hadn't done that the offers would still be on the table. Those two directors should be removed from the board and if they are not I can only assume that the chairman agrees with their comments.

Well said, AccyMad. That's it in a shameful nutshell. A horrible stain on this great club's reputation.

Doug 15-10-2009 16:15

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None of us were at that meeting. We may never know the truth unless a compliant is made to bring the matter into the open. Until then its hearsay.

mab 15-10-2009 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 753817)
Sorry Doug but Ilyas didn't withdraw his offers because the board wouldn't jump when he asked them to as you put it, he withdrew his offers because of the insults levelled at him by two of our directors, if they hadn't done that the offers would still be on the table. Those two directors should be removed from the board and if they are not I can only assume that the chairman agrees with their comments.

and this which was posted on the 10/10/09 ..
Quote:
Originally Posted by JEFF http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
These two Directors are probably friends of EW and are carrying on his gripe. They should be named and shamed so that the fans can let them know what they think of them.
(Quote)
And ferther more if what i was told today and i have NO reason to not believe that its true then may be its time for the FA to investigate this board meeting and find out what was said and let them deal with it:( (Unquote) and i still think they should go both of them sentiment of who they are has gone and what they have done for the club in the past:(

shakermaker 15-10-2009 16:44

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"If he gets us out of this mess..." is a phrase I've read a few times in reference to David O'Neill. Let's just be clear, O'Neill passed up on the only opportunity to ensure that the club (not 'the brand' as he likes to call it) gets out of the dungheap. The alternative method of paying debt that he has presented is taking out more debt. 'A few short term loans', he breezily labels them. This is what he has chosen instead of having all debts cleared and a club recapitalised. Sing the chairman's praises at your peril.

yonmon 15-10-2009 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753813)
Doug
it seems astonishing someone people have described O'neill as a knight in shining armour!

We had the chance to do more than just survive, more than re-finance the debt, more than beg of the footballing world for donations.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...ningArmour.jpg

And in the new 'STANLEY STRIP' as well !!

'ON STANLEY!!!...ON!!....TO GREATER THINGS !!!'

VALAIRIAN 15-10-2009 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 753703)
I Totally AGree!!!!.the negative brigade are the same people who failed to secure World domination through the ASSF!.Support the club and stop thinking about personal gains!.If you don't like the idea and concept and your only contribution is to criticise the Directors et al, then perhaps you should "go forth"..............Sour Grapes!!!!!!:p

Do not think you will find much negativity from me!!!!! :confused: :rolleyes:

VALAIRIAN 15-10-2009 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 753817)
Sorry Doug but Ilyas didn't withdraw his offers because the board wouldn't jump when he asked them to as you put it, he withdrew his offers because of the insults levelled at him by two of our directors, if they hadn't done that the offers would still be on the table. Those two directors should be removed from the board and if they are not I can only assume that the chairman agrees with their comments.

Top post girl :)

Bagpuss 15-10-2009 21:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 753817)
Sorry Doug but Ilyas didn't withdraw his offers because the board wouldn't jump when he asked them to as you put it, he withdrew his offers because of the insults levelled at him by two of our directors, if they hadn't done that the offers would still be on the table. Those two directors should be removed from the board and if they are not I can only assume that the chairman agrees with their comments.

My thoughts where that this would not be mentioned until the tax bill was paid but now it's here again let's name and shame the two and demand a statement from O'Neill.:mad:

I can hear Mr H saying that's good coming from you of all people.;)

MichiganRed 16-10-2009 03:21

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I generally refrain from getting involved in matters like this but I'd like to point out one thing if I may.

When this is all said and done, regardless of which group or person comes through to save the day, we are still Stanley fans. As we are reading these posts let's keep in mind that emotions are running high on all sides. Take the time to temper your posts and make a conscious effort to take the posts of others with that proverbial grain of salt.

I would hate to see the club pull through this nightmare just to die a slow miserable death because some people took offense to something they have read and walked away from the Stanley.

JEFF 20-10-2009 13:20

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Just received my official application form

Shurm 20-10-2009 14:54

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Me too hmmm :confused: what's this one for a grand :eek:

Doug 20-10-2009 15:05

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Me too, I have a big problem with it as well. How the hell do I get round buying an upgraded package without her finding out.

Wynonie Harris 20-10-2009 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 755198)
Me too, I have a big problem with it as well. How the hell do I get round buying an upgraded package without her finding out.

