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Tin Monkey 18-12-2004 20:13

Dagenham
 
A very disappointing result against Dagenham today and one which should never have been.

Two defensive errors and a whole host of missed chances cost us 3 points today. I bet the Daggers couldn't believe their luck! :(

Match report has been on the official site for a couple of hours now, but I still can't believe the result. :o

Smiffy16 18-12-2004 20:20

Re: Dagenham
 
'Funny old game' is what Cookey said after the game and that sums it all up.

I cant believe how well we played today, our football was fantastic at time and our build up play is brilliant but we cant finish that is our problem.

The first half was fantastic we dominated everything but at the end of the half we had nothing to show from it. The second half we were CRAP.

If someone had said to me at half time that Dagenham would pf won the game 3-0 I would of hit them with my pitchfork the result was unbelievable.

To top it all off Mullers is injured and it doesn't look good maybe a broken foot by the way he was limping at telling us in the changing room after the game :(

Uncle Mick 18-12-2004 20:21

Re: Dagenham
 
Yep, another poor performance from Jekyll and Hyde Stanley this afternoon. First half we had all the possession and after their first goal we went to pieces. I don`t understand why we are so goal shy...lacking in confidence perhaps. Fair play to the Daggers, especially their defence which dealt with everything that was thrown into the box and Roberts who pulled off a few great saves, though it pains me to admit it. Still in sixth position though....but I`m not sure how

Tin Monkey 18-12-2004 20:24

Re: Dagenham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Mick
Still in sixth position though....but I`m not sure how

Without wishing to sound too pessimistic, if the teams below us win just one of their two games in hand, we'll be down to about 14th in the table.

To be honest, though, we don't really deserve to be any higher than that considering how we've played this season.

Smiffy16 18-12-2004 20:35

Re: Dagenham
 
Were not playing bad at the moment we just can't finish

Steven 18-12-2004 20:58

Re: Dagenham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Mick
...lacking in confidence perhaps.

How can we be laking in confidence last week we won 6-0 and in the mid-week friendly we also won with evil hiting four and i have to admit that today evil might as well have not turned up like i said a a fortnight ago after the loss to Carlise we are not willing to just whack the ball we have to be pretty and pass it into the net. we have nobody who will chuck them selves onto the ball to put it over the line

Baed news about mullin we have no chance of Scoring now!!!! Get better soon mully we need u

I hope we can turn this around for the halifax game after christmas


Merry Christmas and a Happy new year to everybody

rishton 18-12-2004 21:30

Re: Dagenham
 
First half we could have easliy been 2 or 3 up at half time but it is not the first time they have created changes, not taken them and then give away soft goals. the current form is more relgation form not play off form.

Smiffy16 18-12-2004 22:36

Re: Dagenham
 
a win 6-0 away from home is relegation form????

Ok then

Shurm 18-12-2004 23:01

Re: Dagenham
 
It is against Leigh hehehehe ;) Apart from Rory who we have missed we don't look that dangerous going forward,who ever takes a man on ?? Craney and Rory thats it Evil pushes a few out the way but doesn't have the pace to leave them,Mullin is a good target man and he does a good job but without support around him he's wasted.When we go a goal up were a different team its all down to confidence I think, we really need an early goal against most teams the longer the game goes on the less likely we seem to be able to finish a team off !!

Smiffy16 19-12-2004 09:27

Re: Dagenham
 
I think we need a 'Lutel' kind of player tp play up with Mullers someone who has got the speed and pace to run onto Mullers knock on's, Against pacey defenders we have no chance......

Hope Wozniak is this type of player

Seagull 19-12-2004 10:31

Re: Dagenham
 
Hopefully Mullers injury can give coleman the opportunity to try out some new options. Lets see what Tuck or Hindle can do.

Tin Monkey 19-12-2004 11:29

Re: Dagenham
 
When I commented on the 'way we've been palying', I was referring more to the inconsistancy than the actual quality of our play.

Yesterday the quality of some of the play was as good as I've seen anywhere this season, but the lack of finishing power is costing us week-in, week-out.

Paul Mullin is a legend at the Stanley, but maybe his injury will allow JC the opportunity to try new faces in the striking role?

I wonder if there's anything in the piggybank to bring in a new face?

LongLostSon 19-12-2004 12:28

Re: Dagenham
 
down south watching the scores come up on the bax, I was wondering what the cotton-picking blazes was going down at the interlink. Thanks for your report TM. Can't we surreptitiousy paint targets on the hoardings behind the goals ?

