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DAV007 06-10-2013 22:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078508)
Once again Davo you have come to the table empty headed,I refer you to your post 94,"We as fans have always given every manager a FAIR CRACK Of THE WHIP" I assume yeh mean like YOU gave Leam?:rolleyes:

I think I did to be honest,
before the results improved their was an increasing number of fans who where questioning him and wanting a change.
I though his run of results where awful and I still do.
Infact, so would any normal fan but unlike some fans I thought the answer was to remove him.

I got it wrong on Leam, but as previously stated Leam had a bit of a cushion to work from, Beattie has left us adrift.

bdc 06-10-2013 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078501)
It is no use for us as fans to be falling out amongst ourselves, JB is manager at the minute and we should stick together and give the team our support. We have had a period of 2 years of instability

I don't agree, if anything going from Cook to Leam continued the stability.
And Beattie was at the club as a player/coach last year, so again their was some stability
Each manager has their own ideas and own tactics they want to implement when they are appointed. This usually means an overhaul of the playing squad each time a new manager is appointed, hence the instability it creates on and off the pitch. This also means it takes more time to see results on the pitch, doing this for the past 2 years hasn't helped. Under Paul Cook, we established a big playing squad and a number of these players were deemed not good enough for Leam who sent some of them out on loan, released some of them and then also added some of his own players. When Leam left JB signed a number of his own players and this meant another overhaul of the team. If we sack JB the same cycle will repeat and again will take time to manifest itself on the pitch.
and cannot afford to keep losing managers through them leaving or being sacked.
We haven't sacked a manager?
You have wanted the current and last manager sacked in the past 8 months
Coley and Cook left for better opportunities, Leam left to be a number 2
This just adds to an unstable working environment that doesn't help the players to become used to a manager and their tactics etc.
Good players adapt to whoever the manager is. The problem we have, some of our players are not very good.
We have a mixed bag of some decent players, some not so good and crocked players, Lets not forget the fact that losing all the time can have a massive detrimental effect on their confidence. This is a hard thing to get out of as shown last season.
The basic reality is that we have no money, we are making massive losses and the club can ill afford to pay off Beattie.
This is true (sadly).
We agree on something
So unless anyone wants to stump up the cash to pay him off,
I can add £20 to the fund if it will help
Send a cheque for about 50 grand and you may get your wish
we are stuck with him unless he walks away. We as fans have always given every manager a fair crack of the whip, so why are people calling for his head after 10 league games?
Because there has been little to nothing to suggest results will improve
It is ten games into the season, you were saying the same thing about Leam and he was given time to turn it around and that is what he did. There is nothing to suggest that it cant happen again.
It is far too early in the season to be sacking anybody and the squad is ravaged by injuries at the minute.
This is not true, and other Stanley manager's have had far worse injury list.
This is his team , his players.
He has signed players who have been injury crooks all their careers, so why the sudden surprise when they get injured?
No excuse
The only players who have been crocks are Hunt and Webber, when both fit they are very good players at this level. That is a risk that JB has taken and Webber hasn't worked out but Hunt is a very good player for us. Did Coley or Bell ever have to name themselves on the bench in the football league?
That means that JB has struggled to put a team out that would be his first choice.
Not true.
Every single player (except Murphy I think) where signed/re-signed in the summer.
Its his team, his signings.
It would be his team if he could get all the players he signed on the pitch and not being sat on a treatment table.
As a club we don't have any God given right to be guaranteed to stay in the division so if we do go down it would hardly be a shock.
But we must do everything we can to sustain it, especially when you consider the financial cost for going down
I'm sure everyone at the club is aware of it, especially Peter Marsden who is funding the club at a time when nobody else is willing to. Its not like the players are stood on the pitch every game trying to lose.
We have been punching above our weight in the league for 7 years but maybe our luck has run out.
No such thing as luck - your either good enough or your not good enough
Over a season I would agree but in certain matches you get some luck and in others you don't. Look at the York game away last season, we were played off the park for 90 mins and up pops Pete and we get a point that was the catalyst for staying up.
As supporters we just need to get behind the lads and support them when they are on the pitch.
Please point to one post which has said anything other than support the team?
But does that mean we are not allowed to debate the awful results and performances which have been served up on an independent forum?
I haven't said that the fans aren't backing the lads, just saying we need to do our bit when they are on the pitch.

