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To be fair RR,Davo was convinced that changing the manager was our only hope,although I didn't agree,a lot of teams go down this avenue.What I strongly disagreed with was that the players weren't 100% behind Leam ,believe me they were,even when we weren't getting results.
Successful teams get partnerships all over the pitch,and with his contacts he slowly built them.
Moving Dean to Cb and bringing in Aldred(both schooled at blackburn),Linganzi partnering Joycy(great combination),wilsons experience allowed Moly to attack more,Hunt and Murph allowed Bocco to get forward,and Jeffers and Beatties experience fired up Hatfield and Podge.
I think last 12 games we had 7 clean sheets,good foundations were being built by Leam and this paid off.
Just hope we can keep one or two for next season,KTF

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Disagree, in my view davo had a huge bias to [email protected]. I can understand why wi all they achieved at Stanley, But this was very unfair to Leam, Hope now the blinkers are off?

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Like DAV, I too thought keeping Leam at the helm was utter madness and I'm so happy to have been proved wrong.

But if assembling a group of players in January, capable of keeping us up, was difficult, I fear the task he faces in keeping hold of the best of them after yesterday's achievement will be monumental.

Several players who were in the last chance saloon in January will now be hot properties. I only hope the club can find the wherewithal to give Leam a fighting chance.

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I was also on the same wavelength as DavOO7 regarding the manager.No doubt he like me will have been more than happy to have been proved wrong!:p I'm sure he'd rather be taking the flack now about Liam Richardson as opposed to being in a position of "I told you saw" following relegation to the conference. We all had strong opinions about who should have been steering the good ship Stanley away from relegation waters, sometimes saying things in the heat of the moment, but we all had the interest of the club at heart and if we'd all sang from the same hymm sheet perhaps the manager would've become complacent, but with criticism of his position and tactics perhaps he took them on board and decided to do things a little differently?;)

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for the record, from winning at Fleetwood in November to the win at Rochdale 3 months later, we went 17 games with 1 win and 6 draws and 10 defeats. That run was enough to put the willies up any stanley supporter (so to speak)
Even Leam's biggest fans must have wondered whether we had made a big mistake and it's probably to Leam's benefit that we can't afford to sack the manager. Plenty of other clubs would have pulled the trigger (e.g an outfit 6 miles to the west of accrington).
So for me, although we hit such a bad run I had to keep backing leam because we had no real alternative. Forget JC and JB - that was never a viable option. We just can not afford to sack a manager and bring back people who left for more money at rochdale
To say the players were behind Leam is being a bit wise after the event; some of those performances through the winter months were so appalling that i shall never be able to think of Dagenham and Redbridge without a shudder.

I guess we will never know the truth of that midwinter slump and I am happy to let bygones be bygones and look forwards.

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Not so. It was not "heat of the moment" at all. Look back at those posts. DAV007 used every possible opportunity to announce the fact that Leam (note spelling, by the way - sadly you still cannot get it correct) was not up to the job.

Are you honestly suggesting that criticism from individuals on this forum caused the management team to change ideas?:(

Yes, football19, I agree that DAV007 was very wrong in saying that the players were not behind Leam. But he was also wrong in his excessive criticism of the board.

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That is common-sense yeh grasped yon,;) Pity the muppets were still in vogue, some just couldn't see the facts.:D:D:D

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"Are you honestly suggesting that criticism from individuals on this forum caused the management team to change ideas?"


I'm not saying that the management team said "Oh look,Dav007 thinks that we should do it this way, let's try it then"!, but perhaps criticism in general made them look at things differently.

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Perhaps as well me muppet comment is accurate:rolleyes::hehetable

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How true, yeh can't put sense were there is none though.;)

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Well where i stand in the ground there was considerable criticism of Liam Richardson's tactics. Having said that for the last few years of his reign JC came in for similar criticism from the same fans. Football fans will always have an opinion of how their club should be run, sometimes those opinions are laughable, sometimes they are genuine and maybe should be taken on board.
I for one kept my opinions to myself as i know for a fact that i am not a football manager and would be clueless as how to pick a team, but that doesn't mean that i can't have an opinion on someone else's ability to pick a successful team.
Maybe a bit of verbal infighting as to who was right and who was wrong about the management is inappropriate at this time when we should be celebrating avoiding the drop to a level of football that we'd almost certainly have no chance of returning from!:alc:;)

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That behaviour was inappropriate at a far more important time,:rolleyes: But yeh can't seem to grasp that?

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Can peace break out now, please??

