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yonmon 30-04-2013 06:36

Leam going ?????...
 
Awakened from my slumbers by Graham Liver informing me via the Radio Lancs Network that there is a distinct possibility that Leam Richardson is about to join that there chap who slithered off to Chesterfield to feather his viper's nest amongst The Spireites !...
Can this News source be believed...if so the sedentary nature which the Forum seems to have adopted since the Oxford game is about to be disrupted one feels !

yonmon 30-04-2013 06:55

Is leam really leaving.....???????
 
There it goes again on Local Radio !!...'Is Leam Richardson about to leave Accrington Stanley to join Paul Cook at Chesterfield ??'...
As opposed to my last brief thread which by it's title suggests that Leam should be given a medal for leaving !..now that I'm awake I keep morphing into Victor Meldrew
....'I cannot believe it '....but is there smoke without fire ??.

Tom D 30-04-2013 06:57

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WHAT? Why would he (apart from a financial incentive obviously)?

It on the lancashire telegraph website now too.

Is there any more basis to this apart from the fact that cooky has got rid of some other staff?

MikeA 30-04-2013 06:59

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I saw this thread and thought he'd won a medal... :)

lancsdave 30-04-2013 07:33

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Leam would have known about this over the weekend if he had contact with Cook. Having heard his speeches over the weekend and those of his players and staff ( especially James Beattie ) who couldn't speak highly enough of his qualities, Leam's managerial potential and ambitions will not be interupted by dropping down to Assistant Manager. Given what's happened at Chesterfield the rumours were always going to be there.

cashman 30-04-2013 07:53

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All i can think is Leam seems to me too intelligent,as well as a decent chap, n aint daft enough to contemplate such a thing.Hes now started on the Number1 path n doing a decent job at that, Build a steady ship here n is bound to be offered a bigger/better job in time were he will be his own master, not a number 2, thats my 2 pennorth. Crap like this is bound to happen, Snake has got rid of some backroom staff,so needs to replace.:rolleyes:

FrankMoody 30-04-2013 08:11

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If he does go where will the club turn?
Stephenson?
JB & JC?

..and if Cookie is the snake will leam be the worm?

Redraine 30-04-2013 08:21

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Will be confirmed today?

Leam Richardson - Bob's Board - Chesterfield FC

cashman 30-04-2013 08:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1056398)

I have read that daily virtually since snake went, Theres all sorts of crap posted on yon, just same as any football supporters board, Pinch of Salt, until things happen.

smobile 30-04-2013 08:33

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I hope it’s not true, but Paul Walker (on twitter) is claiming it is a done deal – he was the one who broke the story about the snake going, when everyone else was denying it.

If he does go, then good luck to him. Totally different circumstances to the snake. He left us mid-season without a Plan B. At least Leam would have hung around to get the job done, before jumping ship.

Keep The Faith

FrankMoody 30-04-2013 08:43

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If he does go where will the club turn?
Stephenson?
JB & JC?

..and if Cookie is the snake will leam be the worm?

DAV007 30-04-2013 08:47

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The return of the king, KING COLEY!

Although i cant help feel Leam owes the club with the board sticking by him this season. He has also had a huge ammount of learning and demonstrated real ability, Ipart of me doesnt want him to leave despite wanting Coley back

AsFc62 30-04-2013 09:05

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its all a load of b*llocks.

cashman 30-04-2013 09:23

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I reckon so Ash, can understand why snake went, but this would be a backward step fer Leam, don't make sense to me.

DAV007 30-04-2013 09:30

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Maybe cook is selling it to Leam on the basis they will bé going for the title next year?

I hope our board dont do anything daft and give Leam improved terms, wisdom required by all.

yolobcfc 30-04-2013 09:56

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100% he's off to Chesterfield today Beattie next manager

yolobcfc 30-04-2013 09:56

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hes going 100% beattie next manager

cashman 30-04-2013 09:59

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Very good of yeh to tell us, Are you one of those smug gets who looks down on a small club?:rolleyes:

yerself 30-04-2013 09:59

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If this rumour proves to be true I hope the board doesn't do anything daft, like appointing two unemployed scousers.

johnc 30-04-2013 10:01

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Looks likes its true, sad really

lancsdave 30-04-2013 10:01

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Confirmed by Radio Lancs

cashman 30-04-2013 10:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnc (Post 1056417)
Looks likes its true, sad really

Why does it?:confused: Yeh would think the club site would say summat before Radio Lancs?

johnc 30-04-2013 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1056419)
Why does it?:confused: Yeh would think the club site would say summat before Radio Lancs?

