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Top and bottom of it is that we will get the man most of us wanted in the first place (leam), hopefully a good bit of dosh in compo and enough time to turn things around and shoot up the table.
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I feel we have been used and abused by cook, a way to get back into English football. Why has our form been so abysmal since the Chesterfield game. His record per se has been appalling and it certainly didn't look like getting any better, yet we are a club that support and our aspirations may not be to win the league but we do ask for loyalty and respect and I feel that this individual has not respected that.
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Paul Cook...His Stanley record...W8 D7 L18...34 goals for, 57 conceded
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Abusive language is, rightly so, outlawed from this forum so you will have to refer to my Facebook status to know what I really think of Paul Cook. I only hope he doesn't take Leam with him and I hope Leam is now given his chance. It runs the risk of being a long season but the club is bigger than any individual. I only hope that 8 games in to his reign at Chesterfield he gets sacked, finds himself without employment, and has his house re-possessed for failing to make the payments. After the Torquay match he said he was doing an interview out of respect to the supporters and moments later he canned it; Paul, you have no idea what respect is and I hope that Chesterfield show you none. Good riddance; your record says it all. Look how well Sligo did once you had left them.
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We have been betrayed. What a pathetic coward of a man he has turned out to be. Don't know how he can sleep tonight.
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Is cook the reason Bryan Hughes didn't sign up? Is cook the reason Phil hackney left, is cook the reason hatch and hopper cancelled their contracts due to loan players walking into the squad? Is cook the reason that energy prices keep going up above inflation?
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Look at the turnover of non-playing staff and playing staff, since Cook took the reins! All to no avail. Questions must be asked! Why did the board change their minds so quickly after stating that Leam Richardson, Phil Hackney and Bryan Hughes would be given time as there was no immediate need to replace JC and JB? The Club were on the fringes of the play offs when Cook arrived!! His man management skills must be under question as well considering the way he has handled staff.
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On a positve note Chesterfield think they have signed the drummer from the Sex Pistols with Steve Jones Glen Matlock and Johnny Rotten to follow as his backroom staff. Which should Leam with us!
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He's gone.
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It leads me to think they were well conned. n thats not intended as a reflection on em.
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Sacked by Southport,
Walked out on Sligo, Walked out on Stanley mid-season Says it all. Just hope it reads sacked by Chesterfield in a few months time. |
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Good riddance to Judas Cook. Well shot of him.
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Happy said after york game we need to get rid. Wel sold to chesterfield. Send all poooo lones bk too
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why would they want a drummer when they got Tommy Lee?
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What I don,t understand about all this is why Chesterfield would be prepared to pay out compo on a manager with a contract who,s only claim to fame is to lead a team in Ireland to sucess in what every year is only a two horse race, has had a stab at conference footie and failed and has not really set the world on fire at Accy.
Apart from him being a reasonably nice approachable chap what on earth do Chesterfield think they have got it,s absolutely beyond me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with some of the name,s on the footie managers out of work list i would have thought that there was somebody on it that would have suited there league one aspirations better and they could have got him for nowt. Anyways onwards and upwards on the roller coaster that is stanley, back Leam to the hilt and get Phil back as no2 and the mighty reds will rise again!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Well that's that then. The galling thing to me ........is that we paid Sligo compensation to secure his services!!!:(
If you apply for a job in other walks of life, any prospective employer will look at a candidate and often, if the employer thinks the candidate will walk out of the job he's interviewed for, for something better at the first available chance, the candidate won't be offered the job in the first place!!!:o Admittedly the club probably wasn't to know Cook was going to do this, no doubt we'll get the same old line of "we didn't want to stand in his way " but Cook has shown total disregard and disrespect to A.S.F.C. and more importantly the fans of this club.:mad: A few weeks ago, I was singing Cook's praises, saying how refreshing his approach to management was. Now, like many others, I've got the sick taste of betrayal upon my lips.:mad: I don't think Cook will be getting anywhere near the same welcome Coley got the other week when he shows up at the Crown in the new year with his new employers.:rolleyes::mad: |
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Been Reading the Chesterfield message boards and to say the fans are totally underwhelmed is an understatement.
