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Exile on Spencer St 11-11-2019 08:16

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233545)
I have McConville, Pritchard and Opoku joint top with 2 assists each.

If Evtimov was given every corner and attacking free kick to take then he would probably have the most assists.
‘Assists’ is another one of those meaningless statistics, like possession, that has been imported from a different North American game to give media nerds something to prattle on about and pretend they know some dark secrets about footie that are missed by the average fan.

monkey hanger 11-11-2019 08:16

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
[QUOTE=yonmon;1233518
Stanleyjosh says that had whoever was representing the Reds at halftime had not agreed to
carry on the game , then the Club would have been sanctioned.
Now, to someone who doesnt know the rules whatsoever, will you please try to explain to me if this is in fact the truth of the matter ?.

i do not know the fa cup rules of the competition. even the keighley and district fa have a ten page booklet for the 3 competitions they run where you reach the semi final after winning one game. County fa,s used to issue a book also on their competition rules along with other stuff. i imagine that someone at stanley does have a copy {probably on line nowadays** where it is wriiten in stone regarding saturdays issue. it can get a little complicated as its this action to be followed after that action was followed unless that action was not followed in the first place. thing is would the game have actually gone ahead in the first place with only 2 officials attending the game. need to see someone coming out with what is written at the end of the day.

cashman 11-11-2019 08:35

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1233556][QUOTE=yonmon;1233518
Stanleyjosh says that had whoever was representing the Reds at halftime had not agreed to
carry on the game , then the Club would have been sanctioned.
Now, to someone who doesnt know the rules whatsoever, will you please try to explain to me if this is in fact the truth of the matter ?.

i do not know the fa cup rules of the competition. even the keighley and district fa have a ten page booklet for the 3 competitions they run where you reach the semi final after winning one game. County fa,s used to issue a book also on their competition rules along with other stuff. i imagine that someone at stanley does have a copy {probably on line nowadays** where it is wriiten in stone regarding saturdays issue. it can get a little complicated as its this action to be followed after that action was followed unless that action was not followed in the first place. thing is would the game have actually gone ahead in the first place with only 2 officials attending the game. need to see someone coming out with what is written at the end of the day.[/QUOTE]

thats what i say, i cannot find owt on the F.A. site yet stanley josh has stated what the rules are, but as yet has not demonstrated where this rule is.

Morecambe_Red 11-11-2019 08:59

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233554)
no-one thats the point.


It really should have been abandoned from the sound of it. I think they said each club could provide a liner but each liner was rejected by both the clubs. Surely they could have had the Crewe volunteer covering the Accy forwards and the Accy liner covering the Crewe forwards. Probably be plenty of offside decisions but less of a farce than one liner.

AccyMad 11-11-2019 09:36

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1233551)
I only heard what was going on via Radio Lancs on the way home from Blackpool. Haven't seen any highlights but if there was only a liner on one side of the pitch who was watching for the ball going over the lines on the other side of the pitch ?

In simple terms - nobody! Absolutely crazy :rolleyes:

AccyMad 11-11-2019 09:38

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1233558)
It really should have been abandoned from the sound of it. I think they said each club could provide a liner but each liner was rejected by both the clubs. Surely they could have had the Crewe volunteer covering the Accy forwards and the Accy liner covering the Crewe forwards. Probably be plenty of offside decisions but less of a farce than one liner.

That would have made more sense

Crown Grounder 11-11-2019 13:10

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
We are certainly on the "Crest of a Slump" and I gather from the posts on this thread so far that you are all rather unhappy. All teams and their manager go through bad periods during the season. Lets just keep it all in perspective. We all know we have one of the lowest levels of resources in League 1 and that the FA Cup is a competition that often favours the team from the league below. I honestly believe that our results will start to improve in the weeks to come. The manager has the opportunity to make changes in the January window and who knows we may still be playing in League 1 next season. Its an amazing achievement that Stanley have had the success they have had over the last 15 years. I know its very hard supporting a losing team, but the role of the twelfth man is to keep supporting "their players and their manager" through the good times and the bad times.........to quote one level head (USUALLY!!) on this forum..."ON STANLEY ON"....and KIWI....don't start another match thread until Accy Mad gives you permission to do so..........Up the Stanley...

alexbarmy 11-11-2019 13:23

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1233558)
It really should have been abandoned from the sound of it. I think they said each club could provide a liner but each liner was rejected by both the clubs. Surely they could have had the Crewe volunteer covering the Accy forwards and the Accy liner covering the Crewe forwards. Probably be plenty of offside decisions but less of a farce than one liner.

According to the Crewe side of the story, Crewe accepted Jimmy Bell's son as a linesman but he then backtracked and said he wasn't comfortable running the line. A Crewe fan was qualified to run the line but Accrington didn't agree to that.