See above

stanley convert 07-10-2013 07:01

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Well DAV007 ya have managed to stir up the nest again and I don,t understand what your agenda is !! back on post 48 I asked you where JC had said he was desperate to get back to Stanley your reply was post 56 "press quotes" so basically just some paper talk nothing actually from the mans mouth unless of course you know different ???? maybe you have access to the inner sanctum up at Stanley, you now seem to be turning your attention to Peter Marsden as well. I have no doubt that all your protestations are for the right reasons and you are right (and we have covered all this ground before) about JC and I don,t think any level headed Stanley fan would argue about what he did for the club but this is the way I see it
(1) both Peter Marsden and James Beatie have dipped their hands in their own pockets to keep this club out of the grasp of the tax man.
(2) If we where to get rid of James where is the money coming from to not only pay him off and also pay back and I quote the "10,s of thousands of pounds" we owe him for paying the tax bill???
(3) If JC is such an outstanding manager why has he not worked in football league management since being sacked by Rochdale ???
(4) If JC did come back I do believe he will still have the same player squad and apparently they aint up to it so how are things going to change ????
(5) So far this season we have at times played some reasonable football and to a certain extent have been unlucky and without a bit of luck in this game ya don,t get owt ......Fact.
(6) The lads are just as disappointed at the results as we the fans are and I that is FACT!!!
(7) FINALLY (because I,m getting bored) If yer man was to come back and Stanley still went down who would you blame then ..............maybe Buzzers grass is the wrong colour !!!!!!!!!! tongue in cheek statement there DAV ......LOL

jaysay 07-10-2013 07:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078348)
Didnt Coley leave the profession because Stanley was taking up more and more of his time?

Dont let facts get in the way of a personal vendetta jaysay.

personal vendetta I don't give a stuff really:rolleyes:

johnc 07-10-2013 07:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley convert (Post 1078530)
(2) If we where to get rid of James where is the money coming from to not only pay him off and also pay back and I quote the "10,s of thousands of pounds" we owe him for paying the tax bill???

Bet he regrets that now after how poor Naismith is

jaysay 07-10-2013 07:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 1078475)
Evidence?

Nice one:D

jaysay 07-10-2013 07:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078503)
Harrysmate
I refer you to my post number 89 on this thread,
Once again, you have come to the table empty handed.

you usually come to the table empty headed;)

jaysay 07-10-2013 07:55

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Having read this thread from post one, nobody has mentioned the fact that anybody who came in to manage Stanley at the moment, even if they're called Coleman, would struggle on gates of around 1900, you need money to improve a team in professional football no matter who you are Man United or Accrington Stanley, and Stanley are lacking in that department, unfortunately

Greeny 07-10-2013 10:20

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In DAV007's defence, he is merely stating his opinion, which for some reason he is not entitled too, unlike the rest of us!

Thought Dav007 could stand his own corner !! Yes he is entitled to his own opinion , but he is preaching and there is a difference. Like the rest of us I too am frustrated at our results .But Dav seems to "demand" proof of others opinions.

DAV007 07-10-2013 11:42

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Fair point Greeny.

Whoever is in the dugout on Saturday, lets hope we get to see a few goals & 3 points.

cashman 07-10-2013 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078550)
Fair point Greeny.

Whoever is in the dugout on Saturday, lets hope we get to see a few goals & 3 points.

Sadly i will be unable to see it, am away until 25th, will be back in time fer Morecambe @ hopefully our situation will have improved somewhat. Yer lucky davo, yeh been offered a lift wi a top geezer,;)although as yeh aint accepting pms it may be a bit difficult?

DAV007 07-10-2013 13:30

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Found a train option for 50 quid.
Now only need the wifes approval!

Outback Ozzy 07-10-2013 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 1078505)
Fed up of reading the same old crap from DAV007.........?

Then do what ive just done and add the dick head to your ignore list.........sorted!

Pete this is fine, but you get to read all the quotes by others on the forum, so you would have to ignore everyone on here to not see or ignore DAV007:D

cashman 07-10-2013 14:36

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To be honest i would never ignore a stanley fan, everyones entitled to be a knob, n everyones entitled to say so if they think it.:D

Chubbyman 07-10-2013 15:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078560)
Found a train option for 50 quid.
Now only need the wifes approval!

The man from Liverpool "Said Yes"

jaysay 07-10-2013 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078560)
Found a train option for 50 quid.
Now only need the wifes approval!

Take her with you, problem solved :D

DaveinGermany 07-10-2013 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078560)
Now only need the wifes approval!

Easily done, credit card & a ticket to L'Pool 1! :D

Greeny 07-10-2013 17:33

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Found a train option for 50 quid.

It another 45 mins from Euston square to Wimbledon , changing three times.

fc:stanley 07-10-2013 18:04

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Davo , what's your details of the train?

DAV007 07-10-2013 18:22

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It was on thetrainline website

38 quid return lpool to euston including tube to Vauxhall.
Another 14 quid across from Vauxhall to the station near the ground.
The only downside is, the train gets into euston for 13:56, which leaves very little time to get across London and get to the ground for 3.

Mr Matthew 07-10-2013 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnc (Post 1078533)
Bet he regrets that now after how poor Naismith is

I thought Naismith was great against Pompey, with his pedigree you need to give him a chance.

Confidence goes such a long way at this level.

Greeny 07-10-2013 18:32

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Preston 10.55am , Euston 1.00pm take a min or two.

Greeny 07-10-2013 18:32

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PS the above. I do not know the price.

st06nc2 07-10-2013 18:58

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If we lose to Morecambe then were f****d and beattie should then resign

cashman 07-10-2013 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1078621)
If we lose to Morecambe then were f****d and beattie should then resign

Even if we won the 3 games prior? jeez another genius.:rolleyes:

smobile 16-11-2013 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078159)
James Beattie is the manager of Accrington Stanley

League games alone -
10 played
0 wins
2 draws
8 defeats

Goals Scored - 6
Goals Conceded - 18

Total Points -2

After 10 league games, no one can deny the results are shocking/appalling/diabolical/unacceptable.


My biggest problem with James Beattie as our manager is simple, its his tactical knowledge and ability,
He doesn't have any.
He doesn't know how to change a game
His formations, team instructions, game plan, substitutions, player selection is all amateur.
He clearly is not cut out to be a football league manager.


The solution?
Easy.
We have a man in waiting who is available, who is proven, a good tactician, a man with ambition, a man who gets the best out of players at this level, he is use to working on a tight budget, is proven under pressure, and if the damage already done does take us down - has a track record to lead us back into the football league. And more importantly, is motivated to re-build his reputation after the Rochdale affair.

John Coleman - Save Our Season.
He would relish the chance to drag us up the table.

In Summary;
James, do the honourable thing and resign.

Finally,
learn from Barnet, don't leave it to late to make a change.
And never accept relegation as inevitable, we have a chance to make a change now and do something about it.
Now is the time.

League games alone - (Last 6)
6 played
3 wins
3 draws
0 defeats

Goals Scored - 8
Goals Conceded - 4

Total Points -12

After the last 6 league games, no one can deny the results are brilliant/wonderful/amazing/acceptable.

I think your post dave was the catalyst................:D

Outback Ozzy 17-11-2013 14:01

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Well I did wonder who would revive this thread, and I for one must eat a very large Wigan pie. It would appear that JB has got what he wants in the form of team work and as things stand, the only way is now not up but up or down. Yes I appreciate we are only 1 point off the bottom and only out of the drop zone on goal difference, but considering where we were when this thread was first started, what a turn around. I for one humbly apologise for criticising the manager and his team.

Chubbyman 17-11-2013 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1084300)
Well I did wonder who would revive this thread, and I for one must eat a very large Wigan pie. It would appear that JB has got what he wants in the form of team work and as things stand, the only way is now not up but up or down. Yes I appreciate we are only 1 point off the bottom and only out of the drop zone on goal difference, but considering where we were when this thread was first started, what a turn around. I for one humbly apologise for criticising the manager and his team.

A proper man.......will DAV007 post a similar apology.I'm looking forward to my curry DAV !!!

Chubbyman 17-11-2013 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smobile (Post 1084176)
League games alone - (Last 6)
6 played
3 wins
3 draws
0 defeats

Goals Scored - 8
Goals Conceded - 4

Total Points -12

After the last 6 league games, no one can deny the results are brilliant/wonderful/amazing/acceptable.

I think your post dave was the catalyst................:D

You can't criticise Mrs Coleman for trying to get her loved one reinstated !

Mr T 17-11-2013 14:36

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Does this thread wait for DAV007 to reply or should it be closed??

teabag 17-11-2013 14:52

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close it please, just pointless drivel now Mr T

maccawozzagod 17-11-2013 15:00

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I think people were perfectly entitled to voice their concerns over results - and we're still far from out of the woods. BT deserves to make a good fist of management and I hope he does, but if it's at the expense of Stanley going down then I am perfectly willing to stick my head above the parapet.

yonmon 17-11-2013 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1084300)
Well I did wonder who would revive this thread, and I for one must eat a very large Wigan pie. It would appear that JB has got what he wants in the form of team work and as things stand, the only way is now not up but up or down. Yes I appreciate we are only 1 point off the bottom and only out of the drop zone on goal difference, but considering where we were when this thread was first started, what a turn around. I for one humbly apologise for criticising the manager and his team.

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_as...85/sm-face.jpg

How to further confuse a decrepit old Stanley fan !!.

Now you can close the thread if you wish Mr.T. !

Chimer 17-11-2013 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1084314)

Me too, but I think he means it is now possible for things to get worse, whereas 8 games ago they could only get better.

I think the thread should stay open, unless/until the original poster recants :D

yonmon 17-11-2013 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1084325)
Me too, but I think he means it is now possible for things to get worse, whereas 8 games ago they could only get better.

I think the thread should stay open, unless/until the original poster recants :D


But, and this is where the story really starts. If things begun to get worse before they started to get better. then would they not have been worse than the situation they were in, where they were better than they were in the first place..... and will they actually continue to get better as they get worse ?... will the Bank Rate go up ?...is " As I pee sir I see Pisa " not the best short palindrome ever ?....is ???...

Time for Medication Alfred.E. !!.

Div3North 17-11-2013 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1084325)
I think the thread should stay open, unless/until the original poster recants :D

Seconded :D

jaysay 18-11-2013 08:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1084386)
Seconded :D

All in favour :D

DAV007 18-11-2013 09:38

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No need for anyone to apologise as nothing has been proven one way or the other.

People are forgetting, James Beattie is operating on our highest wage bill since returning to the league.
The club is getting itself in more debt to support Beattie.

We are 22nd in the league on equal points with the team in 23rd.

If we lose our next game and drop to the bottom of the league, will I be on here shouting the manager down?
No, because nothing much would have changed.

James Beattie has proven nothing yet and in all honesty none of the claims I and others have made have been proven.
Averageing less than a point a game is not success and nor should it be applauded.

After 10 league games Mr.Beattie was rightfully criticised. After 20 the situation will be rejudged.
One thing is for certain, we are in a far better place in the table than we where after 10 games.

The jury is still out.

Div3North 18-11-2013 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1084437)
If we lose our next game and drop to the bottom of the league, will I be on here shouting the manager down?
No, because nothing much would have changed.


Pinky promise? :p

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Revived Red 18-11-2013 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1084437)
People are forgetting, James Beattie is operating on our highest wage bill since returning to the league.

I don't think people are forgetting at all. People never knew.

Where precisely did you get this nugget from?:confused:

HiHoUpTheStanley 18-11-2013 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1084437)
No need for anyone to apologise as nothing has been proven one way or the other.

People are forgetting, James Beattie is operating on our highest wage bill since returning to the league.
The club is getting itself in more debt to support Beattie.

We are 22nd in the league on equal points with the team in 23rd.

If we lose our next game and drop to the bottom of the league, will I be on here shouting the manager down?
No, because nothing much would have changed.

James Beattie has proven nothing yet and in all honesty none of the claims I and others have made have been proven.
Averageing less than a point a game is not success and nor should it be applauded.

After 10 league games Mr.Beattie was rightfully criticised. After 20 the situation will be rejudged.
One thing is for certain, we are in a far better place in the table than we where after 10 games.

The jury is still out.

Well said Dav. JB has done fantastic in the last 7/8 games and no one can deny that but i think we are all forgetting its the 18th November and not the 3rd May. We have done fantastic just to get back into a fight of staying up now we have to keep improving, keep picking up points and hopefully and even Dav wouldnt mind this, that we will all be proved wrong about JB.
Also is it really needed to keep reminding Dav about this as its his own opinion and for me its still to be proven wrong.