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It aint a war mate,we all support same club, just different points of view.:D

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I think that Dav007, as all on this forum hopefully do, genuinely believed his views were in the best interest of the club. I maintain that one win in 18 games entitles people to ask questions. Let us remember the Voltaire principle.

The fact remains that without the lucky discovery of Molyneux and his subsequent wonder goals....who Leam refused to play for a long time despite all and sundry being able to see how talented the lad was....we would have been relegated a month ago.

Being blinkered works two ways.

Delighted we've stayed up and delighted for Leam. Hopefully this lucky escape can galvanise us for next season and if we can keep Moly and Armine and get rid of Rachubka we can upset the apple cart again next season.

Fully expect the illiterate "u is a muppet" responses from certain quarters. It's boring....we've stayed up. Move On and look forward to Pompey next season/ :D

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Slagging players who by all accounts had a good game yesterday, n certainly did so at York, is also boring n justifies the Muppet Alvin.:rolleyes:

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i heard a little whisper that leam put all dav007 comments on the changing room wall .

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Not slagging at all. Just think we could grab somebody better. Certainly if Bavs returns to his earlier season form and a certain Mr Belford becomes available seeing as Bury have been relegated. :)

One thing is certain. It's never a dull day on the Stanley rollercoaster. :)

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The problem was that DAV007 repeated his views ad nauseam. Not simply content with starting threads that some may consider offensive ("Leam Richardson - the worst in Stanley's history?"), he peddled his views in other threads.

Can I suggest that the "lucky discovery" of Hughes and Aldred may also have had a bearing on it, along with the equally "lucky" blending of a team?

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If we all sang from the same song sheet we would be just a load of nodding dogs with nothing to discuss, on the changing the manager which to me was never an option, but like everyone else DAV007 is entitled to an opinion and others are entitled to disagree with him and at the end of the day we all got what we hoped for survival in the league,

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I also liked Mr Belford very much, but in fairness Chucks to me has settled in well of late. N as fer the lucky discovery of Moly, I suggest good judgement also musta come into play wi that un?

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Anyways, someone give him his 'umble pie (with a choice of condiments, red or brown sauce) and a big glass of humility juice to wash it all down with so it don't stick in his throat. Then lets get on with looking forward to the future as the happy bunch of irrepressible Stanley optimists we know we are. :)

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I may even have agreed wi that,if i knew what the hell a peroration was.:confused::D

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Same as what he said, with knobs on! :D

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Yonmon,now things have panned out ok ,do you think I can resume my normal seating arrangements on Saturday?,I started to get paranoid :)

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Yeh don't know that owd reprobate wi the gammy leg do yeh?:D;)

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He's had it sorted now,was on about makin a comeback!!,to be fair he looks in good nick :)

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First of all thank god that,s over WELL DONE BOY,S. I at the time was very much in dis-agreement with DAV007 and was even accused of making threats when I asked him for a face to face conversation on the clayton end, this of course was not the intention and I apologize if that,s how it was interpreted.
I said at the time of the snakes introduction as manager that it was a mistake an we should have stuck with Leam to the end of the season (and who knows where we might have been now) some of the comments that were being thrown about at the time will have filtered to the dressing room because there are members of the squad who from time to time make a occasional visit to this board (so I have been told) and to quantify the rumour,s regarding Leam losing the changing room absolute rubbish the squad where 110% behind him so much so I would say it was a better place to be than in the latter days of JC & JB.

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Absolutely magnificent achievement by Leam, considering the paucity of resources at his disposal.

On a day when Stockport County (average home gate: 3,481) slipped into the Blue Square North, it's worth considering just how far above our weight we are punching...long may it continue!

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And that is a FACT.;)

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I got my own thread.

Special mention to the OP for serving up the humble pie, it tastes even better that we are in league 2 next season.

To clarify for the final time, I did not say the players where not behind Leam per se. On the contrary, I said a player or two I spoke to would have not had a problem with Coley and Jimmy coming back and liked playing under them.

There are lots of examples of this in football, im sure john terry and frank lampard would like to play under Mourinho again.

If I said something different then please point it out.

The real credit has to go to the board who after a dreadful run of results, decided to back Leam when others may have decided to change the manager.

I and some others called for Coleman & Bell to return while they are out of work; there is no proof either way to say they wouldnt have kept us up or sent us down.

However, the winless run we went on deserved questioning and IMO a change in manager.


Going forward, the challenges and experience Leam has had from this season will put him in a good position to move Stanley forward and hopefully get a mid table or higher position in the 2013/14 season.