However, Dave Artell was adamant he wanted to complete the game for the sake of his team and the travelling fans.

So the FA were called in to rule and the rules were found. Strange rules though - I am sure in the 70 minutes it took they could have found a local referee.

Revived Red 11-11-2019 13:29

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1233543)
23% of our goals conceded have been conceded in the last 10 minutes. In total contrast 0% of our goals have been scored in the last 10 minutes.

I have to agree with Exile when he says that statistics are concoctions produced mainly by the pundits. Assists/percentage possession etc etc are meaningless rubbish. But I do take note of the stat mentioned above. It should be saying something to our management team. Why is it that almost one quarter of the goals conceded come in the last 10 minutes of a game. Is it fitness? Is it concentration? Surely it cannot be simply coincidence.

And the failure to score a single goal in those final 10 minutes illustrates how pointless it is to bring on a substitute during that time.

cashman 11-11-2019 13:52

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
like crown grounder i also expect our results to improve, but the annoyance in the main is over what happened on sat with NO explanation. ok crewe were the best side without doubt, but the farce that happened after the injuries to the officials deserve explanation surely? me and many i have spoken too do not believe that what happened is covered by the F.A.s rules.

Exile on Spencer St 11-11-2019 14:24

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown Grounder (Post 1233563)
We are certainly on the "Crest of a Slump" and I gather from the posts on this thread so far that you are all rather unhappy. All teams and their manager go through bad periods during the season. Lets just keep it all in perspective....

Wise words, Crown Grounder.
Look at the England Rugby XV. World beaters, arguably best performance of all time one week. Next week, hopeless fools who can’t even pass to each other.
We could (as I know one southern Stanley fan does) also support Leyton Orient!:eek:
Beaten not by a team eight places below them but by one 78 places below.
Perspective.
What was clear from Mr. Evtimov’s eloquent interview and Coley’s comments was that all the players and staff know that they were crap on Saturday. I would be more worried if they thought they played well or were unlucky.
Big challenge at Rotherham. Hope the team show Messrs Barlaser, Crooks, and Ihiekwe just what they are made of.

Inspector Morse 11-11-2019 14:57

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
You can set your watch by Stanley's traditional pre-Christmas slump.

ASFC1019 11-11-2019 16:02

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Farcical situation on Saturday really.
As has already been stated Jimmys son Elliot, level 4 referee was asked to run the line but felt it would be inappropriate for obvious reasons. Then a Crewe fan offered but that was also rejected for obvious reasons.
Ended up a ridiculous situation!!
Less said about what actually happened on the pitch, the better.

VALAIRIAN 11-11-2019 16:16

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1233565)
I have to agree with Exile when he says that statistics are concoctions produced mainly by the pundits. Assists/percentage possession etc etc are meaningless rubbish. But I do take note of the stat mentioned above. It should be saying something to our management team. Why is it that almost one quarter of the goals conceded come in the last 10 minutes of a game. Is it fitness? Is it concentration? Surely it cannot be simply coincidence.

And the failure to score a single goal in those final 10 minutes illustrates how pointless it is to bring on a substitute during that time.

Also, not a coincidence that the best team in the land at the moment, has scored more goals in 90+ minutes that anybody else.....???

:) :) :)

yonmon 11-11-2019 16:39

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1233548)
This tedious & incessant criticism - from all quarters, of virtually every player in the squad only diverts responsibility from where it truly lies -
THE MANAGER!
He picks the team, decides the formation & dictates the tactics.
The fact that L2 Crewe came & virtually dominated the game only proves how oh-so predictable we've become.
John Coleman was as culpable for yesterdays defeat as any member of the team, yet seems to have escaped scot free from any criticism.
Silly me! Of course it's all the players fault!.....

TOUCHE !!.... :confused:

yonmon 11-11-2019 16:44

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1233558)
It really should have been abandoned from the sound of it. I think they said each club could provide a liner but each liner was rejected by both the clubs. Surely they could have had the Crewe volunteer covering the Accy forwards and the Accy liner covering the Crewe forwards. Probably be plenty of offside decisions but less of a farce than one liner.

Great Idea MR !!... I think??
I have abdicated from this thread.. totally confused !..
I'll let Cashy carry on from here... !!

DAV007 11-11-2019 18:45

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Is Andy Holt still raging?

choirboy 11-11-2019 19:14

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233566)
"Crewe were the best side without doubt, but the farce that happened after the injuries to the officials deserve explanation surely? me and many i have spoken too do not believe that what happened is covered by the F.A.s rules".

FIRSTLY. I fully agree that Crewe outplayed Stanley throughout the first half and I think that we were actually lucky to be only one goal down at half time. So I have no issue with the scoreline.

