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Observer reports that both Ray Putterill and Andy Parkinson have agreed deals ahead of the upcoming League Two campaign.

JC still in talks with Bateson,Jukes and Boulding.

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Really hope this is true. Putterill comes highly rated but Parkinson's experience could be invaluable to us. Would like to see Hessey & Boulding added. :)

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Lets be honest
the only benefit of signing andy parkinson is his experience, the guy leaves alot to be desired. Very much a journeyman.
Lets hope he finds a new lease of life under JC.

if this is the kind of signing we are able to attract, then 22nd place would be the equivelent of getting promotion.
This also points to the bigger picture - pay peanuts, you get monkeys. We have a chairman/owner who has gone on record saying he wont invest in the club. Thus, we will never be able to attract a better standard of player.
Of course we will be hoping JC picks up some rough diamonds, but we cant rely on JC's eye for talent alone, some proven quality would be welcome.
If coleman has not picked up any hidden gems, then it will be one long season.

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Just out of interest, have you changed your mind about boycotting home matches?

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I think thats very unfair Dav to be honest.

Just look at players like Symes, Grant etc, they where nothing before Coley worked his magic on them last season.

In regards Putterill and Parkinson, who cares what they have done before they played for Stanley??? Not me, its about what they do FROM NOW ON that we are concerned with.

Whilst I agree DON is a fool, and is woefully out of his depth in terms of experience and finances that doesnt mean you should slag off our new signings before you have even seen them play.

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I'm wi smudgie on this, lets be seeing em play a few games, before commenting on what they can or can't do.

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Not much chance of Davo doing that!

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: fer once NO COMMENT.:D;)

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I usually agree with dav :)

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U cant compare andy parkinson who is tried and tested and over 30 with bobby grant who came through our youth set up.

Just like when we signed john miles and i raised concerns, i have watched enough of parkinson to know he neuer lasts 90mins, struggles physically to compete and his passing isnt the best.
On the plus size he has a decent shot, a good turn of pace and isnt scared to run at defenders.

The point im making is we are signing players who nobody else wants, who have poor track records and no re-sale value.

And wynonie still hasnt provided an effective way to protest against O'neill

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Talk of promotion this year has always been dream talk. This is the first season we are operating within budget and our budget doesn't allow for League 2 football. Make no mistake this season is about survival, enjoy the ride and if we stay up great, if not we've made a damn good account of ourselves these last few years.

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Quite funny that we have/agreed to sign Parkinson. On our way up to Darlo last season, we stopped off at a services and me and Jase spotted a few gateshead players. We spotted him and jase said 'thats the lad who played for Tranmere' after a few moments thought I shouted 'Andy Parkinson' we had a little chat with him and said you should play for stanley. for that I am going to personally credit myself and Jase for the signing of Parkinson :) :)...

I think its a good signing.

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I'd personally say that promotion aspirations are a "pipe dream" at this juncture. The main aim HAS to be survival. Coley has again had to work within increasingly tightened means.:(

The fact that the club are under yet another embargo hasn't helped Coleman acquire the players he'd probably want. In fact i'm amazed he (and Bell) has had the perseverance to put up with working under such constraints.....again.:confused:

Let's not forget that there have been bigger jobs than managing Stanley, and they have been....and gone in the last twelve months. I'm thankfull we've men at the helm in Coley & Bell, who are prepared to put up with such....rubbish (and I could have used much stronger words to describe the running of the club;and this comment has no refelction/ bearing or connection with Ilyas or Mr Marsden;and would not take a rocket scientist who those comments are aimed at) and are trying their guts out to try to keep the club moving forward within the means they have at their disposal.:o

It would have been easier to jump ship and go to Bradford, Stockport or Shrewsbury, should they have been offered their managers / assistants positions.:eek:

So In the essence of this post Dav, I've not seen any pre-season games and like you am extremely disgruntled by the present situation with O'Neill and Heys. I personally wouldn't trust neither of them to run me a bath, let alone the club.:mad:

