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Hi all
Match thread time...

Got your preview here - ASFC News Story > 3889

And a little sneaky peak at what's in tomorrow's programme - ASFC News Story > 3890

Dan

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Supporting from Qatar at the moment - don't suppose there's anyone else out here?

Come on Reds

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A bit early for The World Cup????? ;) :D :D

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message for Andy Proctor : while signing my prog pitchside after the final whistle at Torquay, you said to me " we should have won that, we should definately have won that". And you were right - keeper had no right to get to your last minute header. So they owe you bigtime, skip - make it an early one so you can goad your lads to match it !

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We still need payback for the Horrible away loss last season when we all went down for the weekend!!!

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Going to be Getting updates from palm beach Dubai

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well dont wander oer Libya way mate stay yon.:D

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Probably the same amount of sand

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So far, so good. Ref has been out again and seems happy enough. Torquay are here, and though it's mighty cloudy there is no rain...

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John Coleman has stuck with the side that defeated Crewe in midweek for this afternoon's game with Torquay.

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Stanley: Cisak, Winnard, Edwards, Hessey, Jacobson, Joyce, Procter, Ryan, Craney, Barnett, Gornell

Subs: Dunbavin, Long, Lindfield, Putterill, McConville, Murphy, Boulding

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We're off!

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Scrappy start and little to report

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Afternoon all ! Let's have a good un today Lads ! :D

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9: Jake Robinson crosses from the Torquay right and Zebroski heads it wide

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Billy Kee in the line up whats his recpetion been like

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Billy spent ten minutes when Torquay arrived shaking hands and being greeted by fans and staff. So a good reception!

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Bradford 1-0 up.

They may not need a new manager, after all.

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bradford 1 - 1 stockport.....


come on stockport!!!!

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32: Craig Stanley swings in a corner from the right and Mark Ellis heads towards goal - great save by Cisak

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37: Hessey clears off the line after a defensive mix up

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45: Torquay down to ten men - Mark Ellis red carded for clipping Gornell

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Half time 0-0

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bbc textcomm gives impression that attacking wise it's all Torquay - let's hope their sending off will see Stanley beginning to threaten 2nd half.

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Bit of a half time summary here - ASFC News Story > 3893

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Players coming back out...

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47: Edwards gallops forwards and shoots - Potter parries but it's cleared

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65: McConville on for Barnett

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C'mon STANLEY

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Football 365 says we haven't had a shot!!!

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BBC says we haven't had one on target.

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74: Craney denied by the keeper

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78: GOALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! Craney again. Superb!

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YESSSS - Craney

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That's more like it.

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Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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Get in there !!! at last:D

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Com e on lads, get another one in.........

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1 shot on target, 1 goal scored. I'll take that if its worth 3 points.

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Four mins added

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Cmon ref

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Looks grim for Stockport..

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All over 1-0

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well done boys just what the doctor ordered

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all over 1-0 Stanley!!!

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Good onya STANLEY

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Another win & 3 points, it's looking good, well done Lads. 13th

Thanks Dan.

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Three wins in a row, Get in!!!!!

Last time that happened, answers on a post-card.

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Still haven't predicted a score right all season but I don't care! Well done lads.

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Typical, craney does nowt for 80 mins then hits a cracker with his last touch of the match lol. A pretty dire game tbh but 3 points in the bag, well dug out red men.

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Well done Stanley. Gets me one of those days with a perfect hat-trick of results :D

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Cracker of a goal, scrappy game against a very solid defensive team - credit to the lads for grinding it out. Torquay won't let many in the way they play.

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got away wi it today big time, not the same team turned up as tuesday night, still stanley have played well n lost this season so i'll take the 3 pts happily.:D

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I honestly think it was more a case of Torquay not letting us play rather than us not playing well.

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3 things stood out today fer me

1. Top Class save Cisak- deserved MOM.
2. Great goal from Craney
3. Worst corner i ever seen- McConville

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Wasn't a great game, but 3 points. The pitch doesn't help though does it. How did the goalkeeper get the man of the match. He hardly touched the ball.

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dont begrudge it meself Bernard, that save was what kept us alive.;)

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He didn't have a lot do, but you're right Cashy, when he was needed he made the saves. Another point can somebody explain to me why we need the floodlights on from the start of the match. I'm sure there's an obvious explanation,but it just seems to be wasting money to me

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Match report - ASFC News Story > 3893

Coley - ASFC News Story > 3894

Sorry I dipped in and out today. Multitasking is tough when I'm flying solo. Terrific win though.

Dan

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Yes, you would have to question the wisdom of giving it to an AUSTRALIAN.:D

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Because it will be cheaper to buy them back, from the auction, if the bulbs have gone.

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Far from a classic as Cashy said chalk & cheese to Tuesday's game

But we ground out a result against a resillient Gulls side and kept a clean sheet and another cracker from Mr. Craney.

Three hard fought points keeps the momentum going against another one of the sides round & about us and we have now broken through the forty point barrier.

Hopefully the break of ten days till the next home game will give the pitch a chance to settle back down.

Good Stuff:)

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fantastic.



nine points from a tough looking nine points..


lets say for example that EW relents and the ownership issue is gone before the next home game - WHAT A BOOST THAT WILL BE. - and that will be worth another win to us!

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Got a great three points, wont say well earned. A poor first half performance and the sending off was the turning point as Torquay were the better side in the first half. Craney had a shocking game and then came up with a cracker of a goal. Felt we were lucky today. Not the best performance from Winnard or Hessey but Cisak made a couple of good saves and IMHO deserved MOM. Couldnt play their normal passing as pitch was like a sand pit.

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Don't agree. I don't think Torquay were better than us in any department. I thought the points were very well earned, and Craney wasn't half as bad as other posters have made out. Plenty of good football from the Reds, especially in the second half. It's often difficult to look good against 10 men who batten down the hatches, though why we kept 4 defenders on against their two up front was a bit frustrating. Joey impressed me for the first time this season, and Joyce had a good game. However , if our defenders hadn't tried to find touch so often a la Twickenham I think things would have been a lot easier. McConville showed why he is on the bench nowadays with a horrible lob into the goalies hands when a simple lob would have put us out of sight, plus another poor finish from a good chance, as well as the awful corner mentioned by Cashy which set Torquay up for a breakaway and possible equaliser. I enjoyed the match, unlike those of us who seem to expect Barcelona-type displays every game.

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I break my deadlock after missing a thrilling tues night match, what a tiring dire performance - then Craney scores a cracker and I missed it :( so will have to catch the replay lol

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Must agree with you Redraine,as Torquay are a well organised team and did there homework on Acci.
They played 3 upfront,and when they lost possession,2 went wide and the centre one dropped off to stop the ball going into the centre mids feet,therefore Hessy saw a lot of the ball and his only option was to go long(a lot of the time into touch).
There centre backs had done there homework on Gornell and give him a rough ride.
To be fair to them they still had 2 up front even when down to 10 men.
Think new red was being a bit harsh on singling out Deano,who i thought marked Robinson out the game(he was eventually subbed),and on corners he marked there 6-4 number 5, and conceeded nothing,unlike Ellis(who got sent off),who bullied his Acci marker and should really have scored.
Although Hesseys long passes went astray today,I thought he more than competed in the 50-50 battles.
A great 3 points,against a good team,cant complain

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very fair summary from coley,on fishy.

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12 Mths ago..

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Thing is fer all the knockers, the last 6 Pts are due to Mr Craney. Fact.;)

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Your not the only one who missed the goal. First match I have been able to make in quite a while due to work commitments. And due to work commitments, left at 4.30 and missed the goal by about 5 minutes. Typical.:( But hey, at least we won and kept a clean sheet.:alright:

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Just seen the goal again - cracking strike but it looked like the keeper should have stopped it.

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Some entertaining reports from the Torquay travellers. Start half way down page 8, after which they get a bit bitter and twisted.:D

Torquay United Fans Forum - TorquayFans.com | View topic - Accrington Stanley vs Torquay United - Saturday 26th Feb

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"Deano,who i thought marked Robinson out the game"

Just my opinion Football 19 and if you dont want to read anyone else' s opinions best not to look. I dont expect you to agree if you are his relatived. I was just giving MY honest opinion on the game as I saw it. Youre rather defensive anytime Deano has a negative post. I dont expect everyone to agree. Just thought he wasnt at his best. Main point we are slowly clawing our way up the league even when players arnt at their best.

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Two players who I thought deserve special mention for yesterday are Jacobson and Joyce.

Jacobson had his best game yet that I have seen, including his first spell with the club. And Joyce as well proved what a valuable member of the squad he is. I personally would put Joyce on every teamsheet as he is one of those players who just quietly gets on with doing his job and seems to be involved with every part of the game, offensively and defensively. And his mums called Joyce. Maybe.

It wasn't a good game, and we struggled to find any cohesion against a resolute Torquay side who had come to defend the game (but yet still threatened our 18 yard box too many times). But what I did find impressive was our work rate. Without any real moments of pressure to build up a head of steam we still kept going and still chased everything down and still kept probing away, I dont think the sending off did us any real favours and the outcome of the game was always likely to be the same, 0-0, until one special moment from Craney. I'm not his biggest fan but the last two games have proved his worth and that he is one of those players who can find goals like that. Other than the goal he also was unlucky with a couple of efforts after fantastic turns in the box, one he couldnt quite get past his man and the other he was not at his best with the shot.

All in all though that was one for the 'win ugly' box I think, but it was a very important 3 points against one of the teams who will have an eye on a play off place still - get off it, it's ours!

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A few thoughts from Ian Craney - ASFC News Story > 3895

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Goes to show,when things are not going to plan,If you work hard and dont let your head drop,then you have a much better chance of getting something from the game.
New red,your right,its all about opinions,but my glass is half full,not half empty!!!,Even when players dont perform to there best i still try and concenrate of positives ie; Hesseys long balls didnt come off yesterday,but he still had a good defensive performance against Billy Kee,same with Deano,good defensively,seemed reluctant to go forward at times ( you would have to ask JC and JB why as he plays to instructions),then again with the footballing talent in front of him,seems common sense to give it to them!!!!

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It really was a dire game of football, but on reflection of the past few games, I am so impressed with the character that our team is beginning to show. Our players are now much more determined than earlier in the season; we'll keep going and keep trying to make chances, even when we go through spells of not being able to string two passes together. You need that blind resilience to get results when you aren't playing to your best.

I thought Jacobson, Cisak and Procter each had a really good game. I am concerned about Jimmy Ryan however. Perhaps I'm being harsh but he doesn't seem to be playing well at all lately. Would prefer to see McConville start the next game. Go on, snigger, but we looked much better when Sean took to the field yesterday. We need a lad playing facing goal in our system and we don't have that when Ryan, Craney & Barnett start in the attaching three. I think either McConville or Putterill has to take one of those places to give us more of a threat to the opposition's goal. But what do I know. :)

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I agree with your points Shaker, about Macca/Razor and the "Holding" midfielders (we have too many!!) Macca is lightweight agreed, but he and Razor run forwards with the ball and that was the one thing that we lacked yesterday, for most of the match!!

It's the same old, same old, we have a good squad and the games have been coming thick and fast recently, resting/rotating players is a good thing - IMHO!!

:) :) :)

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Picking up on Jimmy his best football is played through the middle of the park not out on the right wing as per at the moment where as Craney is playing the central role, if you look at earlier this season all Jimmy's best work comes through the centre with those lung bursting runs and shots from central positions it was similar last season. The work rate is still there but perhaps a bit more starved of the ball and having to tuck in a bit more out wide?

Barnett is a very tidy player waste's very little in give's & go's and contributes an awful lot can't really knock Craney at the moment as he is producing I am not his biggest fan but everything is ticking through him.

With a wealth of midfielders at the Club's disposal it is always going to be difficult and just to add my own tuppence worth with the pitch as it I wouldn't have minded looking at two genuine wingers.

Who would be a manager;)

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I agreed about the wingers. After 70 minutes it was apparent that we were struggling to break Torquay down, and I reckoned that two wingers would have stretched the play, and the ten men, and allowed us to play more on grass rather than sand - like you said though, who'd be a manager!

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I think you should give a bit of credit to Torquay,upto yesterday they had only lost 8 games,so they were obviously not a team to roll over and lay down,and thats the way it panned out,although Acci should have scored more (sean mac at least twice).
For all there effort,the best chances they had were from corners, freekicks and set pieces,which again we gave too many away and will be punished if it continues

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I don't think we should change the system. I just think that Craney and Ryan - though polar opposite in their respective styles - have the same job title, and it's hard to put both players in positions where they will both play to their best. A little bit of a Gerrard/Lampard situation, really. I think it has to be one or the other, as Barnett offers something different. At the moment, Craney is producing the goods and Ryan isn't. For that reason, I'd like to see McConville or Putterill play instead of Ryan in the next game. A player facing goal, picking up on the scraps and Gornell's lay-offs/flick-ons; running at defenders is what we need to regain some of our attacking threat, in my opinion. I'd prefer to see Putterill as that player to start, but McConville seems much more effective (and fit).

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Well thought the pitch was the winner again!! Its an absolute disgrace.

As for the game, very scrappy as expected.

Yet another Craney screamer, deja vu from the Crewe game.

Despite him doing nowt for the other 99% of the game, thats the type of player he is, and I wouldent change a winning team.


3 games, 3 wins, cant get much better for me.

Roll on Lincoln on Saturday.

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I have to disagree shakermaker,You can play Ryan anywhere in midfield and you will get a performance out of him,he sets the tempo of the game with his energy and to rest/drop him would be suicidal.
The problem he has at the moment is the front midfield 3 of craney,charlie and himself is that Craney is still getting match fit therefore they are more rigid than interchanging(were fitness is key)'
Therefore hes getting pushed out on the wide areas and getting bogged down.
I will more of the team would show the desire he has,then we would be top of the league !!!!!!!

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I'm not disputing Jimmy's desire. I agree that his willingness to succeed is exemplary. However I can't agree with your assertion that "you can play Ryan anywhere in midfield and you will get a performance out of him", as in my opinion he has really struggled in the past few games.
If your theory about the attacking three being more rigid due to Craney's lack of match fitness and therefore movement is correct, surely the non-effective Jimmy can be sacrificed in order to regain an attacking aspect that we have lost in the absence of McConville/Putterill.
Jimmy's a brilliant player, certainly at this level, but even the best have the odd dip in form (especially when they aren't played in their most effective position) and I believe that playing McConville in his slot would be more beneficial to the team at this point in time.

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Unbelievable, barmy argument. For the last three WINNING matches McConville has been on the bench, which has gladdened my heart. If that had been the case for much of the earlier part of the season I am convinced we would now be comfortably in the play-off places. How you can seriously consider dropping Jimmy, the heart of our team, for Sean is beyond my comprehension.

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and mine redraine??

Why change a winning team?!?!?!?!?

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But, Macca did win the Crewe game Redraine.... ;)

Sean McConville... Seany Sean McConville :D :D :D Try it RR, you never know, you might get to like it :p :D :D

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...yet he has a goal to show for his playing time, whereas Ryan doesn't. Barmy indeed.

There's always room for improvement, yesterday showed that there's an abundance of it. If you keep to the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' mentality, things get stagnant and it all falls apart sooner rather than later.

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Substitute weeks for years.:D:D

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Macca the should have scored 2 on Crewe and 2 yesterday for Ryan the most talented player we have. That is mental.

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Sorry Shaker, dont agree at all im afraid.

If we start losing games then by all means change it, but if aint broke it doesnt need fixing in my book!

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Nevermind then. We have a perfect team! Back-to-back wins to the end of the season it is! Might as well not even have subs! Easy. :)

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You're taking the mick! Where's Cav?:rolleyes:

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Our greatest captain ever, Mr. Cavanagh, was at the game yesterday. :D

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If they carry on with this form there's every chance of 3 extra local derbies next season, 2 in the league and 1 in the JPT against Preston :D

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last season we didn't rotate the squad enough until it was too late. Lots of games in quick succession on heavy pitches means that those carrying knocks, or off form, are going to perform less and less. We need to make use of that famous squad before its too late!

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Its good debating different opinions,but surely its only JCs that count.
Who guessed he would change the keeper 3 games ago?,I didnt,and it has worked upto date.
Brings mcConville on against crewe and scores!!!.
He knows his players better than anyone,but my only real concern is for the squad players trying to catch there eye in training on a rugby field,which is nearly impossible.
You spend more time on the training pitch trying to improve your game,but it cant be doing them any good ploughing through the mud and long grass,surely there is a decent local outdoor all weather pitch they can use regulary.