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Not looking good at the moments for our friends at Gigg Lane....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49156362

Hope things get sorted soon!!


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Terrible news, hope they can pull through - everything crossed

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Very sad state of affairs.

A situation we only know too well.

Hopefully everything get's sorted.

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very sad state of affairs but maybe the board have been paying wages beyond their means, a footy.com. blog reports that in april 2018 bury players were on an av. weekly wage of £2,400,

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Sure hope they survive.:eek: aint looking good though.

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seems the above is true and the wages being nearly double near neighbour rochdale. all fans want success, but if they realised the possible cost of last seasons i doubt anyone would have wanted it.

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The link has been updated since I posted it.....

Talking about our game.......... :(


"In addition, the EFL board, if not in possession of the necessary evidence by 12:00 on Friday, 2 August, will make a determination as to whether to suspend Bury's away fixture at Accrington Stanley."

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Remembered this and it seems like last week......

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just of a matter of interest the link to the footy.com blog on av. wages of players & fans dated from april 2018 https://www.footy.com/footballers-vs...u-vs-your-club

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How old is that?????

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Click the link: https://www.footy.com/blog/post/2018...rs-vs-the-fans
it takes you to a blog posted by Plil Delves on the 04/05/2018 Under the picture of Eden Hazard there is a high-lighted link (the wage gap - footballers vs the fans) that takes you their

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I wonder if we do play them will Mr "mighty, mighty shakers" be back on the PA?

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Like all of us, I'm hoping that the situation with Bolton and Bury is sorted out to the satisfaction of their fans.

I was surprised to read this in the Guardian:

If that does happen, the EFL board will then meet to review Bury’s overall situation and a possible expulsion from the league is among the options it could then consider. If that were to happen, the EFL clarified that League One would be played with 23 rather than 24 clubs and next season an extra club would be promoted from League Two.

I would have thought it would have been the other way round, with one fewer side being relegated from League One.

The article's at https://www.theguardian.com/football...ll-league-bury

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That would be sensible but dont forget,as well as useless the E.F.L. is stupid.

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The EFL has now suspended our first home game due to Bury not being able to show that their finances have been sorted sufficiently to pay off creditors etc. The game will be re-arranged for a later date (assuming the club survive)

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Terrible news, had everything crossed it would go ahead - looking grim for Bury, heartbreaking for their fans :(

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From an informed ( well he tells me that he is !) Bury supporter, things on the executive side of the Club are really much worse than is currently being reported and are likely to deteriorate even further !.
Now if that is so then for everyone there the future must seem not only bleak, but also so heart-rending for everyone who has any affiliation with the Club

From the sidelines I can, remembering the good times watching games at Gigg Lane,
And less so when sitting in a Railway carriage at Bury Station when the footbridge there collapsed on top of us !, only watch again and hope that survival can be achieved and ensured for our friends at their ancient and proud Football Club.

ON BURY !.. ON TO SURVIVAL AND GREATER THINGS !

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Great post my friend :notworthy :notworthy

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Feeling really concerned and sorry for Bury and their fans, but also concerned that losing that game (surely a certain sellout) will be a kick in the financial coffers for us, coming after three months without any income to speak of.

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Would have been a massive blow years ago, but things are better these days ;)

Let us hope that 10 years down the line, Bury can say the same.....................

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OSC have just posted on Facebook that next Saturday there will be a game between Stanley fans & Bury fans (12.30 kick off - venue to be confirmed).
Then after the game, from 3pm there's a barbecue, live band & disco behind the Clayton End - all proceeds to go to the Bury fans to help with their fight
Great gesture, well done to the organisers

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Brilliant idea - well done :)

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On Twitter also now :)

Pity it could not be played at The Crown... H&S Etc. will be an issue..

Just hope it is well attended :)

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Dont understand why it cannot? if had been Bury match it would have been.

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Would imagine there is a massive difference between a professional game and a bit of a kickabout (not trying to run anybody/anything down, but that is what it is essentially)

We will have to wait and see, no matter where it is played, it is a great idea :)


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Please post it on any ither forums you go on as well, solidarity between fans etc

https://www.facebook.com/23134272054...6920272987033/

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The most ludicrous thing i’ve heard, if I heard it right, about Bury’s plight is that EFL, in its wisdom:rolleyes:, has suggested that if Bury are thrown out (god forbid) then League 1 will only have 23 teams, but at the season’s end 4 will still be relegated and an extra club will be promoted for next season from League 2 (and presumably so on down the pyramids).
So the team who finishes 20th in L1, and would have escaped the drop normally, will be relegated, and some lucky club from L2 will get promoted.
Why would the EFL think it fair to punish a totally unconnected L1 club for Bury’s problems?
If that is a serious suggestion, then the EFL are bigger p*** artists than the sweet FA.

