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Confident today?

I'd like to see GTF to start instead of Terry presuming Billy still isn't fit! I like Terry but Westley will be setting his team out not to get beat so think GTF has abit more about him than Terry!

My team

Parish

The Don
Omar
Pearson
Vyner

O'Sullivan
Brown
Conneely
Sean

Clark
GTF

Subs...Strong bench with abit of pace and energy on Rommy, Lacey and Shay to come on hopefully finish the game off!

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I'd like to publicly welcome Graham Westley back to the Crown . . . . . . . . . . . & then kick his arse out of town after we've humiliated him :cool::D

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Boco and Fletch on the bench.

Gornell starts again.

Another goalless first half then?

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Eagles not even in the bench.

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What is he news on Chris Eagles?

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The Terry Gornell experiment is not working. Need more movement. Boco on please.

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2-0 down to the worst team in the league

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Gutted.

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Me too John !... wonder what went wrong ?.

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Not many redeeming features from that one. No idea what the formation was at the end, apart from a load of blokes running after a ball.

Parish doesn't boss the area enough. I think he will be dropped.
Vyner Was poor all round. Think he was at fault for the first.
Pearson had an off day - especially his passing.
Beckles did ok.
The Don - unsurprisingly MOTM
McConville anonymous (we played pretty much everything down the right flank)
Seamus did ok
Brown didn't add much
O'Sullivan was actually very lively - he did ok and I was surprised he came off
Clark - lightweight
Gornell - just not in it

The subs made little difference, although the team as a whole at least raised the tempo for a while and caused more trouble in the box. However, when Newport got possession we were all at sea.

Suspect Coleman will shoulder a lot of the blame.

Not the end of the world. Still 8th.

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His Face don't fit, simple as. Coleman said last week he has done nothing wrong so I have to point the finger at the management team and ask questions as we have not gelled at all. What is going on.

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The right men were brought on, the wrong uns taken off, rank bad management in my view,2 of his blue eyed boys were shocking this afternoon, yet unsurprisingly remained on for the duration, the next time i hear the song " super johnny colman " i will probably throw up.:eek:

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Wouldn't disagree about the subs there Cashy.

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His face does not fit simple as. The game today must be seen as the lowest point in this season's campaign. Why have we got so many good players just not gelling so far into the season. Our best football is played on the ground not in the air. Our poor passing and inability to keep the ball was embarrassing. I have to question the ability of the management at this point. We seem unable to change tactics when needed. Today was crying out for a 3-5-2 formation. Our answer was to play the lone striker up front which is the most defensive formation in a big match that you just don't want to lose. We fail on all fronts. Perhaps the management have taken the club as far as they can.

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Chrisr, had the management taken the club too far last season also? We're still 9th in the league with the smallest budget maybe you should just think about that for a moment. Yes today weren't great but to want the manager sacked is actually embarrassing

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I have written my comments on today's game, but I will refrain from posting them until tomorrow, as I am so disgusted tonight that I feel I should 'sleep on it', as I do not wish to cause offence!

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Embarrassing performance.
It wasn't so much the fact we were beaten, but the manner of the defeat. Newport made Stanley look very ordinary & deserved their victory.
I am more concerned by the lack of any real improvement in the squad. Stanley have some consistently good players and some who are consistently poor, yet we field the same team week in week out and it doesn't take a football genius to know where our weakness lies.
We may hate Westley, but he did a right professional job on us today. Unlike Stanley, who seem to be stagnating, Newport are definitely improving.
The management must shoulder much of the blame for todays inept performance.
:mad:

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Think about this for a moment. playing 1 up front against a side that had only won 1 game this season and we were at home, that is rank poor management in my view. budgets etc have sod all to do with that fact, and the man up front played like he couldn't score in a brothel, and do you think thats good?:rolleyes:

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Well, that depends on the quality of the brothel! :D

Seriously though, from all accounts today was an exceptionally bad day at the office.

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Got to agree with you Cashy big squad Coleman keep,s saying they will all have a part to play when?, to keep playing with one upfront at home is starting to pee a lot of long term fans off bar packed at half time people saying they might go home than endure that we have,nt played well at home for awhile now including back end off last season Coleman say,s he wants more through the turnstiles change something then for God sake today was totally dreadful and for all we think about Westley he never stopped geeing his team up I was sat yards from him in contrast to our woeful lack of encouragement from our bench need to turn it round quickly at home or the crowds will dwindle and Mr Holt will have something to think about.

