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Can't see what the problem is myself. The football league have given dispensation to Portsmouth to allow them to make their squad up to the minimum of 20. Would have thought all football league clubs would be treated the same. Seems a bit pointless having rules :rolleyes:

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you would hope they would apply the same dispensation to stanley.

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More news on the embargo in today's LET :

www.lancashiretelegraph/stanley

(again you have to click on the 'news' tab to read the article) - according to this the embargo should be lifted 'imminently' - fingers crossed :)

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Stanley in urgent hunt for a striker (From Lancashire Telegraph)

"Stanley, who have taken former Tranmere midfielder Charlie Barnett on trial and travel to AFC Fylde for a friendly tonight, have received confirmation from the Football League that their annual accounts have now been received. The Football League want clarification on a couple of issues but the club hope their transfer embargo will be lifted imminently and are keen to start signing players from Monday.

The Reds are likely to start the season without a stadium sponsor after negotiations over a possible deal fell through – with the club unhappy with the money being offered."

It's never straightforward, is it? :rolleyes:

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It wouldn't be Stanley if it was - what would we fans do without a bit of drama :rolleyes:

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Any money offered will be more than we got last season and more than we are going to get this season. I wonder how much the Club are looking for to sponsor the ground.

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Does seem rather dumb to me.:rolleyes: probably want enough to pay whalley off.:rolleyes:

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Just checked on Companies House website. THE ACCOUNTS HAVE BEEN LODGED

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Anyone care to guess on what '..a couple of issues' may be?

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:eek::eek::eek:At long last!

Any other changes lodged at companies house?

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Ownership??
Tax??
H&S Cert??
Footy League requirements??


To hazard a few guesses:rolleyes:

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The club will tell us next week?

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Given the management's prior record in downplaying major problems, I think we can only be highly suspicious of this comment.

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Thanks Jeff thats a start. Pity theres nowt on the fishy telling folk..........still maybe next week.:rolleyes:

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I thought we were highly suspicious of every comment?

Hope they might be related to paying off the cardboard millionaire and at least ending one saga.

Thank goodness that this is such an honest and tranparent club that our questions will be answered soon. :rolleyes:

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My memory really isn't good- I'd forgotten I'd posted this........

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Frustrated with the contempt shown towards fans who have stumped up hard earned cash to help their club, I emailed the FL for reliable information:

Hi Alan

Unfortunately, we are not able to comment on any specific club that may or may not be subject to a registrations embargo. The Football League has a long-standing policy not to comment publicly about the imposition of embargoes, which is maintained to protect the interests of the clubs involved.
Player registration embargoes are imposed on clubs in instances where they have breached certain Football League regulations, policies or other requirements as determined by The League Board. The registration embargo will be maintained until the club rectifies the situation to the satisfaction of The League.
Given that we are unable to discuss the specifics of any particular case, we are sorry but we cannot comment further.

Kind Regards

Amanda

Amanda Craig
Customer Services Administrator
The Football League Limited

guess that's a 'no' then !

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She's just playing hard to get...give her another go.

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have told her about the sleepless nights Tealeaf - but not hopefull - probably Stanley have had their fair share of dispensations

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At least you gave it a go - if you don't ask you don't get :rolleyes:

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Hopefully it might push the matter up the in-tray when our backroom management have shaped up to the league's requirements.

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Excellent news, could an issue not be the stadium capacity? or the owner ?.

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- - - or all the 'tipex' in the accounts ! ( I've lost my smilies - just imagine an evil grin).

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One can't help but notice the "lack" of an official statement on the fishy site. Funny that as I am sure that when Ilyas was " in control " the statements couldn't come fast enough!! Déjà vu anyone?

Also, considering the club read this forum you would be forgiven for thinking that they would be falling over themselves to try and allay our fears. Or am I being a little over optimistic? Hmmm :(

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Bout time the penny dropped mate, bottom line is= the fans don't count.......unless they want summat.;)

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Won't be long now!!!:):):)

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That can't be right. It isn't next week until Monday.