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The E.F.L. is totally useless no idea at all imho.

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So the team who finishes 20th in L1, and would have escaped the drop normally, will be relegated, and some lucky club from L2 will get promoted.
Why would the EFL think it fair to punish a totally unconnected L1 club for Bury’s problems?
If that is a serious suggestion, then the EFL are bigger p*** artists than the sweet FA.[/QUOTE]

the chant of, you don,t know what you,re doing comes to mind.

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Are there any details yet about the Stanley Fans v Bury Fans charity match intended for Saturday at 12.30pm?
Re; location, admission prices, other activities on the day etc.

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There you go mate :)

Are you thinking of donning your boots? :)

https://accringtonstanley.co.uk/2019/08/fans-match/

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£2.50 per pint and a quid of it going to yonners. Can we get a thousand up there?

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Great stuff. I’ll be there but my boots will have to stay in the cupboard. They have been in there for over forty years now!:theband:

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Looking at the Title and the price of a pint, just reminds me are Rochdale ripping off away supporters in the clubhouse bar this season.

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well they always do, doubt if they will change.:(

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Presumably for as long as those in the football authorities are still getting enough of the money to pay their salaries, pensions, and perks.:rolleyes:

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The game will only make decent money if the players are charged to play. No idea what the arrangement is.

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Eric Whalley wouldve loved that arrangement

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Bury have been given a 14 day withdrawal of membership notice by the EFL, they now have till 23rd August to provide the information on their finances needed or it could be curtains - sad times

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It’s actually a bit worse ....... the deadline for financial plan disclosure to pay off creditors is Wednesday 14th.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49280328

Do not get why they have stopped them playing in the cup??

On second thoughts, I suppose if they went through and then were thrown out, it would be an issue...........

As you say, sad times :(

Let us hope we can raise some cash for the players and staff at the weekend... :)

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So Bury's Management Owners, and Administrators may have been profligate with their Finances last season as we have all read. This being the case then some criticism must fall on their shoulders.
But what I cannot accept is the disinterest in the Club's present predicament ( which now contains the threat of expulsion from League football ), shown by the EFL, The FA, The PFA , neighbouring Premiership Clubs, the Premiership' s ' soccer millionaires ', the list goes on !.
If this ignoring of one of the potential demise of one of our more traditional clubs is indicative of our national game then all on our Forum and elsewhere who have rightly
criticised this Scrooge -like behaviour have got it totally correct !.
Do you echo my hope that one or more of the organisation's or individuals mentioned have a change of heart in relation to our suffering neighbours at Gigg Lane and prove to be the saviour needed at this time ?. It would end the heartache which we know is having such negative effects on the Players, Management and Supporters day in day out !.
Just a voice crying in the wilderness ?, but I had to say it !.

ON BURY !..ON TO SURVIVAL AND SUCCESS !

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Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





:worthy: :worthy: :worthy:

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What also annoys me - and I know people can do what they want with their money!!! - is that 2/5 of those who have put money into $4£ord, were born in Bury :idunno:

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And doesn’t Gigg Lane have a stand named in honour of their father?

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Correct my exiled friend...............

https://www.buryfc.co.uk/news/2015/n...neville-stand/

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1230203]What also annoys me - and I know people can do what they want with their money!!! - is that 2/5 of those who have put money into $4£ord, were born in Bury :idunno:

thing is you have no option in where you are born but have options after that. the salford situation with them is history now. only they will know if they actually wanted to invest in bury before the salford situation and were shown the door. way things are going at bury and salford it seems they were wiser to invest in the latter.

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But, they could put money in now and could have put it in years ago...................

Also, cannot say whether or not they were wiser after the fact.

If they had been involved somehow, things might not be as grave!

Anyway, as you say, all history now, just hope that they can get it sorted :)

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Wonder how much national publicity this has??

Not being a Social Media user, it is not easy to find out....

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" Why bail out Bury after £4million blunder?
Transfer deadline day was reaching its shrill crescendo when the Football League announced that Bury's Carabao Cup game with Sheffield Wednesday was off.

It is easy, in the circumstances, to make comparisons between football's have and have nots; the fraction of Harry Maguire's transfer fee that would preserve football 10 miles down the road. How much was leaking out of the game to agents when Bury, and Bolton perhaps, lay dying.

Yet United paying the extortionate going rate for a sought-after centre half, or an agent securing his fee to facilitate a complex sequence of transfers, is not the reason Bury are struggling. They spent money they did not have to finance a promotion they could not afford.

Bury got it horribly wrong. That is the story of football throughout time. Clubs rise and fall because of good and bad decisions. These decisions are made on the field, by managers and coaches or in the boardroom "....

So quoth Martin Samuels in today's Daily Mail !, this opinion from one of the country's leading sportswriters flies headlong into the face of all that our fans who will be striving their best tomorrow to raise some funds for Bury's Fighting Fund and the rest of us are thinking !.

How can the rest of England's soccer world create some desire to help a struggling League 1 Club when faced with such negative words and opinions ?.

I despair !!.. BUT :-

ON BURY !.. ON TO SURVIVAL AND SUCCESS !

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The players are paying £10 each to take part I believe

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How did it go today??

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Did not make it to the game - 16-1 to Stanley I believe - only went to ground :)

Not a bad turn out, as the weather was atrocious....

Got a good feeling from everybody there - Bury FANs in particular!!

Young lad with guitar singing was OK :)

Jase picked up the 'Lancashire Pals' trophy :)

Only had a couple of hours there, maybe get some other reports from other there :)

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I normally respect Martin Samuel's column, but this is a cold hard view of the facts.
Football is more than an accountants balance sheet. It is about local communities.
About providing employment for young players & pleasure for loyal fans who pay to attend games.
If you take Samuel's argument to its logical conclusion; 'No mercy for unprofitable clubs!' - we'd end up with a football league of 5 or 6 clubs.
You've got to sympathise with Bury. In many respects they mirror Stanley.
A small local club trying to exist in the shadow of 2 giants of the game.
To rub salt in the wound, they've now got moneybags Salford on their doorstep.
The EFL's decision to cancel Saturdays game with us cost both Bury & ASFC.
Apart from the gate revenue, all of our hospitality revenue went down the drain.
Do you think the EFL will compensate Stanley for this?????
Martin Samuel's would do well to read the statement of the Bury chairman after the cancellation - he might well change his mind about where the guilt lies.
https://www.buryfc.co.uk/news/2019/a...stponed-by-efl

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Just over £1400 raised so far with the bar & BBQ takings still to be added in - brilliant!

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Lord.S. !,

I applaud your post, but do you know what concerns me even more ? . It is the apparent corporate shrug of the shoulders accompanied by a general ' so what ? ' demonstrated by the rest of English football ( Accrington Stanley excepted of course ! )in relation to Bury's imminent demise as a League Football Club .
The ' haves ' are apparently winning this one hands down !.. which is both sad and worrying when thinking about the state of our National game !.

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Despite the awful weather it was a great event and a super show of solidarity between fans of smaller clubs. The chaps and young lads had a really good run out in the match and their was a good turn out at the ground for the BBQ and beer session.:theband:
Whilst £1,400 + doesn’t sound much in the greater situation of a club in serious financial trouble, it certainly sends a message to the rest of the football world how firmly the fraternity of smaller clubs are standing together.:wave8::signbeer::rose8:
Andy Holt, ‘The People’s Chairman’, once again chatted with supporters of both clubs and he talks so much common sense......
We just need the powers that be to listen!:mosher:

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Total raised including a bucket collection on Tuesday night is just over £2,275 - absolutely brilliant

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true and the premier league talk about wages and transfer fees in money we cannot get our head around. non premier fans talk about if x or y is given by the premier league to help clubs out instead of inflating wages and transfer fees then this should be the way forward. the only problem with this is whats stopping another lower league club to overspend knowing there is a safety net if there spending does not come off. always supported a lowe league strugglng club and hate to see anyone go, but if the league cannot sort clubs out then i,m afraid some with their dodgy owners will have to go.

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More common sense from Andy:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...vABaAF1_piRLEc

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its great sense but the E.F.L. dont like sense.

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Just been on Granada Reports that Bury have been kicked out of the Carabou Cup for not playing their fixture last week, they've also had a 6th game v Tranmere this weekend suspended & they said there's a rumour that Steve Dale has turned down a bid to buy the club from a former chairman - very sad

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Not a rumour definite bid. However Dale reckons he’s got another interested party at a higher figure.
Going to the wire this.
League have confirmed if expelled there will only be three down this season.

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Just worded my post as it was reported on the local news, however it seems that the bid was from the previous owner of Port Vale, Norman Smurthwaite, & he couldn't have taken Bury over as he still has a financial interest in Vale - the waters get muddier & muddier

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I believe that isn't true either.

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The only sensible decision or bit of good news to come out of this sorry mess.

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Hope they apologize for that sense.?

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Who knows??? Just one thing that I think we all agree on, it's a bloody big mess

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It is a mess the Efl has handled it badly as well Bolton allowed to play Bury not what's that about, they have got to make a decision about both clubs soon its making the league a farce either make them play or expel them and expunge the records.

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It isn’t mate.
He has no interest financially in Port Vale.
He sold up in the summer so this was a viable bid.
Dale is the man to rip to shreds not the EFL.

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He did sell up but still retained what he described as a 'substantial financial investment' in Port Vale which will be in place for 3 years, this would prevent him owning another league club but he did try to take over Notts County & as they are now in the Conference the rules would possibly allow that

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Difficult to be specific but I know that Smurthwaites proposal passed all EFL criteria.
Dale is a businessman with no football pulse or care for the local community. Some of the stuff that has gone on is mind boggling.
Stop blaming the EFL. Rules are rules. Dale and the previous owner want lynching.

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I'm not blaming the EFL at all, I agree all that's wrong at Bury can be laid at the door of both Steve Dale & the previous incumbent, Stuart Day & for what it's worth I don't think Dale has any intention of selling to anyone no matter if they meet the criteria or not - I hope for their fans sake I'm proved wrong in the next 24 hours

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Thought dale bought em for peanuts? if thats the case why is he refusing offers?

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Because he's an asset stripper he is only interested in a profit couldn't give a toss about Bury the Efl or football in general, apparently wants £900,000 from any potential buyers.

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He did, paid £1 for the club - he has his own agenda for refusing offers methinks

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he owns gigg lane so he,ll be working out how much profit for him there is when bury are finished. loads of spaces for new build houses.

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that then to me makes him a piece of crap imho.

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Don't think you'll get anyone arguing with that Cashy!

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Up to 80 plots over 2 hectares - so worth double what he is supposed to be asking for.

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ĹCovenant on Gigg Lane for sport can't build houses on it he now as 4 buyer's haggling over the sale he will sell to who gives him the biggest pay day for him IMHO, was is game plan was all along asset stripper expert.

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[QUOTE=andyd;1230746]Ĺ

Covenant on Gigg Lane for sport can't build houses

that might be the situation at the moment. things can get altered especially when the word money is floating about. bet people on here can name sports fields that have been taken over for other uses and now are just a memory.

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I will, I think he is being harsh on the piece of crap.

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Find this strange...........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49446745

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pardon my stupidity joe, whats strange oer it?:confused:

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So now, Steve Dale has been on Talk Sport this morning urging fans to 'chip in' to help raise £2.7 million by tonight to save the club - he is clearly completely deluded to say the least!! What an absolute a******e!

https://talksport.com/football/efl/5913 . . .expulsion/

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1230757]The covenant was removed months ago.

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I said a few weeks ago that it annoyed me that people had put money into Salford, when they were Bury born and their family worked for Bury!

That is all my friend :)

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My thoughts exactly!!

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I would love to see someone that loves Bury fc buy the club, Dale & before him Day have been a disaster for the club & more so the staff & fans, I would not give a penny to the club while Dale is in charge, we are so lucky to have Andy Holt at Stanley

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Amen to that!

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Sold ??? Problem solved???... Hope so..https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49455433

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Not a done deal yet, seems to me a bit odd that this offer which has supposedly been on the table for the last 10 weeks or so hasn't been shown to the EFL until an hour or so before the deadline?
If they'd known of this possibility earlier, surely they could have been looking into it's viability to avoid any longer delays that a longer extension, should they allow it, will cause to the fixtures.
Just a thought

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agree personally think its a con job, hope not for the Bury fans sake.

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its called hoping a better offer comes along. its sod bury, its all about the money.

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Absolutely! Let's hope that odious man didn't leave it too late

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Just been confirmed that the EFL have extended Bury's deadline till 5pm on Tuesday

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Expect another announcement from Dale at 4:59pm next Tuesday, then.

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That he's not prepared to sell after all? Wouldn't be surprised :rolleyes: