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Has anyone seen the auction instructed by HMRC in the Observer.
Selling 1600 seats, floodlights, board room furniture, pa system plus many
Others.........WTF IS HAPPENING?

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This ain't a wind up is it :eek:

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Its true, get yourself a copy of the Observer.

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How do u know it's Stanley for sure :confused:

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Er Stanley have 2000 seats, board room furniture - ur aving a laff, floodlights - how many? Put the link up so we can all see it.

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Because it says under instructions from the HMRC Accrington Stanley FC Ltd ....... its all very clear.
pm me your mobile number and I will mms you the article.

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Can't post a link, the paper is in my hand I am reading it.

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If it is in the Observer, there won't be an online link available until tomorrow.

P'raps this fella works for the paper; trying to shift some units on a day where the LET is getting all our attention :D

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There was talk of them putting restraints on stuff last week. All seems very odd that they would auction the stuff before winding the club up ?

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Who is the agent for it ?

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C W Harrison

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Oh shine it's true :( auction wed 9th march at the crown oh my :(

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It does say 'unless previously arranged' and it's not listed on the companies website. Maybe it's been sorted ?

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what page is this?

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What page?

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Page 32

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Surely this is some sort of elaborate wind-up (excuse the pun).

Wouldn't this mean that we're in administration?

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I'm gonna buy me a pylon...

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They missed the most current valuable asset anyway, sand :)

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no wonder whalleys gone so quick

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The boardroom furniture would look nice in my dinning room.

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So much for Rob's claims last week saying we only owe HMRC 1 months tax - yeah right! What the hell is going on????

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Oh I would love those chairs my dining room needs fair balance :)

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I'll bid a fiver for H143!!!!

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As a certain Mr McEnroe once said:

YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS!!!

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Just had a PM from C W Harrison.......

I have to bid for all 1600!!!

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Quote from Fishy site:

Auction advert in local press

Accrington Stanley is aware of an advert in the local press regarding a public auction of a number of the club's assets.

This relates to our month nine HMRC payment of around £32,000 that was due on 22nd January. It is no secret that we have had problems with our cashflow due to several postponed matches and with two of our major sponsors going into liquidation, and for this reason the bill was not paid on time.

We have paid a total of £23,000 of the debt, the remaining amount will be paid on Monday and the auction will not go ahead.

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Off the ASFC website


Auction advert in local press
Accrington Stanley is aware of an advert in the local press regarding a public auction of a number of the club's assets.

This relates to our month nine HMRC payment of around £32,000 that was due on 22nd January. It is no secret that we have had problems with our cashflow due to several postponed matches and with two of our major sponsors going into liquidation, and for this reason the bill was not paid on time.

We have paid a total of £23,000 of the debt, the remaining amount will be paid on Monday and the auction will not go ahead.

Transparency ??

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Do we assume Feb's payment is due on the 22nd :rolleyes:

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Correct

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Find it hard to believe that HMRC would employ a company to sell off some of our assets for a debt under ten grand.

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Was arranged weeks ago though, but as KSH pointed out will they back this week ?

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I'm well confused.

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It has to be weeks ago if its in the Observer.

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Could even be 2009 :D

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Yet another embarrassment.

When will it stop?

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plus February`s payment which will undoubtedly be late.

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A payment is not classed late untill it is 28days late

I would think when the taxman asked how are ASFC going to make up the late payment ASFC couldnt answer as Ilyas and his team were still working on the shares issues etc....so the auction was set for the 9th march since then board room matters have be sorted money matters sorted the best they could etc....

Do you think if we were in admin Ilyas would of not stated this and if were under threat of be auctioned off he would kept quiet?

Ilyas has said the club is safe we should have faith he has never let us down before

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assuming that the auction went ahead,then surely the ground would not be up to league standard. would this mean game cancellations and income drying up again?

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The way the Observer is these days, I wouldn't be surprised if they got us mixed up with Rochdale FC

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Yes, they would still go ahead. It just means everybody would have to stand up (inc boardroom staff), fetch a torch for the night matches, not be able to give away signed shirts and borrow Karl's megaphone for the half time announcements ;)

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Well, I think I've just committed myself to pay £800 for the seats,(They'll look well on my decking) so, that leaves the rest of you to find £9200 for the board room stuff & the pylons.....

What I want to know, who will bid for Eric's head on a pole???

(Sorry, Eric, I worked next to you at EE in 1964, wouldn't really wish you any harm!)

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My stars , I didn't see that coming. Ilyas did say we have been very patient and to be patient a bit longer ??????? I wonder if he knows whats going on.

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Surely if they are bringing torches, they may be giving away
SINGED shirts!

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Right guys, I've had a bit of fun on this thread, cannot believe you are SO SERIOUS!

Hopefully not offended any of you by appearing so flippant with my posts, but we all need to remember JC's tag line

KEEP THE FAITH!

IK will see us through, I am sure.

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Time for bed now, night night!!

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Can you honestly see anyone paying money for that soddin' PA system??!!

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eh ?

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Ha ha ha!!! Quality response!!!:D

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I should think the beer barrels in the club house won't attract any bidders should they go under the hammer. ;) Although there is always a demand for laxatives and rat poison. :)

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I'm glad somebody got it :D

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Sorry, didn't quite catch that.

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Would Dave's missus care to moderate this thread as us deffuns don't like the way it is going??!!:D

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Why does it always take an uproar on a forum to make them write something on the website in response... why cant they just put it anyway??????

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Article in this mornings Bellylaugh reports 'Stanley Windfall' will help to meet tax bill.

They have received the 20k from Scunthorpe for Bobby Grant's appearances. Not sure if this was part of the 23k paid or it's next months

I feel totally scammed by this. I saw the billboard and was curious, 43p for a paper thinner than a Kleenex tissue :eek::D

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Should've waited for the article to come on line Dave but on the bright side, if you tear it into nice little squares you could hang it on the tardis loo in case anyone gets caught short on a Monday or Wednesday :)

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Excellent point it got my back up more for that reason :(

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Good idea :D

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Surely if any assets are to be auctioned off the bailiff's must have been round to count and value these assets. The statement on the official site says that the auction is off but it does not tell us how it was arrived at in the first place. Rob Heys made a statement the other week stating that everything was under control, surely he knew about this auction then.

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Probably so jeff, but was statement he made before the postponements? that could have a bearing? step back a min n think,the fact a statement like this is on fishy, fer my money is a first? so i think things are slowly goin in the right way, hope club have the nous to include it in next weeks beano, thus explaining to a wider public.;)

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The Club statement also states that "two of our major sponsors going into liquidation". Who are the two major sponsors that have gone into liquidation ?

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was on here other day somewhere jeff, combined stabilization was one forget the others name.:)

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The sad part about all this is that ultimately it's the club that is paying the bailiffs and auctioners by way of penalties levied by HMRC. That's money that the club can ill afford and that could be much better spent in other more positive ways. Paying other creditors, for instance.

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I know Combined Stabilization went into liquidation that is one major sponsor, but who is the other major sponsor that has gone into liquidation ?

The Club must have known that this auction was happening because if HMRC is unwilling to accept a business's proposal for a "time to pay" arrangement they can move into a process called "destraint" where a company’s assets can be seized and sold at public auction. This process can force a business to close down. The Club's assets must have been seized for them to be put into an auction. This hasn't happened overnight, officers of HMRC or bailiffs must have been to the ground to list the saleable assets and must have been shown around the ground by someone.

It's about time we had everything out in the open and a new start with new people controlling the Club, have a share issue to hopefully raise some money and then re-gain the local business's trust to get games sponsored and maybe the ground sponsored.

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Tradewinds or whatever they were called, the people who do the perimeter advertising boards. I think it's about 5k lost

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they are the 1s i think.....did anyone notice alot of advertising boards had disappeared at tues game......the ones with the metal frames

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i would think so tbh we have no ground sponsor or shirt sponsor now so im guessing they are next on the list???

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i think the figure mentioned by Peter Shaw was £8k for Tradewinds and £35k for Combined Stabilisation. But these figures are only lost from the overall annual turnover not just the last few weeks as is intimated. Its a loss alright but it shows just how pitiful we have become when £43k (about 3% of our estimated AT) is considered our major sponsors.

And the next thing is why have we not learnt our lesson from the demise of Fraser Eagle? They went belly up having not paid us a penny (allegedly) of that years owings so how on earth has it happened again?

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Really good points well put Rob:)

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Beats me,aint time to think about it, am going swimming.:D

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is it OAP discount day again?

be like vegetable soup down there :eek:

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I think the other point to bear in mind is it is going to get harder & harder out there as Companies look to tighten there purse strings in the economic climate.

I would like to see more genuine partnerships not just in terms of revenue but interest grabbers in terms of profiles for both Club & Sponsors which will be dificult given the above and will be have to worked at really hard.

