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coley1957 20-05-2011 21:03

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Over the years, we have become accustomed to some poor officiating, but tonight we were treated to the unbelieveable sight of the officials legging it off the pitch - whilst the bemused players were left to assume the match had ended.

You know when you've had a shocker - but surely tonight's ref takes the title?

A strong referee was required - but he allowed things to get out of hand in the first half where 7 minutes of added time was played - yet there wasn't an injury of any note.

Stevenage were allowed to "spoil" the play at every opportunity - yet the irony is that in a match which can hardly be described as dirty - we end up with two red cards.

A disappointing end to a season that has given us so much joy and good football. Well done to all who played their part and thanks for a great season. Keep the faith!

lindsay ormerod 20-05-2011 21:18

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We played some pretty filthy football and the chat back to the ref was unacceptable behaviour, we deserved every card we got and I don't blame the ref for legging it, must have been a pretty intimidating atmosphere and Coley obviously wanted a few words. :(

theresonlyoneaccy 20-05-2011 21:31

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^ Wrong. We did nothing we wouldn't do on a saturday afternoon. I am a referee, I have had people threaten to burn my house down and I wouldn't have been intimidated by that today. He was his own worst enemy, didn't get to grips with their number 4 or their so called injuries. Absolute disgrace.

Nickelson 20-05-2011 21:32

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Nope not having it.... they played filthy football. It was disgusting, theres only so many elbows ect you can take. Fair play to Stevenage they had a plan and stuck to it. Place every man behind ball. Be first to 50/50s.

lancsdave 20-05-2011 21:37

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 907665)
I don't blame the ref for legging it, must have been a pretty intimidating atmosphere


It wasn't intimidating at all, it had become quite subdued by then.

I used to be a referee at senior level and never ever have I seen anything so bizarre and shameful as his exit from the pitch. There is no way in the world he should have left 21 players on the pitch and dissapeared. His job ends when all players have left the pitch.

lindsay ormerod 20-05-2011 21:38

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Originally Posted by theresonlyoneaccy (Post 907672)
^ Wrong. We did nothing we wouldn't do on a saturday afternoon. I am a referee, I have had people threaten to burn my house down and I wouldn't have been intimidated by that today. He was his own worst enemy, didn't get to grips with their number 4 or their so called injuries. Absolute disgrace.

What about our so called injuries and some very blatant theatrics? You really can't defend that! Either way, we are going nowhere and it's probably for the best looking at that pitch. I hope Coley stays but would think it unlikely. Anyhoo it's cricket season now!

Nickelson 20-05-2011 21:38

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 907675)
It wasn't intimidating at all, it had become quite subdued by then.

I used to be a referee at senior level and never ever have I seen anything so bizarre and shameful as his exit from the pitch. There is no way in the world he should have left 21 players on the pitch and dissapeared. His job ends when all players have left the pitch.

20 players actually ;).

100% agree with you Dave. Shambolic performance by the referee.

coley1957 20-05-2011 21:40

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 907665)
We played some pretty filthy football and the chat back to the ref was unacceptable behaviour, we deserved every card we got and I don't blame the ref for legging it, must have been a pretty intimidating atmosphere and Coley obviously wanted a few words. :(

You've got to ask yourself why our players has so much cause to question some of the decisions. I was watching on a dodgy Internet connection from abroad - but there was no consistency in any of the refs decisions. For example - was Jacobson's challenge any worse than the lunge by Charles in the first half?

I would agree with you if ill discipline warranted the appropriate card - but frustration grows the longer the referee takes no action. Make no mistake - we are neither a physical or a dirty side - yet the card count after this game may lead a neutral observer to think otherwise.

cashman 20-05-2011 21:40

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i aint having it, the game was a non-event due to completely useless officials who allowed satanage to get away wi absolute murder, everyone knows yeh shouldn't answer back, n if yeh can't understand after what they got away wi, why players get frustrated summat aint right. the ending was the most bizarre ive ever seen at any game in my lifetime, was probably in a hurry to drive the satanage coaches home.:mad:

caretaker 20-05-2011 21:41

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Yes they won all the fifty fiftys and all the headers, a disapointing couple of games against Stevenage. I went down the coppice end for a change and the sun was blinding
Why water the pitch at half time when there was laying water . good luck for next season

lancsdave 20-05-2011 21:42

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Originally Posted by Nickelson (Post 907678)
20 players actually ;).

100% agree with you Dave. Shambolic performance by the referee.

20 of course. :D

Regardless of his performance he should never have left the pitch like that. I've been threatened with allsorts on a football pitch, I even survived being on the line at Great Harwood with a certain Eric Whalley giving me the benefit of his wisdom for 90 minutes :rolleyes:. The ending was surreal

david1 20-05-2011 21:46

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I don't think the Ref has done himself any favours tonight . He was dreadful !

Nickelson 20-05-2011 21:47

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Not sure what Sky said about the ending. However I hope the FA review that game. I'm not being biased the full Stevenage side was full of thugs. We played into there hands they wound us up.

Larry Lobster 20-05-2011 21:57

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The referee's performance wasn't brilliant by any stretch. But to be fair he did add 7 minutes on in the 1st half, which is very unusual. He was left with little choice but to send Jacobson off. The linesman and the Stevenage players saw to it that McConville followed immediately, but his behaviour was petulant to say the least.

The referee's final act of running of the pitch and leaving 20 players with no idea as to his final decision was shameful, and on that may end his refereeing career.

lancsdave 20-05-2011 22:01

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To me his performance would have been irrelevant to the Football League. His last decision though should ensure he never referees in the football league again

theresonlyoneaccy 20-05-2011 22:02

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 907677)
What about our so called injuries and some very blatant theatrics? You really can't defend that! Either way, we are going nowhere and it's probably for the best looking at that pitch. I hope Coley stays but would think it unlikely. Anyhoo it's cricket season now!

You've got to be kidding me. They were time wasting from the kick-off. The 7 minutes added time was down to them!!

Outback Ozzy 20-05-2011 22:08

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In some respects I agree with most things said on here. However, I must agree with LindsayOrmerod on one point, if the referee gives a decision, whether the players like it or not, just let him get on with it, not surround him trying to get over a point. Personally, I think the whinging and moaning talked the ref out of a red card for Charles and instead felt sorry for him and gave him a yellow, yet Joe's challenge, although I didn't see it clearly, warranted a straight red, where is the consistency? McConville's sending off, no problem with IF he raised his hand to face of Stevenage player.
Personally, I though we did not play to our strengths and I would have played 4-4-2 tonight to confuse the hell out of Westley's team not the 4-2-3-1 we served up. But hey ho I am not the manager.

All in all, we have a great season, looking forward to beating Crawley out of sight oh and 6 points from Morecambe.

afrikaaner 20-05-2011 22:41

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The ref was a joke,i know accy didn't play well at all tonight but Stevenage stifled the game.Their antics of thuggery and time wasting spoilt the game as a spectacle,as for the ref he was a complete joke,and should never be allowed to referee another game ever.He should have stayed on the pitch with his assistants until all the players were safely off the pitch,i was in the army and if i'd done a runner like that i'd have been court marshalled.Iknow it won't happen but the league should seriously revue all his decisions from tonights game,on the whole we didn't do enough to win it but when you are up against 14 it becomes hard to establish a foot hold in a game.But at the end of the day the lads have done accy proud to get into the play offs,and with a better set of officials who knows what might have been,cart on lads there's always next season!!!!!!!!

lancsdave 20-05-2011 22:54

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Originally Posted by afrikaaner (Post 907731)
He should have stayed on the pitch with his assistants until all the players were safely off the pitch,

Nail on the head. I'm still sat here wondering if what I saw really happened.

Wynonie Harris 20-05-2011 22:59

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Originally Posted by afrikaaner (Post 907731)
The ref was a joke,i know accy didn't play well at all tonight but Stevenage stifled the game.Their antics of thuggery and time wasting spoilt the game as a spectacle,as for the ref he was a complete joke,and should never be allowed to referee another game ever.He should have stayed on the pitch with his assistants until all the players were safely off the pitch,i was in the army and if i'd done a runner like that i'd have been court marshalled.Iknow it won't happen but the league should seriously revue all his decisions from tonights game,on the whole we didn't do enough to win it but when you are up against 14 it becomes hard to establish a foot hold in a game.But at the end of the day the lads have done accy proud to get into the play offs,and with a better set of officials who knows what might have been,cart on lads there's always next season!!!!!!!!

Totally agree, Afrikaaner. As LancsDave said in another thread, when a player goes down less than a minute after the start with "cramp", you can see what sort of team they are - cynical, cheating thugs. No wonder they are so disliked in the lower leagues. However, given their tactics, the game required a strong, decisive ref and linesmen. They could not have picked a worse bunch if they'd tried.

Despite that, I'm still proud of what we've achieved this season. It's just that they way we were cheated out of the game tonight has left a bitter taste.

Stanleymad 20-05-2011 23:13

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Originally Posted by afrikaaner (Post 907731)
The ref was a joke,i know accy didn't play well at all tonight but Stevenage stifled the game.Their antics of thuggery and time wasting spoilt the game as a spectacle,as for the ref he was a complete joke,and should never be allowed to referee another game ever.He should have stayed on the pitch with his assistants until all the players were safely off the pitch,i was in the army and if i'd done a runner like that i'd have been court marshalled.Iknow it won't happen but the league should seriously revue all his decisions from tonights game,on the whole we didn't do enough to win it but when you are up against 14 it becomes hard to establish a foot hold in a game.But at the end of the day the lads have done accy proud to get into the play offs,and with a better set of officials who knows what might have been,cart on lads there's always next season!!!!!!!!

Spot on excellent summary:) I'm still sore in the throat & when dave is standing up with me shouting at the ref I know the refs a banker lol, the liner was just as appalling satanage players winking at him to make desicions go their way ( it was weird flirting ) he was so slow to keep in line of play that after many boros offsides went un noticed by him cos he was so late on line, by time got onside - YET IT WAS LINER THAN RAN OFF 1st then followed by the ref gee liner soon pegged it like an Olympian & wasn't slow running afterall. I think it was dodgey to say the least!!!

tufc27 20-05-2011 23:21

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 907701)
To me his performance would have been irrelevant to the Football League. His last decision though should ensure he never referees in the football league again

Torquay fan and a ref in peace, but how on earth can you go on and on about the way the referee left the pitch? He sent off two home players in a playoff semifinal 2nd leg, and feared a pitch invasion, as is customary for most league 2 teams for the last game of the season. Given his decisions, it was a fair judgement that he and his assistants could well have been threatened. Fair enough, it didn't look the best, but he has to put the safety of his team above looking respectful.

Why are you suggesting he should lose his place on the National List for that?
He had a decent game, and any Accy fan seriously having a go at him is just bitter. Up until the incident of the 2 red cards, it wasn't a dirty game, just very physical, with strong but fair challenges from both sides.

As for the away players getting McConneville sent off, all they did was speak to the assistant, who should be reporting to the referee what McConville did anyway. It was inexcusable, and he should know that if you raise your hands, you will be sent off!

cashman 20-05-2011 23:40

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bitter my arse:rolleyes: to say he had a decent game is sod all but bias,:rolleyes: he was a complete ****** simple as.

mab 20-05-2011 23:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 907755)
bitter my arse:rolleyes: to say he had a decent game is sod all but bias,:rolleyes: he was a complete ****** simple as.

we're been invaded with Trolls cashy:rolleyes:tufc27 safety of his team above looking respectful. so why did he leave both of his linesmen on the field while he ran off in to the dressing rooms,Fact is he had the worlds biggest crap of a game,He spoiled the game from the first min.

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cashman 21-05-2011 00:02

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 907758)
we're been invaded with Trolls cashy:rolleyes:tufc27 safety of his team above looking respectful. so why did he leave both of his linesmen on the field while he ran off in to the dressing rooms,Fact is he had the worlds biggest crap of a game,He spoiled the game from the first min.

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yer probably right mab said ref in peace, i doubt that very much,:rolleyes:

tufc27 21-05-2011 00:07

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 907758)
we're been invaded with Trolls cashy:rolleyes:tufc27 safety of his team above looking respectful. so why did he leave both of his linesmen on the field while he ran off in to the dressing rooms,Fact is he had the worlds biggest crap of a game,He spoiled the game from the first min.

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What was he meant to do? Take up arms and defend them? He obviously told them through their communication system that as soon as he blew the whistle they should leave the pitch, forget about the handshakes.

I'm not a troll, I've come here to defend the ref. I'm struggling to see what he did so wrong; both red cards spot on,

cashman 21-05-2011 00:14

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yer struggling cos yeh weren't there, was no consistency at all, what was goin on early doors off the ball, that yeh can't witness from yer armchair.:rolleyes: the game was ruined cos of incompetence.

mab 21-05-2011 00:17

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Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907764)
What was he meant to do? Take up arms and defend them? He obviously told them through their communication system that as soon as he blew the whistle they should leave the pitch, forget about the handshakes.

I'm not a troll, I've come here to defend the ref. I'm struggling to see what he did so wrong; both red cards spot on,

He turned up for a start:rolleyes:He never got to grips with the game from the off thats what:(

tufc27 21-05-2011 00:22

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 907766)
He turned up for a start:rolleyes:He never got to grips with the game from the off thats what:(

He had control of the game except for 1 minute in the second half. Even the best of refs give red cards for serious foul play, you can't expect a ref to permanently have all 22 players under his control. They do occasionally, without warning get out of control, and all the referee can do is issue the appropriate punishment.

carpon 21-05-2011 00:24

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Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907751)
Torquay fan and a ref in peace, but how on earth can you go on and on about the way the referee left the pitch? He sent off two home players in a playoff semifinal 2nd leg, and feared a pitch invasion, as is customary for most league 2 teams for the last game of the season. Given his decisions, it was a fair judgement that he and his assistants could well have been threatened. Fair enough, it didn't look the best, but he has to put the safety of his team above looking respectful.

Why are you suggesting he should lose his place on the National List for that?
He had a decent game, and any Accy fan seriously having a go at him is just bitter. Up until the incident of the 2 red cards, it wasn't a dirty game, just very physical, with strong but fair challenges from both sides.

As for the away players getting McConneville sent off, all they did was speak to the assistant, who should be reporting to the referee what McConville did anyway. It was inexcusable, and he should know that if you raise your hands, you will be sent off!

Were you at the game tonight muppet ???? Nope, watching the game from the comfort of your armchair, quietly formulating your own opinion. Why wheren't you at the Greenhaus watching your own team ????

Stevenage are an absolute disgrace....a stronger official would have sent Shrek...sorry .....Charles off for the lunge in the first half...let alone all the elbows and sly kicks, not just from Shrek but from the bloody lot of them!!!. Don't forget a T.V camera only shows you what the bloke holding or operating it is quick enough to catch.

The rest of them are feigning cheats..they can give it but given a bit back, the slightest touch sometimes, but in a competetive game, they fell down at every opportunity. Played for time. Wasted it. And that so called "Football League Official" bought it:mad:

Notice you say very little about the Stevenage tactics ??? Maybe when they've done the same to you're lot, you might start singing a different tune????:rolleyes:

And if you're a Ref, then you're probably of the same ilk...as in ...you obviously didn't see, or turned a blind eye to all the Stevenage shenanigans !!! I really hope you have a bit more bottle than that clown tonight....It spoke volumes that he did a runner at the first given opportunity.....He knew he'd had a shocker, hence why he made for the changing rooms A.S.A.P..:mad:

I played the game, at a much lower level, although I'd have to say,In my playing career, I never encountered a clown like that in my time. Don't come on here making excuses for somebody who isn't fit for Sunday league......at junior level.

If they beat Torquay in the final, after conning the next ref....are you coming on here to issue you're profound apologies ???? I somewhat doubt it.:mad:

cashman 21-05-2011 00:30

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Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907767)
He had control of the game except for 1 minute in the second half. Even the best of refs give red cards for serious foul play, you can't expect a ref to permanently have all 22 players under his control. They do occasionally, without warning get out of control, and all the referee can do is issue the appropriate punishment.

yeh really are a ******, mab was right TROLL

tufc27 21-05-2011 00:52

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Were you at the game tonight muppet ???? Nope, watching the game from the comfort of your armchair, quietly formulating your own opinion. Why wheren't you at the Greenhaus watching your own team ????

Stevenage are an absolute disgrace....a stronger official would have sent Shrek...sorry .....Charles off for the lunge in the first half...let alone all the elbows and sly kicks, not just from Shrek but from the bloody lot of them!!!. Don't forget a T.V camera only shows you what the bloke holding or operating it is quick enough to catch.

The rest of them are feigning cheats..they can give it but given a bit back, the slightest touch sometimes, but in a competetive game, they fell down at every opportunity. Played for time. Wasted it. And that so called "Football League Official" bought it:mad:

Notice you say very little about the Stevenage tactics ??? Maybe when they've done the same to you're lot, you might start singing a different tune????:rolleyes:

And if you're a Ref, then you're probably of the same ilk...as in ...you obviously didn't see, or turned a blind eye to all the Stevenage shenanigans !!! I really hope you have a bit more bottle than that clown tonight....It spoke volumes that he did a runner at the first given opportunity.....He knew he'd had a shocker, hence why he made for the changing rooms A.S.A.P..:mad:

I played the game, at a much lower level, although I'd have to say,In my playing career, I never encountered a clown like that in my time. Don't come on here making excuses for somebody who isn't fit for Sunday league......at junior level.

If they beat Torquay in the final, after conning the next ref....are you coming on here to issue you're profound apologies ???? I somewhat doubt it.:mad:

Don't call me an armchair fan. I live in London, but I've still managed to get back for 11 home league games this season + 9 away. I had a ticket for the Torquay game this evening, but couldn't go as I injured my knee on Wednesday, and am walking on a stick. Stevenage players might have gone down a bit easily, but they don't have to go down for it to be foul, so the ref was absolutely right to give them free kicks, whether they went down or not. I assume you're also talking about the McConville red card? Yes the Stevenage players went to the linesman about it, but that's no different to appealing for a decision normally.

The ref didn't have a shocker: the simple fact is you got outplayed, and you're blaming your defeat on the ref. He ran off pronto at FT as he feared a pitch invasion, and was worried for his and his assistants' safety, as he had sent two home players off.

tufc27 21-05-2011 00:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 907770)
yeh really are a ******, mab was right TROLL

That word really is bandied about too much these days. Most football fans have very little idea of the 'art of refereeing', so you call troll. Grow up.

SamF 21-05-2011 01:04

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Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907773)
That word really is bandied about too much these days. Most football fans have very little idea of the 'art of refereeing', so you call troll. Grow up.

"You weren't there man, you weren't there"

Anyone who saw the game with their own eyes knows the ref was wearing yellow. I've played football with a ref in his late 70's early 80's, he couldn't hear a thing and never left the centre circle because he couldn't run but at least he was fair, he wasn't good but he was fair, he barely made a correct decision all game but at least it was the same for both teams. Today if Charles did it - play on, if Gornell did it - foul. The ref today could have knocked all the time wasting on the head with a yellow card in the first 15 mins, he didn't. You can't blame Stevenage, bet they couldn't believe their luck, Jacobson's challenge in this game was not a red in a million years, given the leniency of the ref on challenges of the same ilk by Stevenage players. If the ref had called up every push, trip, elbow then yes, it was a red, but if he was to be consistent Stevenage would have been down to 8 by half time.

carpon 21-05-2011 01:20

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Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907772)
Yes the Stevenage players went to the linesman about it, but that's no different to appealing for a decision normally.

The ref didn't have a shocker: the simple fact is you got outplayed, and you're blaming your defeat on the ref. He ran off pronto at FT as he feared a pitch invasion, and was worried for his and his assistants' safety, as he had sent two home players off.

Outplayed??? Sky coverage must be absolute bobbins now !!! I must remember to cancel my subscription later !!!! Even with nine on the park we we're still having a go !!!

If you're a ref, then answer the question about.... Shrek...sorry..Charles..Should blatanly have walked for the first half lunge...never mind all the elbows and sly kicks???

It would have been a different game then.

If McCoville did raise an arm/ hand / whatever, then fair enough, from my view in the main stand, I missed that one, I accept he deserved the red. I did not miss all the first half antics of the aforesaid Shrek..sorry...Charles and and all the rest of the Stevenage antics..Nor did I miss all their second half antics...

The problem with referees at any level is consistency. They are human and at times can make mistakes. That guy tonight made an absolute plethora of them.....then decided to run for the cover of the changing room sharpish, leaving all the remaining players on the pitch. It took Westley to tell their lads the game was over !!!!

He never had control of the game after he lost it early on, obviously effected by the fact he was on / in the national spotlight (sky) and wanted to play to the cameras.

As I said earlier...not fit to referee at football league level.

And as for pitch invasion??? Did Sky not show the way true fans dignify themselves ??? Applauding a galant effort !!! How many fans went after the ref ???

Answers..(which coincidentally equal TUFC27's I.Q ) go to the guest referee !!!!

BFC Jo 21-05-2011 01:59

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 907774)
"You weren't there man, you weren't there"

Anyone who saw the game with their own eyes knows the ref was wearing yellow. I've played football with a ref in his late 70's early 80's, he couldn't hear a thing and never left the centre circle because he couldn't run but at least he was fair, he wasn't good but he was fair, he barely made a correct decision all game but at least it was the same for both teams. Today if Charles did it - play on, if Gornell did it - foul. The ref today could have knocked all the time wasting on the head with a yellow card in the first 15 mins, he didn't. You can't blame Stevenage, bet they couldn't believe their luck, Jacobson's challenge in this game was not a red in a million years, given the leniency of the ref on challenges of the same ilk by Stevenage players. If the ref had called up every push, trip, elbow then yes, it was a red, but if he was to be consistent Stevenage would have been down to 8 by half time.

Absolute bull**** on that one. Charles was penalised numerous times for jostling with your centre backs as was Reid and Gornell. Wait till you see Jacobson's tackle again and you should change your mind it was a definite red. Late, didn't get near the ball and his foot was high, it hit Reid studs up in his leg. Stevenage were very niggly but at no point were stupid or reckless like some Accrington players in the second half.


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Originally Posted by carpon (Post 907775)
Outplayed??? Sky coverage must be absolute bobbins now !!! I must remember to cancel my subscription later !!!! Even with nine on the park we we're still having a go !!!

If you're a ref, then answer the question about.... Shrek...sorry..Charles..Should blatanly have walked for the first half lunge...never mind all the elbows and sly kicks???

It would have been a different game then.

If McCoville did raise an arm/ hand / whatever, then fair enough, from my view in the main stand, I missed that one, I accept he deserved the red. I did not miss all the first half antics of the aforesaid Shrek..sorry...Charles and and all the rest of the Stevenage antics..Nor did I miss all their second half antics...

The problem with referees at any level is consistency. They are human and at times can make mistakes. That guy tonight made an absolute plethora of them.....then decided to run for the cover of the changing room sharpish, leaving all the remaining players on the pitch. It took Westley to tell their lads the game was over !!!!

He never had control of the game after he lost it early on, obviously effected by the fact he was on / in the national spotlight (sky) and wanted to play to the cameras.

As I said earlier...not fit to referee at football league level.

And as for pitch invasion??? Did Sky not show the way true fans dignify themselves ??? Applauding a galant effort !!! How many fans went after the ref ???

Answers..(which coincidentally equal TUFC27's I.Q ) go to the guest referee !!!!

You think Charles should of gone for the lunge? Stupid, it wasn't even a lunge. He stretched for the ball and caught the Accy player on his toes/top of his foot and got booked. Your player rolled around for a bit then got up and walked off perfectly fine after about 5 or 6 Accy players had surrounded the ref.

Funny how you don't mention Gornells elbow on Laird, caught him right in the face then shouted at the ref when a freekick was given and told Laird to get up.
The only clear chance Accrington had was the close range 'header' which was in fact a Maradonna esque handball. Stevenage created quite a few even before the sending offs (Long, Charlesx2).

Both reds were 100% right, even the pro Accrington commentary booth agreed. Stevenage were called non-league numerous times (especially by Lowe for some reason) and Coleman tried to say McCoville raised his hands because he got stamped on which was a total lie!

You deserved to lose because of the state of the pitch alone, truly embarrasing. Neither team were saints but for diving and crowding the referee Accrington won, shame they couldn't convert that into goals ey. The right team went through. Shame Stevenage didn't bring on Dino in the end, I think we used every first team outfield player available we were that short on players.

It's funny how you shout down a neutral fan for being bias, what does that make you then?

AccyMad 21-05-2011 02:04

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Before reading tufc's comments on here tonight was really hoping that Torquay would stuff sewerage out of sight at Old Trafford next week,now I'm not so sure - if they do to them what they did (and the ref allowed them to do) to us tonight they may well be singing a different tune.
Just hope that whatever Westley paid the ref tonight was enough to let him live with his consiounce - if any ref believes the decisions he made have been right would he really have trotted off like that one did tonight, I think not!! An absolute disgrace to the game & the profession & hope he is reported to the league as Coley tonight said he was going to do

Pendle Red 21-05-2011 06:08

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As a spectacle for a neutral from a free flow point of view it must have been squirming

As a fan watching inside the ground it was dreadful which was something the referee never got to grips with right from the outset, too much stop start it was obvious from the first leg how Stevenage play in they are physical which we never matched but they were also allowed to get away with it too much in niggles with flailing arms etc. over the two legs especially last night.

A stronger referee would have stamped his authority earlier on in the game and then allowed the game to flow for us it just meant as the game went on, we became more embroiled in descisions rather than trying to play football the way we can.

A great shame and a sad way for the curtain to fall on what has been from a footballing point of view the best Stanley side I have had the privilege of seeing.

rishtonreds 21-05-2011 06:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907751)
Torquay fan and a ref in peace, but how on earth can you go on and on about the way the referee left the pitch? He sent off two home players in a playoff semifinal 2nd leg, and feared a pitch invasion, as is customary for most league 2 teams for the last game of the season. Given his decisions, it was a fair judgement that he and his assistants could well have been threatened. Fair enough, it didn't look the best, but he has to put the safety of his team above looking respectful.

Why are you suggesting he should lose his place on the National List for that?
He had a decent game, and any Accy fan seriously having a go at him is just bitter. Up until the incident of the 2 red cards, it wasn't a dirty game, just very physical, with strong but fair challenges from both sides.

As for the away players getting McConneville sent off, all they did was speak to the assistant, who should be reporting to the referee what McConville did anyway. It was inexcusable, and he should know that if you raise your hands, you will be sent off!

I would expect you to stick up for the Ref, being one...

but, WTF.....????? I didnt notice the Ref leg it, just saw the liner on the Whinney Hill side run across the pitch and disappear, thought he must be going for another flag, or something..

there was absolutely no animosity being shown from the crowd at that point, just a subdued resignation that it wasn't to be...

and tell me, as a Ref, is that in the Ref's manual....????

At the end of Division 4 Play-Off match, "leg-it"......

He was a coward all night, and the end of the match proved it.

rishtonreds 21-05-2011 06:26

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Originally Posted by BFC Jo (Post 907777)
, I think we used every first team outfield player available we were that short on players.

It's funny how you shout down a neutral fan for being bias, what does that make you then?

I THINK YOU HAVE GIVEN THE GAME AWAY SUNSHINE...

"WE" used every outfield player "WE" were short of players...

I have already been warned twice about my comments on here, so I will just say, enjoy OT....

lancsdave 21-05-2011 06:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907751)
Why are you suggesting he should lose his place on the National List for that?
He had a decent game, and any Accy fan seriously having a go at him is just bitter. Up until the incident of the 2 red cards, it wasn't a dirty game, just very physical, with strong but fair challenges from both sides.

!


His safety was never in any doubt. How many matches do you go to where the referee is booed off the pitch, how many league matches in England have you been to where the referee has been attacked ? This is not local park football this is a league ground where the pitch may look like the surface of the moon but the controls and handling of the games is no different to anywhere else. The referee would have had the same protection as anywhere else at the end of the game.

I was a Class 1 referee for a few years, I often defend referees. I thought his performance was poor, it wasn't made easier by the players, but that is all irrelevant and his exit was shameful.

It was also an insult to Accrington Stanley Football Club and it's fans if he thinks his safety was compromised. Do you really beleive it is the most dangerous ground in the football league for match officials. Major insult :mad:

jaysay 21-05-2011 08:44

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I have to say I've been watching Football for 60 years and its the first time I've seen the ref leave all the 20 (in this case) on the field scratching their heads as to whats going on (what we doing lads, lets have a kick about) He made some very strange decisions in deed, the first red card would have been justified if he had given one to the oppositions striker in the first half, both were feet of the ground studs showing, as for the second there can't be any complaints really, whatever happens you don't raise your hands on the field the guy did it three times, daft really. As for the opposition, Think their manager sums them up really, Never heard of him before last Sunday but he has a face that looks like it needs a slap, don't think it will be long before that happens, just loved the six or seven team talks during the game when one of their players went down to order, you don't half see things like that on the TV which is probably missed live at the ground, but from relegation favorites to play offs is a great achievement one step further next year

socceroo fan 21-05-2011 09:08

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The FA should ensure that referee never gets to referee League football again.

As for his linesman, well the same linesman that had mcconville sent off somehow missed Charles' blatant elbow in the face to Cisak in the first half and they almost scored from it.

I really felt for all at Accrington last night and it's a shame was looking forward to seeing Cisak at Old trafford. You guys were mugged.

rishtonreds 21-05-2011 09:08

The ref's runner
 
I have just watched the end of the game again, and still cannot believe what happened...

it is even better in slow motion...

he looked at his watch, sprinted head down towards the corner, and only actually blew as he crossed the line heading through the gate. You can see the fourth official sprinting down the line behind him, and then the poor linesman from the Whinney Hill side (who must really have been poohing his pants by this stage), running for his life

It is absolutely unbelievable........

I know the Crown Ground is a cauldron of hate, where opposing fans get stabbed, cars get set on fire and shops looted every other Saturday, and fans are regularly locked up for running on the pitch and shooting the officials....

but why run??????
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:
.....

rishtonreds 21-05-2011 09:09

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I was joking, obviously

lancsdave 21-05-2011 09:17

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I bet even in slow motion he still broke the Olympic 100 meteres world record :D

smudgie 21-05-2011 09:23

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I have to agree the officials where VERY Poor.

But over 2 legs we where not good enough, SIMPLE.

Stanleymad 21-05-2011 09:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 907758)
we're been invaded with Trolls cashy:rolleyes:tufc27 safety of his team above looking respectful. so why did he leave both of his linesmen on the field while he ran off in to the dressing rooms,Fact is he had the worlds biggest crap of a game,He spoiled the game from the first min.

i

He actually left one linesman at far end & 4th official - liner near to dressing rooms was the 1st to bolt off!

Stanleymad 21-05-2011 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907751)
Torquay fan and a ref in peace, but how on earth can you go on and on about the way the referee left the pitch? He sent off two home players in a playoff semifinal 2nd leg, and feared a pitch invasion, as is customary for most league 2 teams for the last game of the season. Given his decisions, it was a fair judgement that he and his assistants could well have been threatened. Fair enough, it didn't look the best, but he has to put the safety of his team above looking respectful.

Why are you suggesting he should lose his place on the National List for that?
He had a decent game, and any Accy fan seriously having a go at him is just bitter. Up until the incident of the 2 red cards, it wasn't a dirty game, just very physical, with strong but fair challenges from both sides. It was inexcusable, and he should know that if you raise your hands, you will be sent off!

Ahh well on that note I hope the refs team punishment should be officials at old trafford as they are obviously boro supporters - torquay would then be complaining too - idiot!

maccawozzagod 21-05-2011 09:53

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i gotta agree that the ref was appalling. Had he clamped down on the blatant play acting and niggly fouls early on we might have had a decent game to watch. He was obviously aware that players were trying it on, why else add 7 minutes of injury time in the 1st half? its unheard of. But being aware of it and then allowing it to continue set the tone for the match.

But i've got to add that, as proud of the lads as I am for the way they've gone about their business this season, I am equally as appalled at the way that we play act, and crowd the referee. I dont think we are a particularly dirty team, but i can see why other teams and their fans get annoyed at the way we break the game up.

Let's just hope that in 5 weeks time the same players and the same management team turn up for the first weeks training.

