Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

I just hope that we dont end up having lots of different managers in a relatively short space of time which has happened at other clubs in the past.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

got to be Westley:)

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

:) Evening expatriate :)

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Boy would i like to hear something from our illustrious leader tonight.....personally drained and totally demoralised

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:)No what you mean nige,mr khan was on when i posted!! :)

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

thats what happened before coley was manager 6 in a couple of years

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Very, very careful consideration required now......

Difficult man (men??- assuming J.B. & whoever else follow him to Spotland) to replace.:o

I like the idea of not rushing anything...After all.....another 10-13 points on board and we're safe....for this year.:(

Promote from within (temporarily) and then have another look at the sitaution in May.

One wrong move now and I'd hate to think or comprehend the consequences......:eek:

For me...I'm thinking...must have experience, can work on a budget, commands respect, has an eye for a player.

Only one that springs to mind at the moment is Sammy Mac...Done it before at Morecambe....ticks all those boxes. Any thoughts????:confused:

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

:) Been on Radio Lancs this morning that Leam Richardson
& Bryan Hughes Are to take over first team afairs as of today :) Leam & Bryans RED AND WHITE ARMY:D

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I assume that they are only temporary?

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D K D C Kiwi, I like it!

Up the Stanley!:alright:

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Like this club before Coleman and Bell arrived.

Not surprised about Bryan Hughes.

I thought last night Stanley should be able to offer him an acceptable deal and the chance to move on to player management.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Tin Monkey sums up my feelings as to the best scenario if we could manage it. Trouble is no one springs immediately to my mind who comes close to John Coleman.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

I was going to throw my name into the hat but I could'nt do the night matches as I got to be in bed by 9pm ;-p

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Not a bad guess!!,2 out of 3 lol , happy with that:)

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Makes me think maybe Patto is off with Coley and Jimmy then - seems strange no mention of him in the set-up.

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Must have had some inside info ;)

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Patto, Benny Hill (Joe) and goalkeeping coach Billy Stewart all placed on gardening leave whilst the picture becomes clearer - according to Chris Flanagan.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Gary Flitcroft and matt jansen perhaps ?

Sammy Mac would be the relatively safe option.

Cook would be a decent replacement possibly.

Watson at Southport is doing very well on small budget i believe.

All mentioned by other people above. Depending on circumstances and perhaps eagerness of a manager to get back in the game maybe just maybe a biggish experienced name might see it as a route back i.e sanchez at barnet.
Sad to see jc and jb leave but thanks and well done in your achievements and endless efforts of bringing and trying to bring success to ASFC.

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Paul Buckle did a decent job at Torquay on a budget

Re: New Manager Thread....
 

Ashley Hoskin??? Can Stanley afford a man who sells cheese for a living, get in the real world!!!

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Not suprising. Standard practice for half if not all the backroom staff to go with the manager. Fairly sure one of the Rochdale fans said Hill had taken the previous lot.

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Edam well better believe it!

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I heard the news yesterday via the internet and then phoned my mate on my mobile to tell him bad news - Got me thinking that I had neither internet or a mobile the last time we were looking for a manger - That brought it home to me just how long this great man had been custodian of our club and that such a lot has happened during those glorious years. Hope we get the next appointment right.

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What about Carl Garner, working miralces at Clitheroe!!!

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wooow,less of the benny hill,hes still a legend in Wigan:)

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In the circumstances, happy with our temporary replacements, it gives us consistency going into what will be a tough game on Saturday, if they do well who knows? If not, I hope the club bring the right person in for the job & don't rush anything.
All the best to Coley & Jimmy in their new venture, must have been a wrench to leave but maybe they just felt it was the right time & right opportunity for them - only they can answer that - for the odd one or two to try & blame the new regime for them going is ridiculous - without that new regime there wouldn't have been a club these past couple of years for them to depart from

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You'd Chedder believe it :D

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You can always tell when there's a time of crisis, along comes a Troll :D

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Took all the team and left them in the lurch as soon as he had a better offer.

No thanks :(

:cool:

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It's what the majority of managers do, will probably find out in the next few weeks that Coley is no different - Managers like to work with what they know.

Re: The King is going......
 

Hi lads Sligo Rovers fan here. I personally think Paul is a shoe in for the job. The actions of our board in recent weeks/month suggest they don't want him there. They've brought in an assistant manager who the board have made no secret of there fondness towards him ( Ian Foster, another scouser I think? ) and are many here in Sligo are touting him to take over from Cook. It would suggest his departure is imminent.

The board also allowed Paul to hold talks with a league rival ( Derry City ) a couple of weeks ago. A move which would have been a step sideways at most, as Sligo finished ahead of Derry last season. The only thing that made the move an ounce of sense was that there is direct flights from Derry to Liverpool. I think Cook's family still live in Liverpool..

He was all set to take the St. Johnstone job in Scotland, compensation agreed too, except he wasn't allowed bring his back room team with him and was told he had to lower the budget. Wasn't happy with that criteria so he pulled out.

Shamrock Rovers also here in Ireland were reportedly after him when Michael O'Neill left to take the Northern Ireland job, but nothing materialised there either.

The fact is, 3 jobs have come up in the past 6 months or so, and he has been firmly in contention for them all. The fact the Sligo board willingly allow him to hold talks with other league rivals, suggest they aren't exactly over the moon with him.

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On a serious note, Carl Garner has more managerial experience than Hoskin yet people on here want him to come cus he used to play for the club. Its ridiculous. Its gotta be a 3 way between Watson, Cook and Flitcroft and to be honest Flitcroft hasn't really done a great deal at Chorley has he. Southport are going fantaticly under Watson and obviously Cook would be the 'fans' choice. Plus he could maybe tap into some sources in Ireland as well as over here.

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Fairly sure without reading back that Hoskin was mentioned as part of a team including Cook. Depends what you mean by managerial experience, does managing a NWC team give you more qualification than managing a team of full time pro's even if it's reserve football.

As has been mentioned before whoever does the job has to not only be a manager on match days, they need to know how the 'business' of league football works and the contacts in it. If they don't know the 'funny' handshakes they would never survive :)

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Odds are in from Stan James.

Paul Cook the 2/1 fav to take over a Liam Watson 5/1 2nd Fav.

Intresting that Tilson, Hamann & Laws get a mention.

StanJames.com - Football - Manager Specials - Next Manager Markets

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WALTS10 - I thought it was an anagram of L WATSon who played number 10 for us!!!!

I think part of the reason that Hoskin would be supported is that yes he played for the club, yes he was incredibly popular with the fans, yes he's a local lad and fully understands the club, town and how the two should be in tangent, but that he has also managed the reserve side and has done a lot of work over the years with the kids, both at Accrington and at Burnley - as well as running his own Youth Development thingy. He has contacts albeit not as many as some others might have

Carl Garner? I can't say I'm familiar with what he has or is acheiving at Clitheroe but its far too down the ladder for him to have contacts at the right end of what we need.

Same could be said for Flitcroft and Jansen, but they do have contacts higher up the leagues particularly through Rovers - and would fetch some Rovers fans into the club

Paul Cook is the most obvious for many reasons but the worry would be whether we could financially match what he would expect for a wage bill or transfer budget.

Watson for me though.

Stan James have betting up on new manager
 

Next Permanent Accrington Stanley Manager

Paul Cook 2/1
Liam Watson 5/1
Leam Richardson 5/1
Mark Patterson 5/1
David Unsworth 6/1
David Flitcroft 7/1
Paul Buckle 7/1
Ronnie Moore 8/1
Garry Flitcroft 8/1
Sammy Mcilroy 8/1
Brian Laws 10/1
Mark Robins 10/1
Richard Money 12/1
Paul Simpson 12/1
Dave Penney 12/1
Steve Tilson 12/1
Geriant Williams 12/1
Didier Hamann 16/1
Andy Ritchie 16/1
Martin Foyle 16/1
Simon Davey 20/1
Others on request. Must be a permanent appointment.

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nb to Cashy !!....

Here's a novelty for you Cashy..a newcomer to our forum who has the temerity to inject a 'serious' note into his posting !... (rather than speaking with the jawbone of an ass ..as many junior members are prone to do !!)...so take it easy on him for a week or two !!.

So young man ( or indeed young lady !).... welcome to THE Forum...and keep on seeing things from the serious perspective !!.

Oh I forgot !!... every success to the new Management Team ...and as John.F.Kennedy said.. .(on a serious note !)

"Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future."

Here's to a bright future for everyone at 'The Crown'.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

and you can leave Sammy Mac out of it as well I reckon! I personally don't think he acheived a great deal at Morecambe. He was manager when they got promoted but I think a lot of that was under Jim Harveys steam. Their FL years saw a play off spot secured one year but for the majority of his tenure their messageboard was constantly littered with Sammy out threads as he was signing journeymen players on big wages and playing crap football.

He'd be expensive and probably a big 'maintenance' as he always seems to be on the telly and linked with every job going which would mean constantly having to improve his contract. Its hardly a secret as well that Morecambe directors had backed him fairly heavily with regards to wages paid etc

Re: Stan James have betting up on new manager
 

Do you work fer Stan James Thrasher?:D:rolleyes:

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Sammy Mac.....................No Thanks.

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Apart from one or two looks like a standard stock list whenever a manager vacancy is available :)

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Thanks for the information, Rover1929 :)

There have been plenty of people at Stanley following the fortunes of Sligo Rovers and wishing you success with all the Stanley connections: not just Paul Cook, but there were about 5 ex-Stanley players in the Sligo side 3-4 years ago.

It's not easy to see your manager being linked to other clubs when he has been so successful for you, but what is your opinion of Paul Cook as a manager?

You have had a lot of success over the last 2/3 seasons, but is that down to the manager or have the Board backed him with money to make the team more competitive? Also, how does he like his team to play?

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Patto is attracting the early money :idunno:

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No mention of Buzzer :p

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Whalley Red,

I think he's the best manager in the league now that Michael O'Neill and even Pat Fenlon have left. We play some great football, and regulary knock teams for six at The Showgrounds, but playing nice football isn't always as effective as the league champions Shamrock Rovers who play more direct and it pays off to be fair. The board have made the funds available for any players Paul wants to bring in. You have to understand a lot of players who sign for clubs in Ireland are free agents, so wages is only an issue.

The departure of Richie Ryan to Dundee Utd freed up a lot of wages to bring in a couple of more, that coupled together with our European money, helped us deliver a 60k profit. No doubt some of that will go to improving the squad. We scored the most and conceded the least in the league last year, but losing Ryan and the leagues top scorer Eoin Doyle to Hibernian leaves a gap, but we've only lost those two and two more I think, so retainly the bulk of last years squad and adding a couple of better quality players will help us make the push for the league.

Cook has the players playing a very fluid style, the full backs overlap the wingers, and are like wing backs at times. The attacking style does leave us open to the counter attack on occasions, but games involving Sligo Rovers rarely end goal less.

Cook has his own philosophy, and I think he'd work well with Accrington Stanley. He's publicly stated he wants to manage in the UK in the near future, can't see a more fitting opportunitly to be honest.

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But chased the lights to the heady heights of Bristol Rovers, who were dire and clueless at Fortress Crown - and still are.

No thanks. Nor Paul Ince.

Paul Cook - Bryan Hughes and Leam Richardson - Unsworth and Alexander (sounds like a firm of Solicitors) ............. etc. We don't want most of the people on the "Usual suspects (failed)" list, although I have an amount of repect for Geraint Williams ...............

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

From RTE Sport
"Sligo Rovers manager Paul Cook has been linked with a move to English League Two club Accrington Stanley.
There is a vacancy at the Liverpool club after John Coleman left to join Rochdale yesterday."

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Unsworth struck me as management material in the latter stages of his career with Sheffield United and Wigan.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Stan Ternent would probably do a decent job for a club like us. Currently working as a scout for Sunderland so a) probably fairly cheap and b) would have a good idea who is around for the right money.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Just looked at the betting list. Please, please not Steve Tilson. He did a dreadful job at Lincoln City. Bought overpriced, useless players and was hated by the fans.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Leam comes across well on the video on the fishy site. Upbeat, positive and knowledgeable.

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Forgot to mention Jon Barlow at Enfield, doing a good job with very limited resources.

Has anybody got a keep-net and some needle nose pliers to take all these hooks out.

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When do you reckon we'll have a new boss by? Is it worth sticking with Leam until the end of the season or do we look to find one before the end of the transfer window?

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Hi lads, Shamrock Rovers fan here. I would be worried if you appointed Cook for the job..

At Sligo he has caused the board to stretch their budget, even paying the players under the table.
As for his commitment, the day after our manager departed Cook was the first person to enquire for the job. He basically prostituted himself for the job and we said a simple no for the kind of person he is and the arrogance he showed towards us in the league when things weren't going well on his end.

He is best to avoid. Sligo fans think they can match our budget with half the gate income, sponsorship, everything really. He will stretch your budget completely and you will find yourself in trouble when things are not going well.

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I hope your defamation insurance is up-to-date :)

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Wouldn't be too worried, there is no budget :D

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What worries me most is have we got the people to make the right selection? This one is probably more important than that of John & Jimmy?

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Agree n in my opinion these should be left until end of season as i said before, The guy knows the club n if Rob n Ilyas think tempory, they should know, then i think its a good case to "Suck It And See"?

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Loads of experts on here, they only need to ask :)

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Paul Cook has been at Sligo for 4 and a half years. His loyalty to the Club has been tremendous. As far as paying players under the table this has been proved to be untrue and Shamrock Rovers fans just cannot let it go that the best manager in the country was not interested in "A BIG CLUB'S" (ha ha) advances. Paul Cook is not a cheque book manager. He has accepted cut backs on several occasions and got on with his job. The board at Sligo have made prudent decisions in conjunction with Cookie. They have not been forced into doing anything. Ease up Shamrock Rovers. Time to get rid of your bitterness and realise there are Clubs outside Tallaght who can win trophies.

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Agreed mate.

Let's be honest, football is a results business.

Win a few games and who knows what will happen :D:D

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The only thing i dont get is why didnt we fight for him. Illyas should of been on that phone trying to persuade him to stay, giving him reassurance of the future as illyas has always pointed out. Rochdale arnt that great of a club and i always will think we could of tried to at least fight for him.

On the brightside we have another season of football league to enjoy but how sweet would it be if the rochdale go down next season and accy go on the up! He always had that dream of league 1 and this season could still be a close one!

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

ALSO Unsworth for manager is a great shout! Great to have liam and hughesy on the touchline! AND on the pitch :)

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How do we know he didn't????? :confused: :)

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That has been bugging me Val also.

Course they faught for him !!!

It was Coley's decision at the end of the day.

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It has been painfully obvious for some time that, even with Ilyas's backing, we don't have the resources to match Coley's ambitions, unfortunately.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Correct, but where have the promises gone, especially at looking at a new ground. Things like that add up..

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Very doubtful if they never tried to keep him n jimmy, :rolleyes:Have yeh ever considered they left cos yeh can't polish a turd?

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Even when they made noises about the new ground I think 2015 was the earliest they said it would happen.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

After watching JC,s interview on ssn I got the impression it was as big a choker for him as it was for us and I don,t think he took the decision lightly he as good as admitted it got him wondering if he was doing the right thing when everybody at the crown was in tears when him and Jimmy resigned yesterday.

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Agree both of em will have been upset i bet,end of the day,we have arguably the worst facilities/smallest fanbase in the league n thats before cash comes into the equasion, so hard as it musta been, i understand the logic, aint over the moon but life goes on, Hope they keep Rochdale in Div 1, I reckon in another 50 yrs or so,when someone writes another "History Of Stanley" Coley n Jimmy will be No1 in that book.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

I'm hoping it's their successors!:alright:

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That would really be summet eh Nige?:alright:

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

The fact that a club of Rochdale's relatively modest means DOES have the resources to match Coley's ambitions in comparison to us is a telling reflection on our predicament.

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Coley and Jimmy had success and promotions in abundance, they also stayed here when they could easily have moved elsewhere. I am betting that they were very well remunerated for that and it could well be a saving grace that a new manager comes in on LESS money than what they earned. That, plus a windfall of compensation could well be a catalyst for the rest of this season or maybe next season.

We've been led to believe that the club is solvent again and operating reasonably within its means. If that is the case then we stand to make a profit now innit!!!

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Maybe working towards being solvent as opposed to travelling to the high court would be a better description. Can't imagine staff cuts suggests it is paying for itself yet, probably somewhere close though

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

good luck to Leam and Bryan a thousand league games between them so give em the job until the end of the season let them set their stall out

I have a feeling it could turn into a POSITIVE

Remember Bury last season they lost Knill/Brass and the youth team manager took over and took them up!

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he has managed other teams, all without success.

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Cook has always worked within budgets but has challenged the board to increase these budgets. This has been done sufficiently to provide a quality squad, but a very small one as we don't have the money Shams have. The club is in the black and Cook gets the very best from what he has.
As for wanting to manage Shams - he's had better offers.

He may or may not be the man for Stanley, hopefully not, but if you decide to take a chance on him and the football is anything like we've been watching for the last few seasons, then you're in for a treat - with or without trophies.

In any case, best of luck with the appointment, whoever it might be.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

I believe Ronnie Moore has submitted his CV to the club.

I personally wouldnt mind Leam taking the role until the end of the season. Give him the option to sign at the end. The lads support him and he has extensive league knowledge.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

stanley management prospects

Moore targets Stanley post | League 2 Football News | Football365

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Common sense post, journeymen, we do not need!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. Are you up on Saturday????

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May see you there then :rolleyes: :D :D

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I cant wait for the chippy at Crewe already :)

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I'm really chuffed that Leam is being given a chance to make his mark in management. I just hope he can distance himself somewhat from his former team mates, as he will have to make some tough decisions re. personnel in the coming weeks.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

tracksuit or 3 piece suit for Leam on saturday?

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3 Piece......................

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That shouldn't be a problem,slong as he keeps well in wi n interpreter.:hehetable

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Low blow Cashy, well below the belt. :D

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I reckon that Liam is a two piece suit man. With room for a cracking STANLEY tie in full view.
Good Luck Liam, 100% backing.

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Probably so, couldn't give a toss if he wears Black Bin Bags slong as he does the business.n am very optimistic he will.:)

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The best comment yet. This is really a bigger decision than Eric took when he appointed Coley. Coley had time to bed in, Unibond, Conference etc plus he had a football man at the helm. Ash is a great lad but a football league reserve side gets coached not managed, Clitheroe to Div 2
I dont think so. The problem is who will make the decision as we have not got a "football man" at the club,

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Nail on the head :)

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Football man, Accrington Stanley man whatever you call him who is there with the experience to make the right call.

Re: The King is gone = new management, who?
 

Setting out what your criteria is, budgets, short term plans, long term plans are probably the easy ones to sort out even on the football side of things the Club I am sure can seek guidance should there be a need.

As others have said Coley grew with the job to the point where in ways he probably outgrew the job.

For the Club he became more than just a manager alongside Jimmy they also became the figureheads,ambassadors and the heartbeat of the Club with their interviews for the press and interactions with us the fans.

There is a real challenge for their succesors to carry on and build on the legacy that John & Jimmy have left, the one thing we have got on our side is time and a wealth of experience between Leam, Bryan & Phil alongside the players already knowing them and also having their support alongside that of us the fans could yet mean the Club need search no further?

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Good positive interview from "Podge" on fishy site, just whats needed, Come On You Reds.:)

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