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Nice to see the prices published early. £199 for a ST if bought before 30/4/16.
I can see the loyalty card being snapped up though for £20 to reduce the walk on price to £15, especially for those who cannot commit to coming every home match. Well done the club for publishing these details early. Now to start saving my £199 :)

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Excellent. Was it 200 for the early bird deal last season?

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Hope the club get plenty of advertising around the town and on leaflets on matchday whilst we're on a roll!

Loyalty card pretty cheap as a birthday present!

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Yes it was and the option to pay in instalments, providing the final payment was before 31st July I think.

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Sorry for being underwhelmed but this is actually worse for me than last season which was being called ridiculous. The only possible saving grace would be promotion.

Season tickets are the same price which may be a bonus if it's league one but not for me. It is unlikely to be worth my while given that to date this season I have made 7 games at home and I have been to every one I could go to. With a bit of luck I should be able to double that by the end of the season but that is dependent on rail works and any potential cuts to our bus services in the new financial year.

Last season on here it was a case that £20 was too much and would deter casual walkons despite the fact groups could use flexi tickets to get in for £15 each or £13.50 if bought while on offer. This season you can get in for £15 if you pay £20 up front. How many casual walkons will do that compared to those who will say sod it, I wont bother.

Last season I paid £135 for 10 tickets and those will be enough to cover me given I have acquired a few freebies for various reasons. This season it would cost £170 to achieve the same result and I wouldn't have paid up front so I have less incentive to go in the first place if the weather is dodgy or I have a raging hangover from a friday night out on the bevvy.

As for the discount with the loyalty card, I don't seem to buy as much merchandise as I used to other than the shirts on occasion an having been a member of the Stanley Legends, I am a bit wary of this as is seems roughly the same idea under a new name.

For me it would have been a better idea to leave things as they were. As for the cut price to £15 brought in as a great idea and listening to the fans, what is the justification for putting the prices up to £20 if we are still in league two other than last seasons idea of making money from the away fans?

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The season ticket prices dropping £1 is welcomed.

The match day prices, in particular under 12 for £10 is is **** take. I know any one in Accy would get a £20 card to get the £10 off or a free U12 with an adult, however it is obviously designed to sting away fans and has a few casual and far away Stanley fans caught in the cross fire too.

The 16/17 prices went up in Jan this year under the 'reductions' to encourage more fans too. Not enough thought is put into the pricing, if you were thinking of taking an U12 for a one off game you would think again.

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hope it persuades the current breed of Accy area residents to wise up 'n smell the coffee ! Well done the Club - can smell the expectation level from all the way down here on the south coast.

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I would doubt it as someone who doesn't go won't buy a season ticket just because we look half decent and and how many casuals are going to fork out £ 20 up front to get a fiver off or pay £20 a game. If we were being realistic, would we even pay a fiver to go to ewood or turf moor if accy were away? Some might just to watch football but most wouldn't.

The low season ticket prices only appeals to those who would buy one anyway and the loyalty card at £20 won't appeal to the casuals who might only do the odd game if any anyway so really it is the same as last season and that was almost universally unpopular price wise.

It might look good value if we get to league 1 but not if we get a regular beating and hover at the botttom. What is the answer? I don't know but the death of the flexi puts me off to a small extent.

Time was I would go to the football slavishly, mostly Rangers games but still about a dozen or so Accy games. Now following the way Scottish fans are treated and the way Scottish football is hating it's self to death, it's now far more Stanley games but I have reached the stage where I could easily take it or leave it especially when the grandkids are here and I am not the only one. Football is no longer "a matter of life and death" or even a major attraction these days in the lower leagues and those who have a business plan of "build it and they will come" could be in for a rude awakening.

On that note, I have a "home" game tomorrow for a change so roll on beer o'clock in Carlisle tomorrow :D

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I have brought to the attention of the club the complete withdrawal of Disabled concessions. I have contacted the club as I believed this to be an oversight. It was not, I was told the prices for the season tickets were not known until next week, I did point out it was already on the site and has been for about a week. I won't go into details at this moment but I would ask all our supporters to make their feelings known to the new MD Dave Burgess at this discriminatory step by a club that has always been the leader in looking after all of the community.