However I'm prepared to reserve judgement on players like Parkinson until I've seen him in the flesh. You never know, Parkinson, and the likes of the lad from Macc may just have the experience to help us through what looks like a hard season.:confused:

After all, Coley signed players like Marsh and Cook who were way beyond what many considered were their better days; and both went on to be astute and quality signings.:)

And one final fact. These lads actually want to play for Stanley.You can use the arguement that nobody else would want them, but with a lack of money available, Coley is hardly going to sign worldbeaters is he??? :eek:

Unlike the likes of Miles and Kempson. Regardless of what the club are going to pay the new lads, that speaks volumes to me. I'd sooner have players who are prepared to try and make it at this level and our club, than lads who are prepared to take the easy route out; and drop a level to a money laden club like Fleetwood or Grimsby.I'd sooner have players determined to prove their worth and fight for the cause, and that to me is SURVIVAL:(

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I also agree with Smudgie, we have to give them a chance. Whilst I also am under impressed with most of the names we have been linked with, I am not on my own in remembering how I felt this time last year about the woeful signing of injury prone, 10 club, barndoor missing MICHAEL SYMES and how wrong I - and 1 or 2 other were about that!!!! :o :D :D

In Coley, we must trust. :)

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Unlike the likes of Miles and Kempson. Regardless of what the club are going to pay the new lads, that speaks volumes to me. I'd sooner have players who are prepared to try and make it at this level and our club, than lads who are prepared to take the easy route out; and drop a level to a money laden club like Fleetwood or Grimsby.I'd sooner have players determined to prove their worth and fight for the cause, and that to me is SURVIVAL:(



Tad unfair on Kempo (and to an extent Milesy) Kempo was happy to play for Stanley, but how many of us can a££ord to put enjoyment at work, over paying the bills??

:) :) :)

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So, should we do what you're planning to do and what you want the rest of us to do? Not turn up to any home matches and not buy any merchandise, effectively depriving the club of a large chunk of income and probably killing it.

Well, that's certainly an effective way to protest against O'Neill, as he'll have no club to run. Unfortunately, we'll also have no club to watch. Yep, pretty effective, Davo. :rolleyes:

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Perhaps it's a bit hypocritical of me to wade in here, as I don't get to may matches these days, but to me a boycott is what you do if your club is run by crooks (Chester) and there's no other way to get them out (it's ok mods, Vaughan was convicted). As far as I can tell, DO'N is merely out of his depth and as it's pretty obvious that he can't make money out of Stanley, boycotting isn't going to make much difference to him except perhaps in status. It will, however, make a great difference to those who work for the club (many of whom could then lose their jobs) and to those who care about the club's continuing survival at football league level, or perhaps at any level.

If you choose not to go to matches, fair enough. It's your money and you can spend it where and how you like. A fair few posters on here don't go to games for various reasons. For my part I live too far away and am involved in football here on matchdays. However, please don't make the mistake of thinking that your "boycott" is a remotely effective way of punishing O'Neill or that the club won't suffer disproportionately as a result.

And on that note, I should probably check whether my mum and dad have renewed their season tickets.

Back to topic, I wish all the new signings the best of luck. Journeyman or not, in a young squad I think that Parkinson's experience could be invaluable at the tougher end of the season. Now all we need is for that embargo to be lifted. (Next week?).

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once again, wynonie is quick to criticise others but offers no alternative.
Its comical.

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Here is an alternative. Support the team, turn up at the games and voice your protest to O'Neill.

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Michael Symes is a journeyman :)

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Here's an alternative:

When the players have finished warming up and are in the dressing room the Ultras chant "O'Neill out!" then when the players walk out unveil a huge banner across from the "directors box" saying O'Neill out. This way we support the team and still voice our disapproval.

:alright:

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Exactly!!!!

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So, Davo, let's have a look at the alternatives:

1) My way: robustly criticize O'Neill, but carry on supporting Coley and the lads playing in the football league.