SECONDLY. I have read the relevant rules regarding injuries to referees and assistant referees produced by the FA and I also read the FA rules for conducting The FA Cup.
I could not find a rule about the continuation of a match with only a referee and one assistant referee. As has already been pointed out earlier on this post ........ there was a call made to the FA and head of referees and they said that the game had to be played with one assistant. I believe that this decision was made on the spur of the moment and I consider that it was a MASSIVE MISTAKE and that the FA need to ammend/extend the relevant rules in 'The LAWS OF THE GAME' in order to make sure that the match should be allowed to continue fairly and in the full spirit of the sport!:mad:

THIRDLY. The fact that their was a 'Toss Up' for which team had the advantage of a defensive assistant referee is an admission by the FA that one team was going to be disadvantaged and would therefore be UNFAIRLY treated! The only way that the match might have continued IMHO was if Usain Bolt was a Fully Qualified FA referee, and that he was in our locality at the time of the match! Then perhaps he could have RUN THE LINE ON ONE SIDE OF THE PITCH FROM CORNER FLAG TO CORNER FLAG!....ZOOOM!
:eek:

I thought that the excessively long delay, with very little information over the loud speaker system was really poor and inconsiderate to the position of supporters who needed to know what time they would be staying until at the ground. My daughter had to leave after only ten minutes of the second half as she had tickets for a concert in Burnley. Q; Should she be financially recompensed?:gif_12:

IMHO to play the second half with only one assistant referee was not only FARCICAL but very UNFAIR to the team losing 'The Toss'......(Stanley in this case). It was TOTALLY UNFAIR... IMHO because the team defending the half of the field without the linesman could not play a normal defensive game, they dared not attempt to 'Squeeze' their opponents out of the defensive area because of the risk of obvious 'off sides' not being observed. Some Crewe players clearly tried to take advantage of this and eventually the frustration for the defending side led to the Red Card.:thumbsdow

I was told, or read somewhere, that the assistant referee who was on the pitch for the second half has not actually 'refereed' a match on the pitch for SEVEN YEARS. Players on both sides clearly tried to take advantage of him, they gave him far too much verbal grief and the lack of an assistant referee made his job pretty near impossible. He was so bad that it was only in the last ten minutes that I realised he was not an amateur referee from one of our local leagues who had been drafted in! In my view the 'new referee' was not fit to officiate from the centre of the pitch. He made some terrible decisions and denied clear penalty claims. I have never seen so much ridiculous and obvious shirt pulling at corner kicks and free kicks! However, IMHO the players should take more of the blame for this than the unfortunate second half referee.:idunno:

I was also concerned for the safety of the players as things could have gone really out of control but luckily once Crewe scored the second goal, both sets of players seemed to sensibly just.... 'play the match out to its inevitable conclusion'
.:egged:

It is easy to make comments 'after the event' but my own view is that the match should not have continued with only one assistant referee.
:(
IN SUMMARY;
1) The second half of the match was NOT PLAYED ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, in spite of Andy Holt spending £350,000 on improving our pitch last summer! This is completely contradictory to the LAWS OF THE GAME written by the FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION.
2) The FA need to rewrite their rules about this type of situation occurring in their 'Laws of The Game'.

:ooh::moon:

THIS SITUATION SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!
THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION MUST LEARN FROM THIS AND MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES PROMPTLY TO THEIR 'LAWS OF THE GAME'!

:clown::clown::clown::clown:

choirboy 11-11-2019 19:17

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Flippin' eck! Took me ages to write that!

ON STANLEY ON

cashman 11-11-2019 19:36

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
well thats speaks volumes for people that crack on they know it all, but know nowt. i know very little dont pretend i do, but i also looked and could NOT find a rule that covered this abomination, also i cannot understand why our club did not seem to have checked this out, they had enough time to do so.

choirboy 11-11-2019 19:36

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
One other point;
Hughes will get a ban!
:behead:

choirboy 11-11-2019 19:39

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233581)
well thats speaks volumes for people that crack on they know it all, but know nowt. i know very little dont pretend i do, but i also looked and could NOT find a rule that covered this abomination, also i cannot understand why our club did not seem to have checked this out, they had enough time to do so.

Fully agree Cashy....That is why I started my response with your quote.:s_love:

StanleyJosh 11-11-2019 19:50

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Choirboy, 4 announcements were made over the tannoy system from 16.10 (5 mins after 2nd half due to start) until 16:55 when it was announced fame would resume at 17:10

StanleyJosh 11-11-2019 19:54

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233581)
well thats speaks volumes for people that crack on they know it all, but know nowt. i know very little dont pretend i do, but i also looked and could NOT find a rule that covered this abomination, also i cannot understand why our club did not seem to have checked this out, they had enough time to do so.