Steven 19-12-2004 12:42

Re: Dagenham
 
Jason that might be a good idea for a new flag what do you think and then hold them behing the goals

hehehehe

Smiffy16 19-12-2004 13:31

Re: Dagenham
 
I think if Mullers' injury is as bad as it looked yesterday we will need to bring in a new face for the striking role, Evil can play up yes but he's not the player who can hold the ball up and Damo and Tucker aren't either and they lack experience....

Maybe another loan signing?

baldy 19-12-2004 14:30

Re: Dagenham
 
It summed it up yesterday what strikeforce did we have on the bench
i so evil limping a couple of times and all this about mullers and we cant
bring lutel back theres only damo and tuck and there not really a target
men are they

whats the news on "Wozniak" has he signed are what

qualtrough 19-12-2004 15:11

Re: Dagenham
 
Shucks....more bad luck! Must have used up the good stuff last week against the mighty Leigh and Alsager (Who..?) More Colemanballs more like!

Smiffy16 19-12-2004 15:35

Re: Dagenham
 
Spoken to Mullers today his foot is a lot better today which is good news and he said its just bruised...

He's going for an X-Ray tomorrow

Steven 19-12-2004 17:01

Re: Dagenham
 
Ill be preying for that to be it all tonight then

Wynonie Harris 20-12-2004 08:56

Re: Dagenham
 
Let's face it, Coley must be somewhat hampered in his efforts to improve the situation by the limited budget that he presumably has to work with. If we were getting the sort of crowds that Hereford and Aldershot pull in, then he may have more scope, but considering the pitifully low gates that we get (1,131 after a 6-0 away win the previous week? What is up with people in Accrington?), then I'm surprised that we can carry on paying full-time wages!

baldy 20-12-2004 13:45

Re: Dagenham
 
sorry but is it christmas day on saturday some people may have had to go shopping and daggers where really going to bring alot

but no excuse on boxing day BRING A FRIEND OR 2

gucci boy 20-12-2004 14:06

Re: Dagenham
 
If you play a system for four months and it does not produce consistant results then its time to change the system i.e.4,5,1 to 4,4,2 and see how it goes

Steven 20-12-2004 14:43

Re: Dagenham
 
we have been doing recently we have been playing a 4-4-2 recently ever since rory has come back we seem to be playing alot more with evil up front or just off mullin

what does everyone think????

AccyMad 21-12-2004 10:49

Re: Dagenham
 
I think it was a game of 2 goalkeepers, theirs was brilliant at times & pulled off some great saves - ours was not so brilliant (to be polite) & gave two of the goals gift wrapped!!

Wynonie Harris 22-12-2004 08:15

Re: Dagenham
 
The Saturday before Christmas, flying saucer attacks, a plague of locusts...you can come up with all the excuses you want, but the fact is, gates of 1,131 will not sustain a full-time club. Yes, bring a friend but not just on Boxing Day; bring a friend (and more) for every game you can, otherwise full-time football in Accrington will just be a pleasant memory.

Redraine 22-12-2004 12:05

Re: Dagenham
 
I'm afraid the misgivings about Crichton as warned by my Burnley mate at work are becoming all too apparent. I was not in a position to judge on Dagenham's goals on Saturday, as I was on the Clayton terrace, but having seen them on the Conference video highlights I'm appalled. 2 of the 3 were bad mistakes, and even the third should have been cut out by an alert keeper. Dagenham's Roberts wouldn't have let them in, and I don't think Danny would have, either, never mind Jamie!
Time for a re-think, JC, as we can't be giving away any more Christmas presents.

AccyMad 22-12-2004 12:43

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Couldn't agree more Redraine - while JK is injured, Danny Alcock should be our no. 1 goalie, Crichton (if we have to have him at all) should only be there for cover.

Willie Miller 22-12-2004 16:02

Re: Dagenham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
The Saturday before Christmas, flying saucer attacks, a plague of locusts...you can come up with all the excuses you want, but the fact is, gates of 1,131 will not sustain a full-time club. Yes, bring a friend but not just on Boxing Day; bring a friend (and more) for every game you can, otherwise full-time football in Accrington will just be a pleasant memory.

