Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Worst in our league history or worst in our all time history?

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

To clarify, by worst I am refering to his points total to games ratio.

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Regardless of points ratios I believe a certain Welsh lollipop man would probably contest that honour.

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That was a strange way of wishing him Happy 60th birthday today :)

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How did you know it was his birthday?

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Its not negative, I am being realistic.
We are sleep walking into relegation under the excuse of 'loyalty' to a manager who is not delivering.
Leam has bee a good servant to the club, but the FACTS show his reign as manager to be a disaster.

This is not about being anti Leam, no Stanley fan could be anti Leam, he is a nice bloke who has worked hard for the club.
But we are in a race to the bottom, and the only thing we are able to change to see an improvement is the manager.

Coleman and Bell would keep us up, but the longer we leave it, the games are ticking away, the points are not being collected and our rivals are making gains.

You may not like the FACTS, but they speak alot louder than any words on a forum.

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

nah it has to be Alty/Styring's effort in the early 90's

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It's ok saying Coleman and bell wud keep us up but does any1 know if they wud be actually interested in taking over. It wud be a huge gamble for them in my opinion. Coming into a very grave situation with no funds to bring in fresh talent. If they where to oversee a relegation there reputation wud suffer a lot. Whilst I agree that something has to give soon to keep on harping on about Coleman and bell just smells like some1 with an agenda

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Yes,
I have an agenda.
An agenda of keeping stanley in the football league.

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Yep strictly on points to ratio of games played I think you may be correct in saying Leam has the worst record, but that does not make him automatically the worst manage in Stanley’s history, there are a lot more statistics to take into account for the run of bad form, the obvious fact is the balance of payments that restrict the acquirement of quality players, the only circumstances for criticising the manager can be on No. 1 tactics No. 2 team choice No. 3 motivation of the players, on tactics and motivation, I have trust in the manager if he holds his job then the board must have confidence in him, on team choice is think fans always tend to disagree, personally I think Beattie I an albatross around the team neck

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Ok so were do stanley get the money from to pay off Leam's remaining 2yr contract and then pay the wages of a new manager!! jc wont come cheap nor will anyone else for that matter.

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well said mab! it's the board decision to make anyway

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Um another guy with a crystal ball, A, I doubt very much that Coleman and Bell would return, and if they did why are you so sure they would keep Stanley up, maybe if people like you got off Richardsons back everybody would be singing off the same hymn sheet.

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Of course, thats why we cant score, win or draw, because some fans dare ask questions about how bad we are.

If we blind ourselves and support the manager we will stay up, why didnt I think of that.

When you remove the cover of 'support and loyalty' from your eyes, you will wake up to Stanley in the conference.

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The best thing for Leam is to be removed from his current position at the club,
the best thing for the club would be to remove Leam from his current position.

So why are the board acting so slowly? Games are running out.

If we go into the Barnet and Wimbledon games in the bottom 2 and desperate for the wins, the pressure on the players will be huge.

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Liam HAS to go. Hes not a manager. Obviously id love Coleman back! But im not actually that bothered about John coming back! i just want another manager whos ACTUALLY a manager and has managerial skills! Sammy Mac would be one for example! Get someone in as a last resort now to shake up the team and to try and get results.

Colemans dream was to get into the football league, if he did come back then he'd do everything and anything not to go down!

How about John as Manager and Liam as Assistant. Id love that.

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Whatever you think of Leam's tenure - if you want him out then you have to answer this question first. We put league football before finance once before and look what happened...

...I am yet to see anyone calling for Leam's head construct an answer to this question and without it the argument is futile.

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your assuming too much, you don't even know if Coleman wants to come back. its a bit futile sacking Liam and Coleman saying no thank you, very few managers or players go back over old ground

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Your assuming Leam would not do the right thing and resign for the greater good of the club?
Your assuming he would leave the club , why would he not move back into a coaching role?
He will never be a threat to an experienced manager like Coleman.

Also what is cheaper, leam or relegation?
That question only considers the financial argument.

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and herein lies the answer to our current conundrum. We can't afford to throw money (paying up a managers contract, getting big money strikers in etc) at hoping we stay up.