I notice in the local paper the Clarets are now offering tickets for games that can be obtained with Tesco Clubcard points, it may seem small but again the name crops up.

The business Club idea is another one at Accy that can be a cracking idea if worked upon and can bring people in from different businesses maybe lots of smaller one's whether it's for sponsorship or local know how, locality and business accumen brought together can work well for the Club & the Town in tying in a lot of things including raising the profile of those involved whilst sharing a wealth of ideas and expertise.

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i think all these partnerships and 'clubs' are more involving than we need.

we need their brass and hopefully they need our market. I'm not sure when these new fangled things became fashionable, or whether they even work, but we need to keep it really simple at the moment. IMHO

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I don't disagree Rob but trust has to be built especially now

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I've just had a horrible thought.

We signed Craney and Jacobson at the very end of January - the end of the transfer window. Yet my understanding of the league rules are that we can't sign anyone if we are behind on our payments to HMRC (due the 19th or 22nd, depending on payment method). We know we were late on making that payment, but I wonder when the destraint notice was issued? If it was sometime in the last week of January we could really be in some deep poo-poo with the FL and even without the destraint notice timing the FL may well be not very understanding.

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but technically you're not behind until after 28 dayss apparently, could be wrong though.

Greeny came up with a good idea on Facebook - maybe we could all buy something at 'the auction' and thus we have a community owned club!


'twould be funny to watch Ilyas bidding to buy everything for a nothingness price to 'hire' back to the club

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I don't know where that 28 days comes from. HMRC says you're behind if you ain't paid by the 19th or 22nd; I assume that the extra 28 days is a seperate football league ruling. Can anyone clarify?

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and it definately was not me on Facebook , it's over my head I'm afaraid.

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Yet another embarrassment.

And Heys says there is no crisis??

Absolute cack, Sling your hook along with messers Whalley and O Neill.

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According to the Telegraph the auction isn't officially off yet

Accrington Stanley vow to avert unpaid tax bill auction (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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my bad, i mistook you.


good job it wasn't an identity parade!

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So if the revenue from tomorrow's match is going to be used to pay off the remaining £9k, then if the game is cancelled, the auction goes ahead. I hope it's dry in Accy overnight! :eek:

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It's raining hard :(

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Was just thinking the same, god help.us if the game is called off. They want to use the gate monies to pay off the bill.

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Would the gate money pay the bill anyway ? Today's game is the freebie for anybody who bought 2 previous tickets, less season ticket holders. On a gate of about 1300 be lucky if the match income is much more than 10k, then there are expenses to come out.

The article ( if correct :rolleyes: ) says February tax bill will be paid by football league money, so whats going to pay the wages ?

somethings going to have to give pretty soon

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Correct, those two clowns with have to give - their resignations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I so wish the protest march was still on for today - at least we'd feel like we were doing something!

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Well said Valarian.

Im sick to the back teeth of them all.

If I was in charge they would all be banned from the ground.

No wonder Coley has finally had enough.

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Apart from gate money there will be programme sales ( don't know the profits ) merchandise , refreshments, maybe they bring in a fair bit . Lets be positive , we soon have a run of howm games too. Ilyas has said we all been patient but to be patient a bit longer, maybe, just maybe he knows what is happening .

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everyones sick of em smudge, but do you know summat we don't? regarding Coley?

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Ive heard its almost a done deal.............. :(

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In which case, it's almost a done deal that we'll lose the central spine of our team at the end of the season - Edwards, Ryan & Gornell will almost certainly follow Coley ... and on a free transfer :mad:

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But at least we will get some cash for Craney.... Oh and Coley!!!

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Correct Whalley.

Doesnt look good

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if taylor, mccall, and co can not get bradford out of this division what makes them think john can, strange in my view

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Because Coley is a football genius as well as JB

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Oh come on. John Coleman and Jimmy Bell are both on contracts, it was made very public.

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Contracts in football as we all know mean nothing.

ALL that matters is money / the price.

I.E How much Bradford will have to pay Stanley to buy Coley and JB out of theirs.

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The only use of a long-term contract is its value as a deterrent due to compensation costs. If Bradford are quite happy to pay, then we're buggered. What use is compensation money to us, especially when the gruesome twosome are still around? What's more, what self respecting manager would want to come work at our circus, especially when considering the probable situation that Whalley Red predicts; with our quality players all leaving. More and more each day I hope to see O'Neill's & Whalley's heads on pikes. Fingers crossed eh.