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Still no official statement regarding the current embargo, good or bad, talk about leaving things till the last minute....:0

On the plus side though we have signed a goalkeeper coach ( see fishy site ). A much needed move me thinks!

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According to the Observer, the ban is set to be lifted "this week".

The accounts, though, have been sent to Companies House and the Football League and the Reds are just waiting for the all-clear from the league which they expect this week.

Coley steps up striker hunt with embargo due to be lifted - Accrington Observer

So, as I would imagine the FL admin staff don't work weekends, that must mean this afternoon, then! :rolleyes:

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I know the season has not began, however Coleman deserves manager of the year for putting up with this.
I do get a hint this episode may be the straw that broke the camels back, if any league clubs come knocking i expect him to move on.
You couldnt blame him, he has worked wonders to assemble a squad on conference north wages.

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Defender Sean Hessey and midfielder Charlie Barnett have both agreed 12 month deals at the Crown Ground.


From Official site, the first(2) of many...... :) :) :)

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Charlie Barnett played against Southport and AFC Fylde (number 10), he had two very good games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie...tt_(footballer)

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3439

Tis official........ :) :) :)

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cheers joe. onwards n upwards.:)

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Just noticed you guys have signed Charlie Barnett. Very talented player with a very bad attitude towards managers and coaching staff. Was signed for us by Ronnie Moore and threw a hissy fit when he wasn't immediately put in the first team. Barnes didn't like him and his relationship with Parry, who is tremendously easy going, completely fell apart. When Moore brought him into the team towards the end of the 08 season Barnett was our best player, and he helped us push on to 7th place in what was a very tough league that year playing on the left hand side. Calls himself a central mid but more suited to playing on the wing at this level. He's fast and tricky, technically good midfielder could run rings around most L2 full-backs if you can find a way to keep him happy. Wish we still had him really. Good luck for the rest of the season, think we'll be seeing you the season after.

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Thanks for that pok, as for season after next, we will be seeing you - in League 1!!!!!!!!!!

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Just read on the fishy site that our new goalkeeping coach was involved in the development of Dunbavin. Do you think the other keepers have been warned?:)

On a serious note, it's an overdue appointment and credit to JC and JB for pulling it off. If we're now in a position to add to the coaching staff, presumably the powers that be are confident tha funds are in place...

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The thing is Charlie Barnett is a great signing for Accy! It looks like his attitude at clubs have let him down , e.g of that is Tranmere and the post above!

The reason why its a great signing is because we have such determined and very down to earth, strict, football minded, get the best out of a player managing staff in John and Jimmy!

They wont take no s**t from Charlie and with the good reviews about how talented he is, this could be one of the signings of the summer for Accrington!

Great to see good signings coming to the club!!

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Great to see a few more names finally added to the squad list.

Fingers crossed with a couple of loan additions we could have a good season :)

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Bell: Accrington Stanley signing Barnett is coup (From Lancashire Telegraph)


This kid seems to really be a great signing, hope he lives up to it....

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think this lad will be a top signing, well done stanley.:)

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According to today's Telegraph we are under a new transfer embargo for an outstanding debt of £4500 to a Championship Club for a loan player in 2007. Stanley are disputing the amount but hope that it will be cleared up today.

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Today? - that's good, it usually takes a couple of weeks!

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If thats true, this should NOT be happening, its simple enough those 2 aint FIT to run a club.:mad:

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Who did they get in 2007 ? If it's Portsmouth or Leeds perhaps Stanley could offer them 10p in the pound :D

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Which player would that been:confused::confused: or club

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I presume it's Chris McGrail. The Preston North End kid who played a couple of times when on 'work experience' . Nearly got us a points deduction because of issues around his registration.

I don't think even Dave O'Neill can be blamed for this one.
It must be sorted by now or we wouldn't have been allowed to sign Leam Richardson this week.