We'd lose money by going down for sure, but we'd also be able to cut our cloth accordingly in a league where we wouldn't be the financial whipping boys.

Club before status every time for me and I'm sorry Davo but you are insanely boring keeping papping on about changing the manager. If we're going down then we'll go down with dignity and our honours intact and we'll start again with Leam still driving the boat.

I love to bore the arse of people with stats and I'm positive that Leam is statistically the worst manager we've had, but I wouldn't dishonour a current and popular manager by putting up the stats. If he does a Cook and runs off with his tail between his legs then I'd shame him with the numbers. But he hasn't done and he's man enough to stand there and let fans like you take a pop at him. So just accept the fact that he isn't getting the bullet, won't be getting the bullet so its utterly pointless polishing your pistol anymore.

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Another loyalty / honour / dignity (delete where applicable) reply.

Accrington Stanley will rerurn to being no more to the footballing world than a club in a famous milk advert.
All the hardwork to get into the football league will be undone if the board follows the illogical mindset of some fans who are happy with 2nd best.

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Excuse me asking but how old are you, from what you've wrote on this forum I'm guessing your not in your twenties yet;)

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hang on, lets just agree with Davo for a minute then.

Leam has been sacked and received a pay off off somewhere between £50-100k. So has some of the staff that are only here because of him.
We'll bring in a new manager and a new team on probably more money than Leam

We still might not get results, we might still get relegated, we might then sack the new manager and his new team and the whole debacle has cost us tens of thousands of pounds that we can ill afford. We're still in the Conference, with even less money and reputation all the worse for it.

Get a grip fella, its tedious.

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Here's an idea if Coleman or bell really love this club. Come back for free initially with a bonus if they keep Stanley up and an offer of employment if they want it in league 2 next year. I am sure they wudnt if we suffered relegation. Keep leam on he wud have some1 to shadow and pick the brains of for the next 3 months and if the worst happens Coleman and bell can walk away with heads held high knowing they had done everything they cud to preserve there previous good work. We cud then revert to leam for the start of the conference

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Sorry rude - dog . We should not expect anyone to work for free . Would you . If it a volunteer thats different. We all have the club at heart but come on. Paul Cook walked away after a short spell , he now called the snake . Leam as stood by his team through thick and thin , and now some fans are after his head . Just what do the fans want, there is no pleaseing .In a perfect world we would win every single game . We do not have the finances , so lets be realistic,Leam is doing his best, leave the lad alone. Some of the referrees we have had have been very bias with Stanley , it not always the team and management.

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One of the great things about football is that it divides opinion and one of the great things about the people who post on this forum is that, whatever their opinion, we all have the good of Accrington Stanley at heart and care about what happens to our club.

The point made about finances if Leam was paid off is a good one and if this is a route the board wish to take, there are options in how this could be structured as opposed to a one off significant cash.

Given the recent run of results, I'd expect the board to be active right now in reviewing the manage's position, and in doing so, there are many factors to be taken into consideration - the cost of any payoffs versus the likelihood the new incumbent would improve results versus the reduction in income that relegation would bring versus the vision the board have for the club etc.

I don't particularly want John and Jimmy back at the club and I do think that the job is beyond Leam's capability at this stage in his career. I'd like the board to show real leadership and as a hierarchy be active and be seen to be active in directing us out of our current predicament and staying in the football league. This won't happen if we continue our current policy of sitting and hoping it will be alright.

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Its the referee's fault now?
Get real.

How do we know it will cost 50 - 100k?
Shouldnt the board have to face the cost themselves for making the disastrous decision to make Leam manager?
How can you expect coley and jimmy to work for free?
the ball is in Leams court if our board dont have the courage to act.
If he is humble enough to reflect and accept this is not the right job for him, then he should walk.
If he still thinks he is the man for the job, he needs to get points on the board startind on Saturday.
I would suggest his bigger immediate problem may be the dressing room who no longer rate him.

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We are not in the bottom two ( yet!),so we have to hold our nerve and match or better the points return of the teams around us.There is a bit of experience in the team now,which will be key.
Don't forget those around us will be feeling the same pressure,calling for there managers head etc ...
Our season starts on Saturday,and the team needs everyone behind them

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ive been watching the situation from afar and im undecided but how many saturdays do we need they are running out fast. 4 points off the bottom.i hope im wrong but i think stanley will go down then john and jimmy will be back next season.

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No.
Our season started in August and fell apart in November.
Change the manager and we have a far better chance of staying up.

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Agreed with everything Dav007 has said.

No doubt Leam is a top bloke, but the results speak for themselves.

Unfortunately he is simply not up to it.

If he goes now, we may have a chance of staying up. I for one am NOT looking forward to the likes of Ebbsfleet and Braintree away.

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Its not about being anti Leam, its about being pro Stanley.

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In a word........... CORRECT !

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Who would you replace Liam with does anybody want the job with such a small budget according to our board when the snake left there were plenty of quality applicants who where these and are they still looking for a job.

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We only have to finish third from bottom,and the league tells me there are two worse teams than us at the moment.In relegation battles defence is key,and nick the odd goal,I believe we can pull thro.

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I think you need to take those red tinted specs off football19 and wise up to the situation.

We are bottom of the form table, and have been for a long time.

How long do u honestly think we wont be in the bottom 2 ?!?!!?

Not long is the answer.

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I presume you have watched home and away games recently?,are you saying we have not at least matched the opposition?,
What's a new manager going to bring to the table,new tactics/players?,its easy calling for the managers head,but that won't score you goals,hard work and bit of luck is required.
I love John and Jimmy,but did they save rochdale with 17 games to go,once they got there own lads in,did it get any better?
You maybe spot on and a change may work,but at what cost(financially),

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Wimbledon & Aldershot both have winnable home games on Tuesday night, so we could be rock bottom come 10pm Tuesday.

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With our current form, and Ive seen nothing recently to give me enough hope that it's going to improve any time soon, we're going to be in the bottom two sooner rather than later and the pressure will really be on then as we'll be playing catch up. I'm afraid it's going to take this for some supporters and the board to realise just what a desperate situation we're in.

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Its a proven fact when clubs employ a new manager results pick up.
They cant get any worse!

Can we expect a statement from the club tommorrow if Leam is going to stay or go?
Will we he get a vote of confidence or will it be a press conference to announce a new manager?

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To DAV007 and smudgie, neither of you have answered the real question, i.e. where does the pot of gold come from to pay off Leam? Stop posting negative comments and support the club, team and management. Sooner or later someone on here will ask moderators to stop allowing stupid nonsensical threads like this. And please, answer the damn question first!

Just like when we employed Paul Cook. Things were great after that.

Cook pushed his own agenda, made us 'more professional' but took out our grit; our fight.

I believe the reason we are not cemented to the bottom of the league already is Leam's attempts to plug the gaps with experience and more quality. He gambled on Beattie (and given the prospect, who wouldn't?!). Leam isn't perfect and as a young manager makes mistakes, but I can't see how a change in manager at this stage would help us at all. Not on the pitch or off it.

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I have done by questioning your assumptions.
Please answer them instead of playing the mod.

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I disagree that cook took away our fight.

And what your really saying is, whats the point in changing the manager as we are going down regardless?

Defeatist.

Please stop the negativity.

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[QUOTE=DAV007;1042587]
Can we expect a statement from the club tommorrow if Leam is going to stay or go?
Will we he get a vote of confidence or will it be a press conference to announce a new manager?[/QUOTE] I'm sorry Dav007 you seemed to have gone from one extrem to another!! And working your self up in to a wild Frenzy, carm down. As you may know you can pm anyone of 3/4 forum members who have direct contact with in the club. ie Peter Shaw Valarian both directors and our very own mod Mark Turner who works at the club and has invited anyone down for a chat anytime.

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Big john jimmy bk to moz to help out leam. I think plus k long on away bk i wish

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No, it isn't. I'll decide what I'm saying. Your tactic of shouting people down with cries of "you lot are blind to the truth and accepting defeat!" doesn't work on me. It merely shows your lack of ability to structure argument and back up your opinions. The record's been broken for a while now.

I believe we have adequate management, some people don't. Big deal. That's football. But negativity spreading campaigns for ousting staff are not our style. Leave that to them squares down at Ewood.

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Can everyone please calm down. I think I may have sorted it. I have just tweeted Kenny dalglish and offered him the managers job.