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After thinking long and hard about this, I too am beginning to feel a little underwhelmed. Last year, there was the offer to pay for your season ticket over a number of months (up until 31st July), this made things a little easier for the elder supporters on a pension. Although there is 11 weeks until the date of closure for the tickets at £199, it means that those on a low income/pension have at least only 3 pay days, which if saving up effectively means that you would have to find £66.67 per calendar month to pay for the ticket. As for Chrisr's statement that the club don't know the season ticket prices for next year, I find incredulous and the abolishment of the disabled concession is a disgrace.

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I agree completely on this, in fact after thinking on it, i may not even renew my own.:(

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I have no wish to put people off going to the club, But I fall into this category now and feel so annoyed and now disenfranchised, I have contacted the MD Dave Burgess but I am not convinced by the discussion I had with him. I have looked into many clubs in league one and two and sent him a couple of examples of what other clubs are doing. We don't even cater for injured service people at our club. I think the fans will be extremely annoyed at some of the ill considered suggestions coming out of the clubs management. I just want the ordinary fan to make their feelings known by asking Dave Burgess to reconsider this retrograde step. I know there is no legal requirement for the club to offer any concessions but if this is indicative of the route they are taking then I won't renew my season ticket and withdraw my support for the club. We have come a long way with a lot of hard work by unpaid and unseen volunteers. But I was told that there was plenty of time to get the season ticket, In other words they are waiting to see if there is enough of a protest from fans, I hope there is as it only needs an email, If you have time take a look at the disability concessions at other clubs. But I am beginning to think this is moving away from the family friendly club I have always been used to.

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Mr.T seeing as you read this forum regularly maybe you could please bring it to the attention of the powers that be the concerns of these loyal fan's is a cause for concern to the owners good work since October, when supporters such as Cashman talk like he has it makes me a lot concerned.

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Out of curiosity, What prices are you expecting the club to charge disabled supporters?

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I doubt if anyone wants to tell em what prices to charge, I personally think its very poor NO consideration is to be given to em, Out of curiosity are you bothered about that fact? or just couldn't give a stuff.

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Well seen as I'm asking shows I'm interested, I'm just unsure what the standard price is for a league two disabled ticket is? Do we do disabled prices this season?

Seen as most people struggle to get a constructive answer our of you il wait for ChrisR to reply!

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Just had a look back at the season ticket prices for last season & it looks like there wasn't a disabled concession price then either? At least there's not one shown on the list - trying to post a link to it but struggling to get it to work

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According to the Football League's guide to disabled facilities in League 2 the following 11 clubs offer concessionary prices for disabled fans:
Bristol Rovers, Cambridge, Dagenham, Luton, Mansfield, Morecambe, Northampton, Portsmouth, Stevenage, and Yeovil.
Contact each club to find out just what concession is made.
Leyton Orient claims to let disabled fans in for FREE, but not sure if there is a limit on the numbers.
The other 13 apparently charge full price.

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So do Stanley, depends on the disability
Admission Prices ? Accrington Stanley FC

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So where did ChrisR,get the complete withdrawal of disabled facilities from then? the star trek.

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Half right, Dave; an accompanying person, not the disabled fan, gets in free. But maybe that's what happens at Leyton Orient, and every other club?

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Even half right is an achievement these days ;) :)

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That (full price, accompanying person free) is a pretty standard arrangement across many sports in my (wheelchair pushing) experience. I do think a season ticket should be available on that basis.

On balance, I think a disabled person who can attend a game unaccompanied should be entitled to the concession price (including for a season ticket) - but I recognise drawing the line for a single admission can be tricky, especially for (volunteer?) gate staff on the day.