Cashy, the handbook isn’t publicised. It’s sent to competing clubs before the season starts.
The FA who run the competition were contacted and the decision was made.
I agree it was the wrong decision, but if we won... I wouldn’t care less.
We lost, and even with 2 lino’s we still would have lost

choirboy 11-11-2019 20:07

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233584)
Choirboy, 4 announcements were made over the tannoy system from 16.10 (5 mins after 2nd half due to start) until 16:55 when it was announced fame would resume at 17:10

I accept about the times being announced StanleyJosh but I still feel that I was not kept well enough informed regarding the replacement refereeing situation.:mad:

cashman 11-11-2019 20:14

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
the point is not we would still have lost, we were utter garbage on sat, that to me was due to the way stanley were set up to play.

StanleyJosh 11-11-2019 20:15

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1233586)
I accept about the times being announced StanleyJosh but I still feel that I was not kept well enough informed regarding the replacement refereeing situation.:mad:

Every 10 minutes surely enough? No other news was broadcast because we didn’t know what was happening. It was down to the officials and managers, not a PA.
Soon as PA knew, everyone knew.

choirboy 11-11-2019 20:16

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233585)
Cashy, the handbook isn’t publicised. It’s sent to competing clubs before the season starts.
The FA who run the competition were contacted and the decision was made.
I agree it was the wrong decision, but if we won... I wouldn’t care less.
We lost, and even with 2 lino’s we still would have lost

StanleyJosh. You appear to have just agreed above in your own words that the Football Association had no adequate rules to cover this situation, hence the phone call. Also you have agreed that the Football Association made the wrong decision!
I find your comment..."but if we won... I wouldn’t care less" very disappointing. IMHO had we won this would have been no less of a RIDICULOUS thing to have happened.:mad:

I have sent a transcript of my earlier post to The football Association but I doubt if I will get any response!:cool:

AccyMad 11-11-2019 20:17

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
And look what we would have won (apart from £36,000 of course) - an away tie at Stourbridge or Eastleigh, not very enticing

cashman 11-11-2019 20:19

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
a good draw makes no difference at all to the stupid way the problem was resolved.

StanleyJosh 11-11-2019 20:22

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1233589)
StanleyJosh. You appear to have just agreed above in your own words that the Football Association had no adequate rules to cover this situation, hence the phone call. Also you have agreed that the Football Association made the wrong decision!
I find your comment..."but if we won... I wouldn’t care less" very disappointing. IMHO had we won this would have been no less of a RIDICULOUS thing to have happened.:mad:

I have sent a transcript of my earlier post to The football Association but I doubt if I will get any response!:cool:

Would it have been less ridiculous. No.
Would I have been as bothered. No.
Winning is the most important end goal.

In my opinion, a decision was made by the relevant people, I don’t agree with it but have to accept it. Having 1 linesman or 2 - we were still awful and would not have won regardless.

cashman 11-11-2019 20:27

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
so somethings that so blatantly wrong you accept? well sorry i was brought up better than that.

StanleyJosh 11-11-2019 20:27

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Just a thought....

Possibility that game was agreed to continue to save managers having to agree on a replacement if couldn’t find a suitable one.
If we were 1-0 playing like Crewe were, you’d bet your house Coley would want to continue playing by any means

StanleyJosh 11-11-2019 20:28

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233593)
so somethings that so blatantly wrong you accept? well sorry i was brought up better than that.

What can you do about it now.
What other options were there?
Should the game have been called off?

cashman 11-11-2019 20:29

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233594)
Just a thought....

Possibility that game was agreed to continue to save managers having to agree on a replacement if couldn’t find a suitable one.
If we were 1-0 playing like Crewe were, you’d bet your house Coley would want to continue playing by any means

thats all that is a possibility. if we had been winning it still should not have continued in that manner. it just demonstrates to me me how USELESS the F.A. are.also anyone at our club who agreed to continue in that manner. by the way i heard nothing at all about us being sanctioned.

ferret man 11-11-2019 22:01

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233532)
Too much hearsay.
As AccyMad rightly said, Jimmy Bells son James offered as he is a qualified ref, so did a Crewe fan and their spotter although mutually agreed unfair as based.
Unsure as to why ref’s assessor didn’t come into equation.
Phone calls at half time to FA & Mike Jones led to the outcome.

Rules are ridiculous. Just like VAR, new handball rule, stoppage time rule, new subs rule, new free kick rule etc.
Only good new one is no more contested drop balls.