Give it up will ya, :o Rob has spoken at length about this subject - the budget is based on a relegation scrap & gates of 800-900! Nobody, especially not Eric, would attempt full time football without a reasonable bottom line figure & a "worst case" scenario in mind.;)

We'd all love 2500 on every week but unfortunately up until Coley arrived we had a club that was "laughed" at. Now when you ask schoolchildren the all seem to follow Stanley (& A N Other Premiership Club) Passionate, loyal fan base will take a while but we are heading in the right direction.................:D

Wynonie Harris 23-12-2004 07:39

Re: Dagenham
 
Heading in the right direction? Our gates have actually gone DOWN since we went full-time. The fact is that our attendances are very mediocre for a club in our position. Obviously, more consistency on the field will help and I firmly believe that the extra passion and excitement generated by your own efforts will bear fruit eventually, but there's no room for complacency. We really do need to try talking friends, relatives, workmates, fellow pub regulars etc into coming along.

It's only cost me a tenner in pledge money so far and I want to be paying out a lot more than that by the end of the season!

Steven 23-12-2004 10:47

Re: Dagenham
 
As said before why dont we have printouts for the next home game and place them in local shops (ive heard this ios the case in accy) in great harwood, rishton, clayton etc therefore people now when the next home game is!!!! yes there maybe the LET but many people just flick past the stanley section once they have got past rovers and burnley!!!

So why dont we do this, even if it means extra cost for the club we could do it on a trial basis and see if the crouds increase!!!

Wynonie Harris 23-12-2004 12:59

Re: Dagenham
 
In the recent question-and-answers session, I suggested that we might do what other clubs do by producing an A4 size poster for each forthcoming home match which supporters can print off and display in their workplace, pub etc. Rob indicated that the club were going to adopt this idea, so come on, Rob, let's have some action!

I also agree with Steven that it might be worthwhile trying out a little advertising in surrounding townships.

Terry 23-12-2004 14:13

Re: Dagenham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
The Saturday before Christmas, flying saucer attacks, a plague of locusts...you can come up with all the excuses you want, but the fact is, gates of 1,131 will not sustain a full-time club. Yes, bring a friend but not just on Boxing Day; bring a friend (and more) for every game you can, otherwise full-time football in Accrington will just be a pleasant memory.

Oh Wynonie. I have been reading posts of Stanley on these pages for quite a while and I was actually going to ask whether or not it was a viable proposition that Stanley got back into the league proper. Being a Stanley fan from way back when they were chucked out and at the time cried my young eyes out when they were. It started because they(as I am sure you all know) with the amalgamation of third north with third south. That put a terrible strain on Stanley's finances because of travel. Not to mention that most of Accy folk went to see Rovers or Burnley even in those days. I can see that there are a lot of Stanley fans about but with gates like you mention, the question I was going to pose seems pointless. I really am at a loss as to what to say other than I wish Stanley and all the fans all the very best for whatever the future brings. (I really wish I was a multi-millionaire and was able to help Stanley reach the past glories. But that's not to be.)
Just keep plugging away at trying to get the fans and you never know. One day it might happen!!!

Wynonie Harris 23-12-2004 14:50

Re: Dagenham
 
Terry, although I'm notorious for whinging about Stanley's gates, I still think the potential is there to achieve football league status. I can see Stanley in the near future attaining the level of Boston United or Bury, with attendances of around 2,500.
Obviously, this will take a concerted effort by all of us to increase support and to spread the word amongst kids - the supporters of the future. And hopefully, we can pick up more Blackburn and Burnley fans on their "days off". But I reckon we can do it!

rob 23-12-2004 15:01

Re: Dagenham
 
it hasn't been forgotten, we're working on an automatically generated file that uses the info from the database to produce a poster for each game that can be downloaded and printed off...

Wynonie Harris 23-12-2004 15:06

Re: Dagenham
 
Sounds great! Cheers, Rob!

Redskin 23-12-2004 16:55

Re: Dagenham
 
Interesting thoughts and comments relating to our current gate attendance!

Do people not feel, as I do, that gate attendance is in general a lagging indicator of performance?

Wynonie Harris 24-12-2004 07:15

Re: Dagenham
 
Yes, like every football club, the performance is reflected in the gate. However, I still think that a full-time Conference club in a reasonable, upper-table position should be able to draw 1,500 home fans. It would be interesting to see how a sustained run of good results would affect our attendances...hopefully we will find out soon!

Bazf 24-12-2004 12:18

Re: Dagenham
 
Look at the history of Stanley has it ever had great gates? has it ever been in the top divisions, I dont mean div3north, why do Burnley get an average 15,000 or Rovers about the same? the main reason being Premier or div1, will kids in school support Stanley do they know about them? is it constanly on tv or headline news in the local papers? We have to accept that we are at the moment second class citizens to the larger clubs we have to make up 20yrs of mediocrity, having a base support of 1500 is great but no1 priority has to be a league club again then the increase will come.


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