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Just been on Sky - Shocking communication

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@ASFCofficial
BREAKING match referee Mark Brown has decided to postpone this afternoon's game with Burton following a lengthy pitch inspection

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Ya just heard on radio lacs as we set off! Ref called it off at 2:05pm because of a 2foot wide patch of frost in front of the mainstand :(

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Don't suppose The Crown pitch is wide enough to take 2 foot off either side and still be within the 'rules'?:rolleyes:

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Why was it shocking communication, was put on the website straight away :confused:

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Awful.

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On the radio before the club announced...disgraceful

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According to Mab the radio said the ref called it off at 2.05pm, whcih give a minute or two was correct, it was published on the website at 2.05pm, there were a few journo's in the press box so they must have phoned it in.

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Well it mentioned in the pub, perhaps we could have afforded undersoil heating, if that midfielder hadn't played upfront against Yeovil.!!!:D

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Maybe but we wouldn't have had time to get it installed before today :rolleyes: On the bright side, if I remember correctly he won't play again as his loan's up on 3rd Jan (hopefully before 3pm) :p

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It would have only taken 30 seconds to fit the square inch required today :)

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Sorry, Accymad but it's Jan 3rd inclusive so he'll be trundled out as is his right.

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If you get Buzzer to dig up the frozen area of pitch, put it in a matchbox and place it on the Exter pitch the game will be off ;)

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I'm sure I should be annoyed here but after a few beers it doesn't matter so much. It might be different tomorrow at work with a hangover though :D

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Is it me or what? the ref was here 11-30 ish! was obvious to me it wasn't gonna be a thaw today, so why did he p1ss about, shoulda been called off then in my eyes, that way many who traveled would have been saved the journey.:rolleyes:

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Maybe, depends on who the ref is???? :rolleyes:

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Good point :)

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"Brown" a proper color fer a turd.

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Stop being so disrespectful.

Referees read message boards, the last thing the club wants is for one of its fans who is consistently full of hate, for no good reason decides to abuse a referee based on his name.

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Stop being so paranoid and precious at the same time!

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You guys leave it late don't you.

You could have done with Big Kev to test the surface for you !

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BUT WHY SAY IT?

Its childish

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Even Kevin would've been ok with our pitch this afternoon - there were no puddles, just a bit of frost :rolleyes:

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Pretty sure the abuse of the ref wasn't because of his name, more because of his ridiculous decision making :rolleyes:

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Disgraceful decision to call off so late apparently Hazzelbank did,nt want to play funny their top striker was unfit, will cost the club big time money wise. Why wait untill 2-05 to call it off only good thing was a coach full of Burton fans in Crown till after 4-00 good banter with them and they wer,nt happy their manager wanted the game off. I was at the club this morning at 10-30 ish did,nt look out wrong with pitch then so why wait so late this will cost big time apparantly 400+ burton fans today work that out.

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[QUOTE=DAV007;1127571]BUT WHY SAY IT?

Its childish[/QUOTE
I almost can't be bothered to argue with you, but how come it's OK for you to say to Cashy "stop being disrespectful" but not for me to say to you " stop being paranoid and precious"?
You say Cashy is criticising the ref for no good reason, eh? May I refer you to Coley's thoughts on the fishy site for ample reasons to criticise the wally.

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As a friend of a referee, I know first hand how hard they have it.
damned if they do, damned if they dont.

Calling a game off should no be the decision of a referee.

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You have a friend??:D

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Yes, but he is a referee.:rolleyes:

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Och eye McDav it should be, because he is the only impartial party. (In theory :-))

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There was a motion put to the FA by a referee's group for the home team to make the call with police advice - a decision to be made within 2 hours of kick off time.

While there was a risk of the home team calling the game off for their own advantage, it would save the away team and fans traveling to the ground and prevent undue pressure and threats being placed on the referee.
As the home team would suffer the financial loss for any cancellation, it was considered a suitable counter balance to prevent an unnecessary cancellations.