Don't forget the stupid goal kick rule

Wynonie Harris 11-11-2019 22:23

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
We should have called it off? What, and have to turn up on a cold Tuesday night to watch us get beaten again? Sod that for a game of soldiers!

yonmon 12-11-2019 08:02

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233584)
Choirboy, 4 announcements were made over the tannoy system from 16.10 (5 mins after 2nd half due to start) until 16:55 when it was announced fame would resume at 17:10

Only watched ' Fame ' once Josh !.. didn't care for the music one little bit . As to screening it at 17.10 on Saturday evening , At that point I was stood shivering totally bemused by all the events going on around me !.. hoping that whatever the rules were saying and not really thinking about the possibility of sanctions being imposed on the Stanley !, we could all go home .. ( Wynonie included ! )...:confused::D;)

cashman 12-11-2019 08:22

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233598)
We should have called it off? What, and have to turn up on a cold Tuesday night to watch us get beaten again? Sod that for a game of soldiers!

so we were crap, but no game at all should be allowed to carry on in that fashion.anyone who thinks different needs their head testing imho. its also very poor to me, that our club has not attempted to explain the situation, no thought at all been given to fans who travelled far to see the gasme, or anyone else for that matter.

monkey hanger 12-11-2019 08:50

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
would have loved to have played gillingham instead of crewe on saturday just to see nasty mr.evans and his gobby assistant making of the situation.

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 10:20

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233603)
so we were crap, but no game at all should be allowed to carry on in that fashion.anyone who thinks different needs their head testing imho. its also very poor to me, that our club has not attempted to explain the situation, no thought at all been given to fans who travelled far to see the gasme, or anyone else for that matter.

We lost, we would've lost the replay, it's a highly unusual set of circumstances that will probably never happen to us again. File under: another strange experience as a Stanley fan!

cashman 12-11-2019 11:12

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233605)
We lost, we would've lost the replay, it's a highly unusual set of circumstances that will probably never happen to us again. File under: another strange experience as a Stanley fan!

thats the whole point summat like that should happen to NO club, i wish i could predict matches like you mate as well.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 11:26

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233608)
thats the whole point summat like that should happen to NO club, i wish i could predict matches like you mate as well.:rolleyes:

I hope you're not going to be still whinging about this at the Bolton match. Let it lie, mate, let it lie! 😁

cashman 12-11-2019 11:31

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233609)
I hope you're not going to be still whinging about this at the Bolton match. Let it lie, mate, let it lie! 😁

Sorry until the club have the decency to explain exactly what the score was i shall keep on.

Greeny 12-11-2019 11:32

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Last night sport with Dan Jewel on radio, Dan explained to Colin Hendry what happened, Colin asked "Is this for real? " "it sounds like Sunday league"

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 11:37

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233610)
Sorry until the club have the decency to explain exactly what the score was i shall keep on.

I know we all left before the second half, but surely you must know what the score was? 😁

cashman 12-11-2019 11:41

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233612)
I know we all left before the second half, but surely you must know what the score was? ��

well explain to us if you do, cos there was no mention of 1 liner or a toss up to see who had him.if you think thats fine then theres summat wrong with you,end of the day someone is taking the pish out of stanley.

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 11:43

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233613)
well explain to us if you do, cos there was no mention of 1 liner or a toss up to see who had him.if you think thats fine then theres summat wrong with you,

The score? We lost 2-0!

cashman 12-11-2019 11:47

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
cant understand you accepting this issue one bit.:confused:

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 12:00

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
No one is taking the pish out of Stanley.
The most ironic thing is, apart from psychologically - is that there was no arguing over whose throw in it was . . . and no arguing over Crewe being offside.

Maybe we don't need assistant ref's after all.....

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 12:03

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
So, if I don't "accept" it? If I carry on whinging about it ad infinitum? Will that change anything? Will Stanley get a replay or compensation? Don't think so. It was a strange, perhaps unprecedented situation and both clubs and officials were reacting to unforseen events, as they happened. In retrospect, perhaps they could have handled things differently. But it's happened now, it's history. I'm done with talking about it, but you carry on protesting. Good luck with that.

cashman 12-11-2019 12:20

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233616)
No one is taking the pish out of Stanley.
The most ironic thing is, apart from psychologically - is that there was no arguing over whose throw in it was . . . and no arguing over Crewe being offside.

Maybe we don't need assistant ref's after all.....

well Colin Hendry seemed to think so in his interview with dan and i will certainly take more notice of him than you josh thats for sure,

cashman 12-11-2019 12:22

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233617)
So, if I don't "accept" it? If I carry on whinging about it ad infinitum? Will that change anything? Will Stanley get a replay or compensation? Don't think so. It was a strange, perhaps unprecedented situation and both clubs and officials were reacting to unforseen events, as they happened. In retrospect, perhaps they could have handled things differently. But it's happened now, it's history. I'm done with talking about it, but you carry on protesting. Good luck with that.

i dont for 1 min expect it to change anything, what a good club would do is tell the fans exactly what occured at half time, but no they do not give a crap about the fans thats obvious.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 12:25

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233618)
well Colin Hendry seemed to think so in his interview with dan and i will certainly take more notice of him than you josh thats for sure,

So if we had gone on to win, would they be taking the 'pish' out of Crewe??
So many if's and but's.....

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 12:27

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233619)
i dont for 1 min expect it to change anything, what a good club would do is tell the fans exactly what occured at half time, but no they do not give a crap about the fans thats obvious.

You Sir have clearly been living under a rock for the last 4 years.
Don't give a crap about the fans?
You have lost your mind.

I think, apart from you, everyone is aware of what happened at half time.

Ref was injured, people offered to be lino, rejected as matter of fairness, no one knew what to do as unusual circumstance, rang FA and head of ref's, decision was made, coin flipped, 2nd half was played....

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 12:37

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233619)
i dont for 1 min expect it to change anything, what a good club would do is tell the fans exactly what occured at half time, but no they do not give a crap about the fans thats obvious.

So, Stanley aren't a "good" club who "don't give a crap about the fans"?? After all that Andy has done and all the changes that have taken place over the last few years? You're talking complete and utter drivel now. 😠

cashman 12-11-2019 13:04

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233622)
So, Stanley aren't a "good" club who "don't give a crap about the fans"?? After all that Andy has done and all the changes that have taken place over the last few years? You're talking complete and utter drivel now. 😠

Andy Holt cares always has, its whats actually running us a club level that dont, if thats drivel i will show my arse to the town hall clock, but you dream on if thats what yeh think.

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 13:45

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233623)
Andy Holt cares always has, its whats actually running us a club level that dont, if thats drivel i will show my arse to the town hall clock, but you dream on if thats what yeh think.

So Andy cares about the club, but he's appointed people to run the club who don't? Hmm...yeah, that makes sense. Stanley are one of the best-run clubs at all levels in the lower leagues. I understand that you're throwing your toys out of your pram, because you're disappointed after Saturday, but if you seriously think Stanley aren't a "good" club who "don't give a crap about their fans", you're on a completely different planet from me...and, I suspect, most fans.

cashman 12-11-2019 13:55

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233625)
So Andy cares about the club, but he's appointed people to run the club who don't? Hmm...yeah, that makes sense. Stanley are one of the best-run clubs at all levels in the lower leagues. I understand that you're throwing your toys out of your pram, because you're disappointed after Saturday, but if you seriously think Stanley aren't a "good" club who "don't give a crap about their fans", you're on a completely different planet from me...and, I suspect, most fans.

utter rubbish he has left in charge those that have taken the club to a place beyond all peoples expectations ok he has appointed some and the club is in a much better situation than its ever been, but thats nowt to do with what i am saying and you know damn well. and by the way who he left is understandable if you dont know the real story.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 14:11

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233626)
utter rubbish he has left in charge those that have taken the club to a place beyond all peoples expectations ok he has appointed some and the club is in a much better situation than its ever been, but thats nowt to do with what i am saying and you know damn well. and by the way who he left is understandable if you dont know the real story.

So what exactly are you saying and what exactly is your problem with the way the club is run?
Who he left is understandable? Care to elaborate because again that makes no sense.

In my opinion and disagree all you want, you are someone who turns up to games, watches and goes home. So how exactly would you like to be treated?

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 14:14

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
[QUOTE=cashman;123 he has left in charge those that have taken the club to a place beyond all peoples expectations ok he has appointed some and the club is in a much better situation than its ever been,[/QUOTE]

It says it all really, yet this is club that "don't give a crap about their fans"? Anyway, carry on grumbling, if that's what makes you happy. :rolleyes:

cashman 12-11-2019 14:17

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233627)
So what exactly are you saying and what exactly is your problem with the way the club is run?
Who he left is understandable? Care to elaborate because again that makes no sense.

In my opinion and disagree all you want, you are someone who turns up to games, watches and goes home. So how exactly would you like to be treated?

i have no intertion at all of elaborating on here for obvious reasons yo those with sense, wynonie knows what i,m on about and thats who i was saying too.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 14:19

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233629)
i have no intertion at all of elaborating on here for obvious reasons yo those with sense, wynonie knows what i,m on about and thats who i was saying too.

Care to answer my other two questions or again is that too 'secretive' for the Main Stand grumblers?

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 14:33

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233629)
i have no intertion at all of elaborating on here for obvious reasons yo those with sense, wynonie knows what i,m on about and thats who i was saying too.