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There's nowt on the LT website...yet. But two thoughts:

1) I can't see why we are placed under an embargo for what is essentially a disagreement between two clubs over a releatively small monetary amount. This is not a procedural point, such as the non-submission of accounts; it is simply a trading dispute.

2) But...talking of accounts..if the other club is right in the amount claimed by them, it means that despite going through all the headache of reopening the books and reworking the amounts due to creditors, the club and/or it's accountants have still not managed to get it right.

Maybe if we are under an embargo, then there is more to it than this.

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So we won't be able to register Leam Richardson for Saturday, despite finally agreeing a deal?

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It could have been one of the lads we had on loan from Cardiff around about then - if it is, maybe they're tring to recoup it so they can pay Motherwell some of what they owe them??
Leam did say after the Aldershot game that he'd agreed a deal but that the club still had to register him, now we understand why that couldn't be done - at this rate we're gonna be under a permanent embargo!

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Whilst I agree that articles in the Telegraph cannot always be taken at face value, they do claim to have got this information from the horses mouth, so to speak.
'Managing Director Dave O'Neill revealed the Reds attempts to register both players have been held up because of a new transfer embargo, enforced after c Championship club unexpectedly demanded the repayment of around 4,500 for the loan of a player in 2007.
Stanley, who have had three previous embargoes in the last 12 months dispute the claim but hope it will be resolved today'

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so why no announcement on the fishy site saying whats what n the reasons? aint rocket science, simple things such as that allay fears/rumours.:rolleyes:

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This is the only loan player i could find that we had from a championship side at the time Cardif winger Joe Jacobson joined november 2006 for 2months left stanley mid jan 07..

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I reckon stanleyhouse is nearer the mark.

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McGrail joins from Preston North End
John Coleman has secured the services of 17 year old Preston North End striker Chris McGrail on a one month 'work experience' loan deal. Chris, who has been on the bench twice for PNE this season, will be available for selection for our home match against Mansfield on Tuesday evening.

:(Not for £4500 specialy when he was on a 'work experience' loan deal..more likely the cardif player:)

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Squad news ( Tuesday 21st Aug 2007 )
http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/ball.gifhttp://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/line.gif
McGrail signs six month loan deal
preston North End striker Chris McGrail has joined Stanley on a six month loan deal. The 18 year old spent time here at the Fraser Eagle Stadium on work experence last season while he was a trainee at Deepdale, however he signed a professional contract over the summer and preston manager Paul Simpson is keen for him to get first team experience.

Still more likely?

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I have been in business for five years and always file my account on time, the only reason for not getting them in on time is because they are hiding things as long as pos

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:) i a gree wages over 6 month's probley £4500

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I would suggest that IF we are infact under yet another embargo you would be correct in thinking that. :eek::eek::eek:

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:( Well Alan!.. Unless its been sorted then no Alan is the simple answer pal:( But do keep the faith;)

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If it is Preston it sounds like they are so skint they are checking down the back of the sofa for a few coppers. Poor things :D

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Right am i being thick or what? Leam played fer reserves tonight! or does it not apply to those games?:confused:

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Think anybody can play in reserve games. They often have trialists playing

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:)More like they've heard stanley are having a bit of a doo next wednesday night and want there cut:rolleyes:

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If so it seems odd to me, a trialist aint the same as a contracted player.

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It was Preston according to t'Telegraph. It's now been paid and there's a plausible explanation as well at
Stanley pay Preston to lift embargo (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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"It had been agreed between Eric Whalley and Derek Shaw (the former Deepdale chairman) that the matter would be left on the shelf so to speak but they have now been taken over and the new chairman demanded it back.”

Didn't think, with the dawn of Better Management and 'Transparency' that 'The Shelf' still existed Mike!....wonder what other Embargo-bearing Skeletons are still lying thereon ??.

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Thats the real question= "What Else"?:eek: