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North Ender 28-03-2012 09:58

Andy Procter
 
Is there any chance you could take Andy back please? In 20 years of being a season ticket holder, this lad ranks as one of the worst players I've seen wear the shirt.

No pace, no skill, can't pass, can't tackle, can't score. A truly abysmal player.

I'm absolutely gobsmacked at how terrible he is. It's almost beyond comprehension.

Any idea how much we paid you for him?

VALAIRIAN 28-03-2012 10:10

Re: Andy Procter
 
What ever you paid, it was a snip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Proccy is awesome, you just cannot see it!!!!!!!!!

You were poor before Proc came, you have a scumbag for a manager, please look closer to home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Doctor Procters Football Medicine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "Andy Procter waks on water -nananananananana.......(in a Norwegian accent!! :D :D)

AccyMad 28-03-2012 10:27

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What he said! :eek:

p.s. any news on exactly when Weasley's sacking will happen - I'd like a front row seat

North Ender 28-03-2012 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 980528)
What ever you paid, it was a snip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Proccy is awesome, you just cannot see it!!!!!!!!!

You were poor before Proc came, you have a scumbag for a manager, please look closer to home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Doctor Procters Football Medicine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "Andy Procter waks on water -nananananananana.......(in a Norwegian accent!! :D :D)


Westley is garbage, I agree 100% there. We were also very poor before Procter arrived, so I also agree there.

That being said, it does not disguise the fact that Andy is a shocking footballer. I can only assume that something has gone badly wrong with him since he left Accy. He can't have been this bad for you.

North Ender 28-03-2012 10:30

Re: Andy Procter
 
Read this if you want PNE fans view on Procter:

Andy Procter

AccyMad 28-03-2012 10:32

Re: Andy Procter
 
If Proccy lacked anything in skills, he more than made up for that by giving 120% effort every game for Stanley & I can't imagine he's do anything less whoever he is playing for - if that's not good enough for you then yes, send him back home please

North Ender 28-03-2012 10:43

Re: Andy Procter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 980537)
If Proccy lacked anything in skills, he more than made up for that by giving 120% effort every game for Stanley & I can't imagine he's do anything less whoever he is playing for - if that's not good enough for you then yes, send him back home please


He gives 100% every week. No disputing that. However.....that simply isn't good enough. It doesn't compensate for his lack of ability. Hopefully Westley will be potted and Andy will be free to come home. Best case scenario all round.

Stanleymad 28-03-2012 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by North Ender (Post 980541)
He gives 100% every week. No disputing that. However.....that simply isn't good enough. It doesn't compensate for his lack of ability. Hopefully Westley will be potted and Andy will be free to come home. Best case scenario all round.

Hahahaha oh my, concur blame lies with Westley who thought he was so good for league 1, can't blame the player tho I do like proccy his level is really league 2 max (leaving the bias opinion out of it hehe) no good asking us to have him back when Westley clearly sees he walks on water :hehetable

Dazzagee 28-03-2012 13:10

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I'd have him back any day....I was gutted the day he left....he played a good game and got stuck in for Stanley!

maccawozzagod 28-03-2012 14:16

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please start the petition Mr North Ender and send him back, our arms are open and ready for him.

Proccy had his doubters even here but most saw the fact that he was a heart on the sleeve type of player who definitely had a part to play for us. His biggest strength is covering ground and limiting the space that the opposition midfield have to play in - I suspect that against the better League 1 players that isn't good enough as they are more than capable of finding the yard of space that makes 10 yards.

Nobody begrudged him his move and a chance to better himself, and I doubt anybody would begrudge him a starting spot on saturday. We'll waive the balance of the transfer fee and call it a loan payment what you've already spent

smobile 28-03-2012 14:32

Re: Andy Procter
 
Would have him back in a heartbeat, but if he does leave North End, then I think we all know the SPOT he is favourite to LAND on next. :(

Dazzagee 28-03-2012 14:36

Re: Andy Procter
 
Lets see what happens at Summer... Its going to be interesting what Coleman and Westley do in the Transfer Window...

smobile 28-03-2012 14:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzagee (Post 980634)
Lets see what happens at Summer... Its going to be interesting what Coleman and Westley do in the Transfer Window...

With any luck Westley will be selling windows by the summer :p

Pendle Red 28-03-2012 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzagee (Post 980634)
Lets see what happens at Summer... Its going to be interesting what Coleman and Westley do in the Transfer Window...

That is the one thing I fear cherry picking particularly if players are out of contract:(

shakermaker 28-03-2012 18:27

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Andy Procter is the hardest working player I've ever seen. His fans and detractors both gain their respective opinions through the attribute that defines him as a player - his work rate.
On many occasions he was a dynamo for us; spurring his team on to great performances with box-to-box drives. When the team is playing poorly he'll try to drag up a result from nowhere, chasing down lost causes while the rest of the team has admitted defeat. This attracts attention to his performance and ends up with heavy criticism (the term 'headless chicken' has been used with flippant idiocy in recent past).
With the right instructions, a player like Procter would be an asset in any team. From what I've seen of North End, the instructions given to the team are misguided at best.

lancsdave 28-03-2012 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smobile (Post 980635)
With any luck Westley will be selling windows by the summer :p

Let him get on with his job, just a shame he's going to run out of games to do any damage immediatley :D

cashman 28-03-2012 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 980735)
With the right instructions, a player like Procter would be an asset in any team. From what I've seen of North End, the instructions given to the team are misguided at best.

Right instructions shaker?:confused: Does a player need to be told to distribute to yer own?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

shakermaker 28-03-2012 22:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 980819)
Right instructions shaker?:confused: Does a player need to be told to distribute to yer own?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Trust you... :rolleyes:

Point in hand - how much better was Procter when played alongside Luke Joyce in the 4-2-3-1 formation of last term? (And, as an aside, how has Joyce's form dipped without Procter alongside him).

cashman 28-03-2012 23:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 980824)
Trust you... :rolleyes:

Point in hand - how much better was Procter when played alongside Luke Joyce in the 4-2-3-1 formation of last term? (And, as an aside, how has Joyce's form dipped without Procter alongside him).

To be honest shaker i think Joycey had gone off the boil before Proccy left, And as fer 4-2-3-1, Its arguable if that system cost us automatic ?to me wi players we had available last term? I sure as hell have no wish to see that system back.

maccawozzagod 29-03-2012 00:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 980835)
And as fer 4-2-3-1, Its arguable if that system cost us automatic


it was that system which got us into the play offs!!!!

Craney, Ryan and McConville banging 'em in from Gornell's knock backs

we simply didn't have the personnel to play owt else

cashman 29-03-2012 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 980848)
it was that system which got us into the play offs!!!!

Craney, Ryan and McConville banging 'em in from Gornell's knock backs

we simply didn't have the personnel to play owt else

Disgree Rob, we didn't really have personnel to play what were playing now, but players are adapting n fer me its far better to watch.;)

maccawozzagod 29-03-2012 10:31

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i'm not sure what we're playing now having only watched the Morecambe game in recent weeks, but is it not 4-4-2 with two wingers, which Grant and Devitt are? and they do a bit of wing switching so they can cut in on their preferred shooting feet?

smudgie 29-03-2012 15:05

Re: Andy Procter
 
Back to the original point.................. As good as Proccy was, for me personally he is a League Two player.

Make no mistake his commitment is 100%, is fitter than anybody else on the park, but he can lack that cutting edge.

Would I have him back?? 100% yes, as I believe in our division every team needs a Proccy type player in their side. Agreed with the post about Joyce, his form has dropped dramatically since Proccy left.

Will he get the time at Preston??? Probably not, which is a shame. But football is like that sometimes.

Alvin the chipmunk 29-03-2012 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 980848)
it was that system which got us into the play offs!!!!

Craney, Ryan and McConville banging 'em in from Gornell's knock backs

we simply didn't have the personnel to play owt else

I agree 100%. This system for me produced some outstanding attacking play without doing a Keegan and making us leaky at the back. Saw a BBC article where Coley said he was inspired by Spain at the World Cup to try and implement this at Accy.

As for Proccy...well much like Mullin a player that many are appreciating only after he has gone. Given time he will come good at PNE but whether he will get that time is debateable.

Perhaps "Agent Andy" planned to come back all along and is just trying to get revenege on Mr Westley. ;)

maccawozzagod 29-03-2012 16:54

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if so Alvin then his status as club legend will be forever cemented and i'll pay twice next time I go up!

Haggis316 31-03-2012 14:05

Re: Andy Procter
 
Sheffield Wednesday beat Preston easily today. 2-0 flattered them. There was a cheer when Chris Holroyd came on for Preston after 84 minutes.

Haggis316 31-03-2012 16:19

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Owlszone is abuzz with some story on Sky Sports about Westley having words with some of his players after Full Time at Hillsborough.

Div3North 31-03-2012 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 981531)
Owlszone is abuzz with some story on Sky Sports about Westley having words with some of his players after Full Time at Hillsborough.

If I heard Jeff Stelling right, the expression he used was "big confrontation" - but it sounded like the players started it ........;)

smudgie 31-03-2012 16:26

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Lets all laugh at Westley, NA NAAAAAA NA NA :D

Tommy McQueen 31-03-2012 18:11

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On radio lancs tonight Wesley said he had been told by the Shefield bench that his team had been leaked by some of the Preston players before the game, giving advantage to Shefield, trouble int mill I fear.

lancsdave 31-03-2012 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy McQueen (Post 981562)
On radio lancs tonight Wesley said he had been told by the Shefield bench that his team had been leaked by some of the Preston players before the game, giving advantage to Shefield, trouble int mill I fear.


He really does come up witrh some rubbish. Everybody else's fault

smobile 31-03-2012 20:01

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Hate the man. Not the right fit for a decent club like Preston. Don't like looking for their results and hoping they've lost. Can't help it though while he's there.

Haggis316 31-03-2012 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy McQueen (Post 981562)
giving advantage to Shefield, trouble int mill I fear.

Sheffield did not need an advantage to beat Preston on that performance.

smudgie 31-03-2012 20:10

Re: Andy Procter
 
Along with Steve Evans & Mark Roberts........... The most disgusting man in football.

smobile 31-03-2012 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 981588)
Along with Steve Evans & Mark Roberts........... The most disgusting man in football.

Agreed. Vermin. All 3 of them.

shakermaker 31-03-2012 20:44

Re: Andy Procter
 
Watch out Graham...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2opHHNFd0Mg

smudgie 31-03-2012 20:48

Re: Andy Procter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smobile (Post 981596)
Agreed. Vermin. All 3 of them.


I like you smobile :alright::alright::alright::alright::alright::alri ght::alright::alright::alright:

tonyalveston 01-04-2012 10:46

Re: Andy Procter
 
We are urgently in need of a Procter in terms of effort!! We saw another pathetic performance from Barnett (lazy ). The player has the ability when he wants to make an effort, as in the last 20 mins today.
The way Cook is playing, we dont need a midfield,if he continues to simply boot the ball long.
We have been used to playing to feet from the back, which makes for entertaining football, so lets get back to basics please

Cook was such a good player himself, so why this shocking long ball game?

shakermaker 01-04-2012 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyalveston (Post 981677)
We are urgently in need of a Procter in terms of effort!! We saw another pathetic performance from Barnett (lazy ). The player has the ability when he wants to make an effort, as in the last 20 mins today.
The way Cook is playing, we dont need a midfield,if he continues to simply boot the ball long.
We have been used to playing to feet from the back, which makes for entertaining football, so lets get back to basics please

Cook was such a good player himself, so why this shocking long ball game?

Maybe it's because of the fact that we do not have a midfield to play through?!

I thought our long ball game was very clever yesterday. Podge smartly made the most of Wimbledon's high back line on goal kicks and our wingers made a lot of the second balls. I'm sure that once Cook gets to build his side in the summer we will see more intricate tactics but for now we have to work with what we have.

cashman 01-04-2012 12:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 981688)
Maybe it's because of the fact that we do not have a midfield to play through?!

I thought our long ball game was very clever yesterday. Podge smartly made the most of Wimbledon's high back line on goal kicks and our wingers made a lot of the second balls. I'm sure that once Cook gets to build his side in the summer we will see more intricate tactics but for now we have to work with what we have.

Whilst i dislike the long ball,thats my conclusion, Disagree wi Tony about Barnett, Ok he was much better second half, I reckon that display will have helped his confidence, After all hes only a kid n experience will come. can remember Bobby Grant n others,who when just trying to get established, never looked that great, I can see a good future fer Barnett if he carries on learning n at some stage will make stanley a bob or two.

tonyalveston 01-04-2012 14:49

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I do not disagree with Shakermaker or Cashman, but we have been used to flowing football! As i said Barnett has the ability, but he does need to display a sense of interest, determination and Im sure he will progress.

It was obvious that Cook had given him a good talking to at half time, may it long continue.

winstanley asfc 01-04-2012 19:14

Re: Andy Procter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 981588)
Along with Steve Evans & Mark Roberts........... The most disgusting man in football.

Mark Roberts was at Stanley during the period i was in hospital and recovering at home, therefore i don't know anything about him apart from seeing him on the ITV documentory series in September 2008. I'm curious as to why he's so bad?:confused: ;)

smudgie 01-04-2012 19:45

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He constantly slates us....................... plus he got Mcconville deliberately sent off in the Playoff's last season.

He was useless when we had him....... and STILL IS !!

Revived Red 02-04-2012 09:33

Re: Andy Procter
 
At the risk of having a plague wished upon me by some posters, I feel that Mark Roberts does not deserve some of the venom directed at him. When he was at Stanley, let's not forget that he spent most of his time doing his own job at centre back and at the same time covering for a lump of dough named Graham Branch (not one of Coley's better signings). Roberts himself seemed to fall out with Coley and that is the reason for his antipathy to Accy - it's not about the club.

As for the play off incident, McConville got himself sent off.

It seems unlikely that he is "still useless" - surely his performances for Satange, especially against higher opposition in cup games, suggest otherwise. :hidewall:

smudgie 02-04-2012 09:41

Re: Andy Procter
 
There are only 3 men I hate in football, he is one im afraid. and always will be.

Alvin the chipmunk 02-04-2012 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 981906)
At the risk of having a plague wished upon me by some posters, I feel that Mark Roberts does not deserve some of the venom directed at him. When he was at Stanley, let's not forget that he spent most of his time doing his own job at centre back and at the same time covering for a lump of dough named Graham Branch (not one of Coley's better signings). Roberts himself seemed to fall out with Coley and that is the reason for his antipathy to Accy - it's not about the club.

As for the play off incident, McConville got himself sent off.

It seems unlikely that he is "still useless" - surely his performances for Satange, especially against higher opposition in cup games, suggest otherwise. :hidewall:

I agree. A useful if limited defender who I though coped admirably in a struggling side. As for McConville having watched it back he had to go. As for Senior Westley, g well let's just say I am more than willing to hand him his P45 in person should Preston require my services!! :) Shame hes an absolute ****** because hes showed at Satanage he can be a great manger, much as I hate both him and the club. :)

Redraine 02-04-2012 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 981906)
At the risk of having a plague wished upon me by some posters, I feel that Mark Roberts does not deserve some of the venom directed at him. When he was at Stanley, let's not forget that he spent most of his time doing his own job at centre back and at the same time covering for a lump of dough named Graham Branch (not one of Coley's better signings). Roberts himself seemed to fall out with Coley and that is the reason for his antipathy to Accy - it's not about the club.

As for the play off incident, McConville got himself sent off.

It seems unlikely that he is "still useless" - surely his performances for Satange, especially against higher opposition in cup games, suggest otherwise. :hidewall:

The voice of reason speaks again!

Greeny 02-04-2012 11:32

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I agree with Smudge , Mark Roberts DID get Mc Conville sent off.He walked up to linesman , spoke to him,then the linesman approached the ref who then shown the red card. When Roberts played for Stanley he netted an own goal on two consecutive matches, Don't like the man.

Redraine 02-04-2012 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 981936)
Mark Roberts DID get Mc Conville sent off..

Good for him. Macca was absolute rubbish in both play off legs.