Redraine 21-05-2011 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 907825)
But i've got to add that, as proud of the lads as I am for the way they've gone about their business this season, I am equally as appalled at the way that we play act, and crowd the referee. I dont think we are a particularly dirty team, but i can see why other teams and their fans get annoyed at the way we break the game up.
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Spot on there, Macca. Proccy seems to think that, as captain, he has a duty to harangue the ref. at every perceived injustice, Sunbeds is embarrassingly prone to staying down, poleaxed, when he takes a knock, and Hessey is never short of a few words for the ref. It goes right through the team and I hate to see it. And as for you know who, well he acts like a big girl's blouse, and seems to have had a running feud with Jimmy throughout the season. At one away match this season, I can't remember where, but down south somewhere, he had a real strop at Jimmy for failing to pass to him when there were better options around, running back to have go when the opposition were taking a corner. Jimmy gave him a suitable reply, whereupon my hero flounced off to the halfway line, head down and chunnering to himself, thereby missing a great opportunity to get into a great position as we countered after the corner. He should have been hauled off the field there and then!

Outback Ozzy 21-05-2011 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907772)
Don't call me an armchair fan. I live in London, but I've still managed to get back for 11 home league games this season + 9 away. I had a ticket for the Torquay game this evening, but couldn't go as I injured my knee on Wednesday, and am walking on a stick.

I am not going to go on abou the ref, enough has been said.
But to say you are not an armchair fan because you live in London and had a ticket for the Greenhaus match, but couldn't go because you hurt your leg awww. Shame on you, Never heard of trains, buses, taxis, get a mate to give you a lift etc etc. If I had hurt my leg and using a walking stick, I would still make every effort to go, especially when I had a ticket after all, it is an all seated stdium!. Could you not have stayed overnight in a travel lodge or some such establishment. You have been called a troll, muppet on this site, I would like to add another NUMPTY. Stick to your own site. BTW what happened to the other 26 games this season?

Wynonie Harris 21-05-2011 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 907850)
I am not going to go on abou the ref, enough has been said.
But to say you are not an armchair fan because you live in London and had a ticket for the Greenhaus match, but couldn't go because you hurt your leg awww. Shame on you, Never heard of trains, buses, taxis, get a mate to give you a lift etc etc. If I had hurt my leg and using a walking stick, I would still make every effort to go, especially when I had a ticket after all, it is an all seated stdium!. Could you not have stayed overnight in a travel lodge or some such establishment. You have been called a troll, muppet on this site, I would like to add another NUMPTY. Stick to your own site. BTW what happened to the other 26 games this season?

Too right, Ozzy! Gone up on the bus from Stockport and stood on the Clayton End in bedroom slippers in January when I had blisters on me feet! Soft southern sod!

SamF 21-05-2011 12:02

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 907857)
Too right, Ozzy! Gone up on the bus from Stockport and stood on the Clayton End in bedroom slippers in January when I had blisters on me feet! Soft southern sod!

Pfft caught the bus AND you wore slippers ? A true fan would have walked barefoot, just to prove their dedication :p

Wynonie Harris 21-05-2011 12:08

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 907858)
Pfft caught the bus AND you wore slippers ? A true fan would have walked barefoot, just to prove their dedication :p

Come on, Sam, you know the score! Would YOU walk through Longsight? Would go through hell and high water to watch Stanley, but bullets are a no no! ;)

SamF 21-05-2011 12:22

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 907859)
Come on, Sam, you know the score! Would YOU walk through Longsight? Would go through hell and high water to watch Stanley, but bullets are a no no! ;)

I have lived in Levenshulme for the last 2 years so Longsight doesn't actually seem that bad heh...

shakermaker 21-05-2011 12:27

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Thought the red cards were the only two decisions that the ref got right, regrettably. He let Stevenage get away with some of the most blatant and disgusting timewasting I have ever seen in my life. He was oblivious to the elbows flying in from the opposition. He gave a corner for a ball that went over the longside touchline! He was guilty of one of the most annoying referee behaviours; that of not giving a red card because it's early in the game. Had the Jacobson/McConville incident been at the time of the Charles horror tackle, I bet that the resulting punishments would've swapped over too. It was a terrible performance from the referee, epitomised when he fled the pitch. Disgraceful.

lancsdave 21-05-2011 12:28

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I'm not sure the words long sight are appropriate on this thread :D

cashman 21-05-2011 12:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 907861)
Thought the red cards were the only two decisions that the ref got right, regrettably. He let Stevenage get away with some of the most blatant and disgusting timewasting I have ever seen in my life. He was oblivious to the elbows flying in from the opposition. He gave a corner for a ball that went over the longside touchline! He was guilty of one of the most annoying referee behaviours; that of not giving a red card because it's early in the game. Had the Jacobson/McConville incident been at the time of the Charles horror tackle, I bet that the resulting punishments would've swapped over too. It was a terrrible performance from the referee, epitomised when he fled the pitch. Disgraceful.

Spot on shaker, Accrington has been known through famously through history fer brave men, that ref was a COWARD who insulted the club n town by his action at the end of the game.:mad:

SamF 21-05-2011 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 907861)
Thought the red cards were the only two decisions that the ref got right, regrettably. He let Stevenage get away with some of the most blatant and disgusting timewasting I have ever seen in my life. He was oblivious to the elbows flying in from the opposition. He gave a corner for a ball that went over the longside touchline! He was guilty of one of the most annoying referee behaviours; that of not giving a red card because it's early in the game. Had the Jacobson/McConville incident been at the time of the Charles horror tackle, I bet that the resulting punishments would've swapped over too. It was a terrible performance from the referee, epitomised when he fled the pitch. Disgraceful.

Sums it all up perfectly really.

DAV007 21-05-2011 12:59

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the ref was awful, his decision making was inconsistent and lacked control.

jaysay 21-05-2011 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 907860)
I have lived in Levenshulme for the last 2 years so Longsight doesn't actually seem that bad heh...

Is that where they have a rear gunner on the bread van Sam:D

jaysay 21-05-2011 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 907861)
Thought the red cards were the only two decisions that the ref got right, regrettably. He let Stevenage get away with some of the most blatant and disgusting timewasting I have ever seen in my life. He was oblivious to the elbows flying in from the opposition. He gave a corner for a ball that went over the longside touchline! He was guilty of one of the most annoying referee behaviours; that of not giving a red card because it's early in the game. Had the Jacobson/McConville incident been at the time of the Charles horror tackle, I bet that the resulting punishments would've swapped over too. It was a terrible performance from the referee, epitomised when he fled the pitch. Disgraceful.

Ya seemed a bit strange when they were time wasting after two minutes:rolleyes:

tufc27 21-05-2011 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 907774)
"You weren't there man, you weren't there"

Anyone who saw the game with their own eyes knows the ref was wearing yellow. I've played football with a ref in his late 70's early 80's, he couldn't hear a thing and never left the centre circle because he couldn't run but at least he was fair, he wasn't good but he was fair, he barely made a correct decision all game but at least it was the same for both teams. Today if Charles did it - play on, if Gornell did it - foul. The ref today could have knocked all the time wasting on the head with a yellow card in the first 15 mins, he didn't. You can't blame Stevenage, bet they couldn't believe their luck, Jacobson's challenge in this game was not a red in a million years, given the leniency of the ref on challenges of the same ilk by Stevenage players. If the ref had called up every push, trip, elbow then yes, it was a red, but if he was to be consistent Stevenage would have been down to 8 by half time.

Quote from the Laws of the Game:

Quote:

“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off
Can you honestly say that Jacobson didn't use excessive force?

tufc27 21-05-2011 14:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rishtonreds (Post 907780)
I would expect you to stick up for the Ref, being one...

but, WTF.....????? I didnt notice the Ref leg it, just saw the liner on the Whinney Hill side run across the pitch and disappear, thought he must be going for another flag, or something..

there was absolutely no animosity being shown from the crowd at that point, just a subdued resignation that it wasn't to be...

and tell me, as a Ref, is that in the Ref's manual....????

At the end of Division 4 Play-Off match, "leg-it"......

He was a coward all night, and the end of the match proved it.

There's no such thing as a referee's manual, there are guidelines, number 1 of which is that the officials' safety is paramount. Yes, the crowd were fairly subdued by that point, but as we know, most League 2 clubs have a pitch invasion for the last home game of the season. As with the vast majority of clubs, I'm sure 99.9% of Accy fans would be sensible enough to leave the ref alone if they went on the pitch, but it only takes 2 or 3 p*ssed off fans to cause a major incident. At the end of the day, the officials only stay on the pitch at the end to shake hands with players/staff, and I'm sure the officials would have been more than happy to shake hands behind the scenes. The referee is obliged to speak to the managers after the game, after a 30 minute cool off period, and I'm sure niceties were observed then.

I was refereeing a few months ago when a player shoved me. I abandoned the game. The players weren't happy, but it was correct procedure, and I was fully backed by my County FA.

tufc27 21-05-2011 14:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 907850)
I am not going to go on abou the ref, enough has been said.
But to say you are not an armchair fan because you live in London and had a ticket for the Greenhaus match, but couldn't go because you hurt your leg awww. Shame on you, Never heard of trains, buses, taxis, get a mate to give you a lift etc etc. If I had hurt my leg and using a walking stick, I would still make every effort to go, especially when I had a ticket after all, it is an all seated stdium!. Could you not have stayed overnight in a travel lodge or some such establishment. You have been called a troll, muppet on this site, I would like to add another NUMPTY. Stick to your own site. BTW what happened to the other 26 games this season?

Actually I gave my ticket to another fan I know in the area who couldn't get one. 20 games in a season when you live 200 miles away is a decent record, it will be 21 by next Saturday. I don't know many people who would 'give someone a lift' 150 miles on a Friday night, and not even have a ticket to get in to see the game!

tufc27 21-05-2011 14:28

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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1khn0OxDLA[/video]

lancsdave 21-05-2011 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907913)
There's no such thing as a referee's manual, there are guidelines, number 1 of which is that the officials' safety is paramount.

I think you will find the referee's duties are set in the Laws of the Game.

cashman 21-05-2011 14:35

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what has that video in another country to do wi last nights officials? to insinuate that could/would happen in accrington is a further insult, sod off back to yer own base troll.:rolleyes:

tufc27 21-05-2011 14:36

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 907921)
I think you will find the referee's duties are set in the Laws of the Game.

Duties in relation to the game - where in there does it say that he has a duty to stay on the pitch at the end of the game? I hope you know, as a referee yourself that should a referee be assaulted, he should abandon the game? Where does it say that in the Laws of the Game? Referee's actions are not governed just by the LOTG, there are other instructions, one of which is that your safety is paramount.

cashman 21-05-2011 14:38

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safety was/is never been n issue up here, though its plain to see you are a tart.:rolleyes:

tufc27 21-05-2011 14:42

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 907924)
what has that video in another country to do wi last nights officials? to insinuate that could/would happen in accrington is a further insult, sod off back to yer own base troll.:rolleyes:

That video shows it happens. Had the referee in that game done what last night's referee did, the unsavoury scenes of him being assaulted by fans would have been avoided.

ddevil2006 21-05-2011 14:47

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what the hell is a Telford United fan doing on here anyway

mab 21-05-2011 14:47

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Tufc you seem to have been watching the wrong game last night:( if all you can offer is a youtube vid of a Gaelic football match then i think its time you went back a cross that bridge you TROLL:rolleyes:

tufc27 21-05-2011 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 907924)
what has that video in another country to do wi last nights officials? to insinuate that could/would happen in accrington is a further insult, sod off back to yer own base troll.:rolleyes:

Also, I'm not singling Accrington out as a team who it could specifically happen with. It could happen with just about any League 2 team, and most League 1 teams.

cashman 21-05-2011 14:58

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If folk want to listen to clowns,theres a circus 5 miles up the road.:rolleyes:

tufc27 21-05-2011 15:00

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 907931)
Tufc you seem to have been watching the wrong game last night:( if all you can offer is a youtube vid of a Gaelic football match then i think its time you went back a cross that bridge you TROLL:rolleyes:

Whether it's football, gaelic football, rugby, tennis or croquet, that video shows it happens.

lancsdave 21-05-2011 15:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907932)
Also, I'm not singling Accrington out as a team who it could specifically happen with. It could happen with just about any League 2 team, and most League 1 teams.

And you are justifying his cowardice & stupidity. It could happen anywhere but it's rare, even more so the higher up the football pyramid you go. There was nothing last night to suggest otherwise except for what was in his own mind.

cashman 21-05-2011 15:08

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whilst i have never condoned violence on a football pitch, the fact you say you abandoned a game recently, i can easily understand how a jobsworth like you attracted it.:rolleyes:

mab 21-05-2011 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907938)
Whether it's football, gaelic football, rugby, tennis or croquet, that video shows it happens.

But not at the CROWN GROUND!!! I cant recall any Accrington fans running on the pitch last night when the whistle went:confused: everyone was stunned to see the reff leg it off:o

Kramer 21-05-2011 15:33

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I'm very annoyed that we didn't perform over the 2 legs. Fact is we weren't good enough. We all now what Stevenage are about and frankly it sickens me that footy has reverted to rearing these robots . We should have changed our tactics as we were no match. 2 up front at home? Sad that the 2 footy teams went out in semis

cashman 21-05-2011 15:46

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having thought this oer, fans are always a bit deflated at the end of any season, but Stanley Fans have been lifted a bit this time! a Troll wi a gammy leg has arrived to amuse us fer awhile.:D:D

rishtonreds 21-05-2011 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907913)
There's no such thing as a referee's manual, there are guidelines, number 1 of which is that the officials' safety is paramount. Yes, the crowd were fairly subdued by that point, but as we know, most League 2 clubs have a pitch invasion for the last home game of the season. As with the vast majority of clubs, I'm sure 99.9% of Accy fans would be sensible enough to leave the ref alone if they went on the pitch, but it only takes 2 or 3 p*ssed off fans to cause a major incident. At the end of the day, the officials only stay on the pitch at the end to shake hands with players/staff, and I'm sure the officials would have been more than happy to shake hands behind the scenes. The referee is obliged to speak to the managers after the game, after a 30 minute cool off period, and I'm sure niceties were observed then.

I was refereeing a few months ago when a player shoved me. I abandoned the game. The players weren't happy, but it was correct procedure, and I was fully backed by my County FA.

Just shows what level you referee at, and the level of your intelligence.

Rule Number one for referees is
"to enforce the Laws of the Game"

quite simple, even for you....

another rule
"ensure unauthorised persons do not encroach onto the field of play"

bit difficult when you have legged it.....

I really do not know what you point is really, except betting some sad pleasure out of registering for another club's website to show how sad you are...

we lost, you won, end of story.

Enjoy Old Trafford, although I suspect you will be sat at your computer... dont waste your time though, you cannot register for the Boro fans website... it is reserved for "person's" like yourself....
:alright:

MCR ADIM 21-05-2011 17:11

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Time to go, time to go, time to go,

lancsdave 21-05-2011 17:39

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Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907962)
and the part of Law 5 that says it is the referee's duty to stop unauthorised persons from entering the pitch is referring to club officials/ensuring that both teams only play with 11 men.

.

Looks like the ref screwed that one up then, one team only had 9 men :D

You've come on here trying to tell us what a referee's duty is and basically made up a load of possible scenarios which if in reality happened on a regular basis games would never kick off for fear of problems, let alone finish the games.

Are you by any chance a traffic warden in your day job ?

Oldgobbin 21-05-2011 18:12

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How did you know he was little, RR ? I'll bet you're right!!

Stanleymad 21-05-2011 18:21

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TUFC27 - im the referee on this forum & swearing is against the rules!! As well as failing to convince us u even reffed a kids game nevermind qualified to comment u break the rules here too, the rules/laws of forum is in my sig & will be removed as quoting your language.

Thanks:)

Redraine 21-05-2011 18:24

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Originally Posted by Oldgobbin (Post 907977)
How did you know he was little, RR ? I'll bet you're right!!

Where has my post gone, Mel?

Stanleymad 21-05-2011 20:09

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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 907986)
Where has my post gone, Mel?

It had to be removed as you quoted his full post including swearing, not just you either, I could of edited but being in moderate pain within my hand ATM due to banging a re-occurring injury it was too much to do, very sorry :( (if someone's sworn or ** then help me out by not quoting it in your reply & reply stays)

Revived Red 21-05-2011 20:23

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Originally Posted by tufc27 (Post 907772)
Don't call me an armchair fan. I live in London, but I've still managed to get back for 11 home league games this season + 9 away. I had a ticket for the Torquay game this evening, but couldn't go as I injured my knee on Wednesday, and am walking on a stick. Stevenage players might have gone down a bit easily, but they don't have to go down for it to be foul, so the ref was absolutely right to give them free kicks, whether they went down or not. I assume you're also talking about the McConville red card? Yes the Stevenage players went to the linesman about it, but that's no different to appealing for a decision normally.

The ref didn't have a shocker: the simple fact is you got outplayed, and you're blaming your defeat on the ref. He ran off pronto at FT as he feared a pitch invasion, and was worried for his and his assistants' safety, as he had sent two home players off.

As you are an expert, could you explain why Charles' foul on McConville was not a red card offence? Charles clearly went for the man and not the ball.

lancsdave 21-05-2011 20:29

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 907982)
TUFC27 - im the referee on this forum & swearing is against the rules!! As well as failing to convince us u even reffed a kids game nevermind qualified to comment u break the rules here too, the rules/laws of forum is in my sig & will be removed as quoting your language.

Thanks:)


Can I just point out that foul or abusive language is actually a red card offence not a yellow :rofl38:

Stanleymad 21-05-2011 20:32

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 908007)
Can I just point out that foul or abusive language is actually a red card offence not a yellow :rofl38:

Hahaha :o >>>> giving it legs - pegging it :rofl38:

david1 21-05-2011 20:35

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I wish we could have given the REF a red card !

Revived Red 21-05-2011 20:36

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 908005)
As you are an expert, could you explain why Charles' foul on McConville was not a red card offence? Charles clearly went for the man and not the ball.

Sorry! I see that someone has already asked about this.

david1 21-05-2011 20:42

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Did anyone else see McConville get fouled , He held his mouth , due to an elbow to the mouth . He walked over to the medic and gave him a tooth or something ?

cashman 21-05-2011 20:45

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Originally Posted by david1 (Post 908014)
Did anyone else McConville get fouled , He held his mouth , due to an elbow to the mouth . He walked over to the medic and gave him a tooth or something ?

yeh sure it weren't a wheelnut off a hubcap david?:D

fatgaz182 21-05-2011 21:26

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At least post a decent video TUFC27!!

YouTube - ‪Referee gets chased off the pitch‬‏

david1 21-05-2011 21:35

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If that Referee ever reads this , Don't give up your day job !I have never seen a Ref as bad as that .

SFC 96 22-05-2011 09:05

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Seriously are you lot for real?
You call us Cynical, physical and dirty? In the first game which we dominated you spent most of the game moaning at the ref and fouling our players. What about when we were counter attacking through on goal and one of your players chopped Long down when he was about to release, the ball it was a disgrace and you were lucky it was only a yellow.

After the game your manager said some pretty stupid things in the media which meant you lot were so wound up for the second game there was only going to be one winner. If anything our manager probably used the quotes he was making to spur us on to victory such as “we will put three past them at home” Does he know we have the best defence record in the league?

By the way after every game the whole team warms down on the on the pitch it is not a “lap of honour”.

The second game I thought some of the antics of your players was shocking Mconville should have been sent off for two yellows before he rightly so eventually got a red. Firstly for the dive to win a free kick on the edge of our box then for a blatant hand ball trying to punch the ball in the net pretending it was a diving header! Did you lot even watch the game?

Jacobson’s tackle was a straight red no doubt and Charles’s “lunge” was an attempt to block the ball. He only got booked because your players surrounded the ref something that you seem to have an issue with our captain Roberts doing!

We are a strong team and play to our strengths not even Barcelona could of played passing football on your cow field of a pitch so why are you moaning about our tactics of a more direct approach?

You were outplayed and we wanted it more and I think you should give credit where it is due. If you had played to your strengths in the first game it might have been a different story.

Good luck for next season.

lancsdave 22-05-2011 09:15

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Well I think thats drawn a line under everything from the last 2 games :)


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