Derby set sights on Symes :(
 

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Skysports.com understands Derby are lining up a move for Accrington hot-shot Michael Symes.

Symes has been attracting the interest of a host of clubs higher up the football pyramid after an impressive season at Accrington.

The former Everton youngster has netted 13 goals so far this season and Accrington are facing a fight to keep hold of the 26-year-old.

Derby are keen to bolster their attacking options and they are believed to have watched Symes in action this season.

The Rams could firm up their interest with a bid in the transfer window, with Accrington unlikely to be able to reject a sizeable offer.




Not surprising really, but I hope we can hold onto him till at least the summer :(:(:(

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Hope a deals not done and dusted till AFTER the 3rd round...Good luck to him if he moves on.

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Why is it always Derby who seem to be interested in our Strike Duo, do we have a County mole in the Stanley camp:eek:

On a serious note it would not surprise me to see a few clubs sniffing around for Symes, he has had a cracking season so far and for him this season was always going to be a make or break one, just glad Coley showed faith in him where perhaps others wouldn't have and it's paid dividends so far:)

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Management will know how much possibly derailing our season is worth. If Symes or Grant are sold off I only hope Coley has his eye on a realistic replacement - (maybe King, although haven't seen him play) - perhaps someone like James Constable who has banged in a few for Oxford in the conf ?

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Coley won't stand in his way if the terms of any deal are right, but what should we hold out for?

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Good luck to the lad if he goes. Personally i think his touch and footwork and overall play would be good enough for no higher than league 1 but if he went then we would have to wait and see.

Hopefully too if they bought him it would be for a good amount, and having got him for free its top business by coley, what league 2 is all about really

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Hes got to be worth at least £250k IMO

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smudgie;

The former Everton youngster has netted 13 goals so far this season and Accrington are facing a fight to keep hold of the 26-year-old.



The Rams could firm up their interest with a bid in the transfer window, with Accrington unlikely to be able to reject a sizeable offer.



Just wonder what the "Sizeable Offer" would be???? If we start losing players like Grant,Symes,Edwards,Ryan, then it would be like looking up at that £308K tax bill again.... In my opinion :(

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Maybe even worse as if they all went, form can drop in an instant and back down the table we could go...

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The thing with any Football Club is players are always going to be linked with moves out & moves in, so maybe no need to press the panic button just yet.

The bigger picture is that the Club must do what is best for all parties concerned should it come to players moving on it must be with the right fee and the correct replacements to keep everything on track.

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Just hope he stays till at least the summer as, if he does go and he doesnt get in straight away etc he will just be like craney and slip back down the league, only roberts has done well from stanley playing in league one now looking at play-offs, hope symes atleast holds of till the summer, better deal for both than.

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I'm not sure if Symes' current deal expires at the end of this season or not. If so, it may be wise to cash in now. I'm sure someone will know about that. Whatever happens I know Coley (and Coley alone) will make the best decision for the club.

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Can go with that, much as i would hate hate symes to leave, i think though if his deal is longer than end of season, it would be wiser to wait 4 months, as i'm sure he will have bagged 20 plus by season end, n that should "Double" todays valuation, whatever that is. :)

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I would expect £500,000 for Symes, and another £500,000 for Grant. I think they could both make it in the championship. I hope they stay at Stanley

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As far as I know Symesy + Bobby's contracts expire in June. Both could then go for free!! Although I guess as Bobby is under 24 and our "homegrown" player we'd get something via a commission/tribunal. Guess around £10-50+ VAT!! Hence then need to look a realistic offers now IMHO

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We'd be lucky to get more than £100k for Symes, especially if his contract ends in June.

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They might be generous ya never know... i think we can blag 300,000

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If we got £200k for Symes it would be a good piece of buisness.

I dont think we have a mole in the squad in terms of our talent being reccomended to Derby its more likely they have a loud mouth scout.

I personally wouldnt sell Grant unless we got a £400k+ offer. It might seem a lot for a league 2 striker but the lad has alot of potential and room for further improvement, plus we can still get a fee for him if he walks away being under 24 and home-grown.

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according to fishy site last summer Grant signed for two years - along with Ryan, Edwards and Turner.

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keep them .. we got him for free he as payed us back all ready in cups and league so why sell . keep him and give him new deal .we could be in league one next year and played in sum big cup games to come put them new 2 year deals ..

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I thought Symes was younger than what he is so in retrospect the fee would probably be nearer to the 100k mark than the 300 or so that I would have expected if he was three years younger. A lot will depend on IK and what sort of state our/his finances are in. He is worth more to us than 100k so it would be daft to sell him. Purely on profit and loss though it would look extremely good on the balance sheet having turned a 100% profit on him. You'd also have to think that at 26 years old this would more than likely represent his last chance at a reasonably big move.

Grant however is entirely different. He is young enough for a big club to realise they could still mould him in whatever manner they wish. They would pay premium rate for that. £350-400k should be realistic. And that would be money we couldn't and shouldn't turn down. But I also think that Grant would listen to his Uncle Coley and choose wisely should the offers come in.

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I have it on good advice that there are 4 clubs chaseing symes, cardiff, coventry, derby, sheff utd, and 2 league 1 clubs,i also spoke to someone close to michael and he said he loves it at accy, and wants to stay and get promo and is not interested in moving,and has asked for a new contract which i belive coley is seeing to, his current 1 runs out in the summer, bit upset to read accyaggro coments about his play,u cant please everyone,

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hope yer right mate, can't see much wrong wi accyaggro's opinion, aint said nowt nasty, just his view, aint mine but nowt wrong wi saying what ya think.

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personally think a move for bobby is far too early ref craney and to a certain extent roberts who have not achieved their potential, however totally agree with macca that he will listen to uncle coley and will hopefully stay

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does he bounce? nah, then he's not a blade!

next time you see the 'someone close' to him, tell them to tell him to tell them all to shove their offers!!

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:)Its nice to think that symes wants to ignor other clubs and repay JC and stanley and sign a new contract!Lets hope its true:)

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I remember someone (maybe Rob Heys) saying that Premier League clubs would be happy with Ilyas Khan's financial backing and that we aren't in a position where we need to sell. Surely we'll offer him a new contract on this basis. As Symes wasn't a regular starter at other clubs why would he want to move away from first-team football? If the interest is still there in the summer then that's a different matter entirely.

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Spot on there. Regular starts under a manager who rescued him from bench warming counts for a hell of a lot.

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I would give him a 2 year contract NOW.


Simply brilliant............................ THE WONDERFUL MICHAEL SYMES

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not long enough 3 yr at least.:)

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An 18 month contract with a trigger of a certain amount of money in it so if anybody does enquire there is a set transfer fee in place before negotiations even take place.:)

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Give Symes a 12 month extension to his current, that is good enough at this stage :) If we are not careful we will be going down the same road as we did with Mullers and look where that took us :eek: :) :)

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that in my view was caused by rank bad judgement, they had the chance to scoop in region of £70K fer him n didn't.;) plus if figures are to believed he was on far too much fer a club of our resources.

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Blag £300k ? I think he is worth at least that. The Goal at Rochdale proves what he is capable of. Probably one of the best goals in the league this season. Cracking Player.

Simply brilliant............................ THE WONDERFUL MICHAEL SYMES

Also Has anybody heard anything about Jimmy Ryan ? He has been brilliant in midfield this season and im suprised i havent heard any rumours about offers coming in for him.

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Didn't we accept the offer Cashy?? Just Mullers did not :confused: :) :)

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The goals against Crewe, Shrewbury and Notts County spring to mind, too. However the fact remains that Symes only has six months left on his contract and that has a big effect, as does his age like macca mentioned earlier. If we were to sell him this month it'd be closer to £100k in the bank. If he's willing to sign a new contract however and if we don't have to sell, then obviously there's no point in selling him for that amount. There's always the chance that his form will die off but Coley is getting more out of Symes every time I see him play. I'd agree with Pendle Red - give him 18 months with a clause to release him should we get a monster offer. We can't go giving out silly contracts of over two years at our level.

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I think Symes is enjoying his football at stanley, playing week in week out, scoring goals, linking up well with players, like people have said all ready why would he want to move to another club where he might not get to start every week, coley again has got the best out of him like he has with all the players, hope he does stay till end of season and for next season, i want to keep the whole squad as it is, were doing very well now so there is no reason why we cant continue this form in the last half of the season.

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why are they silly shaker? if ya don't go overboard wi salary, a striker of his age will have a much higher resale value wi a longer contract IMHO.

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But what if he gets crocked, can we afford to keep paying him. Harsh, I know, but at this level of football, you just can't take the chance.