You would think, but they are not well known for keeping everybody informed with up to the minute news

lancsdave 30-04-2013 10:27

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I would think the club statement will be a lot more than a line on twitter. Normally they would ask the press to hold the information until a certain time. Press aren't good at telling the time on occasions

AccyMad 30-04-2013 10:29

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Really hope this is just the media stirring things up based on some of Cook's back room staff leaving, IF there is any truth in it & it's a big IF in my opinion, then in realistic terms how could Chesterfield afford to pay us 2 years compensation given their recent well documented money problems??
Don't do it Leam, it's not as if Cook is well known for being loyal to his back room staff, he soon dropped the ones at Sligo when it was a stumbling block to him getting the Stanley job & i've no doubt he would do the same again if he moved on from Chesterfield

AsFc62 30-04-2013 10:37

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I just cant get my head around it. From the way Leam was talking and the way Beattie described Leam is GOING to make it as MANAGER! forget the cash, surely managing a football club benefits your credentials more than being an assistant manager.

Whilst it seems silly,the decision lies with Leam and we have to respect it. It is his career

smobile 30-04-2013 10:41

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He's Gone - Confirmed.

Maybe it was the plan all along. Cooky inherited a team at Chesterfield, but wanted Leam. Club asked Leam to stay on til the end of the season to keep Stanley up, then join the snake and pass the baton onto King James.

Why the two and half year contract in November though ??????????

Feel a bit short changed though.

Div3North 30-04-2013 10:51

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If I'd had to spend weeks reading mindless posts about "sack the manager" and "bring back Coley", and someone offer to double my salary (or whatever) I'd probably have walked too ...........

Damn shame, but if you feel unwanted it's another factor in the decision .......

johnc 30-04-2013 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1056428)
If I'd had to spend weeks reading mindless posts about "sack the manager" and "bring back Coley", and someone offer to double my salary (or whatever) I'd probably have walked too ...........

If you let what people post on an internet forum bother you as a football manager you wont last long in the game

More likely he has gone for the money, if so, then that's up to him, you cannot judge anybody even cook for leaving for more money, everybody would do the same

maccawozzagod 30-04-2013 10:59

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Leam you're a numpty pal. Second fiddle to a man with three voices and two faces just as your career was starting to bear some fruit. Fair do's to you though you're an intelligent fella who wouldn't have done it on a whim and also thank you very much for getting this over and done with as early as possible after the end of the season. Good luck Leam, you will need it. It's no secret that Chesterfield HAVE to get promoted next season and if you two can't get your new team to gel immediately then the pair of you will be sacked by October. How will that look on your short CV? avoided relegation by three points in the first job then sacked after ten games in your second.


To the board, please appoint someone within a fortnight so they can have time to crack on with getting a side together. Please put clauses into their contract that we can sack them if they are **** and not have to pay compo.

Greeny 30-04-2013 10:59

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I just come away from the stadium half an hour ago, I did ask Leam if he was heading for Chesterfield , his reply was " we'll see ". If he does at least he kept us in League 2 before moving. Good luck to him anyway , but I do wish he would stay at Stanley.

jenglish 30-04-2013 11:00

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Peter Marsden asked him recently if he wanted to stay on and fight relegation and he chose to stay. Why leave now when you have the chance to push on?!

smobile 30-04-2013 11:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 1056431)
I just come away from the stadium half an hour ago, I did ask Leam if he was heading for Chesterfield , his reply was " we'll see ". If he does at least he kept us in League 2 before moving. Good luck to him anyway , but I do wish he would stay at Stanley.

Greeny, he has gone. Molyneux is on Twitter and has just tweeted that ."the manager has officially gone and good luck to him. "

Greeny 30-04-2013 11:09

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It been on Radio Lancs that he goes today, glad I had the chance to wish him well for the furure.

AccyMad 30-04-2013 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnc (Post 1056429)
If you let what people post on an internet forum bother you as a football manager you wont last long in the game

More likely he has gone for the money, if so, then that's up to him, you cannot judge anybody even cook for leaving for more money, everybody would do the same

No-one's saying that would have decided him, just that it was maybe one factor & even though you need to be thick skinned to succeed as a manager, there were some pretty nasty comments made on here by certain individuals which wouldn't have helped in his decision - gutted :(

maccawozzagod 30-04-2013 11:27

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Jeffers just tweeted the same as well.

oh well onwards and upwards.