He hasn't replied yet, but I expect he is probably having his tea or something.

Will let you know as soon as I hear anything.

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There is a difference between
a) Finding money IMMEDIATELY to pay off one manager / recruit another, and
b) Adjusting / preparing for a year with less cash coming in.

Saying 'what will conference football cost us' and equating this to the cost of sacking and recruiting does not tell us where this money will come from.

And in any case there are four possible outcomes. Leam stays we stay up, leam stays we go down, leam goes we stay up, leam goes we go down. Only one of those outcomes would cost more to the club than the other three.....a bit of a gamble?...

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What's your address 1 cloud cuckoo land:rolleyes:

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So Stanley suffer another defeat (to another team pushing for promotion) and the get Leam out campaign begins again (boring) leave the lad alone he is doing his best and DAV007 I can tell you that the lads in the dressing room are 110% behind him, JC & JB are not the answer we have moved on live with it.
Stanleys problem is we aint got anybody who can put the ball in the back of the net on a regular basis or a Gornall or Mullen to be a target man and hold the ball up.
Deano needs to be given the armband as I don,t think Joycey is up to it yet.
At the end of the day and we have been in this position at least 4 times since coming back into the league if we go down we will survive we will have some cracking non-league days out and get on with the job in hand, anyway it aint over till the fat lady sings and what will be will be.

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People seem to think if we change the manager everything will be fine --- why did rochdale go down then?.There are many reasons why were struggling,but its on the pitch it's not happening,I struggle to think of anything more Leam could have done,so what do we do?,return to training on a rugby pitch.
If you think a new manager will get another 10% from the team,you very much mistaken,they are giving there all.
People calling for change,still haven't stated what more leam could have done,come on lads please let us know and share your football wisdom

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lets hope we stay up .i hope results improve,what should happen any winnable games at home should be treated like a cup final,and the midfield should be beefed up. ive only been watching highlights but i remember the same things happening 5 years ago.the defence chasing back towards the wings leaving the middle exposed .when most teams struggle its the midfield that isnt balanced.if you let a centre mid have space he has 3 choices the wings or forward.i would personally play 3-5-2 just to have a better chance of scoring and tighten the midfield.

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Wrong! Henning Berg's record at Blackburn was far worse than even that of Steve Kean. However, I see that Preston got a win yesterday after sacking the manager and without any new appointment! It's a lottery and I have been sitting "on the fence" regarding the situation with Leam, and can see both sides of the argument. However, I now can't see any alternative to keeping him on at this stage and believe he should be given full backing. I just wish he would end his love affair with his mate and show more imagination in his team selections. His understandable desire to try to keep a solid defence seems to result in there never being any possibility of getting a sufficient number of players in the opponents' box in open play and even on set pieces our delivery leaves a lot to be desired.

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Leam has addressed some of the areas where the team needed boosting - he's brought in an experienced centre back, a recognised right back and the left hand side in an attempt to stop leaking goals.

I don't know much he has tried to bring in a creative midfielder, but we are lacking someone who can consistently make chances and from the limited amount I've seen of Linganzi, he's not the answer. Beattie is not the most mobile, but then again he never has been, and given the right service, I think he can be more effective for us - I think back to his early games and he has the quality to take chances. Podge works hard, but his conversion rate is simply not good enough - he needs almost 8 chances for every goal and we need to be scoring goals. I'd try Boco up front with Beattie. Leak has not addressed a key problem which is creating chances and scoring.

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The thing is Redraine, if your going to play an ultra defensive system, you need players that can break quickly and get a goal, it appears Stanley haven't got these players, Beattie is far too slow these days, mind you I don't know what roll he's being used in, out and out striker or hanging back behind a striking partner. the only problem concentrating solely on defense is its okay, but like on Friday they conceded two late goals which seems to keep happening

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Maybe there was a lot of hard work, but also at a heavy cost ( you could even say at the taxpayers expense )

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It was mentioned on the Burnley forums. He may have been one of Stanleys worst managers but he was a class act at the Turf. Stanley might not want him back as manager but oh how they could do with his wizardry on the pitch :)

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For what it's worth.i am a 4-3-3 fan,with a holding player,two centrally advanced players,two wide up and downers and a focal point centre forward.Playing this way was the signal of our decent run to the play offs,previously, we had two holding midfielders I a 4-2-3-1,and although we didn't conceed many,we just couldn't turn draws into wins away from home.
Playing this way,we force teams to go around us,and with the experience in wide areas,it may suit us.
Saying that,a few teams are now reverting to a 4-4-2 system,but in reality it's more of a 4-1-3-2.
Personal i think we are missing are Bavs and Linney,how many points were down to the keeper at the start of the season,and linneys work up and down the line can't be understated

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Dav007 , you seem to have all the answers , so why don't you come along to Stanley on Sat and give Leam all the correct solutions .It seems a shame to keep the answers to yourself. Leam is very approachable and I feel sure he will appreciate your input . Problem solved. A guaranteed win !

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For what its worth the time to have got rid of Leam would have been in January.

We've made our bet now we've just got to see where the ball drops.

Hughes and Hunt might just tighten up our defence enough to scrape some clean sheets - its just the lack of goals that concerns me - Boco is our top scorer get him in the middle in place of Beattie where he can be some use.

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How many examples do you want of that being an absolute crock......

Alan Knill took over at Scunthorpe when they were struggling in the championship....promptly went down that season.

Alan Shearer took over at Newcastle a few years back....anyone remember how that season ended up???:confused:

Our old "friend" Westley went to North End....I notice that one worked out well !!!;)

Dean Saunders has taken over at Wolves this season from the Norwegian bloke (remember the guy who took over from Terry Clarke....who took over from Mick McCarthy). Ten games and counting and they're still searching for a first win!!! And sliding closer to the Championship trapdoor.:rolleyes:

Kevin Blackwell took over at Bury earlier this season. I know they haven't won more than two or three since he took over.Firmly entrenched at the wrong end of League One.:rolleyes:

The list goes on and on .......and those are just a handful of examples on how well thought out that comment was about " a proven fact ":rolleyes:

Just a thought, but do any of these folk calling for Leams removal, have another part time past-time....Like walking around town centres with one of them A-boards with words to the effect of "The End is Nigh"??

For crying out loud, get behind the side and post something positive. I'm sure if any of the lads in the squad read some of the drivel that's been posted on here recently, I'm sure they're absolutely brimming with the confidence that these statements & "proven facts" bestow.....NOT.:(

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Liam Richardson has managed one win in the last sixteen games yet some would want to ban calls for his dismissal!:( Do those folk know of some master plan to see us relegated this season, but under his leadership see us win the conference next season?:rolleyes: If we go down we'll join a queue of former league clubs much bigger than ourselves who've spent hundreds of thousands and many years trying to regain their league status, and status is what it's all about!
Kid yourselves that we'll have some great non league days out if you must, but we will fade into obscurity as far as the football world, and the media are concerned. No twenty seconds mentions on The Football League Show, no mentions on Granada Reports or North West Tonight, and the thought of Radio Lancashire swooning over those non entity seaside dumps Morecambe and Fleetwood, while our world famous club hardly gets a mention fills me with horror!
The writing is on the wall! Better managers have been sacked for far less than a one win in sixteen return!:(

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

There are just as many examples of changing the manager has a positive affect.

The results are terrible, Leam has had more than enough time, change the manager

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!
I suggest you speak to the players, they have made up their own minds.

And can you stop burying your head in the sand? No matter how much you support Leam, your not going to change the fact he is the wrong man for the job.

I will deal in facts that the club is heading for football disaster by dropping out of the league, you can concentrate on this bizarre notion of blind loyalty and support, the same mentality the clubs senior management have shown by letting us sleepwalk into a relegation battle and if things dont change, the non league.

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Why is it that so many of those calling for the dismissal of the manager cannot even spell his name?
Oh dear. This sounds truly catastrophic.:rolleyes:

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Your right.
Going back to the non league is the best outcome for the fans, club and town.

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I must apologise, there was me thinking you were just blindly blithering on about Leam not being up to the job - I didn't realise you had spoken to every single player & got their take on it :rolleyes:
Hang on a minute though - slight flaw in that theory seeing as how Deano's dad has publicly said on here that the lads are 100% behind Leam? :confused:
I for one know who I believe!