2) Your way: boycott home matches, don't buy merchandise and starve the club of funds, leading inevitably to its demise, throwing some good people out of work as Bedreds says, and leaving us with no Stanley.

I know which I'd prefer.

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Agreed with Wyonie for once :)

AS much as a hate those 2 idiots running things down there we simply cant stop supporting Coley & The Players

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Thats my view also seeing as Murder is n offence.:D

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to be completely honest looking at the trialists and how they have performed i am more than happy and the future season is looking a lot brighter than it was 2 weeks ago and i for one cannot wait for Aldershot and thankfully will not be bumping into dav007 who may as well stand in the coppice end for all of his support for OUR CLUB

IN JOHN AND JIMMY WE TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The biggest message u could send o'neill is an empty stadium. Just like the glazers and hicks .& gillette, verbal chants, protests, banners and emailing and phoning their businesses each and every day has had no effect.

Listen to the words of James of S0S 'the biggest stumbling block to removing the owners are the fans who continue to purchase merchandise, LFC tv subscriptions and attend home games'.

Its all about money and status with these men, an empty stadium with no cash coming in will send the clearest message.

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An empty stadium with no money coming in results in padlocks on the gates - oh why are we bothering, you just don't get it, do you?

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Believe me, Chimer, myself and a few others on here have had first hand experience of an empty stadium with no cash coming in and we know that it means just one thing...a defunct football club. :(

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The few others include me Mr H :(

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Sorry, Chimer, didn't put it very well there. I was actually directing my post at Davo and including your name on the list of longterm Stanley fans who witnessed the death throes at Peel Park. :o

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you just dont get it

If oneill is the chairman/owner, he can not afford to let stanley go bust as it will have a detrimental effect on his other businesses and his ability to run them.
It would force him to sell up or at least sell half of his share ownership to an investor.

We al want an owner/chairman with the ability to cover the clubs short comings, invest in the clubs long term goals and improve the stadium infastructure.

You think its achievable by protest with banners and songs - I agree this will have an effect but will not be enough.
I believe the greatest effect is to starve him of the 2 things he wants, money and status.
So why not do both, have banners and chants at away games highlighting the problem, and leave him with an empty stadium at home games.
He will soon get the message.
Its your call, I respect your decision.

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That I agree with. But there's no evidence that any such person exists who has the resources and wants to take it on. And if I had the resources, I wouldn't invest them in a club with no visible home support.

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Touche Chimer, nice one :)

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You make it all sound so easy, but I'm sure the reality would be a lot more messy and complicated than that and we're simply not prepared to take risks with our beloved club. We've lost it once, we don't want to do it again.

Apart from that, there's the little question of the effect it'll have on the team. Can you imagine how their morale will suffer, playing in a largely empty stadium with the only noise coming from a couple of hundred away fans on the Coppice End? Can you imagine Coley's and Jimmy's reaction to all this?

Davo, face it, you're flogging a dead horse. There are some fans who are staying away because of O'Neill and that's their right, but the majority of us will be there next season. And it's not through any support for O'Neill, it's because we support Coley and the lads and the club!

I was hoping you'd change your mind, but I can see that I'm banging my head against a brick wall, so carry on with your boycott...at least it'll give you a chance to catch up with all those little jobs around the house. ;)

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Its not easy, neither is siting back and watching the club go into a state of stagnation.

If we are to live within a new budget and break even, it wil be increadibly hard to stay up.
Especially with a chairman who will not put his own money into the club.

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That is true, at the same time though my opinion is Coley deserves support fer what he has acheived in virtually impossible circumstances, can't see he gets much off those 2, so deserves better off us.

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That's it...says it in a nutshell for me.