But lets not forget, staying up is a huge achievement for Stanley and if we manage to stay up next season on the current gates and level of investment; then Leam will have over-achieved again.

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I used to watch worms wriggling on the end of a fishing pole when I was young, takes my mind back:rolleyes:

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its not negative, I am being realistic.
We are sleep walking into relegation under the excuse of 'loyalty' to a manager who is not delivering.
Leam has bee a good servant to the club, but the FACTS show his reign as manager to be a disaster.

This is not about being anti Leam, no Stanley fan could be anti Leam, he is a nice bloke who has worked hard for the club.
But we are in a race to the bottom, and the only thing we are able to change to see an improvement is the manager.

Coleman and Bell would keep us up, but the longer we leave it, the games are ticking away, the points are not being collected and our rivals are making gains.

You may not like the FACTS, but they speak alot louder than any words on a forum.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Theres the proof, yeh said Coleman n Jimmy "Would" keep us up, now yer weaseling n saying theres no proof either way, I wouldn't like someone like you behind me in the trenches Davo.:rolleyes:

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Ya Cashy you'll be able to work out who Davo007 is at the last home game, he'll be the one limping because he's shot himself in the foot.;)

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And I believe they would have.
But factually, you couldnt prove they would have as much as you couldnt prove they wouldnt have.

Your grasping at straws

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no but they didn't need to like you wanted and it looks like you've got the straws between your teeth;)

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Oh i aint grasping at straws,davo nor do i weasel out of stuff when i'm wrong,:rolleyes: This new "LIKE" button is a wonderful new thing, everyone can look back n see who agreed wi yeh, n also notice they have had the good sense,to keep there heads below the parapet.:D Still yeh can say whatever yeh wish, cos its so easy fer folks to look back n make there own minds up.

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Couldnt agree more.

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I know I said "over and out" but I cannot let you get away with your attempts to change history. For the record, this is what you wrote on 17 February:
I would suggest his bigger immediate problem may be the dressing room who no longer rate him.
And then two days later:
I suggest you speak to the players, they have made up their own minds.



Is this the same board that you accused of lacking courage?

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Theres only one person lacking courage in all this.:rolleyes:

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1. I later clarified and said a few players.
As your so good at searching the forum, can you pull that up for me or would it cause a problem?
Any employee would question their boss if the resullts/performances where constantly failing. Because one of the players has told you differently
(would you expect them to say anything else to a fan?) I must be wrong.
I know what I heard, I dont need to say any more on it, I reported a fact.


2. Yes, its the same board.
Happy to be wrong.


Facts?

4 pages, wow your bitter.

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Maybe he is, but he aint telling lies.:rolleyes:

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neither am i.

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Did i say yeh were? still if the cap fits.

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I have to admire your ability to see the world as you wish it to be, DAV007; the way you simply refuse to accept that you were wrong, I can only assume that you are or should be a politician.
Many of the things you state as fact were, in fact, merely your opinion or the opinion of one or two disgruntled players in the squad. Neither are facts; the latter is merely hearsay.
But I'm happy to leave the one FACT from Saturday's great performance and result as judgement that your opinion on Leam Richardson was simply wrong.
Thank heavens, for that.

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You've just told one with that statement:rolleyes:

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Davo, why don't you quit wriggling and squirming in a vain attempt to justify yourself and accept with good grace that you were wrong? After all, the fatwa that was in force on you on the Clayton End has now been officially lifted! ;)

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Ya but do all the Jihadists realise that Wyn:rolleyes::D

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Happy to admit I was wrong, already have done

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only when you ran out of wriggle room

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For God's sake, leave him alone!

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Stanley weren't doing well, DAVO and many others panicked and called for Leam's head. The club stuck with Leam.
The club were proved right, DAVO and some others apologised.

Stanley are safe, that's enough for me, let things lie.

FACT

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More than happy to let things lie, slong as Davo gives our manager a fair shake.;) Which is what he n others Didn't.!!

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Cashy,read a few of Davos football posts and he does know his stuff,think he just dropped a bit of a clanger in persevering with being negative regarding Leam!,I am convinced he had Accis survival at heart so it's carry on Davo for me !!!

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I do read all the posts n also make me own mind up.;)

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Think we should have a Dav007 amnesty.

Dav, just like we all are on this forum, is entitled to his point of view and has said he was wrong re Leam's ability to keep us in the football league. We're officially safe, so why can't we all put our energy into looking forward.

Think some of stuff said bordered on being personal - let's leave the 'falling out amongst ourselves' to Blackburn Rovers fans whilst we all focus on supporting our club.

