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emileheskeysdad 09-08-2010 22:32

Telegraph
 
More negativity from the local rag!

Accrington Stanley look to cure their pitch pain (From Lancashire Telegraph)

DAV007 10-08-2010 00:59

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Not really, just pointing out the facts.
Its O'neill who gave the negative comments to them.

yonmon 10-08-2010 06:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emileheskeysdad (Post 835502)

This critique from the esteemed provincial Newspaper which you have the gall to describe as 'the local rag'...
has already been well posted by The Bard of The Ribble Valley..'Mab', and discussed at some length (and depth !) in the excellent thread entitled 'Pitch' !...(This Title does offer some clue to users of our Forum as to it's contents, which are suitable for viewers of all ages and those of nervous dispositions!).
(ps...Cashman has exhorted us all to ignore the 'crap'...his words not mine !.which appears in The Lancashire Telegraph, or in kinder vein to 'take it 'with a pinch of salt'...perhaps these are pearls of wisdom to which we should all pay some heed ??)..

(pps...And there was not one mention of 'Stanley Hope'!).

Wynonie Harris 10-08-2010 07:32

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Let's face it, Mr Y, the press will put the most sensationalist "doom and gloom" slant possible on the story, because that's what journos do. They had a willing co-conspirator in the Shots manager who was desperately searching for excuses as to why his promotion hopefuls couldn't get the better of the bookies' relegation favourites. Coley seems fairly relaxed about it, so that's good enough for me.

Of course, this problem wouldn't have cropped up if the football authorities had agreed to switch the match. Funny how they seem to bend over backwards for the big clubs, isn't it? :rolleyes:

lancsdave 10-08-2010 07:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 835523)
Of course, this problem wouldn't have cropped up if the football authorities had agreed to switch the match. Funny how they seem to bend over backwards for the big clubs, isn't it? :rolleyes:


Switch it or postpone it ? :confused:

The article contradicts itself. No way could a game be switched with 24 hours notice, thats why FA cup replays no longer take place a few days after the original match. The police have the biggest say.:eek:

There have been a few occasions where everybody on here has gone ballisitic because the referee has postponed the match due to the state of the pitch. If the pitch wasn't fit then the referee wouldn't have played the game ;)

Maybe the contractors should be sued, the pitch was perfectly playable when the Observer came out last week :D

cashman 10-08-2010 08:10

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compared to some played last season, pitch was playable on sat.

lancsdave 10-08-2010 08:17

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They just have to hope for the right weather for it to bed in a bit.

Long time red 10-08-2010 08:30

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I think that the playing surface compared to say the Stevenage pitch (as seen on TV last night) looked and played poorly. The money spent by the club should have ensured that we have a good surface to play on. Drains taking time to bed in seems strange buy hey who knows. For sure the Whinney Hill side looked dead. but the time scale and East Lancs weather was always going to play a big part.
As for Kevin Dillon the bloke is a P-----k so his comments should be disregarded.

Wynonie Harris 10-08-2010 08:38

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...but then again, Coley is not and his comments are thus: “But I think it will be all right. I think in a couple of weeks you’ll see a different pitch.” :)

yonmon 10-08-2010 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 835531)
...but then again, Coley is not and his comments are thus: “But I think it will be all right. I think in a couple of weeks you’ll see a different pitch.” :)

We must find someone to do the opposite of a 'Raindance'
Wyn !!....don't know what it's called though...maybe a Sunbeam Dance ?....can't think of a suitable song to dance it to though !....

(Any answers ??).

jaysay 10-08-2010 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 835531)
...but then again, Coley is not and his comments are thus: “But I think it will be all right. I think in a couple of weeks you’ll see a different pitch.” :)

Its was probably the pitch that scuppered any chance of Stanley making the play offs last term

Wynonie Harris 10-08-2010 09:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 835540)
We must find someone to do the opposite of a 'Raindance'
Wyn !!....don't know what it's called though...maybe a Sunbeam Dance ?....can't think of a suitable song to dance it to though !....