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I think the price I paid last season was the same as the over 65s price but I am not over 65 and as such do not qualify for a concession on age. I would be happy to pay that price, Last season and the previous seasons I have had to show DWP letters confirming my entitlement to disabilty benefit. and I am also registered partially sighted and had to show all this to the club. I was helped a great deal by Rob Houseman. If people in the club needed any history on this issue Rob is the man. I have spoke further to Dave Burgess and have email correspondence with him, I have to wait until next week until he looks at it again, But there was no need for this to be an issue, I won't say anymore on the discussion at this point but I would take seriously Cashmans signature. I don't want anything for nothing. I do hope this helps a little.

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Dave I think you have missed the point. A disabled person has always paid the concession rate regardless of age. Excluding children. and carers were admitted free, No Problem. who decided that the concession rate should be withdrawn for disabled people under 65? I did mention that we don't even allow injured ex service people in for free or a low rate. I think some manager in the new team needs to realise what the club is about, We are on the cusp of making history, How does it look to the outside world. I could understand it if we had not enough room for the full paying fans to get in. But I think some of the ideas being touted from the senior managers is deeply worrying. not thought through. and if implemented will seriously damage the club. perhaps if they listened to supporters we could avoid the pitfalls, After all we all want the club to succeed.

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Sorry Chrisr, I have to take issue. As far as I am aware, the club has never offered a disabled concessionary season ticket. I agree with LancsDave in that the club do allow carers in free with a full ticket price paying disabled supporter, however they must first prove their disablility with letters from DWP etc etc. In fact, most grounds I have visited with my partner (who is disabled) operate in a similar way, the notable exception was Torquay (when a league club). I do agree though that disabled persons wanting a season ticket, should be allowed to get it at the concessionary rate, especially persons such as yourself who are registered partially sighted. Lets hop MD Dave Burgess comes up with a solution.

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I was only referring to the Football League guide which states the clubs who offer disabled free entry.

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It certainly didn't show you were opposed to it, is that constructive enough for yeh? the price is irrelevant, the fact Chrisr was told the concession he got (whatever that is) i dont know was withdrawn, is enough to make any decent person make a comment about it, you didn't.in fact i have never been aware of you making a criticism in all the time yeh been on here.Be constructive and show me one yeh made. :rolleyes:

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Post 12 on the "Where are we at?" Thread, 3rd paragraph!

I wasn't familiar if we have done disabled prices before or how much the average disabled ticket was, hence why I asked!

If the club do agree to do a disabled price then great but even still I don't think £8.65 a game is a bad deal for a adult season ticket, Disabled or not!

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That aint criticism, its you making a valid point which i agreed with.:rolleyes: yer full of bull baldy,

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OUTBACK OZZY, you can take issue all you like. I have the season ticket here in front of me. it just says concession , The point is the club has for many years allowed disabled supporters to buy concessionary season tickets, I have had a few.. so why is there a problem now? This is a principle argument not a financial one for me. But the message it does send out is bad, The overall price for a season ticket is nothing like other clubs in league one charge, but the principle still stands.

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Dave I do not want free entry or ever did, The club sold concessionary tickets to disabled people. I think they charged the same price as the over 65s. I have no problem with that, why can't I and others do the same this year?? simple.

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Its that simple to me, the guy has had one for awhile, so to remove that is stupidity of the highest order, and will do the club no good whatsoever, I think our new MD should join the circus, cos thats were clowns are employed.

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It seems strange to me that the club are making a lot of noises about being at the heart of the community yet don't offer concessionary tickets for the disabled or for injured service personnel. A rethink by the club management required here I reckon!

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In general I agree that disabled fans (customers) should be entitled to the concession price, as they cant work, arent likely to be working anytime soon and thus are unlikely to afford a full price.

Perhaps our new MD has just 'misunderstood' the pricing structure of football in general? Concession to me means old, young and infirm.

However, perhaps if this is true in its entirety then it is synonymous with the classification of disabled in general society. I know people who have blue parking badges entitling them to park wherever they like. Now I have no truc with parking directly outside a shop if you have limited mobility - but I know a guy with one eye who is 'disabled'. Does the lack of an eye prevent him from walking 300 yards to said shop just like I would have to? Back to relevance, should the lack of an eye (he works) entitle him to discounted football? I couldnt give many examples but there are plenty of people who are classed as disabled when in fact they are as able as the majority to access the stadium, watch the match, shout and bawl, and pay £8.65 for the privilege.

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If you download a copy of the clubs customer charter available on the club information page you'll find that both wheelchair disabled person's and ambient are indeed entitled to the concessionary rate.

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I was replying to Exile's post, merely pointing out what the club website says about free entry. Not suggesting for one minute you wanted free entry.

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Disabled tickets. Bit of a minefield but i'll try to describe what the club does.

There is no obligation to reduce the price of tickets for disabled supporters as far as I am aware. In fact reducing the cost of a ticket for a disabled person can be seen as positive discrimination as I am reminded frequently by visiting disabled supporters.
It's more about access for disabled supporters. If a supporter with medium or high disability needs a carer we offer a free ticket for the carer with no reduction for the disabled supporter. Away supporters comment on how fair this is and are happy with this policy.
We were criticised last season for having reduced prices for both disabled and carers.
Season tickets are similar this season. Disabled pay full price for their age bracket, carer is free. Sometimes there are times when individual cases are considered for a discount.

Unfortunately I haven't been involved in next year's season ticket arrangements/ pricing but I will ask for the information any of you need at the weekend. Maybe setting up a disabled supporters working group is an idea.

Anything else you would like to know i'll answer if I can or find out if I can't.

Robert Houseman SLO [email protected]

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Thanks rob, I fully accept the club is under no obligation to offer a concession to anybody. My grumble is simple. Last season and a couple prior to this I have purchased a disability concession by showing my DLA letter and other evidence of partial sightedness to you . who I may add was very helpful. I paid my money and got my ticket, I would like to question the misinterpretation of positive discrimination. this legislation was allowed to bring equality in the work place. If you follow the logic that to offer a disability concession is positive discrimination and has been suggested to me, That this would be illegal to offer a concession to the disabled. Then surely this must apply to all concessions or is it ok to pick and choose who the club discriminates against? I can't see why this has become a problem this season. I am sorry you were not involved this season as I am sure this would not have happened. I do think it sends out the wrong message to loyal fans.

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Macca If that is how you really feel towards people with disability? This shows an ignorance of peoples conditions. I can walk through the gate or I wouldn't come, But there are times when I can't walk but you don't see me then. you can't always see what is wrong. I agree there will always be the few who will screw the system if they can and I despise them as much as other people do. I have a blue badge and can count on one hand how many times it has been used. (I can't drive anymore) so I am dependant on my wife, I have a bus pass but can very rarely use it due to my condition, people only see me out at my very best. I would suggest our new MD has a lot to learn quickly. I have followed Stanley since the unibond days when Paul Beck was the hero I was not disabled then, If this proves to be a big problem then I will not renew my season ticket and withdraw support for the club. The club is moving away from the friendly club it was. I will wait and see how the situation pans out. I still want the club to get promotion this season. But I hope enough fans ask the question not for me but for all genuine disabled people.

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Thanks for that Andy, This can be found on the club website under club info, then click supporters and it says you can download the clubs charter, It is a PDF document, Please scroll down to page 6 which is clear and self explanatory, If our new MD has not familiarised his good self with this charter I think he should very quickly.

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Not a problem only to glad to help anybody with any form of disability will always get my support not only at football but in any walk of life hope this is resolved for you as we need all our supporters on board now and in the future good luck, Andyd.

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The fact he aint, endorses my view, that hes a clown. who if he carries on in this way, will bring nowt but trouble and grief to the club.:(

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The Customer Charter is for season 2015/16. I presume it wil be rewritten for the new season. Also, we have taken part in the "tickets for troops" scheme which enabled members of the armed forces or those medically discharged free tickets to designated matches.

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Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of concessions for disabled people, there is no mention of a concession being anything other than over 65s and students in last years season ticket announcement so it is strange that you got one however it doesn't surprise me. Season ticket prices frozen ? Accrington Stanley FC

Some clubs do concessions for ex servicemen with a Defence Discount Card, Stevenage did for me last year when I asked and they also did the same with season tickets. From memory Rochdale charged the full price for disabled last time I was there except for those in wheelchairs on the basis that they could choose any seat they wanted where as wheelchair users were stuck at the front.

There is no such thing as a disabled person per se there are people who have a disability and that may not always be constant. As Chris says just because he looks fine when you see him it doesn't mean he is always fine. I work with the Council team which deals with helping people claim benefits, apply for blue badges and assess care charges. Everyone is different and some disabled people get paid far more than the average wage where as others don't and can receive very little so to to base having a concession on poverty is also wrong. On the other hand the same could be said about pensioners who do get concessions regardless, however it would be wrong to means test season tickets.

My personal gripe is as I have stated above regarding flexi tickets and I discussed this with David Burgess at Carlisle and emailed him as requested so that is my crusade!

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It also appears that season 14/15 did not meantion disabled people as a concession 2014/15 Season Ticket Prices ? Accrington Stanley FC

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the main question is do disabled, not the wheelchair bound ones, get a concession or not. if they get one and it does not say disabled does it really matter. its the money that matters. going back to wheelchair bound fans I have a disabled step son and back in my groundhopping days he used to come with me. if I remember correctly all clubs had the same pricing structure free for him and full price for me as a carer and this was all divisions below the greedy league.

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It does in the charter, please read it.

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I don't really understand your question Chris. I don't 'feel' one way or another towards a disabled person, they are just another person. I've plainly said that some cases are different. The problem is with classification. You can't really start to differentiate between disabilities, just like you can't start to differentiate between poverty and affluence. It's a tricky minefield once you start to knuckle down into it.

One problem I have always had with football ground pricing structures is that there are too many different bandings. It should be adult and concession, 2 prices, done, dusted. Let disabled or anything else be covered in the customer charter and if you cant find that you ring and they can take each case on its own merit :)

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Macca have a look at the supporters charter on the club website, it is under club info,supporters charter. Page 6 it is clear, and unambiguous.

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Again I am not taking sides but it could be argued by the club that the charter does not apply to season tickets but rather to individual match tickets. Furthermore it could also argue that this was superseded by the ticket price announcement for the new prices from 1/1/2016. This changes the admission price to full price for a disabled person and a PA free instead of the price under the charter of a concession price and a student price for the PA which is more expensive. It is a good move for disabled people with a PA but not for those who manage on their own.

It may have helped if the club had explained this if it is the case. It may even be the case that they didn't even know about the charter because I have to admit that I didn't and that could be why it is still there despite the price changes.

Good luck with your attempts though.

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Aye but the new M.D. with an F.A. background should surely?:confused:

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You would expect so but over the years I have learned that what you would expect isn't always the case.

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Thanks, The charter is rewritten every year apparently, it would seem the people who took care of this side of things in the club have been pushed aside. Big mistake.

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Really generous act from Ken Webb reported on the Fishy site. A true football fan and a gent.

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Fantastic Gesture - Thanks Ken

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A great Gesture from a gentleman. I can now confirm that the club have withdrawn the disability concession for next season. Mr Burgess has confirmed this in an email to me. This is a sadly retrograde step for a so called community club. But it could be argued that this brings the club into line with other clubs, well I hope Mr Burgess is happy with his achievement, I have supported the club for many years through thick and thin. I never thought this club would sink to this, It is not like the ground is full to capacity week in week out.

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A disgraceful state of affairs, the aim of a club like stanley should be to attract fans, this is nothing but driving them away,:mad: This new MD is a terrible move by whoever and certainly no Due Diligence has been done before this appointment in my view.

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Still no flexis either. Perhaps he might realise soon that his job is to not just attract new fans but to keep the ones we had.

I wonder if he has heard the Josey Wales quote of "don't p*** on my back and tell me it's raining"

Never mind, if crowds are poor it will be the fault of the Accrington public!!!

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Spot on, thats the old chestnut " Blame the Accrington Public":rolleyes: well who are they gonna blame for regular fans not coming any more? There is actually "MORE" than this disabled disgrace, but as no-one involved has yet posted i aint saying,

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I've been reading with interest the same subject on fanbase on the Rochdale forum who are currently losing fans quite regularly, someone on their forum suggested trying the £100 season ticket experiment that both Hartlepool and Bradford tried a gamble that you lose money at first but both these clubs have now almost doubled their average attendance's which brings extra revenue eventually but crucially builds the long term fanbase maybe we could try this while on a more secure financial footing must be worth a try.

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think bradfords cup exploits over a couple of years have helped. no media cup interest and a couple of average seasons their gates will drop down no matter what the cost is. at the moment Bradford are still on a high. if for once we could have a good cup run with all the media attention it gives I,m sure our gates would really go up. not the time for Stanley to do something drastic like this.

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I have researched this much further and to be honest disabled concession at grounds are just a hotpotch of policy on the hoof. Surely the English FA should be able to get together with clubs and have a coherent policy on this serious matter. I strongly suspect that other thing have a much higher priority than disabled fans. I can only say since this has cropped up the new owner has been very conspicuous by their absence, I just hope they cast their minds back to the history of the club and the dark days we came through. Even in those times we catered for disabled and unemployed people. But those in charge at the club have obviously got a different vision. I just hope their greed does not damage the club.

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Whilst supporting your basic point about liking to see the club helping the unlucky, and regretting the loss of this concession, I don't see how anyone "in charge" of a club like Stanley can genuinely be accused of greed. Ownership, as far as I can see, gives you the right to pour money endlessly into a black hole with no hope of any return and no reward other than being abused by fans for not pouring in more. I wouldn't do it, that's for sure.

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The issue is with the clown appointed new MD, not the owner.

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I can assure you and anyone else that I am not blaming the new Stanley owner of greed, I have been a fan too long. I think the new MD has other ideas that are going to shake the club but I am not sure this will go down well. However I don't really understand the point you are making. The owner is no fool and knows when and where he will put his money, Andy is a fan as well as a business man. The big problem is the new MD just removed the disabled concession without any warning or consultation, It was arrogant and bullish to treat supporters in such a high handed manner. At the moment the club is on the cusp of promotion and is attracting interest again. I am afraid after this season I don't see I can support the club whilst it is being run by such a person as the current MD. I just hope the proposals I have put to the FA are discussed and maybe even adopted.

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I doubt very much if you will be the only one chrisr.:eek:

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OK, you're talking about the MD, so where does greed comes into it for him? Uncaring, unthinking, bad Google Page Ranking, arrogant maybe, but greed? Your word, not mine ...

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Chimer the greed I can see in the new MD is in the removal of the concession and other plans he has taken from other clubs. I think he sees the club as a bigger cash cow to be exploited. I am afraid the more I see of him in action the more I become disillusioned for the future of the club. See who departs and comes to the club in the very near future.

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Anybody who thinks they can make money out of Accy Stanley must be off their head. And as for asset stripping, what assets.

For those in need of a thinking dog for the stupid, there are no assets other than the good will of the fans and be warned - football fans are a very fickle breed.

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Just done some digging, the Flexi Tickets weren't announced until 6th July last season, Have the club stated there will definitely be no more flexi tickets?

Maybe they're trying to push Season Tickets before announcing Flexi Tickets if they are still doing them!

Flexi tickets frozen ? Accrington Stanley FC

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I just heard Rob Heys has left the building?:rolleyes::( not the best move if true.

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Rob Houseman was telling people in the ticket queue one day that after these vouchers were finished there would be no more flexi's. I can see why they push seasons first but even at that price it's just no good for some of us who can't make midweek games. I even suggested to the new MD that I would buy one at 15 tickets at a reasonable price - say £11 -12 each early bird.

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Hes another who has been side shunted along wi others.

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At least we will look a lot more professional when it hits the fan this time :rolleyes: .

For a club that relies on goodwill from people they seem to be going down a strange route.

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Fans are distracted at the minute because we are doing so well and long may it continue. If we do secure promotion I think we will see a new type of management, maybe a new stadium on the horizon as the current one would be judged to be in the wrong place and no longer fit for purpose.

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Something seriously wrong behind the scenes when a fan, as much as an employee, can't work under the new regime!

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It's in Accy, innit?

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apart from Morecambe I can,t think of any new flat pack grounds,sorry stadiums, have been built in better positions than the original ones. the crown is not brilliant as we know just needs money being thrown at it. as for the issues of disabled season tickets surely there,s plenty of time left to sort this situation out. if we don't go up our fan base could shrink even further. as I,ve said before you go to your last match as well as your first. it,s an issue that dosn,t bother me attending Stanley but it does others. look after yor customers and they,ll look after you.

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With regards to season tickets way no form on the website to download.

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Good point, Rishton, as I presume you mean "why no form".

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I do. I have got mine but they do not make it easy for any new fans who are unable to get to the ground of the shop in town during the week.

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Now why would we want to move when we have just secured a 50 year lease on the ground? Also, I have heard rumours that the cow shed could soon become a thing of the past and a 1500 all seater stand in its place. Also,and this I think maybe just a tad controversial, the Coppice end will be the new home end (covered) and the Clayton end will become the away end. As I say, not my words but words I have heard recently and with £1.32 million to play with, these rumours may not be too far from truth.

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Sounds a common sense plan with terracing and seating for away fans in one place and a nice new stand up the side.

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Sounds great. Build it and they will come!

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No plans been drawn as of yet so I've been informed. changing ends sounds ok until you take in to account that the control box(cabin) has to be in the away end, also theres better access to where the away coach's park on Livingston rd where there isn't any access to the clayton end apart from the pub carpark and past the main stand, not forgetting the police have an input as well. but like I say I may be wrong.

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We said that about the roo :rolleyes:

Note not a misprint, there's no f in roof (well there wasn't then) :D

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I thought this as well when I read it earlier on my phone. The sensible thing would be roof the Coppice, seat it, remove the seats from the Clayton end, charge £20 for a seat and £15 to stand and you have solved most of the perceived problems and you don't even need to spend £20 on a loyalty card. Or is that too simplistic?

As for a 1500 seater stand, you could use that and the Coppice for away fans and close the rest of the ground as that would cover the usual crowds and then some.

If the business plan is build it and they will come then god help us. We probably have a core support of around 800 with the rest coming on an adhoc or semi regular basis. The former will come anyway on the whole as long as the prices are season ticket cheap, the latter less so and the way the new MD is annoying people it could get less.

Casual walkons might not bother if they have any form of hassle because unless people haven't noticed, there are plenty more things to do other than go to an Accy game as last night showed. If we can't attract people when we are in 4th going on 2nd with the games in hand then we won't attract them at all.

How many are disillussioned fans of other clubs or supporters whose team are playing away? Part of the mystique about Stanley is the adversity in the face of countless struggles managing with what they have. Remove that and to a certain extent you have just another League 2 team.

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PinkA lot of what you say is true Deeayess but it,s all well and good being nostalgic and with most of the old directors getting older with the recent problems with postponement,s and the recent big losses for a club our size I think without the recent takeover we could well have not been here and myself and the other hardcore 900+ would have had nowhere to go and nothing to spend your extra £8.65 or £15 or £20 a fortnight.

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No, we would probably have done what every other club that lived beyond their means do and start again at a level we can sustain.

Look at what happened with gretna and their millionaire backer. The high the highspots of European competition and now play in the Lowland League.

Any changes have to be sustainable and not rely on someone elses money and I can't see where the money will come from given previous years losses.

By all means buy into the dream but watch out for the nightmare that could follow.

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Again what you say is true but after following Stanley for so long and this season is probably the best ever we have a chance of being in less debt or hopefully debt free and all we are getting on this website is a lot of negativity OK this Mr. Burgess is testing peoples patience but he is just another employee who will have to get it right or he too could be shown the door I want to enjoy the dream but also would hate to see long standing supporters stop coming because of one individual.