So, had he already had contract talks with players and told people whether they were going?
Had he already offered contracts to those he wanted to keep?
How will players who might have stayed be affected?

If there has always been a plan to reinstate Coley then I hope they do it straight away and don't fanny about.

johnc 30-04-2013 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1056436)
Jeffers just tweeted the same as well.

oh well onwards and upwards.

So, had he already had contract talks with players and told people whether they were going?
Had he already offered contracts to those he wanted to keep?
How will players who might have stayed be affected?

If there has always been a plan to reinstate Coley then I hope they do it straight away and don't fanny about.

At least if Coley does come back he wont be as quick to leave as the last two this time around, we need a bit of stability now, and the players need to know asap who will be running the show.

AccyMad 30-04-2013 11:44

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Absolutely gutted! :(
Think it's the wrong decision for Leam but only time will tell, he has a young family to think of & I wish him luck & hope he doesn't come to regret it.

Fourth official 30-04-2013 11:59

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Typical Football - No Loyalty.Here's me thinking the club stood by him, when he was out injured as a player and when people were questioning him as manager.A 2 yr contract left or take a chance with Chesterfield !! we all know how it ended for Coleman & Bell.

smobile 30-04-2013 11:59

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On fishy now :(

ASFC News Story > 5386

accybeme 30-04-2013 12:01

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Money money money but I really can’t blame Leam for wanting a better life for him and his young family, managing Stanley is a tough and unrewarding job with a very small but loyal fan base, good luck Leam

cashman 30-04-2013 12:30

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Think hes been a complete numpty, becoming a number 2 fer money,:rolleyes: Am very disappointed thought he had more oil in his lamp.:eek: Can only wish him well, Am sure he could have gone on to bigger n better things as a Number 1, I can understand anyone leaving fer better money, "BUT" only after viewing the Big picture. Better Dosh -Yeh, Better Option- No.

cashman 30-04-2013 12:37

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I suspect this has been long planned? Also suspect it won't just be Leam going to the snake?:(

Revived Red 30-04-2013 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1056444)
Think hes been a complete numpty, becoming a number 2 fer money,:rolleyes:

Maybe it's not only for money. Maybe he just did not like being No. 1 - at least not yet.

cashman 30-04-2013 12:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1056447)
Maybe it's not only for money. Maybe he just did not like being No. 1 - at least not yet.

Doubt that very much, going off what people have told me he said in his speeches oer the weekend,:confused:

Outback Ozzy 30-04-2013 12:46

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club should give him and the snake an ultimatum. HANDS OFF OUR PLAYERS. Anyway the ones who may be being on the radar of other clubs are more than likely being League One clubs or higher.

smobile 30-04-2013 13:08

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I said a few things in a speech once, that weren't exactly true. (Mind you the wife was stood next to me in a rather nice white dress)

caretaker 30-04-2013 13:15

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You could not make it up. I have heard that Ian Rush is having a go as manager for us next season. Anyway, whoever gets the job will need a lot of encouragment and support for the new season.

caretaker 30-04-2013 13:20

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I was only joking about Ian Rush

widnes viking 30-04-2013 13:25

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Shame he has a long association with the club

Dazzagee 30-04-2013 13:31

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Gutted...

Good Luck to the lad!

Thanks for sticking around and giving the club a hand to avoid relegation!

All the best Leam!

Redraine 30-04-2013 13:31

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Bob Dylan had it right - "Money doesn't talk, it swears".
Good luck and thanks anyway, Leam.

Wynonie Harris 30-04-2013 13:59

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Very disappointed in him. The club were loyal to him when the results were poor - where's the reciprocal loyalty? I also think he's made a move for short-term gain that will prove very unwise in the long run. Just hope the club have screwed every penny of compo we're due.

accybeme 30-04-2013 14:02

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Leam gone, I’m expecting an exodus of players will follow, it’s a very worrying time for supporters, hope the club keep the fans up to date with players that are moving and staying

cashman 30-04-2013 14:02

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Seems to me the club were loyal also to leam during his injuries before he became gaffer.

Doug 30-04-2013 14:18

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He pulled off a stunner over the last couple of months and kept us in the fight, for that I'll thank him and wish him well in his new role as an assistant.

