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FrankMoody 27-01-2015 19:42
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Is it only the fans that can see how poor our forward players have been for weeks, we have no spark, no invention, and tbh it looks like a lack of desire.

st06nc2 27-01-2015 19:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1131208)
Looks like Tom is off.............. Gutted ! :(
Better him going now than free at end of season

mab 27-01-2015 19:53
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Tom sat near us in the main stand injured

Chubbyman 27-01-2015 21:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131207)
All Stanley first 15 mins and we should have made better use of winning the majority of the aerial battles. However Bury should have scored when there striker messed up a volley when 8 yards out around the 17 min mark. Burys centre half nearly got on the end of a whipped in free kick around 20 mins. Bury are trying to expose the flanks as we push up , their number 2 practically hugged the line from 25 mins onwards. Again that same defender number 27 arrived in the box with pace from a corner and caught Stanley asleep which went just over the bar around 38 mins. At the very end of the half bury again exploited Stanley s lack of pace and space down buxtons side but missed their chance again. A equal 1st half but bury should have taken one of their chances and Stanley need to rethink the tactics or close down the source of Burys passes to the left wing , as there is every chance Bury will not keep being so careless in the 2nd half. Buxton looks a lot more exposed than Winnard. Maguire and McCartan have done nothing while Joyce's decision making with the ball has been a second to slow.

What's your assessment of Super Johnny Coleman... The man with the coaching badges?

cashman 27-01-2015 21:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1131209)
Is it only the fans that can see how poor our forward players have been for weeks, we have no spark, no invention, and tbh it looks like a lack of desire.
Hardly a shock when our main striker is a winger n before that a winger n a midfielder.:rolleyes: But still super J.C. knows best.:rolleyes: Plus carver comes on with a couple of mins left. Ludicrous imho.

Outback Ozzy 27-01-2015 21:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131207)
All Stanley first 15 mins and we should have made better use of winning the majority of the aerial battles. However Bury should have scored when there striker messed up a volley when 8 yards out around the 17 min mark. Burys centre half nearly got on the end of a whipped in free kick around 20 mins. Bury are trying to expose the flanks as we push up , their number 2 practically hugged the line from 25 mins onwards. Again that same defender number 27 arrived in the box with pace from a corner and caught Stanley asleep which went just over the bar around 38 mins. At the very end of the half bury again exploited Stanley s lack of pace and space down buxtons side but missed their chance again. A equal 1st half but bury should have taken one of their chances and Stanley need to rethink the tactics or close down the source of Burys passes to the left wing , as there is every chance Bury will not keep being so careless in the 2nd half. Buxton looks a lot more exposed than Winnard. Maguire and McCartan have done nothing while Joyce's decision making with the ball has been a second to slow.
You were obviously at a different match then. First 15 was all Bury. Time for the Messiah and you to go methinks (my opinion only). Buxton and Mingoia played well for me that is until Buxton was subbed due to another injury. Yes Stanley played with some passion especially in the last 20 minutes but it was same old same old. No height up front playing against a team of thugs (for want of a better word) fore arm tackles and rugby tackles have no place in football, yet Bury were getting away with it most of the night. Referee was poor IMHO. Could have and should have booked players and the goalscorer should not have been on the pitch again IMHO. I thought Maguire had a half decent game but until we have some height up front then we are not going to score. Why not try Hunt as centre forward, he can do no worse than the players who were up front tonight. Really annoyed because we did not deserve to lose, nor did we deserve to win either. Promotion, forget it, I think we are safe from relegation, but we are going to lose more than we win up until the end of the season unless things change rapidly.

dantoro19 27-01-2015 21:15
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Anyone else notice the presence of Graham Westley in the main stand tonight?
I certainly did so asked him "Do you remember the play off semi final from a few years ago?" He said "Yes" So i asked him "Could you explain to me why you decided to set up your team to cheat and injure our players to get through to the play off final?" He replied with a wry smile and "Enjoy the game." I noticed instantly that he didn't exactly deny it...
As for the game, unlucky to lose, it was very even and just one lapse of our defence gave them the win, unfortunately these lapses are becoming very common these days.

dantoro19 27-01-2015 21:23
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Also, why on earth did we have the Bury announcer on the tannoy? Just ludicrous

FrankMoody 27-01-2015 21:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1131220)
....... Why not try Hunt as centre forward, he can do no worse than the players who were up front tonight. Really annoyed because we did not deserve to lose, nor did we deserve to win either. Promotion, forget it, I think we are safe from relegation, but we are going to lose more than we win up until the end of the season unless things change rapidly.
Here's a revolutionary idea... Why not try one of our centre forwards sitting on the bench as a centre forward???? Bit radical for for our current management team I think.

I agree we didnt deserve to win tonight, little passion, little desire.... Are they playing for the manager??

Chubbyman 27-01-2015 21:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1131223)
Here's a revolutionary idea... Why not try one of our centre forwards sitting on the bench as a centre forward???? Bit radical for for our current management team I think.

I agree we didnt deserve to win tonight, little passion, little desire.... Are they playing for the manager??
What Manager?

football19 27-01-2015 21:58
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Thought we had a right go and deserved at least a draw against a very physical team.
I was convinced we would keep a clean sheet and the sweeper conneely was excellent.
We played some great possession football but once again lacked that killer touch.
I was on the fence about the keeper,and for me the goal scored just needed him to come and deal with it.he started to come then stopped and the lad just headed it in from a couple of yards-- did he bottle the challenge?,only he will know,but other keepers would have smashed the lad.
Not too disheartened and thought Joycy played a captains role (except for the two corners near the end !!!)

shakermaker 27-01-2015 22:07
Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1131225)
Thought we had a right go and deserved at least a draw against a very physical team.
I was convinced we would keep a clean sheet and the sweeper conneely was excellent.
We played some great possession football but once again lacked that killer touch.
I was on the fence about the keeper,and for me the goal scored just needed him to come and deal with it.he started to come then stopped and the lad just headed it in from a couple of yards-- did he bottle the challenge?,only he will know,but other keepers would have smashed the lad.
Not too disheartened and thought Joycy played a captains role (except for the two corners near the end !!!)
Was going to post but saw it the exact same way as you.

As for the tannoy ridiculousness... There are serious questions to be asked of the people who make these decisions.

Getting sick of the club taking the **** out of itself.

