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deeayess 11-02-2016 21:37

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It also appears that season 14/15 did not meantion disabled people as a concession 2014/15 Season Ticket Prices ? Accrington Stanley FC

monkey hanger 12-02-2016 08:15

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the main question is do disabled, not the wheelchair bound ones, get a concession or not. if they get one and it does not say disabled does it really matter. its the money that matters. going back to wheelchair bound fans I have a disabled step son and back in my groundhopping days he used to come with me. if I remember correctly all clubs had the same pricing structure free for him and full price for me as a carer and this was all divisions below the greedy league.

Chrisr 12-02-2016 10:21

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Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1160854)
It also appears that season 14/15 did not meantion disabled people as a concession 2014/15 Season Ticket Prices ? Accrington Stanley FC

It does in the charter, please read it.

maccawozzagod 12-02-2016 16:12

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Originally Posted by Chrisr (Post 1160841)
Macca If that is how you really feel towards people with disability? This shows an ignorance of peoples conditions.


I don't really understand your question Chris. I don't 'feel' one way or another towards a disabled person, they are just another person. I've plainly said that some cases are different. The problem is with classification. You can't really start to differentiate between disabilities, just like you can't start to differentiate between poverty and affluence. It's a tricky minefield once you start to knuckle down into it.

One problem I have always had with football ground pricing structures is that there are too many different bandings. It should be adult and concession, 2 prices, done, dusted. Let disabled or anything else be covered in the customer charter and if you cant find that you ring and they can take each case on its own merit :)

Chrisr 12-02-2016 17:56

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1160924)
I don't really understand your question Chris. I don't 'feel' one way or another towards a disabled person, they are just another person. I've plainly said that some cases are different. The problem is with classification. You can't really start to differentiate between disabilities, just like you can't start to differentiate between poverty and affluence. It's a tricky minefield once you start to knuckle down into it.

One problem I have always had with football ground pricing structures is that there are too many different bandings. It should be adult and concession, 2 prices, done, dusted. Let disabled or anything else be covered in the customer charter and if you cant find that you ring and they can take each case on its own merit :)

Macca have a look at the supporters charter on the club website, it is under club info,supporters charter. Page 6 it is clear, and unambiguous.

deeayess 12-02-2016 19:12

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Originally Posted by Chrisr (Post 1160940)
Macca have a look at the supporters charter on the club website, it is under club info,supporters charter. Page 6 it is clear, and unambiguous.

Again I am not taking sides but it could be argued by the club that the charter does not apply to season tickets but rather to individual match tickets. Furthermore it could also argue that this was superseded by the ticket price announcement for the new prices from 1/1/2016. This changes the admission price to full price for a disabled person and a PA free instead of the price under the charter of a concession price and a student price for the PA which is more expensive. It is a good move for disabled people with a PA but not for those who manage on their own.

It may have helped if the club had explained this if it is the case. It may even be the case that they didn't even know about the charter because I have to admit that I didn't and that could be why it is still there despite the price changes.

Good luck with your attempts though.

cashman 12-02-2016 19:54

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Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1160950)
Again I am not taking sides but it could be argued by the club that the charter does not apply to season tickets but rather to individual match tickets. Furthermore it could also argue that this was superseded by the ticket price announcement for the new prices from 1/1/2016. This changes the admission price to full price for a disabled person and a PA free instead of the price under the charter of a concession price and a student price for the PA which is more expensive. It is a good move for disabled people with a PA but not for those who manage on their own.

It may have helped if the club had explained this if it is the case. It may even be the case that they didn't even know about the charter because I have to admit that I didn't and that could be why it is still there despite the price changes.

Good luck with your attempts though.

Aye but the new M.D. with an F.A. background should surely?:confused:

deeayess 12-02-2016 20:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1160958)
Aye but the new M.D. with an F.A. background should surely?:confused:

You would expect so but over the years I have learned that what you would expect isn't always the case.

Chrisr 12-02-2016 20:22

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Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1160950)
Again I am not taking sides but it could be argued by the club that the charter does not apply to season tickets but rather to individual match tickets. Furthermore it could also argue that this was superseded by the ticket price announcement for the new prices from 1/1/2016. This changes the admission price to full price for a disabled person and a PA free instead of the price under the charter of a concession price and a student price for the PA which is more expensive. It is a good move for disabled people with a PA but not for those who manage on their own.

It may have helped if the club had explained this if it is the case. It may even be the case that they didn't even know about the charter because I have to admit that I didn't and that could be why it is still there despite the price changes.

Good luck with your attempts though.

Thanks, The charter is rewritten every year apparently, it would seem the people who took care of this side of things in the club have been pushed aside. Big mistake.

Exile on Spencer St 18-02-2016 10:18

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Really generous act from Ken Webb reported on the Fishy site. A true football fan and a gent.

smobile 18-02-2016 11:34

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Fantastic Gesture - Thanks Ken

Chrisr 18-02-2016 19:39

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A great Gesture from a gentleman. I can now confirm that the club have withdrawn the disability concession for next season. Mr Burgess has confirmed this in an email to me. This is a sadly retrograde step for a so called community club. But it could be argued that this brings the club into line with other clubs, well I hope Mr Burgess is happy with his achievement, I have supported the club for many years through thick and thin. I never thought this club would sink to this, It is not like the ground is full to capacity week in week out.

cashman 18-02-2016 20:07

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A disgraceful state of affairs, the aim of a club like stanley should be to attract fans, this is nothing but driving them away,:mad: This new MD is a terrible move by whoever and certainly no Due Diligence has been done before this appointment in my view.

deeayess 18-02-2016 20:35

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Still no flexis either. Perhaps he might realise soon that his job is to not just attract new fans but to keep the ones we had.

I wonder if he has heard the Josey Wales quote of "don't p*** on my back and tell me it's raining"

Never mind, if crowds are poor it will be the fault of the Accrington public!!!

cashman 19-02-2016 07:58

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Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1161440)
Still no flexis either. Perhaps he might realise soon that his job is to not just attract new fans but to keep the ones we had.

I wonder if he has heard the Josey Wales quote of "don't p*** on my back and tell me it's raining"

Never mind, if crowds are poor it will be the fault of the Accrington public!!!

Spot on, thats the old chestnut " Blame the Accrington Public":rolleyes: well who are they gonna blame for regular fans not coming any more? There is actually "MORE" than this disabled disgrace, but as no-one involved has yet posted i aint saying,


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