Revived Red 30-04-2013 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1056462)
Leam gone, I’m expecting an exodus of players will follow

That does seem likely but their departure will not necessarily be a good move for them. It is often difficult especially when moving from a club where they have been for several years and have thus gained a certain status. The rapport with the fans and the club becomes almost intuitive. Rommy himself is a good example as his stay at Burton Albion showed. JC and JB are further examples. I too wish Leam well but I hope that he is aware that fans elsewhere will not be as tolerant of weakness or failure.

madkev 30-04-2013 14:44

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Cheers for the memories now here's to the future

smudgie 30-04-2013 15:41

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Actually thought it was a wind up when I first heard the news.
Cannot believe it has actually happened to be honest.

I dont blame him going if the money is that superior, but as others have said loyalty is officially DEAD in Lower League football. :(

Where do we go from here??? One things for sure, NOBODY is bigger than the club. ASFC will NEVER DIE!

Bernard Dawson 30-04-2013 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1056462)
Leam gone, I’m expecting an exodus of players will follow, it’s a very worrying time for supporters, hope the club keep the fans up to date with players that are moving and staying

It would have been a lot more worrying had we been relegated.

Chimer 30-04-2013 16:04

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A few random thoughts ....

To start with, disappointed after Leam did a great job stopping the slide.

Secondly, surprised that someone would move from No 1 to No 2 - unless he doesn't really like the pressure.

And from a club that has proved it doesn't (or maybe can't afford to) do kneejerk sackings to one that does (and can) ......

If it's for money, that means we're offering our No 1 (significantly?) less than Chesterfield offer their No 2 - ouch.

Maybe Leam did actually show loyalty by not moving when Cook did - there were plenty of people saying he would go then, but he didn't. But then again, maybe there was always a plan.

Finally, I do fear we can colour Romy gone - though I really hope not.

Whatever, On Stanley On!!

DAV007 30-04-2013 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1056428)
If I'd had to spend weeks reading mindless posts about "sack the manager" and "bring back Coley", and someone offer to double my salary (or whatever) I'd probably have walked too ...........

Damn shame, but if you feel unwanted it's another factor in the decision .......

Its clearly the fault of the fans who questioned are worst ever run in the league.

Who is the snake now!

He who laughs last laughs longest!

cashman 30-04-2013 16:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1056502)

Who is the snake now!
!

Obviously YOU:D

DAV007 30-04-2013 16:21

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Yeah

yonmon 30-04-2013 16:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1056383)
I saw this thread and thought he'd won a medal... :)

OK Mike !!...A seven-o-clock in the morning shadow was clouding my thinking at the time !!....but Touche anyway !!.

winstanley asfc 30-04-2013 17:15

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Paul Cook is indeed a nasty piece of work as we already knew,but he might have done Stanley a favour. Leam Richardson was probably not shown the door when we went ages without a win because we couldn't afford to pay him off. Well now we don't have to, infact we can wave him goodbye with a nice cheque on the way.
I'd like Coley and Jimmy back but if they prove to costly how about giving James Beattie a chance providing that he wants it?

smudgie 30-04-2013 17:20

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Agreed, get Beatts involved :)

cashman 30-04-2013 17:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1056519)
Agreed, get Beatts involved :)

Nah Davo wouldn't like that.:D;)

johnc 30-04-2013 17:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1056519)
Agreed, get Beatts involved :)

All for giving a young manager a chance, but does he not still live on the south coast?? I seem to remember talk of his weekly 6 hour drive.

carpon 30-04-2013 17:54

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Unbelievable ....to quote Cammy on Sky...

First I knew about this was when I went to get the "Bellylaugh" (L.E.T.) from the local newsagents when had my first break at work this morning. Quickly going straight to the back page to read the sports news to be greeted with what I thought was "lazy" journalism.....

"Richardson's Reds future in doubt" screamed the sub headline...


How wrong I was proved.:mad:

After watching his post match interview on the fishy last night, I really thought Leam was in it for the long haul. Apparently not.:(

I couldn't blame anyone for wanting to further their career. I can't really blame anyone who wants to provide a bit more financial security for his young ( & soon to be expanding ) family.

What I can't get head around is the fact that he's given up the relative security of the job he had here as No1, to the insecurity of being sidekick to somebody who's already got his doubters at Chesterfield. If they don't hit the ground running next season, I foresee "the snake" and his new sidekick getting p45's before Christmas.

