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smudgie 06-03-2011 18:40

New Sky Sports Fanzone Now Online, could be my best yet.
 
Stanley sabotaged from within | FanZone | Blogs | League Two | Accrington Stanley | Lee


Thanks for the comments.

ukcowboy 07-03-2011 08:04

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Excellent piece, well done.

Outback Ozzy 07-03-2011 09:10

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Just a small criticism Lee, Burton Albion were in the Pirelli stadium long before promotion to the football league. Don't forget, Ilyas has said he will build us a new stadium once everything is sorted with the on-going saga of Whalley et-al. However, I think you are being a bit harsh on Rob Heys who is Stanley through and through. He is only doing what he is told to do. He makes no financial decisions and can only pay out what comes in through the turnstiles and sponsorship and corporate etc. If Ilyas trusts him, I do and having met and spoken to him, (Rob that is) he comes across as a very likeable person.

Billy Casper 07-03-2011 09:29

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"I think you are being a bit harsh on Rob Heys"
"He is only doing what he is told to do."


He has been known to be very economical with the truth though.:mad:

Great read Smudgie:alright:

cashman 07-03-2011 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 889852)
Just a small criticism Lee, Burton Albion were in the Pirelli stadium long before promotion to the football league. Don't forget, Ilyas has said he will build us a new stadium once everything is sorted with the on-going saga of Whalley et-al. However, I think you are being a bit harsh on Rob Heys who is Stanley through and through. He is only doing what he is told to do. He makes no financial decisions and can only pay out what comes in through the turnstiles and sponsorship and corporate etc. If Ilyas trusts him, I do and having met and spoken to him, (Rob that is) he comes across as a very likeable person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Casper (Post 889855)
"I think you are being a bit harsh on Rob Heys"
"He is only doing what he is told to do."


He has been known to be very economical with the truth though.:mad:

Great read Smudgie:alright:

Have to agree wi these 2 posts about Rob Heys, ilyas seems to have put him yon, when the terrible 2 vanish off the scene only then to me can he be judged, one way or the other.

Greeny 07-03-2011 11:05

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Rob Heyes may have been "economical with the truth" but at the end of the day if your boss says tell people this, you tell people this after all his job could have been at stake.I have know Rob many years , give him a chance.Once / if the boardroom problems get sorted only then will we see Rob as Rob.
Has Eric Whalley now signed ? or is that "next week " ?

cashman 07-03-2011 11:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 889885)
Rob Heyes may have been "economical with the truth" but at the end of the day if your boss says tell people this, you tell people this after all his job could have been at stake.I have know Rob many years , give him a chance.Once / if the boardroom problems get sorted only then will we see Rob as Rob.
Has Eric Whalley now signed ? or is that "next week " ?

I dont know him personally, though our paths have crossed, if yeh got a family to support, it aint rocket science- Family must take precedence to anyone wi sense.;)

Billy Casper 07-03-2011 11:27

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I wasn,t passing judgement on Mr Heyes, Just stating a fact.

cashman 07-03-2011 11:40

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Originally Posted by Billy Casper (Post 889891)
I wasn,t passing judgement on Mr Heyes, Just stating a fact.

is it hard to comprehend Billy? i was agreeing wi yeh in post 5.:D

Billy Casper 07-03-2011 12:12

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Nowt wrong wi mi comprehension , More than just you replied to mi postin ;)

cashman 07-03-2011 12:48

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Originally Posted by Billy Casper (Post 889907)
Nowt wrong wi mi comprehension , More than just you replied to mi postin ;)

True but only greeny, who said " he may have been economical with the truth" so don't see that as disagreeing.:confused:

Alvin the chipmunk 07-03-2011 12:53

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I'd have to disagree about the gate prices being too high. Excluding special offers and discounts, on a general league game basis we are the cheapest in the football league with the cheapest season tickets to boot.

I know people always trot out the old "But Rovers is 15 quid against West Brom next blah blah blah" argument, but the truth is gate money counts for very little in the Premiership and is offset by the huge amounts of television money et al generously donated by Mr Murdoch.

I think lowering prices wouldn't have substantial enough effect to warrant it, that is, I don't think enough new fans will come to make it worthwhile. For example the Burton game next week is a fiver yet I don't think we will suddenly be swamped with 4,000 on.

To steal a quote from Wynonie in a previous thread "Never underestimate the apathy of the Accrington public."

This Stanley team in my opinion is offering excellent value for money. :D

But an otherwise excelent column. Well done. :)

Alvin the chipmunk 07-03-2011 12:54

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As for away fans....pah....let 'em get wet. :)

maccawozzagod 07-03-2011 14:14

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I've long advocated making admission a fiver Alvin. I'd make it a fiver right across the board, kids, pensioners, pesky students, adults etc etc. Family of four £20

"how much is it on t'Stanley mate?"
"a fiver"
"what about seating?"
"a fiver"
"what about my disabled Grandmother?"
"a fiver"
"what about her grand kids?"
"what do you not understand, its a fiver for every chuffer!!"

one off games wouldn't be a proof of anything regarding gates as you could argue that most people dont know and its only us that are getting the benfit of it only being a fiver. I maintain that once word gets firmly around that Stanley are value for money then crowds will soar, minimum 3000 for standard home games plus away fans - which would mean a sell out for Bradfords, Burys etc

If we ever get a new stadium, or redevelop The Crown we have to fill it - would look stupid with 1300 in every week. We need to start doing that before we even move, at least one full season of ridiculously low prices would tell Mr Khan whether Accrington Stanley could make use of a new stadium or not.

Cheapest prices in the Football League by an unbeatable country mile.

Value for money

Cheaper than the Unibond.

Would guarantee column inches in a positive light for a change.

Could be marketed as payback to Accrington for all the times we've held our hand out to them.


DO IT.

Alvin the chipmunk 07-03-2011 14:18

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I agree in principle, always have done. It's a scenario I'd love to see. My only concern is that I don't think at the moment reducing gate prices will result in the doubling/trebling of gates needed to justify it. Long term....who knows?

cashman 07-03-2011 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 889935)
I agree in principle, always have done. It's a scenario I'd love to see. My only concern is that I don't think at the moment reducing gate prices will result in the doubling/trebling of gates needed to justify it.

agreed, would be maybe a good move to do at start of new season, providing plenty of advance publicity, through media, could also charge away fans £25 to get wet through.:D

lancsdave 07-03-2011 14:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 889937)
could also charge away fans £25 to get wet through.:D


But then you have to charge home fans £25 for staying dry :)

widnes viking 07-03-2011 16:41

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Do us all a favour and walk away, not only Whalley (who at the time of writing has apparently finally left the club for good), but O'Neill and Heys aswell. You have contributed nothing to the Stanley cause ever since you have been at the club, and its time we, the faithful Stanley supporter say enough is enough.

Not sure that is fair at all in the case of Eric Whalley. In fact I strongly suspect on many occasions in the past there wouldn't be a Stanley if it wasn't for the club being funded for years before Ilyas came along.

Pendle Red 07-03-2011 17:57

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I have tried pushing the Burton game this end but proving very difficult for take up

Clarets are at home so that rules out a lot of friends & folk I know but even at a fiver people who came on the Friday night games and the SOS games at Turf & the Crown when we played Rovers are pessimistic at best about putting money Stanley's way after what went on.

I tend to agree with Alvin on the gate sizes people are not going to rush back till everything is put to bed and the decks swept clean and the Club are actively out there as a presence as a Professional Football Club.

I know it is difficult and I really feel for anybody who has to work under pressures outside their jurisdiction there is the "Back the Boys" and this game for a fiver but short term sticky tape fixes are just that.

I will support the Club in whatever way I can to a point but I won't stick me head on the block as I have in the past till it's proved to me things have changed.

Actions really do speak louder than words

maccawozzagod 07-03-2011 19:12

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yeah I agree that now aint the time for £5 admission, I thought we were talking longer term strategy?

shakermaker 07-03-2011 19:26

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I don't think Accrington will be relieved of its apathy or forget about the contempt with which the local community was treated throughout the Whalley days until a new stadium under a new regime is under way. Because then the change would have a material manifestation.

Fiver a ticket in the Le Stade de Acc' would multiply our current gates many times over.

maccawozzagod 07-03-2011 19:55

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 890057)
Fiver a ticket in the Le Stade de Acc' would multiply our current gates many times over.


where's the 'like' button?

lancsdave 07-03-2011 20:43

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If you are getting 1000 away fans at a game by charging a fiver ( which you will have to do ) you're losing up to 10k a game. Will the home ends be filled up enough to do that ?

If you're going to have silly prices the only real way of doing that is through season tickets.


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