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AccyMad 07-01-2017 11:10

Re: Morecambe
 
Is it ironic that in the midst of all that's going on they're today playing Notts County who had a similar thing happen a few years ago, some foreign 'investor' waltzed in & persuaded them he could give them the world - even went so far as to bring in Sven Goran Eriksson & sign Sol Campbell, all based on false promises as the money just wasn't there but the damage he did left them in millions of poundsworth of debt

monkey hanger 08-01-2017 08:08

Re: Morecambe
 
notts county are still a mess off the field but seems to have grown to on field problems. they look a complete shambles at least morecambe will give it everything on the pitch. notts county to follow lord didsbury,s local side into oblivion.

baldy 23-01-2017 08:48

Re: Morecambe
 
Rather them than us, Such a mess!

Morecambe Mess: Football Club In Chaos - The Bay

stanleyhouse 23-01-2017 10:03

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1186177)
Rather them than us, Such a mess!

Morecambe Mess: Football Club In Chaos - The Bay

But that was us! ......and we came through it.

AccyMad 23-01-2017 10:13

Re: Morecambe
 
Horrific as it was for us at least it was a little simpler, we owed the taxman money & if we couldn't pay that would've been curtains. Ok, we had certain individuals at the time trying to pull the wool over our eyes as to what was going on but it looks a lot more complicated up the road - all sorts coming out now & goodness knows how they'll unravel the mess
Genuinely hope they come out the other side as we did

accybeme 23-01-2017 11:58

Re: Morecambe
 
I see one of the potential saviors Joseph Cala has pulled back from making an offer news taken from the BBC Morecambe: Joseph Cala ends potential takeover talks - BBC Sport

AccyMad 23-01-2017 12:30

Re: Morecambe
 
With Cala's history they're better off without that particular vulture circling

monkey hanger 23-01-2017 12:53

Re: Morecambe
 
would have been out of the fire and into the frying pan with another foreign owner. need a local guy like us which is the only way forward for a club like morecambe.

maccawozzagod 23-01-2017 16:02

Re: Morecambe
 
I honestly think that when the brown stuff hits the fan the local authorities should be able to seize control in much the same way as they can seize derelict property.

It's not a great solution but is one solution, after all, football clubs truly belong to the fans. The only other genuine solution is for Fan groups to save enough money up and then hoard it until such time as a buy out is necessary. As things stand we are likely to be the cheapest club around but could we raise and hoard £2m?

monkey hanger 24-01-2017 08:51

Re: Morecambe
 
It's not a great solution but is one solution, after all, football clubs truly belong to the fans. The only other genuine solution is for Fan groups to save enough money up and then hoard it until such time as a buy out is necessary. As things stand we are likely to be the cheapest club around but could we raise and hoard £2m?[/QUOTE]

no chance. we and morecambe probebly could raise a few thousand but its a drop in the ocean for whats needed. some struggle nowadays to find the money to go to a game never mind spending anything else. the heart might be willing but the pocket isn,t.

st06nc2 24-01-2017 14:20

Re: Morecambe
 
Just seen this morning Carlisle have started a fan fundraising page to help them sign a new player as chairman can't afford any more signings

cashman 24-01-2017 14:45

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1186248)
Just seen this morning Carlisle have started a fan fundraising page to help them sign a new player as chairman can't afford any more signings

Well its better position than us!! we cant afford to buy in the first place i reckon.

st06nc2 27-01-2017 10:46

Re: Morecambe
 
Cala has took over at Morecambe

AccyMad 27-01-2017 11:18

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1186340)
Cala has took over at Morecambe

God help 'em!! Obviously Peter McGuiness isn't too fussy who he sells to :rolleyes:

st06nc2 27-01-2017 12:38

Re: Morecambe
 
Players and staff not been paid again

baldy 27-01-2017 13:03

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1186340)
Cala has took over at Morecambe

Where's that announced?

He's only agreed to out some money in, just like he agreed to put money into an Italian club but was kicked out after 11 days for not coming up with the funds...

Morecambe_Red 27-01-2017 13:27

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1186345)
Where's that announced?

He's only agreed to out some money in, just like he agreed to put money into an Italian club but was kicked out after 11 days for not coming up with the funds...

Nobody injects money into a football club unless they are buying it.

Board meeting in progress so maybe more news later.

There's never a dull day !!

st06nc2 27-01-2017 13:50

Re: Morecambe
 
They might wanna check the money's real with his past

maccawozzagod 27-01-2017 17:16

Re: Morecambe
 
Cala?

Look forward to our benefit game with youse!

AccyMad 27-01-2017 17:23

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1186345)
Where's that announced?

He's only agreed to out some money in, just like he agreed to put money into an Italian club but was kicked out after 11 days for not coming up with the funds...

Similar to what he did at Portsmouth then . . . . . .:)

st06nc2 27-01-2017 18:09

Re: Morecambe
 
Just been officially announced he has agreed to take over the club

cashman 27-01-2017 18:13

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1186368)
Just been officially announced he has agreed to take over the club

Poor Morecambe.

st06nc2 27-01-2017 18:21

Re: Morecambe
 
Out of the frying pan straight into the fire R.I.P. MFC

AccyMad 27-01-2017 18:33

Re: Morecambe
 
Can't see him passing the fit & proper person's test but who knows - seems these days as long as someone has a pulse that's enough for the football league

baldy 27-01-2017 18:46

Re: Morecambe
 
https://twitter.com/bbclancssport/st...48527688564738

Rivalry aside a do feel quite sorry for the real fans and people at Morecambe!

Morecambe_Red 27-01-2017 20:53

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1186372)
Can't see him passing the fit & proper person's test but who knows - seems these days as long as someone has a pulse that's enough for the football league

The Oystons , The Venkys and Stephen Vaughan passed that. The bar is set very low !

cashman 28-01-2017 07:24

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1186376)
The Oystons , The Venkys and Stephen Vaughan passed that. The bar is set very low !

it certainly is, hope you folk dont suffer fer that fact.

maccawozzagod 28-01-2017 08:40

Re: Morecambe
 
I think you were set up from the very beginning by Cala.

Unknown Brazilian sets up company to acquire MFC
G250 purchase club using Agreement of Sale rather than actual cash.
Brazilian disappears and another guy transfers ownership of G250 to a Geordie chap under remote rules of Brazilian being unavailable
G250 then agrees to sell itself (including the football club) to Cala

Somewhere in the middle of all this the leisure company owned by previous (or current) FC owner goes into liquidation, taking with it some of the debt of the FC. Presumably this will be bought from the administrators, debt free and at a fraction of its value, by the Newco.

It wouldnt surprise me if Cala was involved right from the beginning and the Brazilian was just a puppet all along

monkey hanger 28-01-2017 09:44

Re: Morecambe
 
don,t trust the sods at all. would hate stanley to ever go down the line of foreign ownership no matter what happens in the future. would be the end for me and the club as we know it.

Morecambe_Red 28-01-2017 12:02

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1186402)
I think you were set up from the very beginning by Cala.

Unknown Brazilian sets up company to acquire MFC
G250 purchase club using Agreement of Sale rather than actual cash.
Brazilian disappears and another guy transfers ownership of G250 to a Geordie chap under remote rules of Brazilian being unavailable
G250 then agrees to sell itself (including the football club) to Cala

Somewhere in the middle of all this the leisure company owned by previous (or current) FC owner goes into liquidation, taking with it some of the debt of the FC. Presumably this will be bought from the administrators, debt free and at a fraction of its value, by the Newco.

It wouldnt surprise me if Cala was involved right from the beginning and the Brazilian was just a puppet all along


There's a few theories about and yours is one that has been mentioned.

Calas was interested back in the Summer and then he said the MFC board had decided to go with Diego. It could all have been a cunning plan because he will certainly not have paid very much. In the end we had no choice but go with him.

maccawozzagod 28-01-2017 13:10

Re: Morecambe
 
As things stand Morecambe Red, i think you're out of time and options and HAVE to take his bid and hope the EFL approve him. Its quite clear that G250 arent going to be paying the bills and I doubt PMG and co would be willing - especially after some of the criticism levelled their way recently.

My thoughts would be towards the future and developing as strong a Trust as possible in readiness for the inevitable battles to come.

We know all too well what damage can be sustained by a complicated off field battle, but at least ours was relatively straight forward. Good luck with it all, I've said many times in the past that many of us have, and will, stand shoulder to shoulder with you and I stand by that.

Even if you're in the Conference by then :rolleyes:

accybeme 28-01-2017 13:38

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1186376)
The Oystons , The Venkys and Stephen Vaughan passed that. The bar is set very low !

it was rumoured that the Venkys didn't know that clubs could be relegated from the Premier league, has anyone informed Cala that clubs can be relegated from the football league

Morecambe_Red 28-01-2017 16:07

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1186415)
As things stand Morecambe Red, i think you're out of time and options and HAVE to take his bid and hope the EFL approve him. Its quite clear that G250 arent going to be paying the bills and I doubt PMG and co would be willing - especially after some of the criticism levelled their way recently.

My thoughts would be towards the future and developing as strong a Trust as possible in readiness for the inevitable battles to come.

We know all too well what damage can be sustained by a complicated off field battle, but at least ours was relatively straight forward. Good luck with it all, I've said many times in the past that many of us have, and will, stand shoulder to shoulder with you and I stand by that.

Even if you're in the Conference by then :rolleyes:


I agree , no choice but accept Calas Corporation as the new owners. It wasn't the Conference that was looming , it was way back to the start in 8th or 9th tier.

baldy 31-01-2017 14:06

Re: Morecambe
 
Pay day today and apparently none of the staff have been paid!

st06nc2 31-01-2017 15:35

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1186578)
Pay day today and apparently none of the staff have been paid!

Was payday about a week ago and they wernt paid then either

AccyMad 31-01-2017 15:41

Re: Morecambe
 
Oh dear, it gets worse - Cala had promised the funds would be available today, looks like someone was telling porkies

stanleyhouse 31-01-2017 16:15

Re: Morecambe
 
End of January pay day is the easiest to sort as you've just been sent your solidarity payment. If you can't pay January's you've no chance of paying Feb, Mar, Apr etc. I think even we managed to pay January's.
Maybe they're using the payment to repay debts/ loans etc.
Also best time to invest in a club just before these payments are due..... get my drift

maccawozzagod 31-01-2017 16:19

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1186580)
Oh dear, it gets worse - Cala had promised the funds would be available today, looks like someone was telling porkies


If Cala isnt going to get the club then he isnt going to pay the wages!

There seems to be a lot of Ifs, Buts and Maybes before he gets his mitts on the club.

AccyMad 31-01-2017 16:47

Re: Morecambe
 
Been on radio lancs that non playing staff have been paid from existing club funds but no new funding has come in - they're presuming there'll have to be another loan from the PFA for the players wages

Chrisr 31-01-2017 17:26

Re: Morecambe
 
This is a dreadful situation. These days the FA should never allow a club to get into this state without early intervention.

Exile on Spencer St 31-01-2017 18:04

Re: Morecambe
 
Your assuming the FA give a flying fig for any club, Chrisr, or could do anything about the financial madness that is professional football even if it wanted to.

cashman 31-01-2017 18:34

Re: Morecambe
 
The F.A. chrisr do exactly what the initials stand for.;)

Mr T 31-01-2017 19:43

Re: Morecambe
 
Sadly nowt to do with the FA.

The EFL allow and sanction all takeovers.