I don't actually, but admittedly my memory's not what it was, so you'll have to tell me when I see you.

cashman 12-11-2019 14:41

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233631)
I don't actually, but admittedly my memory's not what it was, so you'll have to tell me when I see you.

i will if yeh remind me. lol

cashman 12-11-2019 14:43

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233630)
Care to answer my other two questions or again is that too 'secretive' for the Main Stand grumblers?

not a chance dont know you, so dont trust you. simple as.

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 14:44

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233632)
i will if yeh remind me. lol

I will if I remember. ;)

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 14:47

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233633)
not a chance dont know you, so dont trust you. simple as.

Absolutely pathetic.
All talk....
Point proven.

VALAIRIAN 12-11-2019 14:47

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233632)
i will if yeh remind me. lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233634)
I will if I remember. ;)

I will remind you both......... if I remember :D

:) :) :)

yonmon 12-11-2019 14:52

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233616)
No one is taking the pish out of Stanley.
The most ironic thing is, apart from psychologically - is that there was no arguing over whose throw in it was . . . and no arguing over Crewe being offside.

Maybe we don't need assistant ref's after all.....

Now Josh don't go looking for ironic nuances in all this . So far all the posts have been
succinct, accurate , and fascinating, and no one has been sanctioned YET !.
But Psychological irony, a theory with which I am unfamiliar sad to say ! :confused: .. But it sounds like an element which could throw this thread awry and will lead it on a different tack altogether if we're not very careful. ;)

What I really wanted to say was, that from my vantage point I noted Team Crewe pointing out on three occasions to that unfortunate gent( who must have done something terribly wrong in his life to find himself chosen to Referee what was left of the game !!)..that perhaps his decisions on throw-ins were inaccurate !.

Just thought I'd mention it !. :alright:

yonmon 12-11-2019 14:53

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1233636)
I will remind you both......... if I remember :D

:) :) :)

Me too !!. :tongueout

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 15:05

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1233637)
Now Josh don't go looking for ironic nuances in all this . So far all the posts have been
succinct, accurate , and fascinating, and no one has been sanctioned YET !.
But Psychological irony, a theory with which I am unfamiliar sad to say ! :confused: .. But it sounds like an element which could throw this thread awry and will lead it on a different tack altogether if we're not very careful. ;)

What I really wanted to say was, that from my vantage point I noted Team Crewe pointing out on three occasions to that unfortunate gent( who must have done something terribly wrong in his life to find himself chosen to Referee what was left of the game !!)..that perhaps his decisions on throw-ins were inaccurate !.

Just thought I'd mention it !. :alright:

Your posts and sentiments do make me chuckle Yonmon, thankyou :alright:

I have just realised what I was hoping to say wasn't what I wrote! I was more trying to put across a point that apart from it affecting the Stanley players psychologically, I honestly don't think it actually had a great deal of effect on the outcome of the game.

yonmon 12-11-2019 15:10

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233630)
Care to answer my other two questions or again is that too 'secretive' for the Main Stand grumblers?

Now Josh you're at it again !.. this time making sweeping generalisations !.

I do hope that your implication isn't that those, like me, who sit in the Main Stand ( which Cashman doesn't incidentally !). are ' grumblers '. If so i take exception to it !.
Everyone will tell you that they have never heard me call or grumble about any players or Managers who have represented this great club during the 70 years i have been
supporting the Club :cool::rolleyes::confused::p.

There are I will admit one or two in the Main Stand who purport to be supporters, yet regularly, by their fickle attitudes and comments, make one wonder how deep their loyalty actually is !.
But to say that we are all tarred with this ' grumbler ' brush is most unworthy of you..:rolleyes:

cashman 12-11-2019 15:14

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233635)
Absolutely pathetic.
All talk....
Point proven.

Its you thats pathetic,people can judge for themselves.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 15:17

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233642)
Its you thats pathetic,people can judge for themselves.

I didn't call you pathetic, however seems as we are going down the personal insult route again - will you please explain that?
on a public forum I have asked you explain your statements.
You refused.
Point proven (again)

yonmon 12-11-2019 15:23

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
MEMO TO MR.T !.....Am I the only one to feel that this thread is becoming, due to its veering off its originally intended topic, a little bit past its sell-by-date ?.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 15:24

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
it seems that this forum has turned into a cult - with only a select few's opinions being valid and any 'newcomers' views completely rejected.

cashman 12-11-2019 15:25

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233643)
I didn't call you pathetic, however seems as we are going down the personal insult route again - will you please explain that?
on a public forum I have asked you explain your statements.
You refused.
Point proven (again)

the only thing proved is what you are in my eyes.

yonmon 12-11-2019 15:27

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Memo to mr.t. !

Qed ?.

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 15:30

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233645)
it seems that this forum has turned into a cult - with only a select few's opinions being valid and any 'newcomers' views completely rejected.

Josh, you're free to state your views anytime you want on here.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 15:30

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
ANYWAYS!

see you all at Rotherham, let's be the 12th man, regardless of opinions we are all in this for one common goal (I think/hope) , to see the mighty Stanley succeed!

yonmon 12-11-2019 15:32

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
And so friends ... as the sun sinks over the Coppice End. Another thread bites the dust !

YEE HAAAAH !.

Div3North 12-11-2019 16:01

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1233636)
I will remind you both......... if I remember :D

:) :) :)

Would it help if I remind you Joe?

If I er ......errrr ............ errrr .... thingy :alright:

choirboy 12-11-2019 16:42

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
The result of this extraordinary match is totally irrelevant!:o
I do not believe in the result and a win for Stanley being the only thing that matters!:confused:
The point that I was trying to make was that the Football Association need to reflect upon the events of last Saturday and make changes to their instructions to referees in order to ensure that this never happens again, not only at Accrington but anywhere in the professional game of football.
:jimbo:

ON STANLEY ON:theband:

cashman 12-11-2019 17:59

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1233653)
The result of this extraordinary match is totally irrelevant!:o
I do not believe in the result and a win for Stanley being the only thing that matters!:confused:
The point that I was trying to make was that the Football Association need to reflect upon the events of last Saturday and make changes to their instructions to referees in order to ensure that this never happens again, not only at Accrington but anywhere in the professional game of football.
:jimbo:

ON STANLEY ON:theband:

at last someone with sense.

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 18:13

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233654)
at last someone with sense.

Yep, the only people with any sense are the ones who agree with Cashy. That sounds fair and reasonable. :rolleyes:

cashman 12-11-2019 18:33

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
aye well look who they are both are sensible folk.

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 18:40

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233656)
aye well look who they are both are sensible folk.

If believing that Stanley "doesn't give a crap about its fans" constitutes sense, I'm glad not to be sensible.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 18:44

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233656)
aye well look who they are both are sensible folk.

You don’t know me.

cashman 12-11-2019 18:45

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233658)
You don’t know me.

Exactly.

Exile on Spencer St 12-11-2019 18:47

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233659)
Exactly.

Don’t bring up that b****y milk advert again! :rolleyes:

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 19:04

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233659)
Exactly.

So dont imply I have no sense.

cashman 12-11-2019 19:08

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233661)
So dont imply I have no sense.

you read it that way, i wonder why.

cashman 12-11-2019 19:13

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233635)
Absolutely pathetic.
All talk....
Point proven.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233643)
I didn't call you pathetic, however seems as we are going down the personal insult route again - will you please explain that?
on a public forum I have asked you explain your statements.
You refused.
Point proven (again)

talking of implying? as you dont know me nor i you, i suggest it stays that way.

StanleyJosh 12-11-2019 19:52

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233663)
talking of implying? as you dont know me nor i you, i suggest it stays that way.

You’ll have to listen to me at every Stanley game anyway :D;);)

cashman 12-11-2019 20:01

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233665)
You’ll have to listen to me at every Stanley game anyway :D;);)

that dont matter im deaf as a doorpost.:D

yonmon 12-11-2019 21:21

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
MR.T... where are you ?.. :cool:

Wynonie Harris 12-11-2019 21:34

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Just to point out a few things about Josh (and I hope he doesn't mind me saying this). He's the treasurer of the Supporters' Club. He and his partner moved from Bristol to Accrington, simply because they love Stanley so much. In fact, he's exactly the sort of devoted and enthusiastic fan we need to attract! Just saying. :)

AccyMad 13-11-2019 06:03

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1233668)
MR.T... where are you ?.. :cool:

Probably still thumbing through the FA rulebook . . . . . . . . (I'll get me coat) :)

yonmon 13-11-2019 08:54

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1233669)
Just to point out a few things about Josh (and I hope he doesn't mind me saying this). He's the treasurer of the Supporters' Club. He and his partner moved from Bristol to Accrington, simply because they love Stanley so much. In fact, he's exactly the sort of devoted and enthusiastic fan we need to attract! Just saying. :)

Wyn !.. He really is welcome then !.. not only as a devoted fan and valuable asset to the Supporters Club, as you have previously noted, but one who is always welcome to add his thoughts and opinions to our Forum ..

BUT.. ... More than this, as he admits to being one who is able to find something to make him chuckle in my posts he must be nurtured . Such potential fans are not so readily found these days, believe you me !. :rolleyes::cool:. So Josh ... make an old man very happy and keep 'em coming !! . :alright:

ON STANLEY !... ON TO GREATER THINGS !!.


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