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I agree with you there however it is beyond testing peoples patience as most who have spoken to him will tell you. People like him don't go easy and how far does the club have to sink before he admits he's wrong.

I booked time off to do a few days way for the Newport game but still haven't booked the trip yet as I'm losing interest and keep putting it off until tomorrow.

I will still be down this season as I still have flexi tickets but I can't guarantee it next season. Spot the benefit of a flexi.

Stanley aren't my only team, I followed Rangers for years as a season ticket while also attending Stanley games. Fans eventually removed those damaging the club after a long struggle by not attending in numbers and during this period Stanley became the place of choice on a Saturday and continued this season and would have been next but this could change.

In terms of places I've been and trophies I've seen won, promotion to League 1 wouldn't normally be a great deal as such but I would love to see Stanley do it as it would be against all the odds.

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Average attendance now 1522 at home

Let's see if there's any significant effect on this number in the remaining games, best way to judge.

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At £180 for 15 tickets it is hardly worth it with only £19 pound off the £199 full 23 games.

The flexi has gone, as it costs £135 for 7 games same as 10 with the 'early bird flexi', obviously 8 games with the new card is £150 same as the 'late bird flexi' for 10.

This loyalty card thing is not worth it, as to make it even save a penny you need to go to 7 games (30.4%) whilst the cost is 67.8% of a season ticket. I can't see people not getting a season ticket but forking out £45 for their first game.

With the season ticket costing £8.65 a game flexis (if they did exist) should not be too cheap as some may get them instead of season tickets, but add 50% is £12.97. 8 tickets at this price would be £103.62. I think a £100 8 game ticket (one ticket per game only) would be fair, and if half way through another one is bought, then there would be 16 games for £200 only costing £1 more than the ST but no incentive not to get a ST.

Better than charging £10 for under 12s.

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As someone who has used a flexi ticket for a few years now I think its a shame they are going.

However, I am more than happy to keep backing the club and get a membership card and pay £15 per game when i can make it.

What I would suggest, why not make the membership card have a life span of say 5 seasons?
That way you will have more casual fans buying it as they will be happy to fork out he expense of membership if they will get to use it more than once.

I will be honest, there is no way if i was a casual fan I would buy a membership card if it only lasted for 1 season and I only planned to visit maybe 3 or 4 times.

One last thing, why not put the membership/loyalty card as an app to make it easy for fans to get tickets - you can pay over your phone and simply pick them up with a quick QI scan of the membership/loyalty ID.

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Out of interest Dave, how many Home League games do you reckon you will make it to?

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I have 3 left for this season although I have normally ran out of tickets by the end of feb!
7 so far

The cancelled games are probably the reason why

Last year I did 11 home league , 5 away league, 3 cup home, 2 cup away

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So based on last year it will cost you £195 for league only games compared to the £199 ST. That is why I can't see many who don't get a ST getting the loyalty card.

It only works for those who go to 7 to 11 games, and those who go to 9 to 11 may get a ST just in case they can make it to more. The only benefit is paying as and when you go, which will be a factor to some.

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good point chewbacca, may need to reconsider a season ticket.

The beauty of a flexi is I can bring a friend and use 2 tickets.

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Saving £19 at the top end of my example is better than nothing where a season ticket is no use. Flexis would be targeted at people for whom a season ticket doesn't suit not to replace them hence the savings can't be as much as a season ticket plus they also mean you can pay up front reducing matchday outlay. They would have to increase similar to season tickets otherwise people wouldn't buy season tickets therefore your 16 game example wouldn't work as such for the reason you have given.

I used the fifteen game one as a personal choice as I would guess that is around the number of games I'd make in normal circumstances. There is no reasonable argument for arguing the loyalty card plus 10 games is a better deal than the 10 game early flexi for people who would commit to those many games.

The argument is academic though because it doesn't fit the master plan.