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VERY poor indeed. As others have said, he keeps talking about the squad as being the best he has ever assembled but why won't he use it???

Truly dreadful and outplayed by the League's bottom club for 80+ minutes. Not one player from the starting XI deserves any credit whatsoever after that shambles. Thought Donancien and Beckles where the best of a bad bunch, along with maybe GTF who showed some decent touches.

As for the rest, absolute shambles. Golden Boy back to his old self, WHY is he taking every free kick and corner!??! He didn't once go into a tackle full blooded apart from the in the final minute. Will it make a difference?? Nope, no doubt he will probably be captain next week.

3 tough away games in 7 days to come, maybe it's a blessing in disguise after that showing today.

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No Coleman for the interview. Instead Jimmy was sent. A bit too much blame of the players for my liking, but at least he acknowledged that it's for them to sort out.https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=VNaDN8v1qUE

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Didn't see that coming,we never got out of first gear all over the pitch.
They had a simple game plan and Tozzer just screened their CBs all game,which took Terry out the game.
For me Rigg run the game for them and was surprised by their movement.
They were solid and disciplined,but Acci at 70% would have destroyed them.
It's surprising how many teams are struggling at home and are getting picked off.
Missing Kees hold up play,as our system relies on this.
Was a poor day at the office,but maybe the kick we need to get us on a winning run

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Seems a theme in 2016, struggling against **** teams at home.

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Well, it seems my previous comments have been lost in the ether!
But, having seen other posters, with whom I totally agree, I suppose I had better give my thoughts.

After over 16yrs as a season ticket holder, I did something today that I have not done before..... leave the ground 20 mins before the end!!

We were absolutely dire in the first half, I considered staying in the bar with a few like minded souls... may as well get p155ed as go out again!

Things did not improve in the second half, despite my reappearance, & no doubt a 'hair dryer' from Coley!

Football is supposed to be an 'entertainment' industry... at least that was the argument from the great Jimmy Hill, when, donkeys years ago, he managed to improve players wages by some considerable amounts!

I get more entertainment from watching my 8yr old grandson play for his school team, even though they may be rubbish! At least they enjoy what they are doing & try their hardest to get the ball!

And this is what I think may be part of the problem in professional football...
the players are too bound up in playing to the manager's system, & frightened of deviating from it, & not enjoying their game... this has been prevalent in the senior leagues for some time, which is what drew me to Stanley so many years ago.... unfortunately, we seem to be heading in the same direction!

Please, John & Jimmy, you are in possession of a great squad, let them play to their best, I can honestly say that, over the last few (home) games, I have yet to see players who enjoy their game as much as they did when they played for the under nines!

Saying that, I have got to say that Mr Westley, after so many years, knew exactly how to play us & win,,, all credit to the way he set up his team & exploited our weaknesses....
although I will still never forgive him for trying to trip up Andy Mangam, after his goal celebrations took him within striking distance of Westley's foot!!

Sorry for the rant, maybe I should have left it until tomorrow to post!

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From other's comments, maybe you've summed up the problem, F19. Stanley have been relying on Billy Kee's ability to hold up the ball for some time. But he's been missing for several matches now. However, 'the system' doesn't change.
Bit like having a car that runs perfectly on petrol then, when you suddenly can't find any, you put in diesel. And guess what...?

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I think your loyalty is admirable. However the facts are staring us all in the face we are easy to suss out, We can't play in the air, we can't seem to string two passes together. Yet we have quality players doing nothing, earlier in the posts people were asking what has happened to Chris Eagles I would also ask about others as well. I have watched games that Chris Eagles would have been a great asset as a playmaker. We continue to play the one striker up front which is a terrible job for anybody, today had a 3-5-2 formation written all over it. one up front means a 10 man defence which sends out the wrong message.
As for last season, That unforgivable decision against us at Wimbledon seemed to finish us off. when your manager can't lift your players to win one and draw on from 5 on the superb form we were showing the cracks were showing. The Stevenage game sealed it for me, All we had to do was score and we were up but we didn't and we all know the rest. To say we have the smallest budget in the league is a little exaggerated as we have a big squad which seems to be unused. Jimmy Bell recognised how easy we were to beat and how easy we give the ball away and can't seem to change formation.
The time has come to have a look at what the management are doing and have they taken the club as far as they can. I am not a Coley hater. I judge people on the results and performance, This season we had a massive influx of new players and the worst pre-season ever. The quality of opposition was poor. It is a tragedy that after the investment Andy Holt is putting in the team are letting everyone down, I know the Buck stops with John and Jimmy and they will do their utmost to turn things around. The attendances are dropping again the atmosphere is downbeat and we desperately need to revive our fortunes with a few wins immediately. Yes we are 9th in the league today but by the end of November we could be 5th or 20th we are that unreliable. That suggests there is something seriously wrong behind the scenes. If we have high quality players who have played at higher levels then we should be playing them week in week out until we are back on top of things. I have to say Matty pearson a player we all admire had a woeful day today, One or two players being off I can accept but the amount of players having an off day today was unacceptable and sends warning messages out. At times they were like 11 Strangers who were picked from the stand. I know that sounds harsh but just listen to the crowd. we need to have a full and frank review of where we are and what the plan is. I am not advocating we sack the manager tomorrow or anything as drastic as that but we need to monitor the progress.

