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Kiwi John 20-05-2019 18:24

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
I'm with Greger.

Chimer 20-05-2019 22:25

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
I'm with the majority. As S2 said, it would be a one-shot injection - even if it did realise enough funds to strengthen the squad enough to make promotion reasonably feasible, we would still be in the hands of the gods of football as to whether it actually happened (note how Pompey and Sunderland faltered right at the end of this season). And if it did, we would surely need to strengthen again to have any hope of surviving in the Championship - and where would the funds for that come from?

Imho, buying the ground was the best financial move ever when it comes to guaranteeing (as far as anybody can) the continued survival of the club. Selling it again now would seem completely perverse......

monkey hanger 21-05-2019 08:57

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
[QUOTE=Chimer;1228423]I'm with the majority. As S2 said, it would be a one-shot injection - even if it did realise enough funds to strengthen the squad enough to make promotion reasonably feasible, we would still be in the hands of the gods of football as to whether it actually happened
and once its gone its gone for good and its never going to happen again. stanleys problem will always be the actual size of the ground no matter what the interest in the club is. if the ground was sold and it enabled the club to gain promotion its just not big enough to sustain a championship football team even with the sponsorship it gets.

Lord Stiffupperlip 21-05-2019 10:25

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
I can understand Mr Holt's ambitions for the club, but this would seem a massive gamble, especially after we only recently obtained the freehold.
It's already a miracle that we are one of the few clubs not actually in negative equity, let alone the smallest town supporting a L1 team.
Does anyone seriously think we can compete with big city Championship clubs, many of whom have spent millions in failed attempts to reach the PL.
Far better to 'cut our cloth' according to our purse than ransom our future on a risky gamble.
How much more satisfying having achieved our present success on a shoestring budget & low gates.
Bigger clubs than ours must be looking down & thinking - 'How the hell do they do it?'
We should be as happy as a pig in s***!

cashman 21-05-2019 10:39

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
I am Mlord.:)

Twenty Eight 21-05-2019 12:02

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
Imho, buying the ground was the best financial move ever when it comes to guaranteeing (as far as anybody can) the continued survival of the club. Selling it again now would seem completely perverse......[/QUOTE]


Even if it was to Andy Holt ?

Chimer 21-05-2019 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1228431)
Even if it was to Andy Holt ?

Yes, because the club will (hopefully, and especially if it owns the ground) outlive Andy :eek:, and his heirs and successors might :confused: not be so well inclined towards Stanley.

cashman 21-05-2019 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1228435)
Yes, because the club will (hopefully, and especially if it owns the ground) outlive Andy :eek:, and his heirs and successors might :confused: not be so well inclined towards Stanley.

Which is what occured later at Blackburn after Jack Walker died,

maccawozzagod 21-05-2019 18:37

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1228428)
How much more satisfying having achieved our present success on a shoestring budget & low gates.
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absolutely, only this week there was a mini meltdown on twitter with some Altrincham fans still bemoaning us rising higher than them. Someone else accused us of having done a Salford and stomping our way through non-league. The satisfaction of knowing that we never ever bought our way through a league and did everything the hard way was immense. And I enjoyed pointing out the facts of the matter

cashman 21-05-2019 18:42

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
Trouble is though complete knobs put their own slant on things when really they are clueless, well done macca,

Exile on Spencer St 21-05-2019 19:30

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
Heard everything now. Folks in Altrincham moaning that those in Accrington have more money. :rolleyes:

Chewbacca 21-05-2019 21:08

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
When Stanley were in the Cheshire league Alty were the best team in non-league but they had to be voted in.

One of the votes they lost by 1 and 2 people were delayed and missed the vote who were going to vote for them.

Remember when we played them in the 4th Qualifying round and they had no keeper? It was one of Stanley's biggest games.

Wynonie Harris 22-05-2019 12:30

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
The lowest average home gate in the Championship last season was Rotherham United with 9,880. Even if we had a full house for every home game (which we wouldn't have), our average home gate would still only be just over half that. How long would we survive in the Championship in those circumstances, even with the fillip of a one-shot payment from selling our ground?

cashman 22-05-2019 12:48

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
The Championship would be a great dream realized, but only the village idiot could expect us to survive in it. i would honestly love it, if we somehow managed it and returned the season after. i would die a very happy bunny.

Exile on Spencer St 22-05-2019 15:09

Re: Mortgaging the family silver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1228460)
The lowest average home gate in the Championship last season was Rotherham United with 9,880. Even if we had a full house for every home game (which we wouldn't have), our average home gate would still only be just over half that. How long would we survive in the Championship in those circumstances, even with the fillip of a one-shot payment from selling our ground?

Burton Albion’s average home gate this season was 3,228. They were in the Championship for two seasons, averaging 5,228 and (when relegated) 4,645.
On home gates alone that suggests Stanley would be lucky to survive one season if the miracle of promotion happened.


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