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Chubbyman 27-10-2013 21:54

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1081379)
Nothing wrong with taking a chance on a player,
everything wrong with keeping with the same player who is not performing.

You haven't answered the question......it can't be the same person that you're intimating you're in a sexual relationship with?

DAV007 27-10-2013 21:55

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your avoiding the bigger issue chubbyman,
do you really rate Joyce and Murphy?

Murphy is a better RB than centre mid.

Chubbyman 27-10-2013 21:58

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1081379)
Nothing wrong with taking a chance on a player,
everything wrong with keeping with the same player who is not performing.

They came to the club in 2008 and 2009.....Coleman didn't leave until Jan.2012!!!!

DAV007 27-10-2013 22:00

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I agree with you about Joyce.

Murphy was a youth player which is a bit different.

And your opinion about our midfield?

Chubbyman 27-10-2013 22:06

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1081382)
your avoiding the bigger issue chubbyman,
do you really rate Joyce and Murphy?

Murphy is a better RB than centre mid.

To be honest Juries still out,they confuse me,Murphy can mix it physically and every team needs players like that,he has come up with some important goals eg Portsmouth and Morcambe and he showed what it meant jumping the barrier and going to the fans.I think Joyce has ability,but too much responsibility,the first thing I would do is remove him from captain (Hunt or Aldred to replace)and see how he copes with just playing.

DAV007 27-10-2013 22:17

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he was 'just playing' previously, and didn't offer a great deal.

We could do with a Linganzi or Craney.

Chubbyman 27-10-2013 22:26

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1081387)
he was 'just playing' previously, and didn't offer a great deal.

We could do with a Linganzi or Craney.

Linganzi 100% no doubt in my mind our biggest loss of all the players that left.
As for Craney never rated him,I don't think I ever saw him fit,always carried too much weight.

Redraine 27-10-2013 22:39

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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1081388)
Linganzi 100% no doubt in my mind our biggest loss of all the players that left.
As for Craney never rated him,I don't think I ever saw him fit,always carried too much weight.

Then you didn't see Craney in his first spell with us. He was dynamite! I agree that he never delivered the same performances when he returned, apart from his first game back at Bury, when he was great. Downhill all the way from then for me.

Chubbyman 27-10-2013 22:43

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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1081389)
Then you didn't see Craney in his first spell with us. He was dynamite! I agree that he never delivered the same performances when he returned, apart from his first game back at Bury, when he was great. Downhill all the way from then for me.

Yes I only saw him the second time round,he seemed to be only here to collect his wages!!

maccawozzagod 28-10-2013 01:50

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seems to be a bit more Murf knocking again ... Personally I'd play him up front, he has more Stanley career goals than the rest of the strike force put together (11 in 141 as opposed to 8 in 69 for Carver, McCarten, Gray, Webber, Odejayi and Bowerman)

Whilst he may not be the most cultured of twinkle toed primadonnas he is the closest thing we have to 'an enforcer' and I think that as the team improves his worth will become more and more apparent.

Interesting to note that through our 3 recent managers he has featured in every game this season, 45 of 46 last season (3 as sub) and 33 in 2011-12 (2 as sub). Of the 13 he missed in 2011 8 of them were right at the beginning of the season.

Murphy should be captain, end of story.

And he is still only 23 ...

cashman 28-10-2013 06:12

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Murphy whilst he aint the most cultured, would die fer the Stanley Shirt IMHO, I remember York away last season, he had n absolute stinker, even the York fans were cheering him,:eek: Popped up in the dying mins n scored the equaliser,that kept us in Div2. So fer my money the lad will do as Gareth Bales gone abroad.:D

lancsdave 28-10-2013 07:50

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You can usually tell how much of an impression on fans a player makes by the shirt sales. I beleive the most common name to go on the back of a shirt this season is Murphy by a long way. Now either he has a huge family or he's popular :)

shakermaker 28-10-2013 08:59

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Peter Murphy can be compared to a Phil Jones type of player. Both victims of their own versatility, neither are technically gifted and each possess the ability to allow their tempers to boil over. What is true of both players is that their desire to win football matches is rarely rivalled and that makes them players who can turn games. It's no coincidence that Murphy has scored last-minute goals for us on a number of occasions to either rescue us a draw or grab a win. It's a crying shame that he's harangued so much on messageboards and in the stands as players in his mould are few and far between but incredibly important at what they do. Aside from Nicky Hunt there's no other player in our squad with that kind of hunger to make the team do better. What players like Murphy and Jones lack in technical ability (indeed our own Dean Winnard was ahead of Jones in yoof/ressy land) they make up for in uniquely English grit and determination - something that our club has lost a lot of in recent years after JC's departure.

cashman 28-10-2013 09:18

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Agree shaker apart from the last sentence, i do not think fer 1 min we have lost a lot of grit @ determination, can't see that at all.:)

shakermaker 28-10-2013 11:14

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Have to disagree on that one cashy but methinks that's one for an entirely different thread :)

accybeme 28-10-2013 12:12

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this is a section taken from a post by Roger Fitton on the Vital Morecambe Forum:
(((Gray fell over in the Morecambe penalty area as Barry Roche pushed the ball away from his feet. It was a truly excellent and brave save. Inexplicably, however, Mr Haywood pointed to the spot and awarded a penalty to the visitors. The slogan 'Should Have Gone To Specsavers')))

Read more: Morecambe - A Darker Shade Of Grey

what this Shrimper refers to as Fell over I would call pole-axed first and collect the ball after

shakermaker 28-10-2013 12:32

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Cheers, accybeme.

'Vital Football' websites are addled with ill-put together nonsense and this one doesn't disappoint.

Had a good laugh though.

Chubbyman 28-10-2013 13:12

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Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1081438)
this is a section taken from a post by Roger Fitton on the Vital Morecambe Forum:
(((Gray fell over in the Morecambe penalty area as Barry Roche pushed the ball away from his feet. It was a truly excellent and brave save. Inexplicably, however, Mr Haywood pointed to the spot and awarded a penalty to the visitors. The slogan 'Should Have Gone To Specsavers')))

Read more: Morecambe - A Darker Shade Of Grey

what this Shrimper refers to as Fell over I would call pole-axed first and collect the ball after

Seen some biased reporting in my time ,but that really does make entertaining reading.

cashman 28-10-2013 13:33

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Well aware theres bad losers, but that takes the biscuit.:D:D:D:D:D:D

LongLostSon 28-10-2013 14:32

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Normally keep from commenting on player debates as only manage to see a handful of games when Stanley are down south. However, must say I have been surprised by the Murphy bashers. Apart from 1st half at Wimbledon this season, I have had the constant impression since conf days that our attack has been mainly a damp squib. Murphy has been for me the man most likely to get on the scoresheet and has probably scored most of the Stanley goals I've seen. He seems to always have in mind the objective of getting the ball in the net. Also have the impression that 'on target' is a greater priority with him than trying to find the corner and going harmlessly wide - a low percentage trait which doesn't work the keeper and cuts out chance of spilled ball and deflections. His mental attitude would have me using him behind the forwards with licence to shoot on sight. Just my opinion.

football19 28-10-2013 15:00

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Always thought Murph would end up as an holding midfielder.What people don't appreciate is that most of the time him and Joycy are outnumbered in midfield,so his jobs twice as hard.
He does a lot of work that goes unnoticed which let's the wingers stay wide and still pops up with important goals.
One little moan , stop diving !!!,and start bullying :)

yonmon 28-10-2013 17:36

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 1081444)
Cheers, accybeme.

'Vital Football' websites are addled with ill-put together nonsense and this one doesn't disappoint.

Had a good laugh though.