Thanks for keeping us up Leam. Though I think you've made a big mistake joining the "slithering one" in the shadow of the crooked spire.:o

cashman 30-04-2013 18:16

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Very funny comment on Chesterfield Forum = "Cook has put more people on the dole than Thatcher":rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: Hope yeh know what yer doing Leam.:eek:

Kiwi John 30-04-2013 18:21

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Last night I was extolling my 'love' of Stanley and 'passion' for Leam and the clubs future...This morning, I think Leam is a Ian Hunter - Bastard (Studio) - YouTube

cashman 30-04-2013 18:23

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I wonder how many Leam face masks are left from sat?:D Its obvious to all but the totally numb,talks had gone on before then.

lancsdave 30-04-2013 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1056389)
Leam would have known about this over the weekend if he had contact with Cook. Having heard his speeches over the weekend and those of his players and staff ( especially James Beattie ) who couldn't speak highly enough of his qualities, Leam's managerial potential and ambitions will not be interupted by dropping down to Assistant Manager. Given what's happened at Chesterfield the rumours were always going to be there.

Oh well, that's me in the totally clueless knows jack group :)

smobile 30-04-2013 18:44

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Quite funny comments on Chesterfield Forum....

Even Cashy gets name-checked. Post 19 :eek:

Leam Richardson - Bob's Board - Chesterfield FC

cashman 30-04-2013 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smobile (Post 1056555)
Quite funny comments on Chesterfield Forum....

Even Cashy gets name-checked. Post 19 :eek:

Leam Richardson - Bob's Board - Chesterfield FC

Thats cos i can annoy any beggar.:D;) But it also shows they read the Stanley Forum. lol

shakermaker 30-04-2013 20:45

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Can't say I understand the reasons for Leam's departure at all. Riding on the coat tails of another's ambition, forgoing the kudos and gravitas earned as a manager in his own right? I think he's made a bad decision (back room staff even more expendable than managers in Football League) but I don't wish him any ill.

All the best, Leam.

View From The Cow Shed: Leam Richardson leaves Accrington Stanley

choirboy 30-04-2013 20:50

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Went out for a long 60 mile bike ride today.:Banane44: After having my shower and a brew at about 3pm I put the telly on to have a look at the football news on teletext and was absolutely SHOCKED and GUTTED to read the news about Leam leaving us!!!!:bangh8:
Like others, I think it could very easily turn out all wrong for the lad. Chesterfield have big club ambitions and as others have already said, Leam and Cooky could find themselves out of a job half way through the season!!!:s_cry:
Looking back on both or their managerial tenures at Stanley, I honestly think that Leam did a far better job than Cooky. Cooky decimated the squad and brought in quite a number of fairly lame loan players, then left us pretty much in the lurch!! Leam took over and alhtough it took a while for him to build a new team, with his own choices, he actually produced a settled and pretty succesful team for the last 10 or 12 matches and of course they retained our Football League status.:mosher:
Therefore, I rate Leam more highly than Cooky as a No 1 manager and cannot understand why Leam has gone to work for Cooky as his No 2.
Obviously a big factor, as usual, is money and of course nobody can blame Leam for looking for the security offered by a higher salary.
I believe that if Leam had stayed with us for another full season that he could have done far better than No2 (for a while) at Chesterfield.
It is a sad fact of football life that loyalty is being bought out by money these days in our beloved game.:dummy2: The fans, apart from Dav007 and one or two other numpties, have shown true loyalty to Leam and supported him fully as he rebuilt the squad.
Well, sincerely I would like to say thankyou and wish you good luck Leam, but I really think you could have written a full chapter in the history of our famous club instead of just a few lines.
The most important part of our club though are the fans who turn out week in week out in all weathers and those who consider themselves TRUE REDS will be here on the terraces and in their seats on day one next season.
Our role here at Stanley seems to be to constantly overcome adversity and of course we will continue to do so.
There will be much debate about John and Jimmy possibly returning, or giving another youngster like James Beatty a chance and there will be others after the job too. As Rob Heyes says on his video comment we should not rush in too quickly but we do need to have a manager in place within a week or two to talk to the players who are out of contract as soon as they have had a break.
I think that Romy Boco will definitely go to Chesterfield but I hope that we can keep the other lads.
I think that our players should remember the old saying about; "The grass is greener on the other side of the hill". My view is that it just isn't always true and you should think very, very carefully before leaving us for other "green" pastures. Why not stay and be part of the history of a famous club like ACCRINGTON STANLEY.
ON STANLEY ON!:theband:

Tom D 30-04-2013 21:07

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Thought I might have dreamt this when I read it this morning.....

This is a real shame. Thought their has been some real optimism around the club in the last few weeks, and all the reports by people on this forum who have talked to players from the club showed a good atmosphere had been established.

We had been 'spoilt' by John and Jimmy really - 12 seasons with the same management is a luxury in football - 3 changes in management in under a year feels like massive upheaval in comparison.

The good news is football has a massive excess of decent managers, coaches and players. It's just about having the right combination of personnel, and a little bit of luck. And of course a committed fan base, whatever the size.

I'm still optimistic.

DAV007 30-04-2013 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1056591)
And of course a committed fan base, whatever the size.

I'm still optimistic.

Dont ask redraine and stanleymad, they only support the team if they approve of the manager.

And they call themselves fans!

Shameful.

lancsdave 30-04-2013 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1056603)
Dont ask redraine and stanleymad, they only support the team if they approve of the manager.

And they call themselves fans!

Shameful.

Do you seriously think they wouldn't go ? Let's face it a lot of what is said on here is bull****, you should know more than most :rolleyes:

DAV007 30-04-2013 21:32

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not my words, it was their own words.

And while I get most things wrong about football, not supporting the team because of whom the manager is, I find to be a terribly selfish position.

cashman 30-04-2013 21:42

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I think calling fer someone to get dismissed, n hoping to get yer mates back is just as selfish.:rolleyes:

lancsdave 30-04-2013 21:44

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1056610)
not my words, it was their own words.

And while I get most things wrong about football, not supporting the team because of whom the manager is, I find to be a terribly selfish position.

Fortunately I know both of them, and selfishness when it comes to their football team is not a description that fits.

At least all these discussions help everyone to get over the worst part of the year, the cricket season :D

Alvin the chipmunk 30-04-2013 21:57

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 1056616)
Fortunately I know both of them, and selfishness when it comes to their football team is not a description that fits.

At least all these discussions help everyone to get over the worst part of the year, the cricket season :D

No surrender to the Enfield scum!!! ;)

Jeg Red 30-04-2013 22:02

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Extremely surprised by this news, but then we've all been football fans long enough to know that nothing should ever shock you.

There's obviously a bond between Leam and Paul Cook and he's obviously weighed up that his career ambitions are better served by moving to Chesterfield - they are a bigger club, better facilities, bigger budget, nearer home, a more realistic chance of progressing up the leagues than us, etc. Money is also bound to be a factor.

Despite what he may have said in public, he may just not fancy the focal point and pressure that comes with being a league manager just yet, and I do think the last 6 months' experience will serve him well. He may simply have not fancied the challenge of managing Stanley (and it certainly is that!), knowing that he's probably got to find 5 or 6 first teamers over the Summer and he would have an idea of the playing budget for next season.

He has proved he's got a good eye for a player and I wouldn't bet against at least 2 from Boco, Molyneux and Linganzi being a Chesterfield next season.

I've read the posts about the risks involved, but maybe, just maybe, Chesterfield may have got themselves a great management team.

cashman 30-04-2013 22:26

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Originally Posted by Jeg Red (Post 1056623)
Extremely surprised by this news, but then we've all been football fans long enough to know that nothing should ever shock you.

There's obviously a bond between Leam and Paul Cook and he's obviously weighed up that his career ambitions are better served by moving to Chesterfield - they are a bigger club, better facilities, bigger budget, nearer home, a more realistic chance of progressing up the leagues than us, etc. Money is also bound to be a factor.

Despite what he may have said in public, he may just not fancy the focal point and pressure that comes with being a league manager just yet, and I do think the last 6 months' experience will serve him well. He may simply have not fancied the challenge of managing Stanley (and it certainly is that!), knowing that he's probably got to find 5 or 6 first teamers over the Summer and he would have an idea of the playing budget for next season.

He has proved he's got a good eye for a player and I wouldn't bet against at least 2 from Boco, Molyneux and Linganzi being a Chesterfield next season.

I've read the posts about the risks involved, but maybe, just maybe, Chesterfield may have got themselves a great management team.

I suspect they may become a very good team, But no promotion will be regarded as failure oer yon i reckon n its a big ask in Div2 many sides on same level,:eek:

Redraine 30-04-2013 22:27

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1056603)
Dont ask redraine and stanleymad, they only support the team if they approve of the manager.