You're a brave man, Doug! Think I'll have to stick with the "Bronze package". Any upgrades and I could find myself sleeping on the Clayton End. ;)

Doug 20-10-2009 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 755202)
You're a brave man, Doug! Think I'll have to stick with the "Bronze package". Any upgrades and I could find myself sleeping on the Clayton End. ;)

I'm thinking of that large vacant space on the office wall; a signed frame shirt would look good next to the share.:D

Unfortunately having spoken to the piggy bank I can’t justify the extra, so I’ll have to stick with you and buy a bronze one.:o

VALAIRIAN 20-10-2009 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 755190)
Me too hmmm :confused: what's this one for a grand :eek:

I believe that there are a couple of special numbers... 1 and 1000. May be wrong.

DAV007 20-10-2009 17:50

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Can someone detail the '£1,000' offer?
what does it involve?

Shurm 20-10-2009 18:16

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Package Unique Ref Package content Price Packages Available
Platinum SOS 001 Limited Company Share and Official Certificate numbered SOS 001/500/999/1000 with limited SOS edition replica home shirt marked ‘SOS 001’/‘SOS 1000’ signed by full playing squad and management plus framed. £1,000 4
SOS 500
SOS 999
SOS 1000
Gold SOS 002 Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition home shirt as worn by the squad in 2009/10 season £500 39
To
SOS 040
Silver SOS 041 Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition replica home shirt and signed by an Accrington Stanley squad member of your choice £500 67
To
SOS 100
plus
SOS 200/ 300/400/ 500/600/ 700/800+ SOS 900
Bronze SOS 101 Limited Company Share and Official Certificate with corresponding SOS edition replica home shirt £250 890
To
SOS 998
(excl hundreds)

Upgrades Available:
Framed edition: additional £50 - Gold, Silver, Bronze packages only.
For all framed edition upgrades, the shirt will automatically be provided at Small-Senior size.

Management upgrade: additional £100
SOS Home Shirt signed by Management team and photo opportunity with John Coleman and Jimmy Bell

Player upgrade: additional £100
SOS Home Shirt signed by ASFC first team player of your choice with photo opportunity




Become an Official Accrington Stanley Shareholder:

10% of Accrington Stanley Football Club’s existing shares are on general sale through an exclusive Share Issue Package. The Accrington Stanley Share Issue Package offers supporters of the football club from around the world to be part of the ownership at Accrington Stanley Football Club ltd as an official share holder. There are 1000 official shares available through a range of different profile packages providing the opportunity for fans to be listed in the club’s official shareholder register, invited to Annual General Meetings, be entitled to the company’s financial accounts as well as receive a limited edition Save Our Stanley new home strip, official certificate plus 10 Flexi-tickets.

Shares
Ownership of a Limited Company ‘B’ Share is an official stake in Accrington Stanley Football Club Ltd whereby the holder is listed in the official company register, invited to company AGMs, plus entitled to annual financial accounts.
Accrington Stanley Football Club Ltd consists of 2000 Category ‘A’ Shares plus 9,800 Category ‘B’ Shares. Each full share is of equal holding value. The Share Issue Package involves a selection of current Shareholders that have agreed to release a combined total of 1000 existing Category B Shares back to the company which are now on general sale as part of a limited edition package.
As Share Packages are sold, the company shareholder register of Accrington Stanley football club limited will be amended accordingly, accommodating the details of each new shareholder.

Certificate
Upon purchasing a limited share, subject to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Company, a share certificate will be granted to the holder, dated and signed by a Company Director and Company Secretary. The share will also contain a unique SOS Reference listed between SOS 001-1000 accordingly that coincides with the SOS Reference embroided on to the limited edition Save Our Stanley home shirt.

Shirt
Accrington Stanley Football Club has agreed a new kit supplier to provide playing and training kit, as well as replica shirts and other branded apparel for retail. 1000 home shirts will be produced as limited edition ‘Save Our Stanley 09’ shirts to commemorate the recent fundraising efforts and celebrate the of Accrington Stanley. Shirts acquired as part of the Share Issue Package will be fully embroided with the ‘Save Our Stanley 09’ message plus unique SOS Code Number that correlates to the numbered limited share acquired.

Flexi-Tickets
Included in each package are 10x Flexi-Tickets.
One Flexi-Ticket entitles one Adult/Concession/Child to attend any home league fixture and can be used for ten people for one game, one person for ten games or combinations thereof. The tickets do not carry an expiry date and can therefore be used for upcoming seasons. Flexi-Tickets are to be handed to turnstile operators of the chosen stand.
Flexi-Tickets are non-refundable and contain no cash value.

Sponsorship Vouchers
As well as becoming an official Shareholder at Accrington Stanley, you or your company can receive 10% off a Match Day sponsorship or hospitality visit. There are a range of sponsorship opportunities for each home fixture including Official Match Sponsor, Match Ball Sponsor, and Programme Sponsor. The sponsorship and hospitality includes a delicious, home made three course meal in the ‘Buy the House’ lounge, reserved sponsorship seats by the dug-outs or the option of watching the game inside the lounge, a half time presentation as a sponsor with signed Accrington Stanley Merchandise, complimentary match day programme and team sheet and exclusive pre game announcement by assistant manager Jimmy Bell.

Merchandise Voucher
Get 10% off your next visit to the Crown Store especially once it is restocked with branded attire and training gear from the new kit supplier.
Terms and Conditions
1) All packages are subject to availability.
2) All prices shown exclude VAT.
3) There are 1000 Share packages on general sale, each assigned with a unique SOS Reference. SOS References are issued on a first come first serve basis.
4) Package contents include 1x Certificate, 1x Shirt, 2x Vouchers and 10x tickets, all available for collection and distribution from 1st December 2009.
5) Packages containing framed upgrades are available by collection only.
6) All shares and shareholders are subject to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Company.
7) Merchandise voucher entitles holder to 10% off next purchase at the Crown Ground Store. Provide the voucher at time of purchase to receive discount. Voucher can only be used once and cannot be exchanged for cash alternative. Discounted items can only be exchanged for
8) Hospitality voucher enables holder to 10% off one Match day hospitality or sponsorship package in the Buy the House Lounge. For further information about sponsorhip and hospitality contact the commercial department 0871 4341968/ [email protected]
9) Discount vouchers can only be used once and must be provided upon payment of the match day hospitality/sponsorship package. Photocopies not accepted.

MCR ADIM 21-10-2009 18:53

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on fishy site now

mab 28-10-2009 22:33

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How meany have taken up this offer of shares???

CLAYTON RED 28-10-2009 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 757973)
How meany have taken up this offer of shares???


do not ask the clowns as they will say 5 when probaly its 500

mab 28-10-2009 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CLAYTON RED (Post 757976)
do not ask the clowns as they will say 5 when probaly its 500

:eek: WELL THE CLOWNS PAID £20 EACH TO BUY THEM BACK;)

Neil 28-10-2009 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 757984)
:eek: WELL THE CLOWNS PAID £20 EACH TO BUY THEM BACK;)

I wonder where the £20,000 came from for that?

mab 28-10-2009 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 757988)
I wonder where the £20,000 came from for that?

:eek:£20K DONT YOU MEAN £30K the club bought 1500b shares back putting 1000 up for sale at £250/£500/£1000 and kept back 500b shares

K.S.H 29-10-2009 04:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 757988)
I wonder where the £20,000 came from for that?

Looks like it was out of the SOS fund, thats why there was only £96k in there

mab 29-10-2009 06:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 758024)
Looks like it was out of the SOS fund, thats why there was only £96k in there

Ken it was £30k!!!and your proberly right that it came out of the sos fund to buy theses shares on the hope that everyone would jump at the idear of owning a bit of stanley,and put back before anyone noticed,i would hazard a guess and say the fund should be around £147k. i think the point here is how could they (if correct) use the money for something else other than what it was intenden for:mad:

Outback Ozzy 29-10-2009 08:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 758032)
Ken it was £30k!!!and your proberly right that it came out of the sos fund to buy theses shares on the hope that everyone would jump at the idear of owning a bit of stanley,and put back before anyone noticed,i would hazard a guess and say the fund should be around £147k. i think the point here is how could they (if correct) use the money for something else other than what it was intenden for:mad:

Its in the system at the helm of the good ship Stanley - rob Peter to pay Paul hence the reason we are in the mire:mad:

VALAIRIAN 29-10-2009 16:46

Re: 1000 Shares Issue!!!
 
I do not think any money from the S.O.S. was used to by the shares. It was either loaned from some friend/relative, or they would be paid for when the shares were sold.


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