(Any answers ??).

I'm thinking of making a sacrifice to Inti, the Inca Sun God, to bring fine weather for the next fortnight. The cat is looking nervous. ;)

yonmon 10-08-2010 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 835542)
Its was probably the pitch that scuppered any chance of Stanley making the play offs last term

I agree J.. But that wasn't 'Ilyas's Pitch' was it ??

Whalley Red 10-08-2010 09:37

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Few more snippets from today's Telegraph:

Coley considering centre-back (a Liverpudian, of course!) - Accrington Stanley weigh up move for Hoddle Academy starlet (From Lancashire Telegraph)

The DON is clearly not too worried about the state of the pitch (relative to the income generated) as he has agreed to let Burnley play their first three reserve team games at the Crown Ground, starting next Tuesday!

Clarets reserves to play at Turf Moor and Accrington Stanley (From Lancashire Telegraph)

yonmon 10-08-2010 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emileheskeysdad (Post 835502)

Found this image in a Journalism Blog which I visit now and again !....perhaps he's the one who reports on the ups and downs at The Crown ?....
But I couldn't think of a suitable caption .....


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fzq94YVbHH...k_fails_35.jpg

Gribbster 11-08-2010 16:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emileheskeysdad (Post 835502)

who cares, telegraph is crap anyways :)

yonmon 19-08-2010 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gribbster (Post 836283)
who cares, telegraph is crap anyways :)

But today's website is interesting !!.....

"ILYAS Khan is scheduled to confirm his resignation as Accrington Stanley chairman at a board meeting after Saturday’s home game against Macclesfield – but managing director Dave O’Neill is unsure how the meeting will pan out.
Khan said last month that he would step down as chairman at the next board meeting but O’Neill, currently in charge of day-to-day affairs and the most likely man to become chairman, was cautious when asked to predict the likely outcome of the gathering.
Khan is understood to still have concerns about elements of the agreement for O’Neill to finally take over the club from Eric Whalley, which had been held up pending clarification of loans owed to Whalley. That clarification came closer with the finalisation of the club’s 2008/09 accounts last month.
“There is a lot going on in the background,” said O’Neill.
“Ilyas did say he was going to stand down. We had no contact with him over the summer but we have now got contact.
“I don't know what will happen at the meeting.
“The takeover from Eric is coupled with the accounts, but Ilyas is not happy with one or two issues.”

Anyone care to hazard a guess ??


AccyMad 19-08-2010 11:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 838222)
But today's website is interesting !!.....

"ILYAS Khan is scheduled to confirm his resignation as Accrington Stanley chairman at a board meeting after Saturday’s home game against Macclesfield – but managing director Dave O’Neill is unsure how the meeting will pan out.
Khan said last month that he would step down as chairman at the next board meeting but O’Neill, currently in charge of day-to-day affairs and the most likely man to become chairman, was cautious when asked to predict the likely outcome of the gathering.
Khan is understood to still have concerns about elements of the agreement for O’Neill to finally take over the club from Eric Whalley, which had been held up pending clarification of loans owed to Whalley. That clarification came closer with the finalisation of the club’s 2008/09 accounts last month.
“There is a lot going on in the background,” said O’Neill.
“Ilyas did say he was going to stand down. We had no contact with him over the summer but we have now got contact.
“I don't know what will happen at the meeting.
“The takeover from Eric is coupled with the accounts, but Ilyas is not happy with one or two issues.”

Anyone care to hazard a guess ??

No - but I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting;)

Stanleymad 19-08-2010 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 838224)
No - but I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting;)

Wouldn't we all :D:hidewall:

Tealeaf 19-08-2010 11:49

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Assuming that on this occaision the LT has correctly reported Mr O'Neil's words - quote “The takeover from Eric is coupled with the accounts, but Ilyas is not happy with one or two issues.” - then I can only guess that this is Mr O'Neils usual understatement (to be diplomatic) of the true state of affairs.

I quote again, this time from what is surely an exasperated Expatriate's thread on community ownership:

“I do hope that the current management of the club in the form of Mr Heys and Mr O'Neil…” (Post #1)

“i think we ought to really go for it, but in a systematic and clear sighted way. putting ownership and governance to one side, and then hiring decent day to day management is the key in my view…”(Post#14)

The key words are highlighted in red. It should not be to difficult to reach a conclusion as to what the "one or two issues" are to be discussed at the meeting. One suspects a full and frank exchange of opinion, plus a few other things.

JEFF 19-08-2010 12:55

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Quote:

“The takeover from Eric is coupled with the accounts, but Ilyas is not happy with one or two issues.”
Probably something to do with the supposed "loans" that EW made to the Club. If Ilyas hadn't have stepped in last year, the Club would have folded and EW would not have got a penny. He is now probably wanting re-payment of these "loans". If he does then it's goodbye to the TV money from the Newcastle game

Fourth official 19-08-2010 13:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 838235)
Probably something to do with the supposed "loans" that EW made to the Club. If Ilyas hadn't have stepped in last year, the Club would have folded and EW would not have got a penny. He is now probably wanting re-payment of these "loans". If he does then it's goodbye to the TV money from the Newcastle game


Thought the family gambling debts had been paid!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes: and still wants alledged loans repaying !!

expatriate 19-08-2010 19:11

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i find the telegraph article odd. I will not comment on the editor or writer, as my opinion of that newspaper are very clear when it comes to ASFC. However i will comment on the factual statement they attribute to Oneil about contact over summer. I just checked my laptop and there are over 20 emails between Mr ONeil and myself from july 1st till now, and probably double that if one counts correspondence with Rob Heys and other members of the club. The suggestion that there has been no contact is not only misleading, but factually incorrect.

There is a board meeting on Saturday, and its one that ought to have been held a couple of weeks ago. The agenda for that meeting is something that Mr O'Neil has put together and I have agreed. Peter Marsden will also attend, and I can ensure that any decisions that are taken will be clearly communicated.

However I will also say that the game against Newcastle is the core and key priority right now for everyone at the club, and board meeting or no board meeting, I would like to take this opportunity of thanking you all in advance for the brilliant and awe inspiring way you and all fans are getting behind the team.

Ilyas

Tealeaf 19-08-2010 19:20

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Just a quickie Ilyas...would I be right in saying that a board meeting would have been neccessary to approve the '09 accounts prior to submission (yeah, I know...it's the 2010 A/Cs that are important).

expatriate 19-08-2010 19:47

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its a technicality, but the accounts needed to be signed off by a director, and that signing given its importance, could only be done with board awareness (normally a board meeting). in this case all members of the board were involved, but i was particularly involved in a detailed discussion and review with the independent auditors. As you are aware Pierce work for the company, not for the directors, and their purview was the focus of my calls. David O Neil signed the accounts once we had agreed the verbiage, but I think my previous bulletin board comments also noted that the 09/10 accounts will be the key statement.

Just one other point about the telegraph piece - I really dont know if Mr Oneil actually said that, or whether he was quoted out of context. I have not been in Accy since mid JUly, and the board meeting that was scheduled for that time was cancelled due to the untimely death of my aunt (the lady who lived in Stanhill Hall). IT would therefore be correct that I have not actually been at the ground since mid July (i went up to buy a top but did not run into Mr Oneil or Rob), and that is perhaps what was meant by the comment. Either way, its not just a mere detail and hence my desire to correct the impression.

Ilyas

Mr T 19-08-2010 19:59

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Ilyas,

As always THANK YOU

Thanks for this clarification:)

MikeA 25-08-2010 06:57

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According to The Telegraph we're now
ACCRINGTON STANLEY FOOTBALL FLUB:
Accrington Stanley news, match reports, photo galleries, emails and away guide

but I'll bet they change it when they read Accy Web!

Exile on Spencer St 25-08-2010 11:40

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Flub is about all you get in the LET.


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