Sadly this one appears to gone "not just right"

There by the "grace of God and EW" ( john batchulor/ Lancashire Utd)

stanleyhouse 31-01-2017 21:15

Re: Morecambe
 
And the attempts that we fended off when I was director.
Some too close to comfort, all to be included in the book I'm gonna write ....,. One day......including the coup attempt to overthrow MrT .

st06nc2 31-01-2017 22:17

Re: Morecambe
 
If they're struggling now they're stuffed in the off season

st06nc2 01-02-2017 11:22

Re: Morecambe
 
Still no indication as to when the players will be paid

baldy 01-02-2017 12:06

Re: Morecambe
 
By the sound of it all their Eggs are in Cala's basket, but he won't pay wages until his group have passed the fit and proper test and all the old board resign from the board!

Worryingly is Cala hasn't got the best record at football clubs and surely if he was confident of passing the fit and proper test he would put money in now to start off on the right foot and show he has good intentions?

Exile on Spencer St 01-02-2017 12:13

Re: Morecambe
 
It's his intentions that may be the problem.

st06nc2 01-02-2017 12:22

Re: Morecambe
 
There is an injunction threatening G50 Holdings the controlling company of Morecambe FC, which could effectively 'freeze' the company and prevent the sale of any shares

monkey hanger 02-02-2017 08:30

Re: Morecambe
 
[QUOTE=baldy;1186644]By the sound of it all their Eggs are in Cala's basket, but he won't pay wages until his group have passed the fit and proper test and all the old board resign from the board!
looks like he,s trying to blackmail the f.a. into accepting him no matter what. why does our game attract these sort of people god knows.

st06nc2 02-02-2017 16:16

Re: Morecambe
 
If you search for mr Carla's company in Google (Cala corporation) it shows the opening times of the company as permanently closed

maccawozzagod 02-02-2017 22:45

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1186700)
If you search for mr Carla's company in Google (Cala corporation) it shows the opening times of the company as permanently closed

it'll fit in well with the rest of Morecambe then ... :rolleyes:

st06nc2 03-02-2017 14:32

Re: Morecambe
 
A graham burnard has come out and said he owns Morecambe and not mr lemos and he will not be selling to Cala, anybody else own them?

AccyMad 03-02-2017 16:01

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1186784)
A graham burnard has come out and said he owns Morecambe and not mr lemos and he will not be selling to Cala, anybody else own them?

Think at the moment it's more like who doesn't own a piece of Morecambe FC?!
What a mess - hope it can be sorted but at this rate, time's not gonna be on their side - feel so sorry for their fans, worrying times

Exile on Spencer St 03-02-2017 18:05

Re: Morecambe
 
The link in Baldy's post 103 explains where this Mr. Burnard sprang from. What a mess.

st06nc2 03-02-2017 18:10

Re: Morecambe
 
Graham Burnard has not got a great history. As of 2014 he's twice been declared bankrupt and forged his dying father's signature in a family feud over the family's estate

monkey hanger 04-02-2017 08:16

Re: Morecambe
 
morecambe,s finance sounds like an agatha christie mystery. would need all the talants of miss marple and hercule piorot to sort out the real truth.

Morecambe_Red 07-02-2017 18:15

Re: Morecambe
 
Anyone at a loose end on Saturday , the Shrimps are at home to Cambridge United and Skybet are paying for every spectator to have an award winning pie and a pint(or soft drink) on them.
There you are , about £6 in food and drink free !

st06nc2 07-02-2017 22:31

Re: Morecambe
 
Morecambe players have now been paid

Morecambe_Red 08-02-2017 01:12

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1187007)
Morecambe players have now been paid

And a win 1-0 at Leyton Orient. Its looking like light at the end of the tunnel :theband:

AccyMad 08-02-2017 05:58

Re: Morecambe
 
Glad that everyone's been paid at last, we've been in that position & our lads seemed to adopt almost a seige mentality similar to how your lot seem to be.
Good luck with the rest of it, hope it can be sorted & you can get rid of the vultures flocking around your club & come out the other side (of course when you do all this lovey dovey, best of pals stuff will revert back to the usual banter:))

P.s. - thanks for the favour of keeping Orient 5 points behind us :)

maccawozzagod 08-02-2017 07:41

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1187015)
Glad that everyone's been paid at last, we've been in that position & our lads seemed to adopt almost a seige mentality similar to how your lot seem to be.