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Traveled for 2 hours only to see on here at half 2 why was there no official announcement quicker, total communication brake down, that's one trip I'll never make again

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The official announcement was on the website within minutes after the game was called off, that automatically fed out to twitter and facebook. Not sure what else people expect :confused:

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It was called off too late Dave, Down to that numpty of a ref, who may even be Davs mate?:D

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Can,t blame the club for lack off communication I was in the Crown and Will relayed the news to the fans inside at about 2-10pm which was,nt long after it had been called off if you want blame Jack Frost and the referee leaving it so late.

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Suprisingly there were still people coming in to the club shop at 2.45pm for programmes not knowing the game was off. I know Stanley crowds aren't great but the lack of people around at that time might just have given a clue. One bloke even said he wondered why people were all walking the other way up Livingstone Rd, sometimes you have to wonder :)

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The Ref leaving it so late is totally to blame imho simple as.;) But Dav dont think so, so thats summat else i must be wrong about.

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What about an announcement on the website that there'd be a pitch inspection at 1:30? The ref said he'd inspect at 1:30 when he arrived at 11:30. Instead we had a wall of silence which contributed to me believing that the match was never in doubt and I had a two hour wasted journey.

I realise that it's a fine balance and the club wouldn't want to discourage potential fans coming to the match, but keeping information from the fans is a step backwards in my opinion.

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I think the fact that the 'game off ' message on the Fishy appeared on the 'news' page rather than 'home' must have meant that many of us missed it !.
It had yours truly fooled anyway !..... And NO comment please !.

And Dave...Stanley crowds ARE great !....a bit thick maybe but .....

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He had already inspected the pitch once. As far as I know his only concern was about the forecast if it was going to get colder.

You only need to see what went on after he called it off to get an idea of what everybody else thought the pitch was like.

One of the Burton staff who spoke to the referee on the pitch during the first inspection, then went off to unload the kit from the coach. They didn't seem to think there was a problem at that time.

Yes it's a fine balance, but if there is a real doubt the club have announced pitch inspections before.

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If it wasn't fit in the refs eyes 1st inspection, yeh dont have to be Michal Fish,to know it wasn't gonna thaw yesterday.:rolleyes:

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There should have been real doubt as Chubbyman posted at 12.44pm that the ref was concerned about hard patches and there would be a further inspection at 1.30pm.

The twitter posts were misleading at best, I wonder what the Burton fans thought of it and how many will have lost good will and not make a second trip? The fans should have been properly warned about the 1.30pm inspection as soon as it was known it was taking place to make an informed decision.

More respect from the club to the fans is needed.

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So if you've got a 2 hour journey to the ground, and you do know there is an inspection at 1.30, what do you do differently? Wait for the result of the inspection and turn up at half-time if the game is on, or cross your fingers and leave at 12.30 as usual?

The endless knocking of Stanley people (staff, management and players) who are almost certainly trying their best in pretty difficult circumstances, and come to that of anyone who tries to provide an opposing voice of reason, is really grinding me down lately. This website used to be fun to follow - these days its just getting vicious.

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I'll tell what a lot of us from Burton thought about it.
The posts in the morning were completely positive about the game being on and there was no suggestion an inspection was needed. We drove up in bright sunshine with the temperature always above zero, as it was when we got to Accy.

I think it's laughable blaming "Jack Frost" when the weather was as decent, albeit cold, as it was on the day. One of the biggest frustrations is that we KNOW the game would have been on at our place because we have proper covers and groundstaff who bust their asses to get games on as a matter of professional pride.

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Well my friend we heard your manager wanted it called off, ours certainly didn't, cos he had our lads in a 5 aside match on the pitch, directly after it was called off.

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what we heard outside the ground was that both sides wanted to play. Our manager has only said we had to respect the ref's decision...

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C.C. We may not have a team of ground staff, but anybody who knows our Head groundsman - :) - knows that he busts his gut, ass and everything he has to get every game on, as a matter of professional pride!

Agree with you that both teams wanted it on.

:)

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The ref was yon at 11-30 inspected then, n said another at 1-30, which was stupid,given the fact it was never gonna thaw,if it wasn't playable then? so it shoulda been called off early doors n saved your fans n some of ours traveling.

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Burton website JFH feeling sorry for the fans.

Stanley website JC feeling sorry for lost income.

Look after the fans and Stanley may gain or keep a few more. If you know the game is in doubt it is your risk whether or no you travel, however some may not and income is down if the game is played but you keep good will.

The 8 a side 'game' on he pitch afterwards from the picture shows in the very top left why it was postponed. Stanley sometimes trained on the car park at the Coppice end around 25 years ago, so it isn't fooling anyone.

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Fair enough re. your groundsman. He must be bloody frustrated, then, not to have better tools for the job. I know good covers cost money but (with only one home FL game postponed in four and a half seasons) we know they pay for themselves over and over.

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Agree.but yeh gotta be able to afford em in the first place.

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Our ground is the 4th highest in feet above sea level in the whole 4 top divisions in the fooball league (516 feet). Says it all!

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Whoever runs the Burton twitter account seemed to be 'questioning' the decision

https://twitter.com/burtonalbionfc/s...972544/photo/1

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It doesn't say why the club was so positive about it being on in the morning!

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The positivity was because any person not brainwashed by barmy H@S ideology would have been positive. The fact that Coley played an 11 a side on the pitch speaks volumes to me.

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That sums it up very well to me.

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Well there's another bit of Soccer trivia that has escaped me...516 feet as well !.
But thanks for the info CC , Oh yes and I bet our groundsman is better than yours...so there !;)

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Your manager kept on at the ref about a couple of hard patches maybe because your star man was out ...I think you lot are similar to Morcambe and a bunch of ass holes....and as for our groundsman he's worth 10 of yours,the work he puts in on our budget is tremendous,and Stanley played a 1 hr practice match on the pitch 11 a side with no slipping ,injuries or problems,so you decide if the game should of been called off.

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Its spelt Morecambe :alright:

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True, but we all think it also spells "3 points" :alright:

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That 6 points keeps you in the league mot seasons :alright:

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Love it exile !.... M O R E C A M B E Red never learns does he ??.

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It also usually keeps us above Morecambe, but don't think we're not grateful :).

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It's spelt MOST !.... Doesn't pay to play the pedant on our Forum MR !.... Unless you can of course ( In less than 300 words !) Explain the meaning of the word 'mot' in relation to your post !.

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Now me owd mucker, its the only way he can amuse himself, seeing as they never win a do against us.;):alright:

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Isn't he priceless? God's gift. The season's greetings to you, M.R. Keep 'em coming!

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That is very much the story i heard, So i reckon the standing in the game that J.F.H. has, compared to our managers, then the likelihood is the ref would take more notice of JFH.? And before our lot start, this aint a pop at J.C. its just common sense.

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I went back to edit it and unless its done within 10 minutes one has to contact admin. !

We have always been safe from relegation before the final week.

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Yeh aint been in the league same amount of time, so thats an invalid point.:rolleyes:

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Looking at JFH's c.v. he has only experienced football in the rarefied heights of the European top leagues where heated pitches are the norm. He needs to lower his standards a bit to deal with opponents less blessed with moolah at the more deprived level in which we and Morecambe operate. By the way, Morecambe Red, what happened to your Far East shining knights with the big investment you were telling us about?

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(1) We have a bigger squad this season from an increased playing budget. That is when your manager is given more money to recruit players than he had in the previous season.

(2) We are developing our own training ground and facilities at a base within Morecambe. The drainage work was done last Summer and passed Kevin's test !

(3) Our Chairman who spends more time in China than England expects us to be selling more Morecambe FC replica kit in China than here within a few years.

(4) Plans are being drawn up and price estimates sought for an extension at the rear of the home terrace.

(5) We have never been in the High court to fight any winding up orders for none payment of P.A.Y.E. etc.

(6) We have covers for the entire playing surface for helping to keep the frost away.

Listening to Coley on the Radio on Sunday it sounded like paying your players their December salaries might be difficult after the Burton postponement and the loss of around £6k which Burton fans would have brought.

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You missed arse hole

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Why, is he expecting a grandchild? :rolleyes:

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To be perfectly honest, if I'd known that that pitch was still frozen and there was to be another inspection at 1:30, I'd not have bothered travelling at all. It doesn't take a genius to work out that frozen soil isn't going to thaw at temperatures of 1 degree.

Mind you, I'd agree that this forum isn't what it was. That's why I don't bother with it as much nowadays.

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Thing is its gone down fer many reasons, Jase got banned, one lad joined the navy, a couple at least died, but if everyone took your way Tin Monkey there wouldn't be a Stanley Forum.:rolleyes:

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Bully for you maybe one day we might get a sugar daddy won,t make us bigger or better than anyone else though arse hole.

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There's a difference between investment and a sugar daddy and there's no need for personal abuse.

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Damn right there isn't.

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Gents;

Can we please keep this "healthy" debate civil!! Don't want to close the thread as some valid points are being made :)

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Totally agree Mr.T. :cheers:

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[QUOTE=Morecambe_Red;1127709]I went back to edit it and unless its done within 10 minutes one has to contact admin. !



Then for your own self dignity if nothing else why did you not contact the Administrator ?...
Therefore we must all conclude that your spelling, or your ability to check your posts for errors, particularly when making an unnecessary attempt to criticise another's slip of the finger, leaves much to be desired !.
On the other hand, and quoting Benjamin Franklin :-
" He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else ". This might go some way to explain the quality of your occasional posts and the thoughts expressed therein !.

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[QUOTE=yonmon;1127744]

In other words cross Yonmon at your peril !!!

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Well perhaps - but while Yonmon's responses may be sharp, they are always polite and amusing, unlike many .......... :(

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Oh stop moaning chimer, its a football forum not a night school.:rolleyes:

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This is exactly why I voted for you as Fan of the Year !...... What was the result of Dav's poll by the way ?

And a happy New Year to Morecambe Red ...... Sincerely !.

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Quite right. Compared with some football forums I have seen, ours is a model of decorum.

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I once saw a model of Dacorum in Berkhampstead town hall.:rolleyes:

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Was that the one with 'er chebs out? :w00t:

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Love it Exile !.....banter par excellence !.

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If my memory serves me right, this is an 100% unofficial stanley forum???

I remember signing up 10 years ago and the reason for it moving to accyweb from the fishy was that the club didn't want anything on the forum being officially associated with the club.

So why are members of club threatening to close threads???

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I'm newer to this than you, Smudgie, but, as far as I know, Mr.T is what is termed a 'moderator' for this part of the Accyweb.
His role is therefore to moderate outbreaks of scatalogical abuse, which some folk find both unpleasant and unnecessary, before the thread ends up in the s**t.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...eusepolicy.pdf

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Why's somebody from the club threatening to close threads; because that's the Modertors job!!

When Mel stepped down ages ago; there was a request for somebody to take over; guess how many people rushed forward to take over???

Yes you gueesed correctly; nobody!!

Unless there was a Moderator this section would close.

I said I'd "do it" until somebody else volunteered.

As I said on onther thread awhile ago; happy to step aside and pass on the batton. Any takers or even a "job share"!!

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DAV007 would be popular.

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Have to say this is 100% correct, cos i was yon in the Railway when MrT was accepted as a mod fer the forum, Much as i have disagreed wi him, The Stanley Forum woulda gone if he hadn't took it on.

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He would get DAV007's vote, for sure.;)

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Your forgetting all his non forum friends

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Dave !...Whilst wishing you every good thing for 2015, I have to confess that you managed to find a gap in my vocabulary with this word 'chebs' !.
So I googled it and discovered it referred to that certain part of a ladies anatomy which always has a couple of good points going for it !..( It is at this juncture that Accymad and the others on the distaff side of our Forum cross me off next years Christmas Card list !).
It also seems that according to the many examples of it's usage outlined on wordnik, the expression is one often used by members of the Army as opposed to other walks of life !.
This then, plus leading a sheltered and somewhat puritanic life, is probably the reason for me missing out on a word which seems perfectly adequate when describing the objects mentioned previously !.

( PS..Alfred.E. Is so disappointed that he cannot find any evidence of any sort of statue or image in Berkhamsted Town Hall displaying it's 'chebs' , and feels that Exile has conned him yet again !).

Happy New Year !.... And KTF!.

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I'd like to volunteer.....not to do it :)

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And all the best to you two too! May 2015 be a good year for you both & all the other merry souls (or grumpy for that matter :))who frequent these pages.

We're never to owd to learn something new my friend. ;)

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May is only a month not a full year in England :)