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Never gonna get any answers to this one so aint gonna loose any sleep over it but to my way of thinking this is connected to something much more deep rooted within the club.
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The whole mentality of football now is "get as much money in as possible, sod the fans". I used to love our old Saltergate ground simply because when we were there the club knew that they needed us, would treat us with a bit of respect. Then we moved to the B2net/Proact stadium and us supporters were just people who were invited to the party, then after a while it felt like we were gatecrashers at the party. Its not as much fun now as it was when we were at Saltergate. What I'm saying is this. When we went to yours it was a really good atmosphere inside that ground, you had your chants, you went two nil up and made a real fist of the match which added to the atmosphere. My lad proper enjoyed it. Don't lose that atmosphere just because you had a manager that (to be fair) has messed you about. OK, give him some stick but don't forget that there's gonna be blokes with there sons in the away end so please don't make the atmosphere a hostile one because you have a fantastic little ground there, proper friendly. |
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Makes you wonder who bought him that pint after the Chesterfield game he was banging on about! :confused:
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Look at John Sheridan, wins two trophies in two seasons and gets hounded out of the club because we were relegated with three games left of the season. Gotta hope that if Paul Cook hits the ground running its gonna be like Bolt cos if not then he's got a long long 2.5 yrs ahead of him. |
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Just goes to show how fickle football can be we have been fortunate until this last year of having a settled managerial hot seat then we have a turnover of managers. The Board took a chance with Paul Cook with no real track record in the FL and now he has moved on no real bitterness from me we were on a shocking run.
Time for the Board to take stock no real rush to appoint full time unless it can be agreed to move Leam up to number one which would make perfect sense. Leam knows the players has the respect of the fans and would give stability straight away, we move on to Saturday with a clean slate for everybody and a chance to put three points on the Board. |
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I hold my hands up, there was me yesterday morning defending Cook & asking folk to give him time, well he obviously wasn't prepared to offer us that courtesy which to my mind is a smack in the face to Stanley after they gave him the chance to get back into English football management, we always knew we'd be a stepping stone for him but I don't think anyone thought he'd abandon ship at the first opportunity - what happened to wanting to mould his own team - obviously a crock of bull!
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I think him leaving will be a good move for all parties.
Stanley are on a poor trot and they get to change direction without paying compensation to a manager they may have eventually had to sack and indeed get some compensation. |
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Accy Observer running it as he has gone Paul Cook leaves Accrington Stanley to become Chesterfield's new manager | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk |
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Going back to the fans forum he held and the questions asked.
1/ Do you see Dean Winnard as a full back or centrehalf - PC 'a centre half,I like my full backs to get forward'?? 2/ Loan players - PC 'looking to sign players for the nucleus of the side,loans just to come in to cover injury/suspensions'?? 3/Iain Dunbavin as your no.1 ,said very little,other than he had his limitations. 4/We need to be more physical,and a bigger side - Pierre Mingoia signs on loan We have no recognised right back at the club,presumably signed Lewis Hatch - released. |
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I Liked what i heard when Cooky first came to the club,but it now sounds like "talks a good game",which we are all good at.
The more i think about it,he would tell young players they are good enough to play at an higher level,then drop them for a loan player the next week. This doesnt work on experienced players,so Coidy,Hughes etc..were probably forced out with rediculous contract offers. On the other hand,i would be interested in what Liam really thinks,as i always found him as straight as an arrow. Didnt Lewis Hatch mention false promises,first year pros being released before October??. No doubt everything will come out in the wash,as the Ultras said,"nobody is bigger than the club",and the team will need the fans support during a very testing time. PS - These are my own views !!! |
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That sounds a fair assessment Football19, Its a very nice way of putting what i said, The mans a SNAKE.:D;)
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Don't know about anyone else but, after the last three performances, I'm already looking forward to seeing (or rather hearing from this distance) what Leam Richardson can do. Last time (was it only eight months ago?) I thought he was not given enough time.
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"Stanley boss Paul Cook will be unveiled as the new manager of Chesterfield today. Cook has signed a two-and-a-Half year deal with the Spireites after the two League Two rivals agreed a compensation package. The Reds are expected to receive a six-figure compensation fee for Cook. Assistant Leam Richardson is expected to take charge of the Stanley team for Saturday’s home clash with Bristol Rovers although it’s believed Cook may also want Richardson to join him at the Proact Stadium. Stanley physio Les Parry, the former Tranmere manager, is not under contract with the Reds but is also expected to be in the Stanley dug-out on Saturday. The rumours started on Monday of the Spireites’ interest in the 45-year-old Stanley boss. By Tuesday they had gathered pace with the manager taking charge of what should prove to be the final match of his fledgling Stanley career – a 1-0 defeat to York. Cook didn’t appear for the press conference after the game and by Wednesday morning, it was confirmed that Chesterfield had made an official approach for the Stanley boss. Chairman Peter Marsden spent all day on Wednesday negotiating a compensation package with Chesterfield as Cook has only been in charge of the Reds for eight months – and still has two-and-a-half years to run on his current deal. "It did come as a surprise," said managing director Rob Heys, who helped to appoint Cook in February after long-serving boss John Coleman left to join Rochdale. "It would have been nice to have Paul Cook at the club longer as I really believe it could have been a special time at the club and Paul has been a pleasure to work with. "But we always knew Paul was ambitious and, like John Coleman before him, we would never stand in anyone’s way. "Managers, like players, want to operate at the highest level they can and if they come here, improve us and improve themselves and then move on then we can only wish them well. "It was no surprise to us that Paul was attracting interest. He had done fantastically well at Sligo, he is well known in football and, up until a couple of weeks ago, we were in the promotion spots. "We knew clubs would be looking at him and we are only sorry it has been so brief, should the deal be finalised." Coleman was in charge of the Reds for 13 years before Cook took over for a brief eight-month spell. "It’s still a new manager every six years," smiled Heys who will now step up the hunt, along with Marsden, for a new Reds manager. Richardson is the favourite but his own future remains up in the air. "We need to sit down and talk to Leam," said Heys. "It has obviously all happened quickly this week but we would hope that Leam would want to carry on the work he and Paul have begun. "It would be great if he stayed on and helped to take the team forward but, if he goes, then we wish him well too and look elsewhere. "You want managers here for the long-term and Paul had begun putting things in place and now we hope whoever comes in will carry it on. "Just because one man has left there is no reason to think everything will suddenly stop." Several players admitted they are ‘gutted’ by Cook’s imminent departure with striker Padraig Amond and frontman Rommy Boco tempted back to the club by Cook being the man in charge of the Reds. "It’s a real shock," said captain Luke Joyce. "None of us expected it and it has happened really quickly. "But we wish him well and, as a group, we now have to stick together and hopefully get a win on Saturday." Stanley have lost four on the bounce but the last time Richardson was in charge, when Coleman left in January, he helped them to a 4-3 win over Gillingham. "It we can do that again, it would be nice," added Joyce. Richardson, who has a young family, does have a tough decision to make as to whether to stay at the club or go with Cook to Chesterfield. The assistant, who is still registered as a player, is the longest serving player at the Crown Ground, being there since 2005. STANLEY travel to Evo-Stik side AFC Fylde in the first round of the FA Cup on Saturday, November 3." |
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Widnes Viking posted that on this thread Billy, its from the Accy observer, Chesterfield forum have snaffled it from yon.:D
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Cook has gone the interest now switches to our players will they follow Cookie
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[QUOTE]["It has obviously all happened quickly this week but we would hope that Leam would want to carry on the work he and Paul have begun.
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Read through this thread twice and all I can say is ................nothing not worth wasting time.
I'll still see the same faces in the same places on Saturday. :) ON STANLEY ON |
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Really hope that Leam stays and gets the job which he should have got in the first place. I hope he comes out today and says he wants to stay and wants the job, not hang on to hear if Cook is willing to take him. It's easy to say you want to stay, knowing you don't have options - Do it now Leam.
BUT, if he goes, then he goes and we will move on to better things. People need to be at this club for the right reasons and nothing else. Yes, they can come to better themselves and move on, but put some bloody spadework in first. We were spolied by Coleys loyalty and were in an undoubtably better position when he moved on. Cook has done nothing for the club in terms of moving us forward. A win percentage of less than 25 :eek: Good Riddance to Paul Cock. |
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Rob H was on radio lancs this morning,it will be on bbc iplayer if anyone could find and post..
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From personal contact...from listening to his shallow utterances at open forums....from inadequate post-match interviews, the thought always crossed my mind that Paul Cook was NOT skilled or experienced enough to manage The Reds or any other Football League Club, but rather a reasonably good ex-player attempting to find some future in the game !!.....a quotation came to mind relating to another of life's failures ! :-
"He is like a ship with a great deal of sail but a very shallow keel, fast but easily wrecked on the rocks of life ! "..... If there is any truth in my observation then Mr C might well be sailing into uncharted waters that will prove to be his downfall...we shall see !!. As to The Reds it is now more certain than ever that a strong and steadying hand is needed to reverse the current decline in form...to instill confidence throughout the Team...and to convince the Fans that there is still some integrity to be found in Football Management !!. ( ps.. Cashy !.... Is the 'snake' you had in mind a Cobra or a Boa Constrictor ?... seems that both species have only one thing in common, so your simile gets a Karma from yours truly !). |
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Leam is a very young not-quite-manager and would be FAR better served staying at a club where he knows he has stability. He would be given time by the club and the fans to build a squad in his own image. It would be fairly pressure free for him and "his young family" (used in mitigation by RH as possible excuse for him leaving)
Going to Chesterfield would be pinning his colours to Paul Cooks flag until such time as he can strike out under his own steam. He (they) would be given a very short time by the fans to get things under control, the board would give them longer as they wouldn't want to pay up their contracts. If things didn't pan out this season they would be unemployed and relatively unemployable - Cook especially. Early on in a career it is important to develop and show what you are all about, if all you are showing is a willingness to move easily then your results must stand up to inspection. Stay where you Leam and carve yourself a legend |
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Not being negative,but doesnt Liam live over that way?,save on his petrol !!!:)
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Love the "Ads by Google" at the top of the page - :bye2:
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We like the man ! He got the team passing to each other, playing the triangles etc.
Feel he didn't give the interview because of the situation but mainly because he was giving the officials a real earfull as they left the pitch at the end of the game.Probably carried on in the changing rooms.Having said this we feel very, very let down .If this has been in the air some time, does it explain lack of form? Leam standing in again or will he get the chancehe deserves? |
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What really brasses me off, is the simple fact the club are having to wait fer confirmation from Chesterfield.:mad: It just demonstrates to me how little Cook cares fer Stanley, Its common courtesy if yer starting a fresh job, to notify the company yer leaving of this, is it not? Seems to me like the man cannot be bothered,:( Stanley deserve better fer the chance it gave Cook imho.:mad:
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Nail on head as per cashy.
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What happens if the deal falls through for any reason?
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Paul Walker has confirmed it at Chesterfield's end on Twitter.
Sinnabit Paul. View From The Cow Shed: Paul Cook leaves Accrington |
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Yet Stanley no nothing at the mo:( ASFC News Story > 5024
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Good riddance.
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Also yeh missed -To Bad Rubbish smudge.;)
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Hope Paul Cook has the audacity and courtesy to sign off with an interview perhaps a Thankyou for Stanley, the players and the fans.
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Think the club would be wise to try to ensure continuity n offer Leam a rise n contract P.D.Q. What would he say in n interview ash? he will crap on Chesterfield as well, soon as a better offer comes along, Cos thats a knocking bet.
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"I'm delighted to be the new Chesterfield/Accrington/Next Mugs** manager," said Cook. "It's a fantastic club with a great infrastructure and I'm really looking forward to the challenge."
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Well said smobile.
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I have never booed any returning player/Manager in me lifetime, but will make n exception in the case of this SNAKE.:(
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New years day we play Chesterfield, should be an interesting start to the year.
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Well thank goodness that,s over I just hope the board at Chesterfield Know what they are doing they have no hoper in my opinion we are well shut and we got some dosh.
Stanley now move on hopefully with someone who has our special little club at heart. Aint ever seen anybody get a hostile reception at the crown ground but gonna take a days leave for the return of el cookio cos its one not to be missed. Taxi for Cook!!!!!!!!! an keep the engine running when ya get to Chesterfield driver as he won,t be there long. |
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i just hope stanley hav'nt printed the programme for saturday yet, i don't want to see cook's miserable face, on the gaffers page,
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despite having a reasonable education I never realised there were two c's in cook!
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not wi my knee's mate, there cream crackered,
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Can I just add how pleased I was that the fishy website doesn't sign off the article by saying that they thank him for everything he has done and wish him all the best for the future. I hope he loses his job before Christmas and finds himself unable to manage anything other than an U8 team in Liverpool.
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Coley was a love affair, Cook was just a fling - Cheap, Dirty, sleazy and meaningless.
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Evening all
There will be reaction from the Stanley side of things tomorrow; Leam and Luke Joyce amongst others plus the usual match preview (there's a game going on - who would've thought it eh?) Just finished an almost full programme rewrite for Saturday so that should have plenty of interest (hopefully!) Lastly, apologies for the INFURIATING wait for any official updates today. "Blood from a stone" springs to mind! Dan |
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I bet cooks back at sligo this time next year.He never had stanley at heart, hopefully when he leaves chesterfield it will be, because he has been sacked.I just hope our club doesnt become a managerial merry go round, after what had been a long progession of success and stability under coley and jimmy.
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I have to admit, I havn't read all these posts OR details about his departure, BUT, if he can pull stumps on Accy just like that, GOOD RIDDANCE..a waste of space.
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Glad it's all over a protracted negotiation does not help anybody, it will take a while for the dust to settle on why he has moved, why take the Stanley job in the first place, why leave something behind that you have started to rebuild etc.
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Greetings from a Sligo resident who has followed Paul Cooks career there with interest. The feelings that I have seen on your are similar to those expressed in Sligo when he left Rovers in the lurch on the eve of the season. Two wins out of three consecutive Cup Finals means that Paul Cook will always be a big name in Rovers' history but the manner of his departure left a sour taste, that his replacement Ian Barraclough has just won the League title for the club has meant that memories of the Cook era have faded a bit quicker than anyone expected.
The feeling in Sligo was that Cook left Rovers for a smaller club to be closer to home and to get one of those rare things in football a fairly stable job. After all Accrington don't have a reptutation fot dismissing managers often. The work he did with Rovers in taking them from not long promoted side to become one of the top teams in the country was remarkable and in doing so he used of his qualities to best effect. If I look back I would have to say that he did a great job in managing his players and getting the best out of them, but more than that he used every bit of luck he got to best advantage. The luckiest thing going for him was that he came into Rovers at a time when there was a really strong committee who sorted out the finances and allowed him the cash that he needed to rebuild his squad. All that said I thought that he would be at Stanley for life and that you would hover above mid table and hit the play offs occasionally with good cup runs interspersed throughout because I think that that is the type of manager Cookie is. I suspect that his tenure at Chesterfield will be interesting because they will want more than that. The lesson from the Rovers experience for you guys is that if you keep getting the basic stuff in running the club at your committe levels right success will come. There is life after Paul Cook, from everything I have read I think that Leam Richardson is your man and so long as the structures are right the rest will follow. One last thing with 6000 people due at the Showgrounds tonight to see Rovers get the League Trophy, Champions league football on its way next season ( well for one game at least !) and Paul Cook on his way to Chesterfield, how does Rommy feel now ? Best of luck to Stanley |
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Luck will always be a vital factor in any game where there's a ball involved, and with hindsight, Stanley (and Cook) made the most of their's earlier in the season with away wins at Southend and Cheltenham. But the performances against Torquay and Oxford were not just down to luck turning bad. As for Rommy, he may well feel as let down as the rest of us but, unlike his former boss, he will remain a fans' favourite whist he continues to give his all for the team. |
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Pretty sure Rommy wont be able to go in January as he will have played for 3 clubs in a season. Does that stand for any club or just English clubs?
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yes gaz your should be regreting it, i am going to remind you of it for the rest of your life, trust me
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