And therein lies the answer as to why they keep signing ex Stanley players ... experience of not getting paid :rolleyes:

monkey hanger 08-02-2017 07:58

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1186990)
Anyone at a loose end on Saturday , the Shrimps are at home to Cambridge United and Skybet are paying for every spectator to have an award winning pie and a pint(or soft drink) on them.
There you are , about £6 in food and drink free !

thanks morecambe red. doing nothing saturday and my days of travelling over 500 miles to watch a game of football are well and truly over. might give it a go weather permitting.

AccyMad 08-02-2017 08:51

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1187018)
And therein lies the answer as to why they keep signing ex Stanley players ... experience of not getting paid :rolleyes:

It's probably on their cv :D

AccyMad 17-02-2017 14:25

Re: Morecambe
 
It seems that the courts have now decided who actually owns Morecambe FC, good news eh?

Well it might be if the new owner's company wasn't currently being investigated by Durham police for fraud! You couldn't make it up - lots more unravelling to be done before the mess is sorted by the looks of things

VALAIRIAN 17-02-2017 15:25

Re: Morecambe
 
Who is it?? :)

AccyMad 17-02-2017 15:52

Re: Morecambe
 
Mr. Burnard, company is G50 Holdings based in north east somewhere. Sounds a terribly nice chap - previously been declared bankrupt twice, was in charge if Bedlington Terriers when they went bust & allegedly forged his dying father's signature in order to receive money from a will - lovely!

cashman 17-02-2017 16:01

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1187710)
Mr. Burnard, company is G50 Holdings based in north east somewhere. Sounds a terribly nice chap - previously been declared bankrupt twice, was in charge if Bedlington Terriers when they went bust & allegedly forged his dying father's signature in order to receive money from a will - lovely!

OMG someone like that should own Satanage only.

Morecambe_Red 18-02-2017 17:42

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1187711)
OMG someone like that should own Satanage only.


It is a mess and it goes back to the high court on 29/30 March.

Mr Burnard is an accountant/Tax adviser. Abdul is a client of his and in the last 4 months or so he has put £400,000 into Morecambe FC ! Diego has not put a penny in and yet is claiming he owns us !!

Its just amazing and a great credit to Jim Bentley with all this circus going on around him that we are now 6 points off the play-offs with 2 games in hand on them !

Exile on Spencer St 18-02-2017 17:57

Re: Morecambe
 
Your team and manager are showing these money jerk-offs just what football is about. Hope you can see all the idiots off your backs.

VALAIRIAN 18-02-2017 18:00

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1187811)
It is a mess and it goes back to the high court on 29/30 March.

Mr Burnard is an accountant/Tax adviser. Abdul is a client of his and in the last 4 months or so he has put £400,000 into Morecambe FC ! Diego has not put a penny in and yet is claiming he owns us !!

Its just amazing and a great credit to Jim Bentley with all this circus going on around him that we are now 6 points off the play-offs with 2 games in hand on them !