Alvin the chipmunk 02-04-2012 12:29

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Regardless of what Roberts said to the lino.....McConville raised his hands. In this Andrex era (Overpriced and super soft) he had to go. IMHO of course. :)

shakermaker 02-04-2012 17:01

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Roberts is just one of those generally loathsome characters in football. Did a job for us for a certain time but was caught for pace on many occasions; never missed. He didn't respond to Coley's attempts to improve him as a player, just like Byrom, but responded to Westley's methods. They must fall into that rather odd bracket of men that like to be dominated. Ooerr.

maccawozzagod 02-04-2012 17:04

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where's that fence for me to sit on?

I'm with everybody here!

When he played for us I could have gone either way with Roberts, I wasn't surprised that he left but nor would I have been surprised had we built a team around him. He was part of a very poor Stanley side that contained such luminaries as Sean Whalley, Jay Harris, Graham Branch, Sean Webb, Robbie Williams etc - and he was the stand out amongst them.

I always liked him since his flowing blonde mullet rose majestically at the back stick to nod home on his debut away at Clitheroe, something we had missed since the halcyonic days of Jonny Smith


But when he left he became the bedrock upon which Westley built his house of iron. He became the epitome of everything one despises about Westley and the teams he builds. Sure, he got McConville sent off and was a reet dirty git away at Satanage, but I'd have him again in a shot. for me he was the best defender in League 2 last season and haasn't looked out of place in League 1.

VALAIRIAN 02-04-2012 17:06

Re: Andy Procter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 981938)
Good for him. Macca was absolute rubbish in both play off legs.

There you go again, you just cannot help yourself when it comes to Macca!! :D What on earth you will be like when he is at The Crown next season is anybody's guess ;) :D :D :D

By the way, there is a seperate thread about Macca, did not know if you had seen it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: :D

Redraine 02-04-2012 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 981978)
:D What on earth you will be like when he is at The Crown next season is anybody's guess ;) :D :D :DD

I'll probably get myself arrested. You know very well I've retired from that other excruciatingly irritating thread.

Haggis316 02-04-2012 20:25

Re: Andy Procter
 
When Proccie was substituted at Hillsborough Rob Staton the Radio Sheffield commentator did not know what to make of the Preston fans' reaction.

Revived Red 10-05-2012 20:22

Re: Andy Procter
 
So Proccy has survived Westley's cull at Deepdale. I wonder if there are any potential signings there for us.

VALAIRIAN 10-05-2012 20:24

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Noticed though he is no longer captain!!!

Revived Red 10-05-2012 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 991016)
Noticed though he is no longer captain!!!

And that's rather a surprise, Joe. There can't be many other players to choose a captain from!

maccawozzagod 10-05-2012 20:31

Re: Andy Procter
 
it says in the article that he 'has relinquished the armband' as agreed when he signed.

Seems a strange one to me, "come and be captain for a few weeks and then give it up when we sign someone else"

Mark Roberts?

Larry Lobster 11-05-2012 11:38

Re: Andy Procter
 
That's Westley for you. The man's a complete fruitcake. The North End fans are split right down the middle, Half think Westley is the what the club needs, the other half, think (and hope) he'll be sacked before September. Unfortunately all are agreed that the move to Preston has been a disaster for Andy Procter. It's been suggested he may be a summer target for Rochdale.

Revived Red 11-05-2012 11:44

Re: Andy Procter
 
At the risk of moving off topic, I wonder if there is any chance of a very close relative of yours being a summer target for us, Larry.:)

VALAIRIAN 18-12-2012 20:16

Re: Andy Procter
 
Started again tonight and scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

smudgie 18-12-2012 20:47

Re: Andy Procter
 
It is the JPT................

MikeA 19-12-2012 07:40

Re: Andy Procter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1032887)
Started again tonight and scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And then scored PNE's first penalty in the shoot-out, that PNE won 5-4.

Div3North 19-12-2012 19:04

Re: Andy Procter
 
Didn't score many pens for us ...........I haven't forgotten that abomination against Tony Roberts in the last minute v the Daggers at the Clayton End :o

maccawozzagod 20-12-2012 23:44

Re: Andy Procter
 
did you forget the ten in a row he scored prior to that miss (and the one after it before Sunbeds took over)?


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