A whine made from sour grapes ?....the sad thing is that Morecambe's website is awash with undiluted vitriol couched in vulgarity, This speaks volumes about the following which Jim Bentley and his team don't deserve !.

choirboy 28-10-2013 17:37

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Lost my internet access since saturday so been frustrated to be unable to comment on the match......
Interesting reading lots of others comments before offering my own thoughts.
I thought that Morecambe were a poor side generally. Roche made some good saves but even from "t'other end" it was clearly a rash attempt to beat Gray to the ball. From where I was at "t'other end" and absolutely "square on" to Roches dash towards Gray he clearly went in feet first with studs showing and wether he got the ball first or second or not at all, or got Gray or not, it clearly was considered as dangerous play by the ref and I applaud his decision to award the penalty. Webber as as cool as the "Iceman" in the way he calmly sent it down the centre of the goal to put us one up. We dominated the whole of the first half, and again two up at half time would have been fair as it would last tuesday night. Morecambe came out for the second half having had a roasting and we let the lead slip too easily and too early. Morecambe then had their 25% of the match on top and Betinelli did his stuff again, but half way through the second half we came back into it and took charge again. Yes, it was looking like a draw until our late winner by Murphy. The lad does have the knack of scoring important goals. However, I do not condone his leap over the fence onto the terraces.
Neither do I condone the throwing of the flare onto the pitch. Both actions were simply stupid. Throwing flares is idiotic; a real danger to players, supporters and stewards and could cost us in a fine!!!! Getting booked for a stupid action like jumping over the wall is daft as Murphy is likely to "accumulate" more points during the season and he will probably get a suspension at some stage, thus letting team mates, manager and supporters down!!!
JB is clearly getting his ideas through to the players now and also to the fans and we are beginning to look much more cohesive and confident and we are playing like we are expecting to score goals and get a result!
Long may it continue.
ON STANLEY ON!:jimbo:

football19 28-10-2013 19:30

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Simply choirboy,the players are doing what they are being ask to do.It's took a little longer than first thought,but the foundations are in place to put a few decent results together.

mab 31-10-2013 08:22

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:) Cracking Tony Kipax match day pics :D smobile your on a number of them near the end after the winner :D http://www.kipax.com/gallery/index.p...um=ACCY%2F2969 also Morecambe 1-2 Accrington | Video | Watch TV Show | Sky Sports

Revived Red 31-10-2013 09:58

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It is not easy to be sure and I may be biased but Kipax's brilliant photos seem to suggest that Roche made contact with James Gray before claiming the ball.

mab 31-10-2013 10:04

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1081746)
It is not easy to be sure and I may be biased but Kipax's brilliant photos seem to suggest that Roche made contact with James Gray before claiming the ball.

Looks that way to me RR :)

AccyMad 31-10-2013 10:34

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I'd say there's enough in those photos to convince even the most argumentative of Morecambe fans ............. maybe even Mr. Bentley himself?? :)

cashman 31-10-2013 11:08

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If he made contact or not,he went in studs up, End of argument.

Tin Monkey 31-10-2013 11:44

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There are some dodgy looking people in those last goal celebrations :)

accybeme 31-10-2013 13:09

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The pictures are good quality but conveniently do not show the point where contact was made,
This sky sports video shows the view that the referee would have had and I think he was justified in awarding the penalty

Morecambe 1-2 Accrington | Video | Watch TV Show | Sky Sports

FrankMoody 31-10-2013 13:22

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1081754)
If he made contact or not,he went in studs up, End of argument.

Exactly.

Dangerous play....endangering an opponent....uncontrolled jump....etc etc

End of argument (again) :D

Outback Ozzy 31-10-2013 14:20

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Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1081761)
Exactly.

Dangerous play....endangering an opponent....uncontrolled jump....etc etc

End of argument (again) :D

Straight red in my opinion, but he stayed on the field of play, WHY?:confused:

AccyMad 31-10-2013 15:50

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1081766)
Straight red in my opinion, but he stayed on the field of play, WHY?:confused:

Was saying that throughout the game but it was worth it to see the look on his face when Murph put that last minute winner past him :D

teabag 31-10-2013 18:55

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 1081758)
There are some dodgy looking people in those last goal celebrations :)

pure joy mr monkey

VALAIRIAN 03-11-2013 19:04

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Even the kids are at it ... ;) :D

ASFC News Story > 5742

:) :) :)

Chubbyman 03-11-2013 20:56

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1082137)
Even the kids are at it ... ;) :D

ASFC News Story > 5742

:) :) :)

May it long continue!!!


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