Just remember who one of those games in hand is against.... ;)

:) :) :)

Glad you are riding through it MR :)

Morecambe_Red 21-02-2017 21:38

Re: Morecambe
 
We salvaged a point against "Medal Winner" Westley's Newport County tonight with a 2nd half equaliser to keep them bottom :hehetable

AccyMad 22-02-2017 05:46

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1188128)
We salvaged a point against "Medal Winner" Westley's Newport County tonight with a 2nd half equaliser to keep them bottom :hehetable

For which we & all of the decent minded football community thank you - long may they stay there ;)

st06nc2 16-05-2017 16:58

Re: Morecambe
 
BREAKING: Brazilian businessman, Diego Lemos misses a court deadline in the disputed ownership of Morecambe FC (@ShrimpsOfficial)

st06nc2 16-05-2017 16:58

Re: Morecambe
 
2/3
A judge said Mr Lemos had to pay more than £86k in costs by 5pm today but @BBCLancashire understands no money has been paid. #SHRIMPS

Exile on Spencer St 16-05-2017 19:37

Re: Morecambe
 
Shrimps website has official statement that Lemos's claims have been dismissed and Graham Burnard, apparently acting for Al-Hashami, is now the sole owner of G50 Holdings, which owns majority of shares. Life goes on in the murky world of football finances. Glad for Morecambe fans that they have something to watch next season.

AccyMad 16-05-2017 19:47

Re: Morecambe
 
Don't think they're out of the woods yet, this is the same Mr.Burnard who's been declared bankrupt twice & has been at the centre of other dodgy dealings, think best they can hope for is that he doesn't really want to own the club & finds a decent buyer for it sooner rather than later

st06nc2 16-05-2017 20:06

Re: Morecambe
 
Mr burnard and lemos are working together it's all a conspiracy

Exile on Spencer St 16-05-2017 21:14

Re: Morecambe
 
Everything's a conspiracy in football
Here's a link to Morecambe's statement; make of it what you will.
Graham Burnard sole director of G50 Holdings Ltd

st06nc2 17-05-2017 05:59

Re: Morecambe
 
Originally at company's house him and lemos were directors of g50 holdings, somethings fishy and it's not the Morecambe air

monkey hanger 17-05-2017 08:28

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1194391)
Mr burnard and lemos are working together it's all a conspiracy

fit and proper person test. believe that you,ll believe in the tooth fairy and unicorns trotting past the wham. what a mess our game has become off the field. seems another clubs name crops up every month or so with owners trying there best to use the system and treating fans with utter contempt.

cashman 17-05-2017 08:36

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1194402)
fit and proper person test. believe that you,ll believe in the tooth fairy and unicorns trotting past the wham. what a mess our game has become off the field. seems another clubs name crops up every month or so with owners trying there best to use the system and treating fans with utter contempt.

Spot on sunshine,i personally think a fiddles going on with this vetting, based on the fact, nobodys that stupid.!!

Morecambe_Red 17-05-2017 13:10

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1194402)
fit and proper person test. believe that you,ll believe in the tooth fairy and unicorns trotting past the wham. what a mess our game has become off the field. seems another clubs name crops up every month or so with owners trying there best to use the system and treating fans with utter contempt.

Abdul has passed the "fit and proper" test. That must be a low bar though with Venkys and the Oystons passing it !

Abdul has this year put £1 million cash into Morecambe F.C.

The idea that is being floated about is that Abdul is going to make the club debt-free and also purchase back the 3G pitches etc that the administrator took from PMG Holdings. Then the club is to be sold to a more local person/consortium and will be in a much healthier state than it had been. The present directors are paying to have the rear of the home stand covered so that we don't stand in the rain with our pies !

cashman 17-05-2017 13:36

Re: Morecambe
 
Whatever happens hope yeh come through it.

Morecambe_Red 17-05-2017 16:21

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1194418)
Whatever happens hope yeh come through it.

Cheers , there does at last seem to be light at the end of the tunnel. Jim should get a medal for getting 15 points in February which meant we stayed up.

monkey hanger 18-05-2017 08:46

Re: Morecambe
 
jim like coley for us are not everyones cup of tea but both clubs would be in a far worse state without em.

Morecambe_Red 18-05-2017 09:00

Re: Morecambe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1194440)
jim like coley for us are not everyones cup of tea but both clubs would be in a far worse state without em.

Very true.

Peter Murphy and Liam Wakefield have just been released.


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