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DAV007

14-10-2009 21:51

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I was interested in buying real shares but not these mickey mouse ones.

Gayle

14-10-2009 21:53

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Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 753527)

It wouldn't matter as it is for season 09/10 only apparently

So the argument that some people have made about the season ticket holders buying a share instead of a season ticket is irrelevant. As the ones who would buy a season ticket have bought them already. So, the only way the club would lose out would be on occassional ticket buyers, in which case the share option is an advance on the ticket sales.

Bradshaw Boy

14-10-2009 21:55

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753618)

I was interested in buying real shares but not these mickey mouse ones.

once the club has been save you might get a chance - you never know

Bradshaw Boy

14-10-2009 22:02

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Got this response to my email:

Hi Dave

Thank you for the quick response.

That is great news that you are interested.

I am currently collecting the contact details of the individuals and businesses that are interested as the club is still arranging the most practical payment methods for this campaign.

If you could please provide me with your full name and address, and when the payment methods have been sorted I will contact you with all the details about the packages on offer.

Kindest Regards

Martin Edmundson

Commercial Sales and Marketing Executive

Accrington Stanley Football Club

Doug	14-10-2009 22:06

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 753615)

Result!...and, yes, I know, my share won't be worth much and I won't have any voting rights and, as a season ticket holder, my flexi-tickets will be sod all use...but, symbolically, at least, I'll have a little piece of Stanley! :) :cool:

She was having a bad afternoon in the office and had a paddy. Later on she said she was sorry, so I told her that I had gone and ordered shares this afternoon out of spite because she was being an arse…..:D she felt guilty :o and I’m in the clear :). I’ll be ordering mine in the morning if someone at the club picks up the bloody phone.:rolleyes:

Doug	14-10-2009 22:08

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Originally Posted by Bradshaw Boy (Post 753624)

Got this response to my email:

Hi Dave

Thank you for the quick response.

That is great news that you are interested.

I am currently collecting the contact details of the individuals and businesses that are interested as the club is still arranging the most practical payment methods for this campaign.

If you could please provide me with your full name and address, and when the payment methods have been sorted I will contact you with all the details about the packages on offer.

Kindest Regards

Martin Edmundson

Commercial Sales and Marketing Executive

Accrington Stanley Football Club

I will ring and if no luck I will e-mail Mr. Edmundson. :)

Shurm

14-10-2009 22:34

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At least he got a reply another admin balls up might just keep my money, people act on impulse with these things it annoys me I've got to pester them to give them money !!!! :rolleyes:

maccawozzagod

14-10-2009 22:51

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 753615)

Result!...and, yes, I know, my share won't be worth much and I won't have any voting rights and, as a season ticket holder, my flexi-tickets will be sod all use...but, symbolically, at least, I'll have a little piece of Stanley! :) :cool:

quick idea, but if anyone who is unable to use their flexi tickets for whatever reason wants to send them to the OSC I'll try to work on a way of distributing them around some supportive local businesses. Maybe a little way of giving them something back?

Revived Red

14-10-2009 23:09

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 753621)

So the argument that some people have made about the season ticket holders buying a share instead of a season ticket is irrelevant. As the ones who would buy a season ticket have bought them already.

Yes, it is irrelevant now. But when the point was made, I for one did not know the validity of the flexi ticket. Had it been valid for next season, I would have been tempted to buy a share instead of a season ticket.

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 753621)

So, the only way the club would lose out would be on occassional ticket buyers, in which case the share option is an advance on the ticket sales.

Not really. The club would lose out because some of us cannot afford a season ticket AND a share. So it misses out on the share.

DevonStanley

14-10-2009 23:25

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 753618)

I was interested in buying real shares but not these mickey mouse ones.

This so-called share issue is completely bonkers. A share of what? It appears to me that what the club is doing is selling a piece of paper, 10 tickets and a shirt for £250. All this to bail out the current incumbents? It appears to me they are trying to save their own necks, not the club.

As soon as supporters can get together and form a supporters trust with the aim of taking proper control of the club from those who are running it now the better.

That might happen if the club were to go into administration. It won't happen if those running the club now are bailed out be well-meaning supporters.

You who live in the Accrington area should contact Supporters Direct and get some proper advice. Supporters Direct is recognised by the Government and the FA... it's not a mickey mouse organisation. Also, you might like to contact David (?) Conn at The Independent, he's long been running articles about struggling football clubs and how their supporters are frequently hoodwinked by the clubs' directors. David Conn, I believe, lives in the Manchester area and if you are serious would quite likely come to talk to you - as would Supporters Direct.

Go for it if you want the club to survive. It's not too late, believe me. Exeter City was saved very much at the brink by its Supporters' Trust and received a lot of goodwill and help to achieve that.

DAV007

14-10-2009 23:35

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DevonStanley

I agree mate.

Nothing more than spin from Oneill and co.

We have been lied to, decieved and spun lots of open ended language - and at the end of it all, the last action of a doomed ownership is to go into more debt.

These people have failed; but so have we as fans if we do not use this opportunity to change the clubs ownership and direction.

Neil	15-10-2009 06:31

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 753621)

Not quite true. I would expect most season ticket holders would give the 10 tickets away to friends and family so they did not feel they had wasted them.

Neil	15-10-2009 06:38

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This quote from Martin Edmundson is ridiculous

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I am currently collecting the contact details of the individuals and businesses that are interested as the club is still arranging the most practical payment methods for this campaign.

If you could please provide me with your full name and address, and when the payment methods have been sorted I will contact you with all the details about the packages on offer.

So the share offer has been arranged and the Commercial Sales and Marketing Executive does not even know how to sell the damn things to the people who want them. He is not fit to hold his job.

They should have expected many emails and phone calls from people wanting info and to buy them. They should have been prepared but he has not even decided how to take the money of people.

The club would do better run by school children. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

maccawozzagod

15-10-2009 08:00

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Originally Posted by DevonStanley (Post 753642)

As soon as supporters can get together and form a supporters trust with the aim of taking proper control of the club from those who are running it now the better. You who live in the Accrington area should contact Supporters Direct and get some proper advice. Supporters Direct is recognised by the Government and the FA... it's not a mickey mouse organisation.

we're on it ;)

Outback Ozzy

15-10-2009 08:32

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Originally Posted by DevonStanley (Post 753642)

Believe me when I say I thought exactly the same ie 1000 shares at £250 + what is in the SOS fund = Dave O'Niell and fellow directors getting away scot free. Not so n'est pas, according to our CEO - the money for the taxman has already been collected ie SOS fund + £100k from directors + £50k loan from a local businessman and this will be paid shortly, in fact we await the declaration on the Official website that it has been paid and indeed Accrington Stanley live to fight another season. The share issue as I see it is to consolidate that position for the remainder of the season and the future. We live in hope!:rolleyes:

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