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maccawozzagod 10-05-2017 18:34

Re: Andy Holt
 
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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1194015)
He isn't on any of them I've listened



Its only a 41 minute segment of a 4 hour show :(

I thought he came across well in the interview but I had rxpected him to be in for a rough ride. The general feeling is a sympathetic one although nobody expects anything to change.

Ive a feeling this is going to run and run, and unfortunately there can only be one winner

Exile on Spencer St 10-05-2017 19:34

Re: Andy Holt
 
Didn't catch it all but they were blathering about the issue on Radio 5 Live just now.
The PL seem to assume that Andy Holt is demanding more money. But could his point be that, by constantly ramping up player wages, transfer fees, payments to agents, etc, etc, the knock on financial effect is crippling those outside the PL.
It's inevitable that some clubs will be wealthier than others, but that do the likes of MUFC etc need to inflate the cost of the entire game to stratospheric levels? (Bit like the cost of Mayfair houses knocking on the costs across London, then that inflating house prices across the country)
Is it because the big clubs are not clubs, as fans understand the term, that it's in their corporate financial interest to inflate the 'value' of their assets? So constantly upping the stakes is to their global business advantage.
Having said that, the PL has actually done well to distribute the TV money amongst all 20 of its current members. If it hadn't, by now there might have been a Global Premiership with franchised teams playing around the world with tourists for crowds and 'fans' paying to view online.
Heh ho, 'twas ever thus. 55 years ago it was a pittance (was it £65K?) that sank Stanley.

st06nc2 10-05-2017 19:50

Re: Andy Holt
 
We've a playing budget of 900k next year as announced by Andy holy, thats 400k more than usual

maccawozzagod 10-05-2017 20:20

Re: Andy Holt
 
At some point the fans, or the sky paying customers, will turn on them - when that happens there'll be holy hell paid with the medium to big clubs bleating for government handouts. Itv Digital flopping will be nothing compared to The Sky caving in

deeayess 10-05-2017 22:00

Re: Andy Holt
 
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1194025)
At some point the fans, or the sky paying customers, will turn on them - when that happens there'll be holy hell paid with the medium to big clubs bleating for government handouts. Itv Digital flopping will be nothing compared to The Sky caving in

Fans of the big clubs won't though and fans of the smaller clubs won't matter. I cancelled Skysports over 10 years ago and have never had BT sport and it's made no difference. Pubs pay silly money for it or people go elsewhere and people worldwide will always want to watch the big clubs due to the hype in the same way as people here also watch Barca or Real or Bayern to a lesser extent.

ITV digital flopped because they paid too much for Football League games that people didn't want to watch and those clubs suffered but it had no real effect on the Premiership.

We can wish the EPL to flop because we aren't part of it but that doesn't mean it will happen more's the pity. It's more likely that they will tell the EFL to sod off and that is where it will be a real cave in.

st06nc2 10-05-2017 22:15

Re: Andy Holt
 
With all the foreign players the EPL bring in, the EFL is the future or the national team, thus deserve more funding, without the lower league teams England wouldn't have players like vardy and smalling, even Joe hart started at Shrewsbury, we provide the future stars and we need more money to improve facilities and produce better stars

Lord Stiffupperlip 10-05-2017 23:02

Re: Andy Holt
 
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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1194029)
With all the foreign players the EPL bring in, the EFL is the future or the national team, thus deserve more funding, without the lower league teams England wouldn't have players like vardy and smalling, even Joe hart started at Shrewsbury, we provide the future stars and we need more money to improve facilities and produce better stars

Spot on St0zie!
Some Premiership teams barely feature a natural born Brit in their squad.
The idea of the PL was to allow the big city clubs to get even richer.
Without doubt it's been successful due to TV money, but most of the wealth generated has gone to pay for foreign players earning obscene wages.
Even the managers are now largely foreign.
Then so called football pundits moan about the lack of quality English born players & managers available to the national squad.
The PL seem to feel they are somehow divorced from the rest of the EFL, but football is still pyramid based with every league cherry-picking the best players, usually from a lower league.
League 2, and indeed even the Conference, are just as important to the welfare of English football as the PL.
Andy Holt has invested his own money keeping ASFC afloat. Why is his opinion any less important than say Jose Mourinho?

Mr T 11-05-2017 07:38

Re: Andy Holt
 
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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1194023)
We've a playing budget of 900k next year as announced by Andy holy, thats 400k more than usual

Andy's figure of £900k will be accurate as he's working with the figures.

The quote of £400k more than usual is totally incorrect!

accybeme 11-05-2017 12:29

Re: Andy Holt
 
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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1194023)
We've a playing budget of 900k next year as announced by Andy holy, thats 400k more than usual

not sure who Andy holy is, should it read Holy Andy

st06nc2 11-05-2017 14:29

Re: Andy Holt
 
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Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1194039)
Andy's figure of £900k will be accurate as he's working with the figures.

The quote of £400k more than usual is totally incorrect!

Sure this season he came out and said we was on a budget of half a million

Exile on Spencer St 11-05-2017 15:16

Re: Andy Holt
 
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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1194058)
Sure this season he came out and said we was on a budget of half a million

That was for the new pies. :rolleyes:


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