And they call themselves fans!

Shameful.

Owd on a tick! I said the second coming would test my commitment, which is not the same as saying I wouldn't continue to support the team or the manager. I would swallow my reservations, just as you did after calling Leam the worst manager in Stanley's history. Do you understand, or is the point too subtle for you?

DAV007 30-04-2013 22:32

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There is no point in back tracking.

Get behind the team irrespective of whom the manager is.

cashman 30-04-2013 22:34

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Owd on, this is the sodding cricket season!!! How come were on the pigging roller coaster once again?:D:D:D:D:D

Jeg Red 30-04-2013 22:35

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1056638)
I suspect they may become a very good team, But no promotion will be regarded as failure oer yon i reckon n its a big ask in Div2 many sides on same level,:eek:

Cashy, I think that the Chesterfield board will be looking at a playoff spot at the very least next season and that the team will have to be there or thereabouts in the league or else the fans will become very restless - they can't afford a poor start. Am just pointing out the alternative view, that they may have got themselves a great duo, as opposed to folk pointing out the risks

DaveinGermany 30-04-2013 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1056642)
Get behind the team irrespective of whom the manager is.

So speaketh the converted. :)

Redraine 30-04-2013 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1056642)
There is no point in back tracking.

Get behind the team irrespective of whom the manager is.

Back tracking? You still don't get it do you? I don't need lessons from you about backing the team.

lancsdave 30-04-2013 22:40

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1056643)
How come were on the pigging roller coaster once again?:D:D:D:D:D


A great marketing opportunity. Thousands if not millions of people worldwide pay a lot of money for those rides, they are missing out on the biggest and longest one in the world :D

DAV007 30-04-2013 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeg Red (Post 1056644)
Cashy, I think that the Chesterfield board will be looking at a playoff spot at the very least next season and that the team will have to be there or thereabouts in the league or else the fans will become very restless - they can't afford a poor start. Am just pointing out the alternative view, that they may have got themselves a great duo, as opposed to folk pointing out the risks

Jeg Red is correct.

With some justification they will be expecting the play offs at LEAST next season, if not automatic promotion.

The only clubs I expect to be challenging for the title are Portsmouth and Southend.

Bradford, Cheltenham, Mansfield and Oxford should be thereabouts in the play off spots.
One or two others may emerge, but I expect the league to be open again as I doubt Bury, Hartlepool, Scunny and wrexham/newport will be investing heavily.

Southend have invested (wrongly IMO) in Phil Brown and he has been promised money to get them up.
Pompey are starting afresh and already their new chairman is talking about providing funds to make them competitive.

No excuses next season if Cook and Leam dont get them in the top 7.

mab 30-04-2013 23:04

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Shocked and sadened when i heard the news earlier,cant under stand being a number 2 when your number 1 in your present job, but thats money for you to which you cant blame leam for going. UNlike some i've never had a bad word to say about Leam and can only wish him well in his new roll.. ps i told my 13 yr old son tonight that Leam had left the club and joined Chesterfield as number 2,his reply " why?? what a dick head" so time will tell who is proven right Leam or my son ;):) Good luck Leam and thank you for keeping stanley up:)

cashman 01-05-2013 07:10

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Funny thing Mab, its said Kids always tell the truth.:eek:;)

AccyMad 01-05-2013 07:28

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1056643)
Owd on, this is the sodding cricket season!!! How come were on the pigging roller coaster once again?:D:D:D:D:D

Comes with the territory Cashy, wouldn't be Stanley otherwise :rolleyes:

Stanleymad 01-05-2013 07:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1056603)
Dont ask redraine and stanleymad, they only support the team if they approve of the manager.

And they call themselves fans!

Shameful.

EXCUSE ME??????

Says the guy that set a campaign to get leam out! Forgot how much YOU love JC & JB so much I think there's a bromance brewed. You have threatened to go round mr whalleys house when that kicked off and I got abused for modding that. You are one hypocrite.

I don't support your views but I love Stanley not the management suck up, I've done a lot for the club over the years ... What have u done? (But complain either at the last manager and any supporters who don't agree with your views!):D

DAV007 01-05-2013 08:12

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Stanleymad,
You wrote it.

There was no 'campaign' to get Leam out, I asked is he up to the job after a diabolical run of form.
I remain a Coley fan and believe he would have kept Stanley up.
Leam improved results and I was proven wrong.
Campaign?


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