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I think you may just be wrong on this point, it is widely known that Man Utd have put up for sale 5,000 season tickets. Yet the club supposedly has a book with over 60,000 people waiting for a season ticket. i.e. 12 people for every 1 ticket. Not an empty stadium, because that will never happen at United. Accrington Stanley cannot afford to have only an away crowd. The loss of revenue would lead to another 1963, which as others have said they remember only to well (and I am another one of them). It must not be allowed to happen again EVER. Ilyas Khan has said he trusts our managing director and CEO so why don't you. Yes they have made mistakes and continue to disagree on certain points e.g. accounts! but we have to live with this situation unless someone comes in with a cool couple of million, which I do not have unless I come up on the lottery tonight and even then I don't believe I would have enough funding for the club.:confused:

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I'm not convinced that these are the 2 things he wants.

If we take money first of all, surely even he must know that there is no money to be obtained by being Chairman (or whatever) of ASFC. None of the Dragons would support such a hopeless cause.

I don't think he wants status either. If he did, he would behave quite differently. He would be open and honest and thus gain the respect of the fans. That would be a huge start in acquiring status.

We rated Ilyas because he saved the club financially. But we rated him also because he was open and honest. Transparency disappeared when he ceased to be formally involved with the club.

If David O'Neill wants status, all he has to do for starters is to tell it as it is. Once we can trust his words, maybe then we can see him making positive moves to do the things that have to be done - and at the right time, before they become overdue and thus lead to yet another crisis.

Having said that I don't think he wants money or status, I really don't know what he does want.

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Come on fellas, there are lots of "slag off the chairman" threads. This one was supposed to be about a couple of signings.:p

And on that subject, i went to Northwich today and saw a promising performance from Putterill as well. The other trialists on view all had good games also, particularly the Centre half (No.5) and the right back (No.2)

It's only pre-season but i think the team/squad is shaping up quite nicely. Some of the slick passing football today was excellent. What a decent ground the Vics have as well.

Good day, enjoyed it. roll on Haig Ave on tuesday night.:)

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That was my point really, that many of the threads end up with the same discussion. Sometimes it's good to read a positive thread.

And there's plenty to be positive about. Stanley are about to embark on another season in the football League. That's "The Football league", not the Evo-Stik league or the House builders federation league. Just being here is success, staying here equals more success and pushing for a top 7 finish would be just fantastic.

The squad will be full of players with a point to prove, the manger is top notch and still as keen as mustard to succeed at the Crown Ground and the new pitch should hopefully mean no blank weekends in January and February.

Amazing what a 3-0 away win at Northwich Victoria does for my confidence, that and another pint of kronenberg!!:D

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personally prefer beer to lager, but cheers for the tonic of a positive post Larry - makes me forget for a time the worries we still have just under the surface.

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Boulding and BAteson have both agreed to sign according to todays Bellylaugh


Coleman wants to add more to Stanley (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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If he's looking to keep Stanley alive he wants to win the lottery, that's what he wants.

But I'm with Larry on this. If we can't be optimistic in July, then life does become a little depressing.
By the way, Larry, do you have any aquatic connections with the psychic octopus? Could you raise your claw if you think Stanley will get past the 3rd round this season and I'll nip (:o) down to the bookies.

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Given the glowing report of JC on the P & P intended signings, I wonder why they are only proposing 6 month contracts ?
Any whispers up yon about a possible return on loan of the Leeds lad, Lees ?

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anyone know what's happening with Jukes?

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Length of contract does not matter if Stanley have options to keep them for longer.

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Depends which side of the fence yer on Haggis, would guess most players would want longer n 6 months.;)

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Credit where it's due: Ultras provide great service for Parkinson - Accrington Observer

Well done, Ultras! :)

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Superb from the ultras!!!

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Just hope they bump into "Torres" at the services next season.:);)

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knowing our luck it'll be Heskey!

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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haha!!!

I was there aswell I think, Darlo away.

Shocker of a game ! Worth the trip though :D

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Could I ask the ultras to "surround" DON next time they see him and get him to stop lying to the fans? Just a thought lol.

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Now that is asking the impossible, even fer the ultras.:D;)

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Looks like he will be back at the Crown Ground next season........... in a Bury shirt :rolleyes:

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Good job Parkinson was non-contract, otherwise the football league would be charging the Ultras with making an unofficial approach for a player :rofl38: