Peter Cavanagh is Innocent
 

That is all, roll on April!

:)

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What you on jase ????

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I second those sentiments towards our most succesfull ever captain!

Ooo Ah Cavanagh!
Say Ooo Ah Cavanagh!

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well back it up then!

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Nothing new to add, just an opinion; a statement if you like in support of our greatest ever skipper!

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How is he innocent if he was found guilty by the FA and his appeal was thrown out?! I hope the club don't resign him as this would a Google Page Ranking disaster, we do not want to be associated with him or Rocky. He was a great captain but he threw that away when he put that bet on.

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Peter Cavanagh is innocent and the way he was treated by the FA (and some of our fans) was deplorable. We want and need the captain back.

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He was found guilty by the FA, which would suggest to me that he was guilty of betting against his own team. If that is the case then he should never be allowed to play for the team again. I would trust the FA judgement over Cavanagh coming out with statements that he is innocent.

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Bull he was found guilty,past history counts fer nowt wi out like this, if hes back i'm gone simple as.

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Cav's been completely transparent, dictating in interviews what the actions were and what he was punished for. I'll dig them out if you like. I for one don't trust the authority of the FA in this matter and would welcome Cav back any day. That's all.

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Stanley till you die Cashy, its the only way.

Its not Cav saying he is innocent, its me! :)

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I agree, this wasn't a thread for debate. It was a thread in support of a legend in red & white.

Admin do your stuff:D

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We are better without Cav fact, most solid defense we've had in years, leave the past in the past, not good enough for the top half of league 2.

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Admin !? :)

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Id love Cav back, so would John and Jimmy, so would most of the fans and most of all so would Cav. He captained us to the football league and has unfinished business left for Accrington Stanley!
I would also welcome him back with open arms.

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this thread aint the brightest move ya ever made jase,:rolleyes:

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Its a forum man, don't worry.

Some support the man like me, some don't like you. Nay bother....I hope if Cav is reading, then he appreciates the support from the ones who value his contribution to our history over 10 years at Acc.

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thats the point i'm trying to make, coleys been on tv wi positive vibes coming out, this can only make negatives. imho.

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Ah yes, I get it. Raking it all up.

Point taken, but Accyweb ain't exactly BBC1...... :)

I am just very excited pal, its only 3 days till Torquay away weekender.

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No one's trying to spread negative vibes or to convince anyone of anything. The ones who support, admire and respect Cav for all he's done for our club (and all he's been through in his time) just want to show that he hasn't been forgotten and that we'd love him to come back. Even aside from questioned sentiments I still think he could be the best full-back in this league. I won't be mithered if people disagree :)

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What went on cast the biggest cloud over the Club for many a year, things have moved on leave the past in the past!

This one really is a hornet's nest

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Can someone just remind me,,,was Cavs part in the' betting scandle' a 5 pound bet or was that one of the other players?

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Yes Kiwi, Cav's alledged part was a 5 quid accumulator which he always maintained was put on by his brother in law, and the bet that day was not for a Bury win, he did not bet against his own team. I believed him at the time and still do, others didn't and never will - Jimmy & Coley have said they would love to have him back, dion't think they would if he had been guilty as charged

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Hehe willie whether u like it or not it looks like u opened a debate, i take it he's allowed back in april, good i hope he learnt a lot and can just keep it on field this time obviously earn his place back as other players have made consistant effort in the push in the league, legend maybe but its a team effort. To me stanley is legend till i die.
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we have had him in the good times ..... he bet on us ..... got dun so keep away .... go back to the betting shop with rocky $$$$$$$

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thing is some folk have sadly not been up the crown since last years fiasco.:( how many i have no idea,but 2 i am aware of, bumped into 1 a few weeks back n tried to convince him to return, he said he would at some point, aint seen him yet though, do people honestly think crap like this will bring more to return?:(

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keep him away we could have been kick out league football too

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OK, so by next April he's had his punishment and he should be given another chance...but not at Stanley. That's in the past now and should stay in the past.

Bringing him back, on top of taking the flags off the fans and hiring stewards with attitude problems...it all helps to drive the gates back down to the 500 mark! :rolleyes:

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Hes loyal though!! It was a £5 bet!! He did nothing like the other players and even pleaded not guilty and also dont forget how bad he was treated by the f.a , they didnt give him a second look tbh! Cav still gets in the dressing room on home and away games and still watches most matches! Unlike the other players who dont at all, they got their ban and couldnt care less!! His heart is at Accrington and he shows it by coming etc.

He still even pleads not guilty, what if he isnt actually guilty?!!

Also aswell whats wrong with second chances, look at Lee Hughes for example!!!!

Bringing Cav back would be good for the team as hes a superb player and deserves his chance after all that he has done for the club!!!! Maybe people forget about his amazing captainancy!! Bringing him back also wouldnt bring the gates down at all, maybe 1 or 2, but if people arnt going to come because a player is coming back after serving his punishment then they arnt very loyal are they?!!

People do wrong in life and its the same for footballers. Bobby Grant and Ian Dunbavin have also brought shame on this club aswell by some of the things, we wouldnt not want them though?

Bring Cav back, im sure Coley will anyway!!

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i would hope coley has n higher I.Q. than that.

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Whos that coming out of ladbrokes?

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Yes and another club gave Lee another chance! Cav hasnt murdered anyone, he just put a £5 bet on, he still says it wasnt him. As for the clown, any need? I have my opinion like yours!! Your opinion isn't always right.

So if cavanagh comes back that means that you wont go to a stanley game until he stops playing for Accrington? Is that correct? I think that would be a bad decision to be honest!!

Why with a different club though? Its different for cav, he loves the club, he gave everything for the club as a captain , he captained us back to the football league, he loves the fans and most fans love him, he still follows stanley around the country and still gets in the dressing room!! It was a £5 bet, that he still says he didnt do, i think that to be honest is worthy of when hes done his punishment to come back if coley says so!!

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i called you a clown fer yer comment about loyalty, i stand by that comment. £5 or £5000 is not the issue, he was found guilty like it or not, that therefore negates any chance of a return in my book.

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With the fact that hes still says it wasnt him, for the fact he captained us back to the football league, for the fact he loves stanley, for the fact that alot of fans still love cav, for the fact that hes a very good player and for the fact that even though he got banned he still got involved in the dressing room, i think he deserves another chance. Alot of people will agree with this, alot of people wont, but we will just have to see what coley does. I think he will bring him back!

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keep him out ... only place for him is betting shop. with is pals

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Well he would say that wouldn't he? many many prisoners in gaol always protest say they are not guilty, that is fact. do you honestly think most of em are telling the truth?:rolleyes:

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Yes i can understand that, but i or you dont know that he isn't innocent, if he isn't hes still done his time and deserves to play football again, if he is innocent then he deserves alot of apologies! He even spent so much aswell on legal fees because he was so determined not to get banned. I believe Cav and wish him the best at coming back into football and hopefully with Accrington Stanley!!

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no ones saying he dont deserve to play again, can ya not grasp that fact, with another club, if one wants him.

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Yes but he deserves to play for Accrington Stanley! Like many have said on the first page.

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No he doesn't. It doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, he was found guilty and therefore to take him back would be a Google Page Ranking disaster. I also question that he is good enough for the current squad, which of Winnard and Lees would you drop ?

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Nail right on the head samf, some seem to let sentiment rule oer the big picture! i often wonder if these folk would be happier back in Non League.:rolleyes:

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He put a £5 bet on the Stanley v Bury match. What about the bet he had on Stanley v Dagenham the following season ? Have you chosen to disregard that ? As for captaining us back into the Football League. He only played 23 games in the Championship winning season, so I would say that it was Mully who captained us back into the Football League. Let him back into football by all means, by the time his ban is up he will be good enough for Bamber Bridge, Burscough or with his pals at Marine, but he WON'T BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR STANLEY.

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Why?

If he cared about the club or indeed football he would have been a good boy.

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You need to take a look at Stanley in League two with and without Cav, facts show that we're better off without him as we're better off without Mully. Both great players and got stanley we're they are now but none of them are good enough to take us any further. Stop living in the past and think with your head and not your hearts. Next thing to bear in mind is that if you had a supervisor working for you who should lead by example and they went against your rules for their own gain, dragged your company name through the mud, would you honestly have them back?

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This is the last post im going to do on this. My opinion is that Cav deserves another go at playing for stanley, i wouldnt say captain stanley as we are doing mighty fine with Proccy as captain but as a player, he is a good player and as ive been told he`s still keeping fit ready for when his ban has finished! So yes I would love to see cav back at the club and given another go playing for Stanley! I think he deserves it, hes done his punishment now move on!

Anyway, everyone has their own opinion and thats mine.

Thankyou and Goodnight :130:

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His low free kick in the last minute against Torquay kept us IN league football. Im with the give him another go crowd. If the stay away proves that he has turned to dogpoo, then let him go.

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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let him back then we let them all back. its stanley not we love cav

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I can't for the life of me see how a player would risk his career for a measly 5 pound bet ... I say if Coleman and Bell want him back,then back he comes. They more than anyone would know of what effect his presence will have on the team/club and fans.
Trust their judgement (it hasn't been too bad so far.) :)

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He couldn't time a tackle to save his life. Cav was a Conference player at the best. I'm with cashman, I'd rather watch the dingles than a Stanley team with Cav as a member.
Guilty as charged.

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After reading back the thread and a few other similar ones the same thing keeps popping up again and again, anybody else notice it?

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The word Cav?

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Anybody else see the irony of somebody called Russ taking the pee out of somebody else gambling :D

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:confused:

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:confused:

Sorry, missed the quote first time :o :o

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Cav was a good player and a good captain but I dont think he will ever be as good as he once was (and some people will question how good that was). I personally wouldn't risk bringing the clubs name back into negative publicity for the limited possible gain. A fully fit, galloping down the wing like in the Unibond and early Conference, Cav would be worth the gamble - maybe. But a laboured and tired Cav, or an injured 50% of the time Cav certainly wouldn't.

Personally I love the guy and what he has done for the club over the years. I also think he was hard done by in getting charged. But it would be a no from me.

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no no from here would be a backward step no player is bigger than the club.

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im sorry but people calling for his return have a screw loose.


HE BET ON HIS OWN TEAM TO LOSE, I DONT CARE IF IT WAS 1P OR 100K!! AND WAS FOUND GUILTY OF DOING SO!!!!!!!!!

Yes he was a decent player, but we are 1000000% better off without him.

As agreed with somebody else, if ever the day he, rocky, mangan or Harris step foot back on our pitch is the day I walk

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"I've never placed any bets on any game I've been involved in" - Peter Cavanagh, 2009.

I believe him. Always have, always will. Would love to have him in the squad again. If that brands me a fool then so be it. :)

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What a terrible backwards step to the tainted Whalley era that would be. I fervently hope that Ilyas would veto any such move, otherwise honestly I would turn my back on the club, much as it would hurt to do so.

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Agreed Redraine.

Cant believe Ilyas would let it happen to be honest

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The decision lies with John & Jimmy; Ilyas would never interfere with something like that.

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I'm with Smudgie on this one 100%

He bet on Accy to lose and he was the captain.

Unforgivable!:confused:

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then if it were to happen, the odds are quite a few would walk if posts on this thread are owt to go off.:(

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I see it, baa!!!

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Still can not see it????

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Cavanagh is Innocent.....

Whether he comes back to Accy is not my business although I would welcome it.

Fans talking of turning their back on the club are mad but it shows the strength of feeling. What a great thought provoking thread

Baaaa.

PS no need for calling anyone a clown Cashy, especially **** Lee! We are all Stanley togther!

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he had no need to question fans loyalty jase, i stand by what i said.as it was in response to that.

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I'd have Cav back, Mango is back in football, after his ban and doing very well, I belive cav when he says he is innocent, he has served his time, bring him back, would be a good coach to our young defence aswell.

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yeh right a fine example.:rolleyes: most convicted people plead innocence.

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This question has provoked a reaction as well as a split

Can I ask Mr. Miller your pride not pounds banner who was that directed at?

I think if he was to come back it would produce far more than that and the reprucussions well I dread to think

The answers to the question I posed earlier are both in the first line of this post

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It was aimed & still is at anyone who whilst playing for ASFC had placed large wager on a defeat.

You think Cav is in that group cause I don't. Clean through , goal at his mercy? You think, even if he did it, he would be thinking about a £5 5 team accumulator........?

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WOW !!! I'm off with RUSSthemink to Ladbrokes to put a couple of bets on.:thankya:
£5 on Cav coming back.
£5 on Cav not coming back.:egged:

Can;t win can I !!!:mosher:

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why should the size of the bet count?:confused: nick a mars bar from a shop or rob the till, still theft.

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Not many spend a heap on appeals with a baby on the way, either.

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Our young defence seems to be doing perfectly well without Cavanagh. Bradford game took us into positive goal difference for first time since.......(c'mon statto people, help me out). Well done that defence. Missed Cavanagh ? No, I'm not a fan

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Playing the sympathy card does not suit ya shaker, you aint a numpty, was he thinking happy families when he broke the rules n betrayed the club n the fans? even worse he was club captain.:rolleyes:

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if he signs, the crowd should sing this as his new song

YouTube - The Rasmus Guilty

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Some fans seem to have developed extremely short memories and i dont think they realize the scale of the betting on the Bury Game? Just look at how many Stanley players were involved? At the players hearing the FA said they had serious concerns that the game may have been fixed? I think it is therefore reasonable to assume that some individuals made a considerable amount of money on the outcome of the game. Cav has unfortunately come to represent this and although he may have only been the tip of the iceberg he was never the less found guilty and i am sure the majority of fans would not want him back and the club should distance itself from any attempts to re-instate him.

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Yeah congratulations to Peter & his wife .....

Mason Cavanagh, Stanley's newest fan!

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sorry for the spelling coming up......... he bet on stanley yes not onces two ..or more ... £5 yes .... if he bet 1p hes still bet on stanley. keep him away on the playing front.

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If he did come back I doubt any fans would actually leave Stanley but does he need Stanley more than Stanley need him? I think so.

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ya doubt wrong mate.

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I know for a fact a number of fans wouldent go if he was back.

I think even Coley has realised he relied to much on Cav & Robbie for too long, and they are Blue Square Premier players AT BEST.

I hope this thread gets closed to be honest as its bringing back some awful memories again of the darkest period in our clubs history.

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smudgie me owd mate this thread should NEVER have been started IMHO.:(

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I agree mate.

Maybe it was done for abit of a joke, god knows.

I vote Admin to close the thread

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agree, would prefer deletion though.

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It's Clitheroe for me if he is employed by Stanley again.

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This business with the gambling was a darker period than when David O'Neill was happy to let our club go bust (before Ilyas turned up at the court room)? Not on your nelly.

Seems odd that people are happy to go up Stanley while O'Neill & two of the Whalleys still swan about, but talk of Cav coming back and it's, "it'll be Clitheroe for me!". Nowt as queer as folk.

Anyway, Cav said last year that he'd never placed a bet on any game he'd been involved in. Some of us believed him. Some of us still believe him now as he continues to profess his innocence. We've shown support for him (and his family) in this thread and that's all it was for.

Calm down, calm down :)

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In my opinion it was equally as bad.

Im NOT happy about DON, RH or EW swanning about at all and I have made that clear, I dont even know how they can show their faces around the Crown to be honest.

I dont understand how people can think he is innocent after he was PROVEN GUILTY BY THE F.A???!!!!!

The sooner this thread is gone the better to be honest

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load of balls, aint happy about that at all, n as fer nowt as queer as folk, ya need to look in the mirror.:( i did not go near stanley when coley carried on playing cav n rocky, as i believed it should never have been, i still think the same, its called having principles.:mad:

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Don't those principles stand for Whalley/DO'N?

The point I'm trying to make is that no one is bigger than the team. If Coley chooses to re-sign Cav then some will be happy, some won't. Some are ok with the aforementioned geezers being around the club on match-days whereas I can't stand them being within 100 miles of Livvy Road. But because it's Stanley, we support the lads on the pitch regardless.

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i was told whalley was a paying spectator on sat, much as i dont like it, sod all anyone can do about that. as fer the Don someone has to run the ship like it or not, therefore i accepted ilyas word about that. n as fer supporting stanley regardless, thats fine as long as the players do. those who bet against the club, hell will freeze oer before i have any truck wi them, dont ya dare question my principles ever again.

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Sorry cashy if you think I was questioning your principles; I really, really wasn't. I was merely comparing the two situations to make a point. I'm unable to make that point any better so I'll bow out now as this thread has already started to descend into the ridiculous. I support Cav, believe his innocence and hope we sign him back. I really couldn't care less if people disagree, though it's sad to see. That's all.

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accepted.

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never trust Oneill, never did and never will

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2000 views, 100 replies and not 48 hours of a thread! You really know how to liven things up man :D :D

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... but it did provoke some negativity :rolleyes:

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I'm with you Cashman, None of the players who were suspended should ever be allowed to pull on the red shirt of Accrington Stanley ever again. They cheated, not only the club, but the supporters of Accrington Stanley and anyway, the defence we have now is doing rather better than when Cav and Rocky played for Stanley, best season we have had for a couple of years. If other teams want them, then so be it, but not Stanley please.

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This thread has been ruined by admin not deleting when I told them too....

Shame , Cav is Innocent!