Redraine 27-01-2015 22:10
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For once I agree with Football19 on his points, except I don't really think we deserved a draw, as I can't remember Pope having a save to make, yet Bury had 2 golden chances in the 1st half. Certainly our keeper should have caught the cross to prevent the goal. Carver on for the last 2 minutes? Come on, Coley, stop messing with his head and give him a decent chance, instead of persevering with Maguire, another waste of space loanee!

choirboy 27-01-2015 22:19
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A really disappointing result tonight against Bury. :(
I thought that a draw would have been a fair result.:idunno:
The play in the first half was fairly equal but Bury had three real scoring chances from which they should have had at least one goal. Their centre half put a header over the bar in front of the Clayton End from about five yards and they also had two shots hit over the bar. We didn't really have a shot on target during the first half.:mad:
The second half was a total turnaround and our players took charge of the game.:)
We had far more possession and moved the ball down the wings well with Pierro doing some great work on the right. I thought that we could have got the ball to him even more as he was really outplaying their left back.:hothothot
We had loads of chances to score but without a real centre forward with the "knack" in the box it was looking unlikely that we would get the goal that our overall second half display deserved. Inevitably, we got 'sucker punched' with nine minutes to go. Having blocked one cross we left a BIG guy clear on the far post and well....that was that!:eek:
On the POSITIVE side........Buxton had a good game for me but needs more match fitness. Coneely was probably our best player. He was cool under pressure. His positional play was excellent and he didn't waste a single pass. Atkinson was steady as usual. Procky played his heart out and Luke Joyce got stuck in and played further upfield in the second half where I would prefer him to be all the time. Shay McCarten was busy and was a bit unlucky near the end when he got into a good scoring position but the ball got stuck 'under' his feet! As I already said Pierro did well on the right wing.:)
On the disappointing side ......... It is a bit difficult to understand why we didn't bring Carver on with twenty to twenty five minutes to go. He was only brought on at 87 minutes played. In those last three minutes plus the four added on he did ok and had he been on earlier I think that he could have put a lot of pressure on their defence. Their number 5 had been booked and he would have been at real risk of an early bath had Carver been allowed to work on him! Of course the number 5 should have been booked earlier but that apart I thought that the referee was quite good. I also thought that the young lady running the line on the Whinney Hill side did a good job too.
I looked at the BBC stats for the match and we had 17 shots on goal but only four were on target with no goals scored. Bury had ten shots on goal with three on target and one scored. If we had the same 'conversion rate' as Bury then we would have won 3 - 1.
We are clearly missing John O'Sullivan who seems to be having a 'holiday' at Rovers!
We need a Centre Forward. I don't know what the situation is with Tom Aldred but if he is staying then I would put him 'Up Front' alongside Marcus Carver.
This was the biggest match of the season so far for us.... but now the next match on Saturday against Northampton becomes "THE BIGGEST MATCH OF THE SEASON".:cool:
Keep the Faith everyone.:smack:
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

DAV007 27-01-2015 22:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1131220)
You were obviously at a different match then.
Clearly,
as your version of events is simply bizarre.

First half Bury where the better team, 2nd half Stanley where the better team.

I assume its a lack of match experience which is the problem with Macey which is why Arsenal have allowed him to come out on loan
His confidence will only grow with more game time but he does have a mistake or two within him.


I though Buxton was our worst player today, he was a constant liability defensivly.
I though Conneely was MOM (the difference in playing him at CB instead of LB!) and did well against Hope who for me was doing well for Bury, no idea why they subbed him.
Atkinsons distribution is shocking, he gave the ball away numerous times.
Winnard played well at right back.
I though Proccy had his best game in a while.
McCartan and McGuire where both non existent in the first half, especially McGuire who is clearly NOT a centre forward.
McCartan grew into the game 2nd half but McGuire continued to do nothing in the striker role, surely he cant play in the next game?

Wile we had a few chances in the 2nd half, and Windass messed up his chance from 6 yards out towards the end, we did not make any clear cut chances.
Bury had the better chances but only in the 1st half, 2nd half they didnt create alot.
I thought the referee did well, he tried to let the game flow.

Im dissapointed we lost, we didnt deserve to but we must start taking our chances.
I would pick the same team for the next game EXCEPT for McCartan, McGuire and Buxton who must be dropped.
McCartan has had his chance and not come up with the goals in recent weeks likewise McGuire is not a striker, the lad has had more than his fair share of chances and should benched for Carver or Bowerman.
Buxton was a liability, if he is not fit enough yet then he should be benched for Liddle.

Some good positives tonight, especially in the 2nd half.
We have the makings of a good team, just need a focal point up top and need to sort out the defensive lapses.

DAV007 27-01-2015 22:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 1131226)
Was going to post but saw it the exact same way as you.

As for the tannoy ridiculousness... There are serious questions to be asked of the people who make these decisions.

Getting sick of the club taking the **** out of itself.
the 2nd half announcement 'welcome back onto the field the mighty shakers' was out of order.

Chubbyman 27-01-2015 22:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131230)
Clearly,
as your version of events is simply bizarre.

First half Bury where the better team, 2nd half Stanley where the better team.

I assume its a lack of match experience which is the problem with Macey which is why Arsenal have allowed him to come out on loan
His confidence will only grow with more game time but he does have a mistake or two within him.


I though Buxton was our worst player today, he was a constant liability defensivly.
I though Conneely was MOM (the difference in playing him at CB instead of LB!) and did well against Hope who for me was doing well for Bury, no idea why they subbed him.
Atkinsons distribution is shocking, he gave the ball away numerous times.
Winnard played well at right back.
I though Proccy had his best game in a while.
McCartan and McGuire where both non existent in the first half, especially McGuire who is clearly NOT a centre forward.
McCartan grew into the game 2nd half but McGuire continued to do nothing in the striker role, surely he cant play in the next game?

Wile we had a few chances in the 2nd half, and Windass messed up his chance from 6 yards out towards the end, we did not make any clear cut chances.
Bury had the better chances but only in the 1st half, 2nd half they didnt create alot.
I thought the referee did well, he tried to let the game flow.

Im dissapointed we lost, we didnt deserve to but we must start taking our chances.
I would pick the same team for the next game EXCEPT for McCartan, McGuire and Buxton who must be dropped.
McCartan has had his chance and not come up with the goals in recent weeks likewise McGuire is not a striker, the lad has had more than his fair share of chances and should benched for Carver or Bowerman.
Buxton was a liability, if he is not fit enough yet then he should be benched for Liddle.

Some good positives tonight, especially in the 2nd half.
We have the makings of a good team, just need a focal point up top and need to sort out the defensive lapses.
You're wrong about Buxton!!! Why have you not answered my question about your Super Johnny ?

FrankMoody 27-01-2015 22:45
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Just heard the managers after match interview.... Wow! How to win friends and influence players....NOT.

Slags the keeper off: 'his mistake cost us the game',
Has a go at windass for missing a chance,
Basically destroys Gray and suggests he has no chance of playing despite admitting he's probably our best hope for scoring goals,
And finally hangs Aldred out to dry!

I know things are never great when a team goes through a bad patch but surely that's when togetherness, team spirit and belief in each other is vital.

DAV007 27-01-2015 22:46
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he did ok, he changed the tactics 2nd half and we where the better team.
He has also given McGuire more than his far share of chances as a striker and should drop him or play him as a winger.
The team is crying out for a target man striker.

99% of Bury's success in the first half came down Buxtons side.
Likewise in the 2nd half.
He was poor defensivly but its fair to say Naismith gives him little support.

choirboy 27-01-2015 22:47
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Dear DAV,
We seem to be in agreement on most counts of tonights game except about Buxton. Actually, I was disappointed that Liddle was left out a few matches ago after he had played so well since returning from injury. I thought that Buxton was good tonight going forward and whilst I accept that on occasions he can get caught out of position through being adventurous, at least he was getting stuck in and trying to create some forward movement and action! I accept your point though and see a role for him more likely to be in midfield. I believe that McCarten would score more goals if he had a 'true centre forward' up there with him!
Totally agree about Coneely being MOM tonight.
Come on you REDS:mosher:

pud 27-01-2015 22:48
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Unlucky tonight on the balance of play I think you deserved a draw but I think we have in Pope a fantastic keeper! Chances I think we had more clear chances but certainly second half we either dropped back and let you have a lot of the ball or you pushed us back.

It is the first game this season I think we have had a bit of luck. Your left back impressed me tonight who was it?

DAV007 27-01-2015 22:50
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or frankmoody, unlike beattie who was positive for the sake of being positive when there was glaringly obvious problems, Coley is being honest.

I agree with him about the keepers mistake and Windass messing up.
If Windass had the same chance again, I would back him to take it.

But, he needs to admit McGuire is simply not the answer in the system he wants to play.

Chubbyman 27-01-2015 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1131235)
Just heard the managers after match interview.... Wow! How to win friends and influence players....NOT.

Slags the keeper off: 'his mistake cost us the game',
Has a go at windass for missing a chance,
Basically destroys Gray and suggests he has no chance of playing despite admitting he's probably our best hope for scoring goals,
And finally hangs Aldred out to dry!

I know things are never great when a team goes through a bad patch but surely that's when togetherness, team spirit and belief in each other is vital.
No doubt it's every bodies fault but his,he picked the team,he's the head coach,just think about the Bury warm up and the work they did then look at our pathetic folly.Totally Amateurish.I'll go and listen to his garbage now.

Redraine 27-01-2015 22:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pud (Post 1131238)
Unlucky tonight on the balance of play I think you deserved a draw but I think we have in Pope a fantastic keeper! Chances I think we had more clear chances but certainly second half we either dropped back and let you have a lot of the ball or you pushed us back.

It is the first game this season I think we have had a bit of luck. Your left back impressed me tonight who was it?
Our left back was Buxton, who everyone on this forum thought had a good game, except Dav007. Strange, that.

DAV007 27-01-2015 22:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pud (Post 1131238)
Unlucky tonight on the balance of play I think you deserved a draw but I think we have in Pope a fantastic keeper! Chances I think we had more clear chances but certainly second half we either dropped back and let you have a lot of the ball or you pushed us back.

It is the first game this season I think we have had a bit of luck. Your left back impressed me tonight who was it?
Why did Flitcroft sub Jones and Hope?
I though Jones kept on catching our left back out in the first half and Hope looks just the kind of striker who would fit our system perfectly.

Cameron could have had a hatrick tonight.
Just missed out on sliding in on a free kick
Stinging Header over the bar from a corner
scored in the 2nd half

He is one of the best league 2 CB I have seen, He has pace and is good in the air. Suprised he is playing at this level.

choirboy 27-01-2015 22:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pud (Post 1131238)
Unlucky tonight on the balance of play I think you deserved a draw but I think we have in Pope a fantastic keeper! Chances I think we had more clear chances but certainly second half we either dropped back and let you have a lot of the ball or you pushed us back.

It is the first game this season I think we have had a bit of luck. Your left back impressed me tonight who was it?
It was BUXTON ....DAV,are you reading this?:rolleyes:

DAV007 27-01-2015 22:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1131241)
Our left back was Buxton, who everyone on this forum thought had a good game, except Dav007. Strange, that.
Havent criticised Buxton once for his attacking attributes, but defensivly he was a liability

all Bury's success came down his side

Chubbyman 27-01-2015 22:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1131241)
Our left back was Buxton, who everyone on this forum thought had a good game, except Dav007. Strange, that.
Not forgetting he got a knock early on ,he got stuck in and kept battling that's why he's Rhino,more guts in his big toe than DAV and Coley have together in their whole beings.

DAV007 27-01-2015 23:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1131245)
Not forgetting he got a knock early on ,he got stuck in and kept battling that's why he's Rhino,more guts in his big toe than DAV and Coley have together in their whole beings.
haters going to hate.

choirboy 27-01-2015 23:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1131235)
Just heard the managers after match interview.... Wow! How to win friends and influence players....NOT.

Slags the keeper off: 'his mistake cost us the game',
Has a go at windass for missing a chance,
Basically destroys Gray and suggests he has no chance of playing despite admitting he's probably our best hope for scoring goals,
And finally hangs Aldred out to dry!

I know things are never great when a team goes through a bad patch but surely that's when togetherness, team spirit and belief in each other is vital.
Hmmm .....I agree with most of that Frank.
Coley seems to be as confused as the rest of us at the moment!:idunno:

DAV007 27-01-2015 23:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1131235)
Just heard the managers after match interview.... Wow! How to win friends and influence players....NOT.

Slags the keeper off: 'his mistake cost us the game',
Has a go at windass for missing a chance,
Basically destroys Gray and suggests he has no chance of playing despite admitting he's probably our best hope for scoring goals,
And finally hangs Aldred out to dry!

I know things are never great when a team goes through a bad patch but surely that's when togetherness, team spirit and belief in each other is vital.
SAME OLD FRANK MOODY WITH COMPLETE LIES

Coleman tells the truth, says he should have come for it and its something the keeper has admitted and something they work on.

At no point does he have ago at Windass, he said he was 'dissapointed we didnt work the keeper'.
'WE'
and he is right, it was a poor from Windass

He is very acurate about our team, we have good approach players and hold up players which is correct, and we dont have a goal scorer which is right.

He doesnt 'destroy' Gray at all, he makes it clear to the fans why Gray isnt in the team, for all those same reasons why so many of you with short memories complained about how ineffective and lightweight Gray was under Beattie.


And how does he hang Aldred out to dry?
If a player tells the manager he is injured, what is Coleman meant to do, to lie to the fans?


Now you hate Coleman for being honest and telling the truth, haters gonna hate.

You need to take the chip of your shoulder and try watching the game in a constructive and honest manner.
I want you now to re-watch the interview and apologise for spreading lies about our manager.
Please Frank, stop being so negative.

Chubbyman 27-01-2015 23:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1131247)
Hmmm .....I agree with most of that Frank.
Coley seems to be as confused as the rest of us at the moment!:idunno:
Disappointed with Coleys remarks on Tom,the lengths I know some of what he has gone through to get on the pitch to keep his appearance run going.Coley knows what's gone on ,if he suggests Tom isn't being honest he could have had a doctor look at him.Coley has lost the dressing room, I repeat Coley has lost the dressing room and he just wants to blame everyone but himself,the problem is that if you play well you stand a good chance of being dropped.

DAV007 27-01-2015 23:46
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chubbyman has lost his mind.

Who is your club mole on the playing staff?

Has your mole told you Aldred has been subject to an approach from another club?

Chubbyman 28-01-2015 00:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131250)
chubbyman has lost his mind.

Who is your club mole on the playing staff?

Has your mole told you Aldred has been subject to an approach from another club?
Only 1 ?

Chubbyman 28-01-2015 00:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131248)
SAME OLD FRANK MOODY WITH COMPLETE LIES

Coleman tells the truth, says he should have come for it and its something the keeper has admitted and something they work on.

At no point does he have ago at Windass, he said he was 'dissapointed we didnt work the keeper'.
'WE'
and he is right, it was a poor from Windass

He is very acurate about our team, we have good approach players and hold up players which is correct, and we dont have a goal scorer which is right.

He doesnt 'destroy' Gray at all, he makes it clear to the fans why Gray isnt in the team, for all those same reasons why so many of you with short memories complained about how ineffective and lightweight Gray was under Beattie.


And how does he hang Aldred out to dry?
If a player tells the manager he is injured, what is Coleman meant to do, to lie to the fans?


Now you hate Coleman for being honest and telling the truth, haters gonna hate.

You need to take the chip of your shoulder and try watching the game in a constructive and honest manner.
I want you now to re-watch the interview and apologise for spreading lies about our manager.
Please Frank, stop being so negative.
Coleman honest ? I think not . Should we go toe to toe DAV ?

Chubbyman 28-01-2015 00:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131250)
chubbyman has lost his mind.

Who is your club mole on the playing staff?

Has your mole told you Aldred has been subject to an approach from another club?
Only you and I online now DAV ,come on let's go for it ......got lots on you saviour !!! Come on, take me on !!!

Chubbyman 28-01-2015 00:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1131253)
Only you and I online now DAV ,come on let's go for it ......got lots on you saviour !!! Come on, take me on !!!
Oops a visitor from Glasgow

deeayess 28-01-2015 00:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1131254)
Oops a visitor from Glasgow
Not Glasgow but currently on the M6 just north of Preston and you keep quoting him :D

I'll be worried if I end up in Glasgow because the bus is heading for Belfast.

I'll save my comments for tomorrow :D

shakermaker 28-01-2015 06:24
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Coleman's interview, for anyone who'd like to see it rather than rely on highly selective and often bizarre interpretations on here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7p_ddP4hu4

Can't disagree with a word he's said or how he's said it. Certainly beats the gumph we were given in the first few months of this season and the entirety of last.

Jeg Red 28-01-2015 06:56
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Just seen Colemans's post match interview and, whilst most of it is fair, I thought some elements of it were unnecessary.

Sometimes singling players out for praise or criticism is helpful and motivational however in the cases of Macey, Gray and Aldred I don't think it is.

Macey has come here for experience and game time. Give him your view on whether he should have come for the cross forr their goal in private. Gray's effectively been told his style of play doesn't fit in to what the manager's trying to do and he should have left the Aldred comment at 'yes, he's injured'. No need to add 'draw your own conclusions'

It's obvious John's disappointed after the result, however, he's reached a stage in his life and career where he should be a little more self aware of how he reacts and what he says publicly. Send Jimmy out to do the odd interview or give himself 10 more minutes to compose himself and work out what he will and won't say in these situations and how others may react to it - the fans, the players themselves.

I know we need a focal point for the attack and I want him to tell me what he's doing to solve it, not confirm what I can see

On the game, thought draw would be a fair result, albeit did feel they carried a bit more threat in their attacking play.

cashman 28-01-2015 08:06
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[QUOTE=Jeg Red;1131258

Sometimes singling players out for praise or criticism is helpful and motivational however in the cases of Macey, Gray and Aldred I don't think it is.

Macey has come here for experience and game time. Give him your view on whether he should have come for the cross forr their goal in private. Gray's effectively been told his style of play doesn't fit in to what the manager's trying to do and he should have left the Aldred comment at 'yes, he's injured'. No need to add 'draw your own conclusions'


On the game, thought draw would be a fair result, albeit did feel they carried a bit more threat in their attacking play.[/QUOTE]

Obvious to me how clueless our manager is, no doubt will be called a hater once again, I said a couple of weeks ago i could envisage team spirit draining away, well now the flow seems to have increased.:rolleyes:

football19 28-01-2015 08:47
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Football is a harsh profession and criticism is part and parcel of it.
For me its just a confidence issue which leads to frustration.
We all know there's a piece of the jigsaw missing at present.
Most positions you can cover,goal scorers are much more difficult !!!
Going on to Buxton,hes probably in my top three of talented players at the club
(along with Naismith and Windass).
Hes a good offensive player who sees the big picture in front of him very early (sign of a good player).
I see what Davos saying as it gets you into difficult areas when defending.
for a 22 year only hes not played many games,so has he a fitness issue ?.
If he sorts that out,curbs his natural instinct now and then,he can become a great asset.
Playing him in the three will soon build up his stamina !!!,he was blowing after 5 minutes on saturday :)

cashman 28-01-2015 08:57
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Aye criticism is part of football, but fer me a manager should keep it in house, suppose thats hard when yeh aint got the wit to do so.:rolleyes:

football19 28-01-2015 09:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1131264)
Aye criticism is part of football, but fer me a manager should keep it in house, suppose thats hard when yeh aint got the wit to do so.:rolleyes:
If they keep it in house we wont have anything to debate !!,Like or loathe him he takes no prisoners and you know were you stand with him.
He just says it as it is (not a relation of yours is he ?) :)

cashman 28-01-2015 09:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1131265)
If they keep it in house we wont have anything to debate !!,Like or loathe him he takes no prisoners and you know were you stand with him.
He just says it as it is (not a relation of yours is he ?) :)
I'm not against him making a general criticism, But singling players out should be a no-no, imho, fans will always do that on message boards, but managers should have more about em.

DAV007 28-01-2015 09:47
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Cashman Slags of politicians on the general forum for being full of spin and lies.

Now he is slagging off Coleman for being honest and truthful.


If Alfred has refused to play due to some imaginary injury to help him get a move, then that is disgusting.
Stanley pay his wages, Stanley gave him his chance and it's Stanley who have suffered during his early career while he learnt his trade
Making up a fake injury to get help get a move when your still employed by Accrington is the lowest of the low.
When the team need him most he thinks of himself.
He is our best defender, it feels as if he has deserted us.

On the plus side, Conneely looks a great prospect at CB.

football19 28-01-2015 10:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1131266)
I'm not against him making a general criticism, But singling players out should be a no-no, imho, fans will always do that on message boards, but managers should have more about em.
different styles of managers,i would sooner have a "heart on your sleeve"man anyday.
Too soft these footballers !!!!

yonmon 28-01-2015 10:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1131266)
I'm not against him making a general criticism, But singling players out should be a no-no, imho, fans will always do that on message boards, but managers should have more about em.
As I sat at the feet ( Well in the seat behind actually !) of FA19 last night, and revelled in his unfolding of all those tactical systems and nuances that my relatively untutored soccer brain
has been missing for years, An uneasy feeling came over me !...not the one that tells me that my regular visit to the Superloo in the Clubhouse is due, but one triggered by a suspicion that for some reason or other the Reds are rapidly morphing into one of those entities which the media like to describe as ' a struggling Club ' !.
I listened in to conversations which were overflowing with titbits of half-truths, inside information, and the usual harmless gossip !. This could have led me to believe that our Manager is useless as a Coach, a Motivator, and a Man and thus is ready for the walk up Livingston Road into Soccer oblivion !. Or I could have considered the notion that 'the Dressing Room' is a turmoil of discontent inhabited by players who are anxious to ply their trade elsewhere !.
Whatever was colouring my thinking, and to be honest distracting me from FA19's efforts to give me a more comprehensive insight into the game we both love, was the picture of a team
who again were second best to opponents who were to be honest no better in their play than themselves !...it was deja vu of Tranmere, and that was a poor performance !.
So where lies the answer to this dilemma which is rapidly developing into ' the losing habit'
Can't. blame a young Goalkeeper who is going to make at least one error per game. Can't really blame the dearth of Strikers in the squad,goodness knows these are few and far between, and, if gossip is to be believed,the Club couldn't afford one, if the availability came along !. Can't blame the Fans,last night's support was up to it's usual high standard !.
The worst thought last night was that a continuation of what I was witnessing could well lead to the fourth loss in a row on Saturday to a resurgent Northampton Town !.
Sorry if I appear to be a bit gloomy today, but as I have said previously, events at Accrington Stanley are giving me cause for concern.
The final insult emanating from my visit to the match last night, was when Chubbyman sidled up to me and had the bare-faced effrontery to accuse me of making a spelling-error in one of my posts!...now that really hurt !.

football19 28-01-2015 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1131270)
As I sat at the feet ( Well in the seat behind actually !) of FA19 last night, and revelled in his unfolding of all those tactical systems and nuances that my relatively untutored soccer brain
has been missing for years, An uneasy feeling came over me !...not the one that tells me that my regular visit to the Superloo in the Clubhouse is due, but one triggered by a suspicion that for some reason or other the Reds are rapidly morphing into one of those entities which the media like to describe as ' a struggling Club ' !.
I listened in to conversations which were overflowing with titbits of half-truths, inside information, and the usual harmless gossip !. This could have led me to believe that our Manager is useless as a Coach, a Motivator, and a Man and thus is ready for the walk up Livingston Road into Soccer oblivion !. Or I could have considered the notion that 'the Dressing Room' is a turmoil of discontent inhabited by players who are anxious to ply their trade elsewhere !.
Whatever was colouring my thinking, and to be honest distracting me from FA19's efforts to give me a more comprehensive insight into the game we both love, was the picture of a team
who again were second best to opponents who were to be honest no better in their play than themselves !...it was deja vu of Tranmere, and that was a poor performance !.
So where lies the answer to this dilemma which is rapidly developing into ' the losing habit'
Can't. blame a young Goalkeeper who is going to make at least one error per game. Can't really blame the dearth of Strikers in the squad,goodness knows these are few and far between, and, if gossip is to be believed,the Club couldn't afford one, if the availability came along !. Can't blame the Fans,last night's support was up to it's usual high standard !.
The worst thought last night was that a continuation of what I was witnessing could well lead to the fourth loss in a row on Saturday to a resurgent Northampton Town !.
Sorry if I appear to be a bit gloomy today, but as I have said previously, events at Accrington Stanley are giving me cause for concern.
The final insult emanating from my visit to the match last night, was when Chubbyman sidled up to me and had the bare-faced effrontery to accuse me of making a spelling-error in one of my posts!...now that really hurt !.
is that a way of saying were going through a bad patch ? :)

accybeme 28-01-2015 10:29
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I do not see any animosity towards players in JC after match interview just stating the facts goalkeeper had time to move out for the ball, windass had a decent chance that 8 out of 10 he would have put away and a tongue in cheek comment about Aldred's absence (injured?) I was more a miss as to why he put Carver on for just 4 mins I would have liked to have seen on much earlier

Redraine 28-01-2015 10:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1131272)
I do not see any animosity towards players in JC after match interview just stating the facts goalkeeper had time to move out for the ball, windass had a decent chance that 8 out of 10 he would have put away and a tongue in cheek comment about Aldred's absence (injured?) I was more a miss as to why he put Carver on for just 4 mins I would have liked to have seen on much earlier
Agreed. I didn't see much wrong with Coley's interview, or at least the 50% of it that I could hear. Dan's questions came out loud and clear, but were followed by a sort of mumbling scouse drawl. Perhaps Dan could be asked to put the microphone right under the boss's chin to help we hard of hearing strugglers?

deeayess 28-01-2015 10:42
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I can't even get on the official site as it comes up Bandwidth exceeded. What's up now?

Exile on Spencer St 28-01-2015 10:51
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[QUOTE=DAV007;1131267
If Alfred has refused to play due to some imaginary injury to help him get a move, then that is disgusting.
Stanley pay his wages, Stanley gave him his chance and it's Stanley who have suffered during his early career while he learnt his trade
Making up a fake injury to get help get a move when your still employed by Accrington is the lowest of the low.
When the team need him most he thinks of himself.
He is our best defender, it feels as if he has deserted us.[/QUOTE]

This must be one of your most pathetic offerings thus far, Davo. And God knows you offer plenty to choose from. I realise most of your posts are mere trollery, but this one reads just like a 'hater' hating.
Even if Mr.Aldred does secure a move to another club (which I for one would not begrudge him after his loyal and outstanding service to Stanley's cause) your implied criticism of him is contemptuous for a so-called fan. What ever happened to 'getting behind the club'?

lancsdave 28-01-2015 10:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1131274)
I can't even get on the official site as it comes up Bandwidth exceeded. What's up now?
Trying to get hold of the server people to sort it :)

AccyMad 28-01-2015 12:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131267)
Cashman Slags of politicians on the general forum for being full of spin and lies.

Now he is slagging off Coleman for being honest and truthful.


If Alfred has refused to play due to some imaginary injury to help him get a move, then that is disgusting.
Stanley pay his wages, Stanley gave him his chance and it's Stanley who have suffered during his early career while he learnt his trade
Making up a fake injury to get help get a move when your still employed by Accrington is the lowest of the low.
When the team need him most he thinks of himself.
He is our best defender, it feels as if he has deserted us.

On the plus side, Conneely looks a great prospect at CB.
If you're gonna slag the lad off at least have the decency to spell his name right - who the hell is Alfred???

Agree about Conneely by the way :)

cashman 28-01-2015 12:11
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Connelly had a good game i thought. looks fitter now, should be an asset.

cashman 28-01-2015 12:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1131282)
Connelly had a good game i thought. looks fitter now, should be an asset.
Mind our master tactician will probably drop him, Barry had a good game at Wimbledon.:rolleyes:

DAV007 28-01-2015 12:41
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The same master tactician who signed him in the first place?

As for Aldred.

If you read my post again you will notice a word I used at the very start

IF

And how can you defend someone who's wages the club pays potentially refusing to play hiding behind a fake injury?

IF!

cashman 28-01-2015 12:58
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I rarely read yer posts these days Davo, Just a quick glance, they aint worth me time, as i aint got a lot left.:D

deeayess 28-01-2015 14:46
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I've just listened to the interview now and, from what I could make of it, it didn't sound to bad. Yes he was saying players could have done better at the goal, the chance Josh had and going forward but I didn't take it to be in an overly critical manner.

Where I disagree with him is that we could have won it. Yes we created chances and made thr keeper save some but they were mostly from distance and were often blocked by the Bury defenders. Most of the follow up corners were either ineffective or straight to the keeper. Bury were not that good a team on the night and were probably the worst of the three we have just played but we had no goal threat in the centre. We were getting forward but often no one in the middle to press home an attack. Bury may have had fewer attacks but they were more likely to score with them than we were and there keeper had a better chance at scoring than most of our team :D .

There is no point Coley going on about we weren't complaining 4 games ago because that is in the past. Anyone watching that style of play will know how to combat it and 3 games on we are on a 3 game losing run and with the games coming up I wouldn't be surprised if the winless streak continues if we keep playing like that. It needs to change and we need someone who is a striker playing as a striker.

If the players we have don't suit Coley's system then we either get new players or change the system and I can't see any money for new players. Greece didn't become European Champions by having a system and fitting players into it the manager devised a system to suit the players he had and it worked.

I won't read any response from Dav0 since he is on my ignore list but, in case he talks his usual rhymes with fish, I do not hate Coley nor do I want him sacked and replaced by Beattie, I just want to see us winning again and I doubt we will win many the way we were playing in the last three games.

So, Dav0 spare us your usual drivel!!

cashman 28-01-2015 15:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1131294)
It needs to change and we need someone who is a striker playing as a striker.

If the players we have don't suit Coley's system then we either get new players or change the system
That sums it up in a nutshell.

football19 28-01-2015 15:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1131295)
That sums it up in a nutshell.
Easier said than done !!
We have no money,so are reliant on loanees for key positions and hes played three different systems in the last three games !!!
the basis for me now is clean sheets (sorry Redraine) and build on that,even if it makes us a little boring.
I am sure we would have got a point if Buxton hadn't blown up (great effort btw to last that long).
A crap 1-0 will do me on saturday :)

Chubbyman 28-01-2015 15:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1131283)
Mind our master tactician will probably drop him, Barry had a good game at Wimbledon.:rolleyes:
Cashy possibly as he has only just about reached something like full fitness Saturday - Tuesday might have just been to much for Barry.

cashman 28-01-2015 15:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1131296)
Easier said than done !!
We have no money,so are reliant on loanees for key positions and hes played three different systems in the last three games !!!
the basis for me now is clean sheets (sorry Redraine) and build on that,even if it makes us a little boring.
I am sure we would have got a point if Buxton hadn't blown up (great effort btw to last that long).
A crap 1-0 will do me on saturday :)
We all know we have no money,we also all know the strikers we have are not the greatest, But they "Aint" getting started, others who are NOT get that privilege.:(

cashman 28-01-2015 15:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1131298)
Cashy possibly as he has only just about reached something like full fitness Saturday - Tuesday might have just been to much for Barry.
Possibly so? But has he been injured fer long?

yonmon 28-01-2015 16:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1131296)
Easier said than done !!
We have no money,so are reliant on loanees for key positions and hes played three different systems in the last three games !!!
the basis for me now is clean sheets (sorry Redraine) and build on that,even if it makes us a little boring.
I am sure we would have got a point if Buxton hadn't blown up (great effort btw to last that long).
A crap 1-0 will do me on saturday :)
Never mind the last three games, I thought from last night's analysis that you'd assessed that he had played at least three different systems against Bury !!....I reckoned it was 6-3-1 which you dismissed and trumped with 4-3-3 then 4-4-2 then ?...and. ?.
It's really great having mates-in- the-know !!.

StanleyAccrington 28-01-2015 16:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131267)
If Alfred has refused to play due to some imaginary injury to help him get a move, then that is disgusting.

Stanley pay his wages, Stanley gave him his chance and it's Stanley who have suffered during his early career while he learnt his trade.

Making up a fake injury to get help get a move when your still employed by Accrington is the lowest of the low.

When the team need him most he thinks of himself.

He is our best defender, it feels as if he has deserted us.
Sorry, what?

I've not taken sides in the petty arguments that have gone on here in recent weeks but I really do have to say that this is one of most stupid posts I've seen.

Accrington Stanley SUFFERED because of Tom Aldred? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Just read that back and realise how ludicrous that sounds. He was by far the best player last season and arguably should have moved up a level in the summer. Given his form over the last 18 months, I'd say the club have been lucky to have Tom here for as long as they have.

The amount of times that he's picked up injuries during games and shaken it off to continue playing or to make it in time for the next game is a testament to the type of player he is and you're happy to slag him off because you've bought into Coley's post-match comments about him.

Personally, I think there's got to be more to it than meets the eye. Everyone on here would acknowledge that it takes more than a minor knock to stop Aldred from pulling on the Red shirt and playing for ASFC.

If he is to leave then I wish him the best of luck. The club gave him a chance after leaving Colchester and he most certainly took it with both hands - or feet, in this instance and the club have reaped the rewards with some outstanding performances from him. He deserves to play at a higher level and at least him leaving now will bring some money into the club.

The only thing I agree with you on is that he's Stanley's best defender. That much, for me, is unquestionable.

Redraine 28-01-2015 17:11
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The word "on the street" last night was that Coley had allegedly criticised Tom after Wimbledon for his recent performances and assured him he would be dropped for last night's game. That might explain things, but I have no idea how true it is.

DAV007 28-01-2015 17:11
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so only frankmoody and chubbyman thought colemans interview was awful.

how interesting.

only chubbyman and frankmoody thought we where awful yesterday.

how interesting.

Chubbyman 28-01-2015 17:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131311)
so only frankmoody and chubbyman thought colemans interview was awful.

how interesting.

only chubbyman and frankmoody thought we where awful yesterday.

how interesting.

You've missed we also thought you were bloody awful

pud 28-01-2015 17:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131242)
Why did Flitcroft sub Jones and Hope?
I though Jones kept on catching our left back out in the first half and Hope looks just the kind of striker who would fit our system perfectly.

Cameron could have had a hatrick tonight.
Just missed out on sliding in on a free kick
Stinging Header over the bar from a corner
scored in the 2nd half

He is one of the best league 2 CB I have seen, He has pace and is good in the air. Suprised he is playing at this level.
Cam has been a revelation this season but he was dire last season. He has been built up by flickers and he has responded. As for Jones he has all the running in the world but his final ball lets him down so much. He did put it on a plate for Tutte who skied it from 8 yrds (i think it still hasn't bounced yet!)

Adams came on for Jones and had one cleared off the line and could have got on the end of a cross but missed it and slid in to the post.

Proccy did ok tonight

I am glad coley left it really late before bringing Carver on I think he could well have caused us problems!

All the best in the rest of the season. I always keep an eye out for Stanleys scores not least as I live in Accy!

deeayess 28-01-2015 17:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StanleyAccrington (Post 1131308)
Sorry, what?

I've not taken sides in the petty arguments that have gone on here in recent weeks but I really do have to say that this is one of most stupid posts I've seen.

Accrington Stanley SUFFERED because of Tom Aldred? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Just read that back and realise how ludicrous that sounds. He was by far the best player last season and arguably should have moved up a level in the summer. Given his form over the last 18 months, I'd say the club have been lucky to have Tom here for as long as they have.

The amount of times that he's picked up injuries during games and shaken it off to continue playing or to make it in time for the next game is a testament to the type of player he is and you're happy to slag him off because you've bought into Coley's post-match comments about him.

Personally, I think there's got to be more to it than meets the eye. Everyone on here would acknowledge that it takes more than a minor knock to stop Aldred from pulling on the Red shirt and playing for ASFC.

If he is to leave then I wish him the best of luck. The club gave him a chance after leaving Colchester and he most certainly took it with both hands - or feet, in this instance and the club have reaped the rewards with some outstanding performances from him. He deserves to play at a higher level and at least him leaving now will bring some money into the club.

The only thing I agree with you on is that he's Stanley's best defender. That much, for me, is unquestionable.
Everyone has their tipping point with Dav0. For me it was after Tranmere which we lost because Coley was stuck with Beattie's players. Adding him to the ignore list helps but some severe moderation of the rubbish would be more effective.

cashman 28-01-2015 17:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StanleyAccrington (Post 1131308)
Sorry, what?

I've not taken sides in the petty arguments that have gone on here in recent weeks but I really do have to say that this is one of most stupid posts I've seen.

Accrington Stanley SUFFERED because of Tom Aldred? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Just read that back and realise how ludicrous that sounds. He was by far the best player last season and arguably should have moved up a level in the summer. Given his form over the last 18 months, I'd say the club have been lucky to have Tom here for as long as they have.

The amount of times that he's picked up injuries during games and shaken it off to continue playing or to make it in time for the next game is a testament to the type of player he is and you're happy to slag him off because you've bought into Coley's post-match comments about him.

Personally, I think there's got to be more to it than meets the eye. Everyone on here would acknowledge that it takes more than a minor knock to stop Aldred from pulling on the Red shirt and playing for ASFC.
.
Its only one of the most stupid posts yeh have seen, due to the fact yeh aint been on here that long, Davos been consistent fer a few years now.:D

football19 28-01-2015 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1131307)
Never mind the last three games, I thought from last night's analysis that you'd assessed that he had played at least three different systems against Bury !!....I reckoned it was 6-3-1 which you dismissed and trumped with 4-3-3 then 4-4-2 then ?...and. ?.
It's really great having mates-in- the-know !!.
At one point in the second half,it seemed both teams went man for man !!!,and ended up 4-2-4 !
Think the widemen from both teams were knackered and couldn't track back which made for a end to end game for a time !!!
Don't think that was in the script:)

yonmon 28-01-2015 18:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1131324)
At one point in the second half,it seemed both teams went man for man !!!,and ended up 4-2-4 !
Think the widemen from both teams were knackered and couldn't track back which made for a end to end game for a time !!!
Don't think that was in the script:)
Which script would that be then ??..... Incidentally, I've just watched Brendan Rogers stating that Liverpool have rediscovered their identity !....have our Reds lost a little of theirs do you think ??.

mab 28-01-2015 18:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1131310)
The word "on the street" last night was that Coley had allegedly criticised Tom after Wimbledon for his recent performances and assured him he would be dropped for last night's game. That might explain things, but I have no idea how true it is.
Thats what i was told last night as well but with the Tranmere game thrown in as well :(

StanleyAccrington 28-01-2015 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 1131337)
Thats what i was told last night as well but with the Tranmere game thrown in as well :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1131310)
The word "on the street" last night was that Coley had allegedly criticised Tom after Wimbledon for his recent performances and assured him he would be dropped for last night's game. That might explain things, but I have no idea how true it is.
Maybe it would help if the players around him were played in their proper positions.

Winnard being squeezed into the side in any full-back role because he's one of Coley's favourites is damaging the side and meant that Buxton had to play out of position himself at left-back, though he had a solid game in fairness to him.

Conneely looked much better as a central defender than he did as a left back comparing his performance last night with the one against Tranmere.

Nevertheless, there were two people sat on the bench who could have started in the full-back roles and made things a lot easier for the defence - Nicky Hunt and Michael Liddle.

But what do we know, we're not the ones with the coaching badges after all... :rolleyes:

Chubbyman 28-01-2015 19:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StanleyAccrington (Post 1131338)
Maybe it would help if the players around him were played in their proper positions.

Winnard being squeezed into the side in any full-back role because he's one of Coley's favourites is damaging the side and meant that Buxton had to play out of position himself at left-back, though he had a solid game in fairness to him.

Conneely looked much better as a central defender than he did as a left back comparing his performance last night with the one against Tranmere.

Nevertheless, there were two people sat on the bench who could have started in the full-back roles and made things a lot easier for the defence - Nicky Hunt and Michael Liddle.

But what do we know, we're not the ones with the coaching badges after all... :rolleyes:


Thank God I haven't any coaching badges,imagine being like Super Coach DAVO !!!

st06nc2 28-01-2015 21:48
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We are getting better and closer to a clean sheet
Tranmere conceded 3
Wimbledon conceded 2
Bury conceded 1
Maybe Saturday will be our day

deeayess 28-01-2015 22:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1131362)
We are getting better and closer to a clean sheet
Tranmere conceded 3
Wimbledon conceded 2
Bury conceded 1
Maybe Saturday will be our day
Following that pattern, with our luck, game off 0 conceded :D

mab 28-01-2015 22:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1131362)
We are getting better and closer to a clean sheet
Tranmere conceded 3
Wimbledon conceded 2
Bury conceded 1
Maybe Saturday will be our day
I hope your right st06nc2!! ,Northampton have a good record at our place and on a winning spree with 3 wins on the bounce and 1pt more than us but we do have agame in hand. We'll have to be on top of our game saturday ☺

DAV007 28-01-2015 22:11
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Until there recent spate of wins, Northampton fans where calling for their manager to be sacked after an awful run of results

I dont think they are a good team, we can certainly beat them.

Chubbyman 29-01-2015 01:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131366)
Until there recent spate of wins, Northampton fans where calling for their manager to be sacked after an awful run of results

I dont think they are a good team, we can certainly beat them.

And if we lose will you be calling for the managers head?

football19 29-01-2015 04:05
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by StanleyAccrington (Post 1131338)
Maybe it would help if the players around him were played in their proper positions.

Winnard being squeezed into the side in any full-back role because he's one of Coley's favourites is damaging the side and meant that Buxton had to play out of position himself at left-back, though he had a solid game in fairness to him.

Conneely looked much better as a central defender than he did as a left back comparing his performance last night with the one against Tranmere.

Nevertheless, there were two people sat on the bench who could have started in the full-back roles and made things a lot easier for the defence - Nicky Hunt and Michael Liddle.

But what do we know, we're not the ones with the coaching badges after all... :rolleyes:
Interesting comments Stanley,
I presume Dean was also Cookys,Leams and Beatties favourite as well !, very naive comment.
You underestimate Coley,indeed,he was asked to do a job on their speedster,Danny Mayor(remember,the lad who rinsed Bucco at their place)
How do you think he played ?,can't recall him doing much,therefore he did the job asked of him.
Didn't lids turn over possession which led to the free kick/goal ?
Toms done well for Acci,but how many games did we win last season when he was in the team and dean wasn't alongside him ?
Everyone has their favourites,I accept that,but believe me,Coley is only interested in you doing a job for him,do it,you in,don't,and your out !!! Simple.

DAV007 29-01-2015 07:21
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1131370)
And if we lose will you be calling for the managers head?
NO.
It would be 4 games without a win, not Beatties 12 without a win.
There is lots of promise in the team, we will win on Saturday.

smudgie 29-01-2015 08:54
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Loving the fact, I can't read half of this thread :D

.............

Fallen out with Aldred & Carver for petty reasons, criticizes a rookie keeper and young midfielder when we have no other better alternatives.

Absolute clown, no doubt he has lost the dressing room whatsoever.

Relegation battle is not out of the question by any stretch of the imagination unfortunately.

smudgie 29-01-2015 08:56
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Oh and for those who are having a pop at Aldred. Hang your head's in shame.

The lad has been simply immense since we signed him and I sincerely hope IF he was to leave he finds a better club which I have no doubt he will whatsoever.

Chubbyman 29-01-2015 09:03
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1131381)
Loving the fact, I can't read half of this thread :D

.............

Fallen out with Aldred & Carver for petty reasons, criticizes a rookie keeper and young midfielder when we have no other better alternatives.

Absolute clown, no doubt he has lost the dressing room whatsoever.

Relegation battle is not out of the question by any stretch of the imagination unfortunately.
and Hunt and Windass and he doesn't even like himself.

choirboy 29-01-2015 09:49
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Oh Dear,
Lots of 'Owd Cobblers' being bandied about taking the original "Bury Match Thread" into some dodgy areas.:(
Perhaps a new thread titled "Coley The Manager..... What do you think?" should have been posted.:idunno:
So........talking of 'Cobblers'
.....Let's just get behind our team......whoever Coley and Jimmy select and absolutely
stuff "The Cobblers" on Saturday!!!:mosher:
COME ON YOU REDS:theband:
ON STANLEY ON:wave8:

yonmon 29-01-2015 10:01
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1131362)
We are getting better and closer to a clean sheet
Tranmere conceded 3
Wimbledon conceded 2
Bury conceded 1
Maybe Saturday will be our day
Then a 0-0 Draw is definitely one for the Fixed-odds Coupon !!.

yerself 29-01-2015 10:38
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Quote:
Fallen out with Aldred & Carver for petty reasons, criticizes a rookie keeper and young midfielder when we have no other better alternatives.

Absolute clown, no doubt he has lost the dressing room whatsoever.
You want to watch yourself criticising the 'football genius', he'll set his big brother on you. A few years ago I questioned his substitution policy and Coley 1957/Coley57 came on and asked what I knew about football (which admittedly isn't very much). Makes you wonder if DAV007's a relative!

mab 29-01-2015 11:23
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1131379)
NO.
It would be 4 games without a win, not Beatties 12 without a win.
There is lots of promise in the team, we will win on Saturday.
Middlesbrough 1 - 2 Accrington Stanley ;):)

deeayess 29-01-2015 12:30
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 1131396)
Middlesbrough 1 - 2 Accrington Stanley ;):)
Doesn't count, read his posts!!!, hater, etc :D

Dav0stats only show Coley good, rest of world bad. :D

StanleyAccrington 29-01-2015 12:35
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1131371)
Interesting comments Stanley,
I presume Dean was also Cookys,Leams and Beatties favourite as well !, very naive comment.
You underestimate Coley,indeed,he was asked to do a job on their speedster,Danny Mayor(remember,the lad who rinsed Bucco at their place)
How do you think he played ?,can't recall him doing much,therefore he did the job asked of him.
Didn't lids turn over possession which led to the free kick/goal ?
Toms done well for Acci,but how many games did we win last season when he was in the team and dean wasn't alongside him ?
Everyone has their favourites,I accept that,but believe me,Coley is only interested in you doing a job for him,do it,you in,don't,and your out !!! Simple.
Is it really a naïve comment? Dean Winnard is not a right back, he's a central defender. Adam Buxton, however, is a right back. Nicky Hunt, however, is a right back. Surely those two would be better options in that position rather than trying to put a square peg into a round hole and playing jobs for the boys?

I remember Winnard almost having to rip the shirt off Mayor's back to stop him from running off into the distance at one stage in the first half and struggling to cope with Mayor all night.

Maybe it was Lidds who turned over possession for the free-kick (I can't remember and it's not shown on the highlights) but if the 6 foot 7 goalkeeper comes to claim the ball - as he should - then it wouldn't be an issue.

football19 29-01-2015 14:24
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by StanleyAccrington (Post 1131402)
Is it really a naïve comment? Dean Winnard is not a right back, he's a central defender. Adam Buxton, however, is a right back. Nicky Hunt, however, is a right back. Surely those two would be better options in that position rather than trying to put a square peg into a round hole and playing jobs for the boys?

I remember Winnard almost having to rip the shirt off Mayor's back to stop him from running off into the distance at one stage in the first half and struggling to cope with Mayor all night.

Maybe it was Lidds who turned over possession for the free-kick (I can't remember and it's not shown on the highlights) but if the 6 foot 7 goalkeeper comes to claim the ball - as he should - then it wouldn't be an issue.
I think your a footballing man Stanley and your posts are well worth reading.
Just a quick question (not being arrogant),but how long have you watched Stanley for?.
The reason is deans played 250 games,100+ at right back,70+ at left back and the remainder at centre back(under 4 managers)
He was right back (played nearly ever game) in our play off season.
To say round peg/square hole is very disrespectful.
I admit I prefer him as a sweeper,but that's coleys decision
He's an out and out defender,who can play anywhere across the back line.
Offensively,there's better players,defensively no chance.
He's by far the quickest defender on the books,and that's the reason he gets nominated to pick up the quick men (he and bucko swapped 5 mins from kick off because they were worried about mayor)
Back to the goal,don't blame lids or rob this time as he took one for the team.
The ball was cleared and all the defenders moved out but proccy stayed in,playing them onside.
The keeper should come,no problem,so he gets a tick and proccy half a tick as they would have been offside anyway.

Redraine 29-01-2015 14:54
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by StanleyAccrington (Post 1131402)
Is it really a naïve comment? Dean Winnard is not a right back, he's a central defender. Adam Buxton, however, is a right back. Nicky Hunt, however, is a right back. Surely those two would be better options in that position rather than trying to put a square peg into a round hole and playing jobs for the boys?

I remember Winnard almost having to rip the shirt off Mayor's back to stop him from running off into the distance at one stage in the first half and struggling to cope with Mayor all night.

Maybe it was Lidds who turned over possession for the free-kick (I can't remember and it's not shown on the highlights) but if the 6 foot 7 goalkeeper comes to claim the ball - as he should - then it wouldn't be an issue.
I'm afraid you won't win on this topic,Stanley. Footy19 has a thousand stats but a VERY selective memory!

Chubbyman 29-01-2015 15:25
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1131410)
I'm afraid you won't win on this topic,Stanley. Footy19 has a thousand stats but a VERY selective memory!
I think the medical term is Colyiatus.....

st06nc2 29-01-2015 15:30
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1131391)
Then a 0-0 Draw is definitely one for the Fixed-odds Coupon !!.
One points better than none

mab 29-01-2015 16:24
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1131401)
Doesn't count, read his posts!!!, hater, etc :D

Dav0stats only show Coley good, rest of world bad. :D
Doesn't say just league games on the post:p

deeayess 29-01-2015 16:37
Re: Bury Match Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 1131427)
Doesn't say just league games on the post:p
Obviously you don't understand Dav0speak :D. Just because he doesn't say it doesn't mean you can imply it :p.

Things work different in Dav0world!!!


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