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The mood is too negative. It was a poor performance today, and clearly there's some problems to sort, but that is all.

We all think we know more than Coleman but we don't. think about being the manager when Piero, Halliday, fosu, crooks, windass and Davies all ****** off. He's built a great defence from almost nowt and organised them very quickly. Who amongst us would have brought in Beckles under the noses of all the other div 2 clubs? There are other good players there as we've seen from occasional glimpses - so whilst there's weaknesses in certain areas I think we should acknowledge Coleman has bought/borrowed well enough.

That there are 20+ other managers who are also struggling to find consistency and turn their teams into potential champions (often with better resources) shows just how difficult it is to get all ducks in a row. Players and systems that may ultimately fail need some persisting with - even at the expense of a rocky patch.

Then there is Coleman's record. How many times has he managed to break through to the next level? He can't do it every season but he seems to get there in the end.

Finally, we are a third of the way into the season. Thirty one games to go. We are two points off the playoffs.

A degree of patience is called for.

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......and......

If we can see it week in and week out......why don't the dynamic duo see it ???? Blind loyalty ??? I used to think John Miles could be a lazy so and so but "Golden boy " makes Miles look like Gattuso or Yaya Toure !!!!:rolleyes:

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There may be a few ex Accy players available in January. Our new owners seem to be indicating that there will be some serious team strengthening done that month.
Murphy had a 'mare yesterday and will have to pull his socks up. Lee Molineaux flatters to deceive and Jim doesn't seem to have confidence in him.

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Interesting to watch Jimmy's interview after the game yesterday.

Apparently they have read the riot act and their will be changes........ will be interesting to see who plays next weekend.

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yesterday i couldn,t get out of the ground fast enough not even bothering to get my ticket for bradford next week. second best to a side rock bottom in desire, skill and worst of all tactics. plan a doesn,t work at home against sides who sit back and try to catch us on the break and we end up chasing the game like 11 schoolboys running around in circles. we always look like the away side at home. our system might work away from home but at home we need to be more adventurous with a higher tempo. not going to have a go at the players or management as they all can go from zero to hero in a week but if anyone thought yesterdays fiasco was acceptable then they must think the loan ranger was a documentart on the u.s.a. in the 19th.century.

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Revived Red - it has taken Coleman about 16 years to take Accrington through several divisions to the point where they are seen as worthy rivals to the likes of Portsmouth, Notts County etc and where fans are disappointed not to be in a playoff position.

Three cheers for the patience that Coleman has shown. Where would we be without it?

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Should people not look forward to better days? I imagine fans of all clubs do that! Patience that our manager has shown is wearing a bit thin to me, what patience? we all are aware how much has been achieved at our club, who never had a pot to pee in,but things have moved on, and a man investing real money in our club is on the scene now, it dont take any qualifications to know fer sure,a squad like we now have, can do better,simply by trying to win games under a better formation that is happening now, with regularity,as far as i can see our management team returned cos no other league club seemed to be offering? i dont call that patience, i call it necessity, not blaming em for doing so,

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After watching the goals, I must admit i cringed at our naive defending.
Their no nonsense approach paid dividends,just a quick question,whys Hughes not playing?,
He is a bit of a leader/talker,and communication seemed a bit of an issue yesterday.

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There's only one thing that could have made yesterday's performance and result even worse...and that would be if Westley was Stanley's manager.:eek:

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Cashy - I agree that looking forward is a valid viewpoint to hold.

However, think you have to temper that with the reality that all clubs want to do that and half of them end up going backwards! I can't see evidence that Coleman can't take us further. He may have had more backing from Holt of late but he has responded with almost getting promoted. We are 15 games in this season and in 9th place (having lost our best players). Way too soon to judge even for the most forward thinkers that he's reached his limit.

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I too thought twice about forking out for a Bradford ticket after yesterday's inept performance, but my love for our club overcame my angry quivering stiff upper lip, so I'll be there next week cheering our boys on!
Some valid points from both sides of the argument and perhaps now is the time for calm reflection.
I am always surprised by the oppositions ability to use the ball more effectively when they play Stanley at home and there is no doubt we have been lucky in recent home games, particularly against Blackpool.
I think yesterday was the culmination of all the recent frustration we have felt regarding team selection & substitutions when things are not going to plan. Hence the criticism of the management.
Bill Shankly once famously said, 'Football is a simple game, complicated by fools!' Newport followed his advice.

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Just watched the 'highlights' from yesterday's game, if you can call them that! The only saving grace (apart from Donacien's peach of a goal) is that despite their win, Newport & Westley remain bottom of the league - would never usually wish relegation on any team but there's always an exception to the rule & I would love to witness that slimy toad take Newport down, long way to go I know but one can dream

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That was Paul Ince wasn't it?

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Unless these two in charge seriously look at their team selection and stop picking a team based on favouritism rather than form/performance this situation isn't going to improve. I can imagine how it must feel for the other members of the squad never getting a chance week after week. It's a bloody joke.

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I will be more than surprised if the blue eyed boys aint playing.

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KTF,bit harsh that!.
When Acci hold the ball up for players to run off them,were as good as any team in the league.
Lads will have to work hard to cover Billy's absence and it won't be easy,hard player to replace and we are at our best when he's on his game.
4-2-3-1 setup got us to the playoffs and 20 points this season,it's the players that need to up their game.
We did go 3 at the back to get more men forward and conceded another straight away.

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KTF is not being harsh at all in my view, hes saying it how he and many others see it.was a cartload around us yesterday saying exactly the same.

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Coincidentally it's a cup game next so I think there would have been changes anyway so not so cut and dried if changes are made and we get hammered back to norm week after,?

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F.A. Cup match andyd, which is the "Big" un. the strongest side should play surely?

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I suspect Lord Rochdale may have a different opinion.:rolleyes:

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I agree with your comments F19 regarding Billy and the 4-2-3-1 set up.

The point I'm making isn't about that, it's about certain individuals being selected from a large squad of players week in week out regardless of form or previous match performance.

The message being sent out to these players suggests to them they are indispensable and doesn't give the other squad members a cat in hells chance of getting a game. There should always be competition within a squad encouraging players to show they are the best man for the job.

I suspect next Saturday we will see changes to the starting line up as it's a cup game, but the week after at home to Stevenage it'll be back to the same old favourites.

Yesterday we saw certain players giving their whole and wanting to take something from the game. For once the MOM selection was spot on, but on the other hand we saw certain individuals just going through the motions to say the least. It was pathetic, I'm not naming names, we all know who these players are.

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Thinking about it, you may be right!!

After all these years, I've been doing Westley wrong!!

Poor lamb, as another poster might say!!

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The attempted trip on Andy Mangan was indeed Paul Ince during a game at Macclesfield who he was managing at the time, you might've mixed up the name of the culprit Kitchener but not so much their characters, Ince was another nasty piece of work

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How far away that halcyon day at the London Stadium seems. Yet we have the same players, the same management team and I hope the same passion for our club. I was amazed at the performance we put in yesterday, no vision, no midfield general, no urgency when we went 2-0 down. There is obviously a lot more work to do around rebuilding and gelling the team and getting back the focus but the raw material is there it just needs refining. One of the first changes I would suggest would be to stop playing one up front as has already been said and get back to a stronger 4-4-2 or even 4-3-3 set up.

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It was against Macclesfield when Mr. Ince was manager but not at Macclesfield. It was, if my memory serves me correctly, at the Crown Ground/Interlink Express/Fraser Eagle stadium or whatever it was called at the time.

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It was definitely away at Macclesfield. Mangan scored a late goal in a 3-3 draw.

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Correct - I was there, remember it well.

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Yep, that's how I remember it - Mangan had scored our 3rd to equalise & as he was running to our dugout to celebrate Ince was on sideline & petulantly stuck his foot out - we were sat opposite in the stand & saw it clear as day, luckily so did Mangy & he managed to avoid tripping over it.
I think there was also some sort of altercation in the dugout when we played them at home towards the end of that season when our win over them secured us a second season in the league

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Did you mean AT Macclesfield or AGAINST??

Was definitely a home game, never been to Maccs!

PS,, you're right about the characters, that's probably why I got confused!!

Poor Westley, I've had this downer on him for so many years!!!!

Poor lamb!!

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Remember the incident well!

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Yes, but where??

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I'd lay odds on that 'tripgate' was at Macclesfield's ground but like I say there was also an incident involving that nice Mr. Ince during the home fixture

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In my mind it was the 3-3 draw at Moss Rose. The same game Leighton McGivern scored an overhead kick. Whatever happened to him!!

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Wasn't it during that game that Ince, who was a total failure as a Manager, and his Assistant at the time Ray Matthias ...another nasty individual who should never have been allowed anywhere near a Football ground, verbally abused Harwood Red ?..or am I mistaken ?.

Their atrocious posturing and spoiling antics on the touchline during the game were atrocious, although, and again I could be wrong, resulted in JC being sent to the Stand by the Referee !

There will perhaps be, deep in the annals of our Forum reports on all this, due to the fact that it did cause a furore here at the time !.

Not an occasion for Soccer to be proud of !.

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At Macclesfield. Stanley fans were at the opposite side of the ground facing the dug out. I remember at later games we were placed behind the goal.

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I remember Ince walking past Eric Whalley whilst being interviewed on the TV documentary and Eric commented "there he is, Billy Big B****cks"

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You're not mistaken Alan, HR was verbally abused by Ince just after the game - nasty little man!!
And the ructions during the game were because one of our players, Leam Richardson I think, accidentally slid into Matthias knocking him over & both Ince & his sidekick retaliated causing a free for all in the dugout

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Last seen at Alty I believe - a few years ago though, doubt he's still playing - funnily enough it was another incident at Macc that could've ended his career there & then, he was tackled & got his ankle broken - I remember the poor lad was rolling round in agony for what seemed like forever before the ref decided to get him some attention, he was eventually taken to hospital from the ground.

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There was a similar incident at The Crown when Paul Inces assistant blocked Leam Richardson taking a quick throw in when we played MK Dons and it all got heated?

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Leighton McGivern overhead kick away at Macc 2006, ankle broken seconds later

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Ince trip on Andy Mananagnan, same game

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Rumble in the dug out, Coley was sent off for his part. It was at home against MK Dons 07/08 season

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Now that's the game I think ì referred to previously..think there was snow or sleet on the touchline if I've got it right...at last ?.

Leam, in response retaliated by throwing the ball at Ince I think... intentionally ?, well only Leam would know the answer to that one !.

Anyway it doesn't alter the fact that Ince and Matthias behaved like the couple of I'll mannered louts on that occasion !.

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Thanks Rob for the image !...sorts my aged mind out for me !. So there was no snow or sleet on the ground after all !.

But what a real pair of mindless idiots Ince and Matthias really were !.

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Cheers Macca, I knew some statty would sort out what happened where & when :)

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Hmmmmm.........
Like Kitchener I was so disappointed by Saturday's performance that I decided not to attempt making any comments for a couple of days!:(

Before the match I was predicting a 0-0 draw based on our recent good defence and on the fact that we have simply lacked fire power up front!
The match started with us playing Terry Gornell on his own up front in what appeared to be a 4-5-1 formation which just reinforced my doubts about our inability to score! However, I don't accept the comments that some of our players were not trying on Saturday. It was just difficult for some of them to perform from within the selected formation.
For me the first half was simply a dull affair! We seemed to be in control defensively as Newport hardly got near our goalmouth and we played our usual passing game from the keeper and forward through the defence and Captain Coneely. However, beyond a few yards over the half way line we were just as inept as Newport had been!
Immediately after the restart we once again fell foul of our inability to defend an opposing break away after being in an attacking position! I do think though that their lad who scored the first goal deserves a lot of credit as he ran swiftly and glided round Vyner in the style that Chris Eagles used to do for Burnley in his heyday! The lad finished his move with a super shot hit viciously just inside the post. Perhaps Parish could/should have done better in narrowing the angle? (I was at the opposite end of the ground so a bit difficult to judge that one?) We lost confidence and of course Newport's confidence grew!
The second goal was down to defensive errors and slack marking! After that, the game from our point of view was a disaster!
I cannot understand why we play with a lone attacker at home against opposition who we are expected to beat! Lord Stiffly rightly quotes Bill Shankly about the game being 'Simple' and all this talk of differing formations is just nonsense to me. In the modern game to me it is simple...Each team has a goal keeper and then 10 other players on the pitch who should attempt to cover as much of the playing area as is possible, getting forward when in possession and retreating to help defend when not in possession....... So when under pressure with opponents in possession the formation becomes a defensive 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 but as soon as possession is regained and the team should move forward into a 2-4-4 or even 2-3-5. This is based an a central spine of two central defenders, two central midfield players and TWO UP FRONT as well! The two full backs and wingers have to be the ones with more dynamic ability to get up and down the pitch. In attack then the front 5 would be made up of TWO players up front in the middle, two wingers and a surging player from midfield running in behind the two up front! I am clearly talking an attacking philosophy here but I don't see it from Stanley. I am still waiting this season for Sean Mac to attempt to take a full back on down the outside. Now I know that Sean is basically right footed and he he is regularly played on the left side of the field but he is so predictable that he has become easy to play against! Those who know me will know that my favourite move is when a winger on either wing gets round his opposing full back, into the penalty box with the aim of getting to the goal line towards the six yard box. This small part of the pitch is what I consider to be 'The Golden Spot' on the pitch! From here the flying winger pulls the ball back towards the penalty spot leaving the opposing goal keeper and central defenders powerless and presents the ball to our players coming into the penalty box with the goal at their mercy! What we seem to do is get into the opponents half and then pump diagonal crosses from deep (so often over hit!) to a lone striker. (Terry is off side far too often in this situation as well!) The opposing central defenders just love it! Of course what I suggest sounds simple and is hard to achieve but we never ever seem to attempt to get the ball into this area!
On Saturday I struggled to understand the selection from the start of Terry as alone striker and the persistent choice of Sean Mac who has been ineffective for most of the matches that I have seen this season. I value loyalty very highly in life but perhaps Coley is just being too loyal for the good of the team and the paying supporters with these two lads.....I don't know? I understood even less the substitutions in the second half. For me both of the above should have been replaced by Taylor Fletcher and Boco. I was nonplussed too by the replacement of Vyner from his attacking full back position by a forward, (Shay), leaving us with three at the back which created a totally unbalanced formation. Johnno should have stayed on too as he had been far more threatening than Sean Mac. Shay struggled to find a position in the now over crowded forward formation and we totally lost our shape and left ourselves exposed to the possibilty of conceding more goals. Late in the match Newport actually found even more freedom in attack and managed to get players several times into that 'Golden Spot' described and duly scored a third goal and could have had a couple more! Our team is crying out for two up front and two wingers willing to get round the outside of the full backs.
Call me naive but it seems a simple football philosophy to me to compliment a good defence with a positive attacking system higher up the pitch.
For the supporters too we would be entertained far more!
The atmosphere was very flat on Saturday even in the Clayton End and I was disappointed to see some of our supporters leaving early and even more disappointed to hear so much negativity.
Oh for some positivity from somewhere please.....
As true Stanley supporters we all need to ........
KEEP THE FAITH
Things will improve I am sure......
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

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A damn good summary choirboy, though we stand in different sections of the clayton end, everyone around us had come to the same conclusion. but dont go too far or yeh will get blanked like me @ Malcolm the Mole, its a perogative of people but very childish in my view. Things i fear though will not improve that much unless the management change the tactics.

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I think it would be a start if there was at least more than the one 'system', certainly for home games.

Here's an interesting quote taken from last Saturday's I newspaper:
...substitutions continue to baffle. He only ever tinkers with personnel, rarely the system. The faces change but not the way we play. We are far too predictable. Other teams have worked us out and know what they have to do to nullify us."

Sound familiar? It was from a Pompey fan writing about the Snake.

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I vote Choirboy as our next manager!
As an old codger, I'm old enough to remember back when nowt but a lad, football had only one system
1 goalkeeper, 2 defenders, 3 half backs & 5 forwards!
Oh for the days when Gary Roberts sped down the wing at the speed of light to place an inch perfect cross onto Paul Mullins bald head! 1-0 'SIMPLES!
:D

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Looking at the photo gallery on the Fishy site confirms something that has crossed my mind. How about playing Donacien, big, strong, skilful and brave, in the attacking midfield role? We need some of the thrust that Mr.Crooks, once his most effective position had been found, provided last season. Just a thought.