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Are you really that naive to think they would say anything else publicly?

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best outcome for the fans is to still have a club to support

best outcome for the club, depends what your take is. Do you want the club to simply have as many fans as it can? do you want the club to have a higher financial turnover? or are you happy to have a lcub to support no matter what the level? Its also highly probably the club could turn a profit in non-league which in turn can be pumped into some of the things that many of us think we should have been doing before we got to the league (and thus might have had more fans)

best outcome for the town? well what has FL status given the town so far? and in return what has the town given back?


You're missing the point. We'd all rather have FL status than not, but wittering on like old ladies on here isn't going to change whether or not the club could afford to change the manager if it so desired. So all you're doing is undermining and destabilising the unilateral support that the majority would rather show to Leam and co, whatever they think of his still being in charge.

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Blimey, you talk some sense at times Rob :D

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i've had me medication this morning :rolleyes:

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No, and neither I am naive enough to think that you have personally spoken to each player & been given their opinions 'off the record'

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I could not agree more about your comnent regarding the town, the club has raised the towns profile no end.
And it would appear the town has done nothing in return to help the club and to maximise the opportunityhaving a football league club gives the town.

Most people have never heard of hydburn and couldnt tell you where Accrington is on a map. But you ask the average Joe to name something Accrington is famous for, I bet Stanley would be named in 9/10 responses.

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I've found myself on the edge of negativity questioning the players fight and belief and Leams ability to reinstate that 'belief' into the team. Weve never had a world beating team, and we cant expect that but what we do have is the will to fight for what worked so hard to achieve...FOOTBALL LEAGUE STATUS.

Without doubt we are in a relegation battle now but for christ sake lets think positive.

Lets concentrate on Accrington Stanley getting the points and what goes hand in hand with that is FAITH, BELIEF... BLOODY GRIT not just from those 11lads on the pitch, but the thousand or so Stanley fans in the stands. If you wanna boo OUR team off or sing for the managers head dont bother turning up. We need togetherness not division (Your opinions are valid in terms of stats)

THE HARDER THE CONFLICT THE MORE GLORIOUS THE TRIUMPH

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Because I haven't.

Sorry for having an opinion on what is best for the club.

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

The fact of the matter is people (dave007) have every right to question a managers ability when we sit just 1point above relegation and have the one of, if not the worse form in the league.

However, I really cant see how calling for his head will help in this situation. OUR club needs support, it needs us all to pull togethe. We then have to put our trust in Leam and the players to fight for OUR survival.

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

As they did long before the club got back in the football league. Accrington Stanley isn't famous for getting back in the league.

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Suppose the other thing Accrington is famous for is Tiffany glass and the Market Hall being voted the best in Britain. Oh and by the way it is Hyndburn and how many people call it that, that is the title of the Borough not the district of Accrington. Hyndburn is an all encompassing title for the townships of Accrington, Church and Oswaldtwistle, Huncoat, Clayton-le-Moors, Great Harwood, Baxenden, Altham etc etc

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

ozzy,
Accrington is famous for its football club, nothing else.

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And still will be whatever happens. I've been away from Accy now for 35 years living in various places but the first thing that people have always said when I've told them where I come from has been Accrington Stanley. Its a nationwide brand! I don't want to see us go down but as long as there's a club to support I'll be happy rather than going back to the dark days of the 1960's. For what it's worth, I know I complained they were too negative at Plymouth but until the injuries Lindfield was skinning their left back and we should have had three points. Relegation isn't a foregone conclusion so get behind the manager and the team.

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Accrington is also famous for the Accrington Pals. I am not going of thread but Dav007 needs to know some history.

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

As some one once said Exactly

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

If ever I saw an ostrich;)

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:eek:

Would ' an ostrich' in this instance happen to be a euphemism for 'a gadgy', which was your previously stated if ill-chosen definition of this fellow Forum user ?.
I happen to disagree with most of his opinions, which like everyone else he has a right to air, and which are I feel at times stated to wind the more conservative- minded amongst us well and truly up !... but would hopefully draw the line at using criticisms which are merely name-calling and suggestive of a flaw in another's character and behaviour... ( a simple and easy tack to take when someone has nothing more informative to say !) .
It could well be that he (or she ?) is an extremely sensitive person to whom the careless jibe could be emotionally injurious... and, worse still, might entrench his anti-Leam opinions to a degree which would cause the most mild-mannered amongst us to join in his vilification !!... Revived Red !.....I haven't strayed from the cause..honest !.
:rolleyes::cool:

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

I just get fed up when the record's stuck

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

;)

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Dav007 you seem to be pretty well in the know as to the relationship between Leam and the team would you like enlighten us on the source of your information !!!!!!!!!!!!!! also in your obviously expert opinion what is the answer to the reds lack of form oh hang on JC & JB one word matey RUBBISH !!!!!!!!!!!

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I have to agree with ASfc62. We must get behind the team and the manager. We all know that we have not been able to develop a strong enough squad this season but I am absolutely 100% sure that all the players as well as the mangemant are doing their utmost to try and get the points that we need in order to survive this season! It has been discussed on other posts that we don't have the money or the "clout" or the appeal to attract good players to come to Accrington. This season has been a transition after Coley and Jimmy left last year and then the short tenure of Cooky. Leam is a young manager and he is trying his best to get the team playing with confidence. As supporters we need to look at it simply..... The role of supporter is like that in a marriage..."For better for worse, for richer for poorer" etc. Now times are rough but we shouldn't be arguing amongst ourseleves ... it is a recipe for more problems. As ASfc62 says, just get behind the team and shout and sing for them.... (sounding like a broken record from me these days!) Next Saturday is a great chance for us to show our true loyalty and support at home to Cheltenham. Let's all give it our best shot .....MANAGER, TEAM and SUPPORTERS:mosher: showIng 100% solidarity in a great effort to get three points.
Come on you REDS!!!

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ps. I am happy to be an Ostrich and bury my head in the sand!!! Just so long as my beloved Stanley stay up!!

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What really annoys me is four months ago,leam was left with a young team which had far too many inexperienced loanees in it.He was on a hiding to nothing until the January window,and even then his hands were tied as we are not awash with money.
The lads we have brought in are much better than cookys loanees.
I know a few players he tried to get and I am sure they would have made a massive difference,unfortunately he couldn't get them,and to say he's not upto it is laughable,he knows our strengths and weaknesses,and only Beattie ( in my opinion) has yet to really deliver.
Not having the players even caught up with the great Brian Clough -eventually !!

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If your opinion is correct (if), then isnt Leam also to blame as he was fully aware of the squad Cook was building.
It was not as if he has come into the club after Cook had departed.

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Personally, I'd prefer it to stay that way. Just the once is enough, as long as we stay there! :rolleyes:

Re: Leam Richardson - the worst manager in Stanley's history?
 

Davo,are you sure Leam had any imput in cookys signings?Cooky probably did one when he realised how hard it was to entice quality players whilst paying peanuts.
This is backed up with at least five loan signings playing during his last couple of games,and even these were not top quality!

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You definitely need a history lesson. Oh and visit the most famous collection of glass just up Manchester Road near the junction of Granville Road. Howarth Art Gallery has been famous for having a collection of Tiffany glass for more years than I can remember. Then of course, the revamped Market Hall was voted as the best Victorian market hall only last year (I maybe slightly out on that one, but someone will put me right). And how can I forget the Accrington Pals! Accrington Stanley FC is famous as one of the first (if not the first) to go bust during a season in 1963, the milk advert and getting promotion back to the Football League. Please don't insult persons who have lived in the town for years and some who have left the town. I like some on here went on the terraces at Peel Park, did you? Lest we forget those dark days. Yes the supporters have had ups and downs, that is the nature of football. If we get relegated, then so be it, if we stay up then great. But please, stop slagging off the manager and support him and the team. P.S. I am not an ostrich, just a realist.

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Im in London in the morning, I will ask 20 staff what comes to mind when they think of Accrington.

I will post the results.

It wasnt intended to be a jibe at the town of Accrington, I was making the point that the football team is the most famous thing to come out of Accrington and the council has not returned the favour.

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Accrington NORI 'ardest bricks in the world used all over the world. Empire State Building NYC and The Eiffel Tower Paris foundations to name two.:D