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Exactly, longer contracts on dead-cert players are worth the money - hope we learn from the mistake with KA.

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agree redash, think if he gets 20 plus this season though its worth a 4 month risk.;) ya gotta speculate to accumulate.:)

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I'm talking of long 3 or 4 year contracts.

I think 1-2 year contracts are about the best we, or any other L2 club, could realisticly offer.

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1 year are crazy wi good players, can leave fer sod all at end of season. 3 i reckon.

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Sounds harsh but we've only seen good form from Michael Symes since August. There's also the inury aspect that Redash points out. The only player I'd be comfortable giving a two-year-plus contract to would be Phil Edwards. We've seen consistent, largely injury free form from him for years. Symes has never played a full season for any club, let alone gone one with consistent form and free of injury. Like you say cashy so often there's no room for sentiment. Eighteen months with a buy-out clause would be sensible for our level.

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we will have to disagree shaker, strikers fer me are a differant thing, they generate much more revenue than midfielders/defenders etc, i think fer whats left of the season its well worth speculating.:) end of the day hes only 26

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All of our new contracts - this season on - are pay as you play, if he got injured we would not be shelling out like we are for JM and LR (Both on old contracts!) It has been noted on here, in the past Symes has been injured regularly!! :)

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I heard over the Christmas period that Blackpool have had Symes watched several times already this season. They`re very interested apparently. I would rather keep him on a longer contract with a buy out clause as others have said.

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Both John Mullin & Leam Richardson must be on the new wage structure as there was only Paul Mullin & Sean McConville under contract during the summer.

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Johns contract was triggered from previous season, so wages were the same. As for Leam not 100% on terms of his deal, but am 90% sure he is being paid well and has not played too many mins this season :confused: :) :)

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They were both new contracts though so I presumed they were made up with the new structure. I know it took a while for Leam to sign so it must be full of performance related pay packages. Can the oracle Mr T clear this up? :)

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Some good articles coming from the Telegraph at the moment.

Very on the ball!!

Good effort

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Good to see a report like that, let's hope we can keep hold of the likes of Bobby and Symes and push on up the table :) Cheers for the link Shaker :)

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thanks shaker its good to see comments like that coming from Mr Heys, lets hope its meant.

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If Blackpool are interested, maybe they'd do us a swap for our Brett :rolleyes:

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Accymad we just got shut of one owd fogie.:D

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3 figure fee? I'm sure Colly will hold out for much more than £8.97 or even £999 :)

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No to loan, No to buy

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No no no.

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"It wouldn't go down well if we accepted a substandard offer for any player."
-Rob Heyes.

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You can't buy Crown Jewels on the cheap.

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True but ya can nick em.:eek:

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I would like to think that we are not that stuck for cash, that we need to lose someone like Symes so soon!!! As for a loan deal, what use is that for us???? Let's just get Gills beaten and put some cash in the bank and put all this rubbish to bed... :)

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Really? Didn't know you'd returned to Ewood Cashy :rolleyes:

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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just win cup game put 67.500 bank it puls next round money in . i think we can beat any team .

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The prospect of playing a Premiership team in the next round of the cup could be a carrot.

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I thought that Derby were supposed to be interested in Bobby Grant a couple of months ago.

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If both players dont want to sign contracts then they expire in the summer so if they dont then get them sold to the highest bidder and get them loaned to us for the rest of the season so we can finish the season off still on a high! I think Bobby could play at Championship level and could do a Gary Roberts, as for Symes i dont think he would be that good playing a Championship level! Dont forget that he has been rejected at so many clubs and has scored very little for other clubs except ares. League 1 player at the most and thats only because of his age.

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I would disagree slightly with you FC on that in that for me Bobby Grant is not yet the finished article and is still maturing, I think he would genuinely struggle at this stage of his career at a higher level, that's not to say he may not go on to play at a much higher level, I just don't think yet.

Michael Symes does have a decent pedigree and I think that it is injuries more than anything else that has stop started his career, he has the ability to play at a higher level certainly League One and maybe even the Championship, the key for me with Symes this season is he did a full pre season and that has paid dividends and Coleman showed faith in him where perhaps others have not.:)

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i would agree wi both of those statements.

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i Agree with all above plus he has had a good run in the team, not just coming of the bench in the last 10mins and trying to make an inpacted. He propberly thought he had some big shoes to fill taking over from Mullin and i think he has filled them just i hope he stays for as long as Mullin.

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Me too :)

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he'll be 83 before he leaves!!!!

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:mad:

Sky Sports | Football News | League 2 | Accrington Stanley | Symes playing waiting game

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Sounds like hes waiting for the end of the transfer window :(

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You cant blame him to be honest! I honestly think he will go. If so we need some good money for him which i think a club like derby could give! Its up to the board to get the best price!

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well i can blame him, obviously waiting fer a better offer, given the fact "Stanley" is the only club he's had sucess at, probably cos coleys given him the confidence, he's well aware he can go fer sod all at the end of season, ya can ask clubs for certain clauses to be put in contracts, as far as i'm aware, don't seem like he's done that?:(

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Coley has given him the confidence, a good run in the team, very good morale around the club aswell, what would be good is if he does go to be loaned back till the end of the season so that we can still play really well until end of the season than look for another striker in august!

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:( Totaly agree cashy,no one wants to stand in any players way and Ambitions they have !!But Coley showed alot of faith and brought symes back from the football wilderness.may be its time for the club to put a value on his services to see who's really interested:(

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Agree, much as i would like Symes to stay, to me the position he has put the club in, i think stanley should bang a 500K fee on him, which is NOT silly money fer a club from a higher division to pay fer a striker. then see what develops.

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I think anybody who has had Symes watched and like what the have seen will already have their valuation in mind, Whether that meets what the Club have in mind if they were put in that position who know's?

But there has to be a sensible line which I am sure both Club & Player will follow knowing that he can walk away at the end of the season for nothing

We are lucky in one sense that we perhaps do not need to sell and I would like to think the Player is probably is more settled than he has been for a while and that may just be the thing that makes him sign the New Contract:)

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if that were the case pendle red, why say he will wait until end of transfer window? would love ya to be right, but can't see it.

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hope he stays and i think he wants to,just needs his contract sorting out,take nowt notice of those silly rumors,the clubs on the up lads,

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if ya read that link vic, the rumours seem to come from the man.:eek:

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I'm quietly confident that he will stay,Alas i may be wrong but it's always wise in business to keep options open and to get the best deal for yourself rather than jumping in and signing away to something straight away.

Slow and steady wins the race:eek::D

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one way to shaw symes what will happen if he gose to a big club is put him in the res next time they play ..... if he dose not get any goals from the start he will be back in a role that he dose not like on the beach or in the 2nd team .

Re: Derby set sights on Symes :(
 

I hope the club has learned its lesson with regards to wages and offered Symes and Grant sensible deals. Though I'm confident that will be the case with Ilyas at the helm. It would be nice if Symes showed a little more urgency to sign with us, after all he would be warming a bench at somewhere like Macclesfield this weekend were it not for John Coleman rescuing his career. I'm not casting any blame on him for looking upwards while the 'big boys' have a sniff, I'd just like him to remember which side his bread's buttered. ;):)

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we could be in league one next year ...... like wigan ,hereford exeter , etc ,we can do it with this team and sum help from sir ilyas and is pal mr marsden obe

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Nail right on the head shaker.

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Might be being a little unfair, but I would have thought that Symes would be happy at being offered an extension to his contract and maybe would have signed up with us :confused: It has been said before, he has not done anything else, anywhere else, so he has not just become a great player over night, it must be a combination of things that have helped him become better! Coley and Stanley, being two of them!! Though maybe now having the confidence, he may do it elsewhere?? Hope not though :rolleyes: :)

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aint a little unfair mate its the truth.;)

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If he hasn't any loyalty for what we've done he won't be missed

If he has, he will be worshipped till he does get his move

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Agreed with that.

I have nothing against a player leaving for bigger & better and things, but the whole...

"Im not in a rush im waiting till the end of the month", does leave a sour taste.

It just translates as........

"Ill wait to see if Derby, QPR or anyone else wants me, if not then ill sing the contract for next season"

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Fair point that matey :)

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I was told by a Ipswich fan they where linked with an Accrington Stanley striker. Cant find nothing on the web, but presume it is Symes?

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:( BOBBY GRANT :( There was a link i found but its since been removed Rumour Mill: Roy is Keane on Grant
Vital Football - Accrington Stanley 12:48 Tue, 5 Jan 10

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I wouldn't go off any vitals sites for news; they have third hand stories with minimal quotes or rumours that you can hear in any pub's bull**** corner.