Exile on Spencer St 18-11-2013 17:34

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No one needs to remind Davo about his opinions, he does that often enough himself.;)
But this web site would be less enjoyable without his inputs.

DAV007 18-11-2013 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1084447)
I don't think people are forgetting at all. People never knew.

Where precisely did you get this nugget from?:confused:

The accy observer.
Can one of the board members (valarain?) confirm or correct?

Exile on Spencer St 18-11-2013 18:52

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C'mon, Davo. The Accy Observer!
A font of sporting misinformation.

DAV007 18-11-2013 18:53

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If I recall it correctly, It was a peter Marsden quote

Exile on Spencer St 18-11-2013 19:02

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Then that's good news to my ears if it comes from the guy who's actually stumping up the money, surely.
However, I think we all know that your response, Davo, will be something along the lines of how The Merseyside Messiah would have had Stanley playing in Europe with that sort of money.
Maybe, maybe not.
But just let's be a tad happy, and grateful that Peter Marsden is putting his money where our hearts and hopes are.

yonmon 19-11-2013 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1084492)
C'mon, Davo. The Accy Observer!
A font of sporting misinformation.


And other topics as well ??....


On Shakespeare…
“Wasn’t Buttons in Midsummers Nights Dream?”
On Divorce…
“How can she be a single mother and a Mrs?”
On sexuality…
“If he’s 22 and single he must be gay”
Investigating the police…
“What’s Sergeant Hopwood’s first name…And what’s his rank?”
On prison…
“Is a jailbird someone who’s escaped?”
On self sacrifice…
“Why don’t you give blood, Merv?”
“It hurts.”
On health reporting…
“So you’re saying that one of the symptoms is stiffness?..oh sorry deafness”
Interviewing the organiser of a wine and cheese evening…
“And will there be refreshments?”


Always good for a laugh Exile..... if little else !... ( Particularly their apparent disregard and apathy towards anything 'Stanley' !)

( Source...'Hold the front page ').

Mr Matthew 23-11-2013 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Matthew (Post 1078610)
I thought Naismith was great against Pompey, with his pedigree you need to give him a chance.

Confidence goes such a long way at this level.

Not a bad day today for Naisy. Beginning to like Beattie and his decisions more and more.

Actually falling a tiny bit in love with him;)

cashman 23-11-2013 17:01

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All i can say about the thread starter n the 3 who liked it, I wouldn't like "ANY" of you gutless gits behind me on a battlefield.:rolleyes:

Outback Ozzy 23-11-2013 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1084952)
All i can say about the thread starter n the 3 who liked it, I wouldn't like "ANY" of you gutless gits behind me on a battlefield.:rolleyes:

As one of those "gutless gits" you talk about, I take much offence with this! May I suggest you read post '127' by myself, recanting my original agreement with DAV007 and my own post by humbly apologising for my
original post. Not often I would disagree with you Cashy, but on this one, I must.

cashman 23-11-2013 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1084963)
As one of those "gutless gits" you talk about, I take much offence with this! May I suggest you read post '127' by myself, recanting my original agreement with DAV007 and my own post by humbly apologising for my
original post. Not often I would disagree with you Cashy, but on this one, I must.

Offence?? its n honest opinion, as i assume yours was early doors, i had read post 127 outback n respect yeh changing yer mind. but have to say me view still stands,Yer entitled to disagree wi it, but as have always said as i see , n sorry i aint gonna change cos someone takes offence.

Tin Monkey 23-11-2013 18:40

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Pig-headed ignorance is no excuse. Pathetic really.

cashman 23-11-2013 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 1084967)
Pig-headed ignorance is no excuse. Pathetic really.

no wonder yeh moved.:rolleyes:

cashman 24-11-2013 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078159)
James Beattie is the manager of Accrington Stanley

League games alone -
10 played
0 wins
2 draws
8 defeats

Goals Scored - 6
Goals Conceded - 18

Total Points -2

After 10 league games, no one can deny the results are shocking/appalling/diabolical/unacceptable.


My biggest problem with James Beattie as our manager is simple, its his tactical knowledge and ability,
He doesn't have any.
He doesn't know how to change a game
His formations, team instructions, game plan, substitutions, player selection is all amateur.
He clearly is not cut out to be a football league manager.


The solution?
Easy.
We have a man in waiting who is available, who is proven, a good tactician, a man with ambition, a man who gets the best out of players at this level, he is use to working on a tight budget, is proven under pressure, and if the damage already done does take us down - has a track record to lead us back into the football league. And more importantly, is motivated to re-build his reputation after the Rochdale affair.

John Coleman - Save Our Season.
He would relish the chance to drag us up the table.

In Summary;
James, do the honourable thing and resign.

Finally,
learn from Barnet, don't leave it to late to make a change.
And never accept relegation as inevitable, we have a chance to make a change now and do something about it.
Now is the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 1084967)
Pig-headed ignorance is no excuse. Pathetic really.

The only pig headed ignorance i can see is the contents of the opening post. I am beginning to wonder if yeh actually agreed wi that statement, but hadn't the balls to say so? Our start was abysmal no doubt, but giving the manager 10 games n then people slagging him off is very Pathetic to me.I did honestly think yeh were better than that T.M. but life is full of surprises.:rolleyes:

maccawozzagod 24-11-2013 11:58

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and slagging people off for having a perfectly valid reason to doubt the manager is also Pathetic.

Whether its by fluke or by nouse he has come good over the last few games, and that's fantastic, but 10 games without a win entitles everyone to ask questions of a novice manager

choirboy 24-11-2013 12:04

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Quote DAV007;

James Beattie is the manager of Accrington Stanley

League games alone -
10 played
0 wins
2 draws
8 defeats

Goals Scored - 6
Goals Conceded - 18

Total Points -2

However....... just for comparison.....

Since then;
Last eight league matches
8 played
4 wins
3 draws
1 defeat

Goals scored - 11
Goals conceded - 7

Total points - 15

Undefeated in last 7 league matches

The novice manager comes good???

Keep the faith.:)


cashman 24-11-2013 12:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1085060)
and slagging people off for having a perfectly valid reason to doubt the manager is also Pathetic.

Whether its by fluke or by nouse he has come good over the last few games, and that's fantastic, but 10 games without a win entitles everyone to ask questions of a novice manager

Balls rob, That was not questions that were put, it was insulting to J.B. simple as. Everyone knew it was a terrible start, But the opening comments were beyond the pail. Still if you don't think so.:rolleyes:

Thin Monkey 24-11-2013 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1084952)
All i can say about the thread starter n the 3 who liked it, I wouldn't like "ANY" of you gutless gits behind me on a battlefield.:rolleyes:

As usual someone who disagrees with Cashman is a "Gutless Git".

The spirit of Voltaire lives on!

DaveinGermany 24-11-2013 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thin Monkey (Post 1085069)
The spirit of Voltaire lives on!

Voltaire? Wasn't he a cheese eating surrender Monkey? :eek:

DAV007 24-11-2013 14:46

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Nothing wrong with being wrong, people need to accept it and move on.

As I predicted after the last game, the same old forum users couldnt wait to get on here and try and prove something that still hasnt been proven.

A diabolical start has been replaced with a tremendous last 8 games.

What do games 20 - 30 hold?

cashman 24-11-2013 14:51

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You need to move on Davo, wi yer we want Old King Cole back.:D

Chubbyman 24-11-2013 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1085060)
and slagging people off for having a perfectly valid reason to doubt the manager is also Pathetic.

Whether its by fluke or by nouse he has come good over the last few games, and that's fantastic, but 10 games without a win entitles everyone to ask questions of a novice manager

No team in history has gone so many games unbeaten by fluke,so maybe now is the time to give credit for what Beattie is achieving !!!

Redraine 24-11-2013 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1085084)
You need to move on Davo, wi yer we want Old King Cole back.:D

Apparently the latest club he is touting himself around is Barrow. He might even get that job? Hope he gets it if that's what he wants.

DAV007 30-11-2013 19:44

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Suprised the usual suspects haven't pulled up this thread.

Mr Matthew 30-11-2013 20:05

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Still 3pts away from relegation. What a turn around. Well done James + the team.

Exile on Spencer St 30-11-2013 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1085980)
Suprised the usual suspects haven't pulled up this thread.

You just did, Davo.


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