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Blackburn Rovers fans are more United than any other club in their one aim to get rid of Venky's

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For the last time, Leam has proved me wrong, the board have proved me wrong, lots of forum users have proven me wrong, yes - i got it badly wrong.

But I still feel justified to ask the questions and come to the conclusion that a change of manager was required based on the terrible run of results.
And it hasnt made me any less of a JC and JB fan.

Somebody on here kept on saying that it wasnt Leams team and he needed time to mould the players to his system and ideas, he needed time to bring in a few of his own faces.
That person got it spot on.

And I got it wrong, im sorry, i apologise, im a naughty boy, anything else?

As for the Venkys, name me another owner in the championship who gave their manager as much to spend in the summer as Steve Kean and took on some of the biggest wages in the division?
They where doing ok with steve kean, starting to get some consistency although they where fortunate to pick up some of the results they got at the start of the season. They shouldnt have let him go. Why did Kean leave?

If they get relegated, wont that make the Venkeys less likely to sell the club as the clubs value will be reduced and they will suffer a bigger loss?

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Davo were all probably J.C. @ J.B. fans, be amazed if anyone wasn't, after all they achieved.

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Re: For DAV007 I got my own thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS now lets see if we can blow the Sean Mac thread out of the water !!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

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Can't see that happening ,13 goals and 8 assists from midfield will always fuel the fire :)

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Slong as Mcs on the fire is all that counts.:D Notice i aint mentioning Davo.

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yes you have:D

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Credit to you Dav, you were wrong & accept it graciously.
We all, after all, wanted the same outcome... League status!

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The real credit has to go to you, for finally spelling his name correctly!!

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Close the thread now while DAVO, and Stanley, are winning.;)

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lets put an end to all this guff i forgive you for your coments,dav007

(stanley coverts a bit of a pussycat really)

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Dav, now you are being controversial!! There is a mob heading up the Accrington Road with pitchforks and burning torches:eek:

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But its true.
They got relegated because they sold to many of there better players and didnt re-invest to the same quality.
They had a spending spree in the summer, managed to fluke a few results at the start of the season but began to show promise.
Kean then left under bizarre circumstances and its been down hill since.

Do Blackburn fans consider Accy their 2nd team?

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Wow, even your own thread Dav. :D

Even I havent had one of those :D

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Some do,as do some dingles n other clubs, The real problem is not enough local people consider Accy their First team.;)

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Um something else you know sweet FA about and I don't mean Fanny Adams either.;)

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For over 40 years of my life Stanley didn't have a first team, but they're my second now:D

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enlighten us with your knowledge and understanding oh great jaysay

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Sorry I don't waste my time with people like you, who have very little grey matter to take it in:rolleyes:

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Interesting characteristic of people who throw mud

Wont answer or cant answer?

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Depends on who's asking, I would waste my time on people like you

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'Ignorance never settled a question'

Benjamin Disraeli

:)

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You should know:hehetable

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Will we get an answer?
Why break the habit of a lifetime.

Shame

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That's been your problem most of your adult life, sorry it hasn't started yet:hehetable

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jaysay, the man to scared to share his opinion

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The opinion you asked for, if you care to look back was about Blackburn Rovers, this is a Stanley Web Site, if I remember rightly, even if you've forgot , I doubt if real Stanley fans (which you virtually proved you weren't, thus this thread) would appreciate me pontificating on matters at Ewood Park, like I wouldn't like a Stanley fan pontificating about Stanley on a Rovers WebSite. Is that enough for you DAV

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Happy to attack every one, but to scared to share his own opinion.

(Shakes Head).
:whack:

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Come on a Rovers website and you'll find out just what being attacked really is, I'm a pussy cat on here believe me, by the way I've been shaking my head at you ever since you joined the site, I tend to do that to numpties http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smile...mileys-312.gif

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C'mon girls, give us a break ......

Apologies to real ladies reading this!

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Ding dong who asked you to chime in:D:D:D:D

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With Chimer on this, let's just celebrate all the good things Stanley - sorry Jay - and leave it here... :) :) :)

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Both skilled??? Have yeh been drinking? Ones a Scouse n the others a Tory n yeh say both skilled.!!!!:hehetable

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Please lock or delete the thread.
Jaysay doesnt want to give his opinion, just attack everyone elses.
makes you wonder why he uses a forum?

Seriously, close the thread. Its boring.

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Sir I will do.

However when I shut down several threads when you were attcking Leam and others; you were less than impressed!!:confused: