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can't see anybody has started a match thread so here goes
Portsmouth have missing defenders C/b big Ben sent off with a second Yellow in the 94 min. of their last match.
a guess at the Stanley starting line up
Scott DAVIES Michael LIDDLE
Rob ATKINSON
Matt CROOKS
Dean WINNARD
Andrew PROCTER
Luke JOYCE
Josh WINDASS
Anthony BARRY
Piero MINGOIA
Terry GORNELL
and maybe an appearance from the promising Burnley loanee Gilcrest

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Well played Stanley, arguably best display of season imho, The sending off was justified in my book, and as stanley began to tire Pompey put 3 subs on and went for the win, even though we had tiring legs the messiah refused to use any, ridiculous to all around us,:eek:well done the lads for hanging on, but come on you Coley lovers, How the hell is that good management?

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A great battling performance with 10men in the second half in the end after a first half in which I thought we were very unlucky not to have had at least 3 goals. Like Cashy I can't understand why Coley made no subs. Terry, for me, had been ineffective, unable to win any ball against their defenders, either in the air or on the ground. Surely it would have been worth giving the new lad a run for half an hour?

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I would have subbed both gornell and windows and brought on New lad from Burnley and shay. I think coley has changed to a system that has worked ok against some decent sides of late. Mingoia has been particularly effective as a wingback. Today was a entertaining game in a loud (and fiery after sending off) atmosphere. A point was fair to each team I feel.

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Sorry windows was meant to be windass!

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What a display Stanley gave today , absolutely brill!!, well done lads. Where do we get the refs for these games ? work experience ? Portsmouth no 8 got away with everything today , he did his best to push over Pierro , then threw himself to the ground and was given a free kick , what a cheat.

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Again i thought young crooks, looks like making a decent player in his proper position. I can understand why this ref has had very few games this season greeny, hes learning to be a clown.

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We're blest with CRAP officals as usual.never a sending off Barry got the ball and couldn't help but get there player a yellow at most.Good match between two good sides spoiled by the officals again..

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It looked like a sending off from my viewpoint also.
In the past the football genius has criticised the crowd for questioning his tactics and team selections on the basis that they are not qualified coaches, he even went as far as hurling foul-mouthed abuse at a member of the crowd. Could I be so bold as to ask which (if any) refereeing qualifications he holds to justify his constant haranguing and berating of match officials? The man is an embarrassment to the club. What does he think he's going to achieve with this behaviour?

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We have had some poor officials lately but those today took it to another level.
Onto the game,we really should have been out of site as we created numerous clear cut chances,and some were really poor finishing.
Nice strike for good from windass,but I was right behind it and their keeper will have nightmares.
Speaking of keepers,ours started very hesitantly not coming for balls etc.. And the goal will be put against him as he came and missed the punch.
He could well have crumbled but retained some composure,but was reluctant to dominate his area and Crookes bailed him out a few times.
Agree about the subs,but it paid off and we got a deserved point.
The lads (particularly in midfield) run themselves to a standstill,even terry and windass covered a lot of ground.
Take a point,but on other occasions we will get punished for not converting our chances.

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Thought Windass was very good again, but in my view he needs to learn to chase the keeper down, he missed a good few opportunitys today to do so, those are instances were goals can be snaffled in my eyes.

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I was 10 yards from the incident,and it wasn't a red card,couldn't believe how fast he produced the card and I don't think their players were really expecting it.
There was no argy bargy which tends to follow a bad tackle.
Regarding coley,you obviously have not followed fergies tactics over the years !!,
If your not getting your share of decisions,get into the fourth officials ear (who's miked up to the ref),you will be surprised how the refs crumble and eventually give you the 50/50s,it's wrong,but it happens

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Fair enough football19, it looked really bad from far side of the clayton end,but accept yer vantage point has a much clearer view.:)

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Agreed, Cashy. Shearer never gave up on those situations and profited from it on lots of occasions.

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On another occasion one of their lads left his foot in on dean and wasn't even booked !!
Don't mind if the ref is poor as long as he's consistent !!!

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good fighting display from the team but what a pity J.C. had super-glued the subs to the bench

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Unbelievable! He seems to deliberately invite stick from the fans.

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We should have won today but after the sending off we did well to hang for a draw. We could have done with 'fresh' legs towards the end but all of our lads ran their hearts out. Procky had a very busy game and Pierro was our main threat again. Super free kick from Josh right in front of the Clayton End. Matt Crooks played well in the second half and he seems to be warming to his new position.:alright:
THE REF WAS TOTALLY INEPT!:dummy2::pain30:
I also thought that the lads and lasses in the Clayton End were excellent today.:theband:
Another point closer to the safety of 50+ points!
ON STANLEY ON:thepint::wave8::signbeer:

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Went to the game today with my son who is in the academy. And believe me some good players in there.
For what it's worth I though Accy shaded the first half. I was impressed with Gornell up front who worked really hard and troubled the Pompey back 3. Also thought crooks did well at the back apart from 1 mistake in 2nd half.
Accy played the better football today - and the atmosphere was great. Good luck for rest of season.

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If your going to make things up and look for any excuse to hate Coleman, at least think of something good.

The standard of referees this season has been the worst in memory, he is well within his rights to have ago at them when they are so inept.

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Ref had a shocker. Never a sending off.

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If only they had league placings for refs. By the way, did I read on the Fishy site before the game that the ref had not issued any red cards before today. Perhaps he has to up his figures.

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Yeh did read that on fishy Exile, think hed only had 4 games or 6, can't recall which, though that aint surprising cos he was shocking.:eek:

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..of course I've never seen him play, but your above opinion on is spot on for any striker (or nearest player to the ball). Its the first
thing I tell the forwards about in the kids teams unfortunate enough to have me as a coach..Interestingly , when Jonathan Gould, (now at WBA as GK coach) was coaching the local side here, his strikers retreated back to the halfway line the mo the ball was heading , with a bias, the oppo GKs way. Put the ****** under pressure. Every now and then they will cock up.

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Watched the sending off and have changed my mind,it was a sending off as his foot was off the floor.
The ref got it right and had a great view,pity about many of the other decisions.
That's why I rarely criticise them as I was close to the tackle and got it wrong :)

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Here you go, about 1hr 11mins in. Players should wear proper heavy duty boots and shinpads like we did in the good old 50's!

BBC iPlayer - The Football League Show - 2014/2015: 07/03/2015

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Spot on red card as I thought on the ground credit must go to John and Jimmy for getting our players determination and attitude first class if we had put the chances away in that 15 min spell first half we would have been out of sight 10 or 11 men if we can keep nucleus of this squad and a couple of cute JC signings could be interesting next season well done Reds against a so called big team ps great atmosphere by both sets of fans yesterday hope 1 or 2 neutrals come back for the York game.

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I had a clear view of the red card as did the linesman it was one of those tackles that could be given either way, The red did seem harsh but depending on the angle the ref made a call. The linesman did not see it the same way and could have been more helpful all round. It was a much improved performance although panicky at times. We missed the cool head of Nicky hunt, and the presence of Adam Buxton. we should have made at least two subs for the last 20 mins, Proctor was struggling badly as was gornal. Josh took his goal well but on other occassions showed a little inexperience. Our long passing is terrible, we rarely hit the target. when we get into a multiple heading situation we inevitably lose as we must be the shortest team in the division. we should stick to playing on the floor, we are at our best when attacking. Piero was fabulous and led by example. Yet we send our best striker out on loan to Northampton and signed a youngster from Burnley and then didn't play him?????? The goalkeeper seemed very nervous and his distribution was poor and slow at times. Again I will state I not a coleman hater or lover but his judgement is questionable to date. I don't know what his restraints are with players, finance etc. But I do know he is a touch tactically naive.
I do think the club or Manager need to make a statement on the James Gray situation as it seem to have caused a lot of consternation amongst supporters. But it was good game all round just spoiled by poor quality officials.

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My guess is not wanting to upset the status quo when everybody is defending so well? Who do you take off when everybody is putting such a shift in? It's a gamble..like making subs on a corner. Four points taken from Pompey...he clearly hasn't a clue. ;) :)

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Nor have you Alvin, if yeh couldn't see some tired players out yon in last 15/20 mins:rolleyes:

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totally agree cashman
the team on the pitch played their hearts out but they were plainly very tired, being down to ten men fresh legs were needed, we were very lucky to survive the Pompy onslaught (team rating 10 out of 10) manager rating no comment

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Substitutions are always going to be difficult,against Shrewsbury we made them and lost.
Fresh legs don't always work.
The only one I would have contemplated would have been lids for Kai,as they got a bit of joy down that channel once they stretched the game.
Thought piero was excellent again and really is wired in to how to play wingback,unbelievable fitness and reading of a game

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I thought the ref had a decent game, much better officials now than 30 years ago.

Decent point too, shame about the corner but the keeper had already made 3 good saves before the Stanley goal.

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And who coaches the players? Who works on organisation and defensive drills and marking positions etc.

Getting silly now. If we lose its Coleys fault. If we win or draw its "despite" him...almost cost them etc. But at the same time they aren't playing for him. How does that work? If we'd have subbed and conceded it would be "why did he change it when we were holding on so well".

We also have constant criticism of "hoofball" at the same time as were apparently "trying to walk the ball into the net". Which is is?

Slate all you want...but a tiny bit of credit where it's due. What about the transformation of Windass under JC's stewardship. Good luck I suppose rather than giving him a run of games denied by his predecessor?

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Rob Lewis did NOT have a good game yesterday Chewbacca, although his reading and punishment of Anthony Barry's red-card challenge was accurate !.
Here is another official who is in the twilight of his refereeing career and really needs to be put out to grass !. Still if the FA keep giving him appointments for which I am sure he pockets a moderate fee, then I expect that he'll struggle on for as long as he can !.
One thing he can be disappointed in was the quality, or lack of it ?, of his Main Stand side
Assistant who missed so many infringements during the match. He could not have been a bona fide official I'm sure so poor was his contribution to the control of the game !.
But whether at home or away The Reds seem to have to put up with at least one of the Refereeing quartet who either makes or fails to make THAT decision which affects the result of the game....and costs them a point at least !. This happened once again yesterday !.

But well done the Reds for a sterling defensive effort against a decent Pompey team and against the odds. What is to be admired even more is the level of fitness of our players which allows them to make such telling performances.

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Please highlight were anyones said they aren't playing fer coleman Alvin?:confused: That should be easy, given yer not a numpty, The complaint is simple, there were tired legs out yon yesterday, and not replaced, That shouldn't be beyond yeh to grasp surely?:rolleyes:

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Alvin, there were 70 teams in action in England yesterday from the Premier league, FA Cup and the football league. 69 teams made substitutions, the majority subbing 3 players. One team made no subs at all. Does that not seem a little strange to you? Or were none at all of the others "holding on so well" as you put it? Perhaps you will cast me as one of Davo's Coley haters for merely pointing out these facts!

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I've just watched the extended highlights from yesterday and it wasn't just gallant defending that got the point it was poor finishing and a bit of luck as well.

Portsmouth missed a very good chance in the last 15 minutes from a close range header which went passed the post then hit the crossbar near the end.

I was surprised by how many decent chances they had in the first half hitting the bar and having two goal bound efforts beating the keeper and being cleared.

The sending off looked justified with studs being up and catching the portsmouth player quite high. And Piero was lucky not to get booked for that dive that Gray would have been proud of :D .

In the end it is a good point won with ten men. Perhaps a sub up front such as McCarten may have gave us a chance of a breakaway or forced them to leave men back, who knows, but in the end it is one game closer to safety and most of the other games went our way at the bottom.

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Well i wasn't aware of that fact,cheers Redraine. So therefore "All" the football league managers felt it was a good idea to use subs, bar ours.:eek: That says it all.:rolleyes:

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Chubbyman announced to the world that he had lost the dressing room.

:):):D:D

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Dear the genius that is Redraine and his trusty mate Cashman,
have yoy checked all 69 other teams?
And all those teams who played in Scotland and Wales?

As I have already found 1 team that didnt make any subs.

Is it against the law not to make subs?

When are you going to put your genius into action and manage a league 2 club?

Answers on a postcard :):):D:D

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I dont know Redraine Dav, like you i only met him once years back. No its not against the law, But yer down to 10 men n the lads are tiring visibly its commonsense, perhaps that will hit you one day?:D

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We where down to 10 men, we hung on for a draw.

It would seem to me the manager made the right call unless you where expecting us to go on and win the game?

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Well as you asked ..... and please do remember I try to be neutral regarding your endless inter-factional arguments :D

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As you know DAV I can back the statement up to the hilt....and some

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Having watched the highlights, I too think Barry's tackle was a red card. But for the remainder of the match, it was like watching all in wrestling without any punishment given by the match official. How Portsmouth ended the match with 11 on the field I do not know. Great defending in the last 30 minutes, but for my penny's worth, I thought Stanley were even better when down to 10, so much so, I thought we might go on and win the match. I do understand where folks are coming from with the no substitutions, a strange decision to my mind, I personally would have brought on Liddle, Bruna and the new lad from Burnley to freshen up the team, however, our esteemed manager thought better of it, who am I to criticise? Onwards and upwards for the next match.

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Me, Genius Davo? Not really, I just stated the facts for every English team as printed in the Sunday Times results. Nice compliment anyway thanks! So where on earth did you find a team outside England that didn't make any subs? Faroe Islands? Quatar? Liechtenstein? I would love to know of any other manager with the same revolutionary plan as Coley.

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Another good interview from Coley. From my position on the Clayton End I couldn't really call the Piero penalty shout but it looked a clear foul as Coley says. Did he say the ref admitted there was contact, in which case it should have been given? He was speaking a bit low again for me!

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Not saying Coley was right or wrong to not use any substitutes but just out of curiosity, for the people saying he should have changed things, who would you have taken off and put on in place of?

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Portsmouth after match interview, great to see J C focusing on our teams performance & the match official and resisting from having a pop at the fans

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Well Baldy Gornell n Proccy looked real knackered so theres 2 fer starters.:)

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Well, Davo, what's the answer?

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The Total Silence is Your Answer !!!

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the only other team not to use a Sub in the Eng. Scots & welsh Football Leagues on 7th march 2015 was Brechin City scots L1
I wonder if there has ever been another team that have played the last 40 mins with 10 men and not used a sub though

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Amazing given that Dav is always quoting facts.:D

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from what i have seen over the years,coleys teams are always as fit if not fitter than the opposition.
one of the reasons is he likes his teams to play an high line and press the ball.
On saturday some players put a real shift in,and although tiring,we retained our shape well,which is probably why he was reluctant to change it.
Think we should be concentrating on players performances rather than subs.
Thought Rob has come through a sticky patch and is now back on form and Crookes positional play is getting better with each game (got a great touch for a big lad).
Windass for me is a attacking right sided player but wont dislodge Pierro !!,so its a learning curve for him,and three goals suggests hes listening :)

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Ohh, I get it now, Coleman's allowed to mouth off at anyone and everyone, but woe betide anyone who should criticise your god.

By the way, I agree about the standard of refereeing but they're bad for every team not just Stanley. You've heard the old saying 'What goes around comes around'?

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The subs is one thing that could have cost us on Sat, so its worth talking about, very fortunate it didn't, but you my friend always try to divert away from Coleman.:rolleyes:

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I think it was a Jamaican Transvestite XI :D

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Understandable, that one, as they "dominated the match from start to finish" according to their website.

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Well it seems to me, looking at the score, that though many may have thought it an unusual decision, it eventually proved to be the right one.

Or does the result not matter any more?

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Of course, and it was a great performance, but fresh legs up front might just have brought a win. Greedy, moi?

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I still struggle to get my head around this!, the majority of the posts are about what may have happened,not what did happen.
Hardly any mention of all the sitters missed which cost us two points !!.
Now ive been accused of deflecting criticism of Coley who ive never met or ever spoke too !!.
Just for the record me and my lad never talk football as hes a pro and its his job and not mine.
it may not come across but i try to work out why decisions are made and formations/shape adopted,but its only my opinion as i am not pro or anti Coleman,which i find a little boring to be honest.
The bloke knows far more about football than i do,so i give him respect for the thinks ive seen him achieve at Accrington.
I have always wondered if the people who slate him actually know him?,

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We all,or almost all, already know what did happen as we were there, and all have expressed our admiration for a great performance. The "sitters" were not sitters at all in my opinion. They were either players busting a gut at full stretch (Windass and Naismith) or snap shots being blocked(Windass again) or Proccy meeting a difficult volley coming to him at speed as he bore down on goal. None of them in the same league as Crooks's famous sitters. I thought he had a very good game at CB, by the way, which seems to be his natural position.
Nothing wrong in talking about a penalty which may have happened. After all, the boss himself thought it should have been given, and who am I to contradict him?

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That's what I like to read Redraine,views from different parts of the ground.
Said before you seen a different perspective from behind the goal as you do from the side.
You would be much closer to the goal action,were I had a good veiw of the penalty claim,in which there was minimal contact,but by the letter of the law it was a pen !!