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Exile - sounds like a good idea to me

Choirboy - if only it were so simple everyone would be speeding down wings, putting crosses in from the bye line etc etc. Personally, I think it just takes more movement from our players and snappier passing. I think we have the players to do it (although Vyner's passing looks poor to me). We demonstrate this when we fall a goal behind often, our sense of urgency increases and Boco is on the pitch rather someone less mobile like Terry G.

Again, easier said than done.

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The players were great vs Crawley and poor vs Newport.

I'm certain John Coleman will be drilling them in training that the performance and result was unacceptable and if they want to be the next Josh Windass or Matty Crooks then they need to start performing regularly to a high level for Accrington.

We go again

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Lord D, I beg to differ.
I am regularly amazed by the 'system' which sees 20 outfield players all packed into one side of the field, following the ball like schoolboys, whilst the other half is virtually empty.
McConville gets plenty of stick, but there have been numerous occasions when he stands ignored in acres of space, while nobody has the nous to make that killer pass.
The reason 'wingers' are out of favour goes back to the 60's-70's when fashionable managers decided that the first priority was not to get beat! Hence your 'flat back fours', your 5-3-2-1 formations etc.
What is simpler? Taking 10-15 passes, often sideways & backwards before you get from your goal to theirs, or 1 simple pass to a fast skilful winger who can make rapid progress.
Leicester won the Premiership with a bargain basement squad by adopting a fast simple game. They didn't spend all day passing about at the back, but hit teams on the break with one or two fast players, often down the wing.
As many have said previously, football is in the entertainment business. What fans want to see are goals, not a battle of attrition between 'systems' designed to nullify the opposition. I'd rather see Stanley win 5-4, than 1-0.
At the moment we're thankful for a draw.

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Yeh can train from now till the cows come home Dav, if yer instructed to play a system that aint suitable, and the rest of the league is well aware of, then the chances of performing well regularly aint the best, surely even you can suss that one out.last season we had different players

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Don't think there's nothing wrong with system,but it is more effective when counter.
attacking
Couple of things that did jump out on Saturday was the reluctance of our two holding players to spring forward (crooked excelled at this) and the lad playing off terry struggled to find space and link play (windass was excellent at this)
Add piero,Halliday to these and maybe we've lost a bit of pace which we had last year.
At home we could try just one holding player and go 4-1-4-1 worth a try

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With the players we now got, that system to me is useless especially at home.how many games at home this season have we looked like a damn good side?

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I didn't suggest that it would be easy to include this in our play but that we never try to include it in our play. It would need a good supply from passes from the back and through midfield but then a commitment by wingers with the skill to beat a defender or two to give it a try occasionally. I too would rather see us win or draw a game with 4, 5 or 6 goals scored than a one goal win or a dull scoreless draw resulting from a war of attrition!:jimbo:

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Jordan Clark was signed on the basis of games behind closed doors for certain other clubs. Guess where he played ? Wide left. Guess who put one in the top corner for Bury in a pre season friendly against Accrington when cutting in from the left ? Jordan Clark.
Coley has shown massive faith in Sean but I have to say having watched you home and away most of the season I'm surprised.
Also away performances have been far better than home. That I think is down to the system which works ok away - but at home ?
Two up top at home has to be the answer with good delivery from the wings.

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Not a bad idea but which two????

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I would suggest Boco @ Kee if fit, McCarten if not, woulda tried Hazeldine, but theve shut him.

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Well well........I got slated on here for talking about systems and playing 4-4-2 at home last season......at last some of you have seen the light! Hallelujah! 😉

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Most who advocate a better system have always thought that.;) not to worry, the clowns are still in the circus.:D

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2 Cup games on the spin, plenty of changes to come.... before Luton in FL2....

:) :) :)

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does anyone know if we,ve got permission for our players we,ve got on loan from their parent clubs to play in the f.a. cup.

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I heard on the radio that could be why we are short on defenders.

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Looks like O Sullivan hasn't been allowed permission ??? Unless he has a knock?

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donecien, wyner and osullivan all inured according to Dan

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Donacian and Vyner definately weren't injured when I saw them both in Hyndburn gym mid-week.

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Doesn't mean they didn't get injured in the latter part of the week

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Donacien is ours anyway so wasnt rested on advice from a parent club.

Ronnie was subbed injured last week so thats probably fair enough