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Kiwi John 09-11-2019 06:24

The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Couldnt resist as no one else had kicked one off, and its not a league match. GO STANLEY.:D

VALAIRIAN 09-11-2019 07:59

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1233422)
Couldnt resist as no one else had kicked one off, and its not a league match. GO STANLEY.:D

Why did you have to start this one!!!! :D

Last thing I need is the KJ kiss of death ;)

:) :) :)

cashman 09-11-2019 08:38

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
it could already have got the kiss of death mate,;)

AccyMad 09-11-2019 10:45

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Very funny KJ, hope it doesn't come back to bite us on the you know what :D

DAV007 09-11-2019 14:53

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Poor so far

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 14:56

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
&*%&%^#$@&*(&%^%&%!!! :(

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 14:57

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
How come the loooooong first half??

DAV007 09-11-2019 15:29

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Officials are injured

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 15:34

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
OK...thanks...

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 15:36

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
..the result of more 'dirty' play by STANLEY?

ossy kid 09-11-2019 15:42

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
A little more info please, the other games are in to 80th minute and Stanley still stuck at half time on BBC sport?

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 15:46

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Yeah, whats the guts?

DAV007 09-11-2019 15:49

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Stanley want it called off, Crewe don't

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 15:51

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Thanks DAV...is that because we are playing ****?

ossy kid 09-11-2019 15:56

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
What's wrong with the officials other than the usual?

Exile on Spencer St 09-11-2019 15:56

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1233443)
Thanks DAV...is that because we are playing ****?

That and YOU started this thread! :rolleyes:

Chewbacca 09-11-2019 15:58

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Don't be impatient, you will find out at the post match interviews at 10pm.

If 2 officials get injured there are usually no more replacements at the game, some one may have needed to be brought in which would stake a while.

Exile on Spencer St 09-11-2019 15:58

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
5Live just said second half will commence at 17:10pm! Two officials crocked.
Get Coley on one line and Crewe manager on t’other

DAV007 09-11-2019 16:02

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1233443)
Thanks DAV...is that because we are playing ****?

It's back on, start 2nd half shortly



That was the rumour going round aka Crewe desperate to play on

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 16:02

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
The bar sales will be doing well I guess..

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 16:11

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Here we go..back on..

Exile on Spencer St 09-11-2019 16:12

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
McMarmite off, :eek: Charles on! :)

cashman 09-11-2019 16:17

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
i must assume its down to the F,A. this? for me after 30 mins after half time it should be abandoned, many cannot stay that long for various reasons,

Exile on Spencer St 09-11-2019 16:23

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233452)
i must assume its down to the F,A. this? for me after 30 mins after half time it should be abandoned, many cannot stay that long for various reasons,

Maybe McConville had to get home to put the tea on? ;)

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 16:27

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...or shoot down the road to cancel McDonalds order... :(

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 16:34

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Feck . &^$^&%#&^$%#@%$#@#&^&$&^$@&^%$^%(*^$%#&^%$^%(*& %

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 16:39

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quick-Abandon the game

cashman 09-11-2019 16:42

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
By the way the Yeovil cup match was off today Ground Waterlogged, that should really wind somerset up see theres always a bright side.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 16:44

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Red card-it just gets better...

cashman 09-11-2019 16:45

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1233459)
Red card-it just gets better...

well to me that has got better kiwi.

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 16:45

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Can imagine that Somerset dickhead turning up on here and blaming the pitch for the officials' injuries...

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 17:02

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Well, that was disappointing...now for the wrath of a certain MadAccy supporter... :(

Lord Stiffupperlip 09-11-2019 17:58

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Stanley 'Ko'd!' (Kiss of death) by Kiwi John

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 18:00

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
:(

Watchdog 09-11-2019 18:04

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Second half played without an assistant referee on the main stand side attacking the Accrington goal.
The officials are chosen by the EFL so obviously no fault of either side and so I cant understand why we (Stanley) should agree to continue with the second half, being a goal down and, with no linesman attacking our goal.
It must be said that we were at sixes and sevens especially in the first half and in my opinion didn't deserve to win the game.
We go again next week, C'mon you mighty Reds.

AccyMad 09-11-2019 18:34

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1233463)
Well, that was disappointing...now for the wrath of a certain MadAccy supporter... :(

I've just about thawed out enough to get cross with you Kiwi - but firstly, what an absolute farce of a second half!
Apparently the ref they drafted in hadn't officiated a game for 7 years, add in carrying on with only one linesman & you can imagine the carnage that ensued.
Included in the catalogue of errors were the ref tripping up & therefore completely missed seeing a bad foul on Sam which would have given us a free kick in a dangerous area,
he also waved away a stonewall penalty but for his piece de resistance he gave us a throw in but then changed his mind & went with a dropped b, all!
That said, based on the first half performance, Crewe probably deserved the win but the way the game played out leaves a bitter taste.
And Kiwi, for once I don't blame you for us losing today - that was down to an insipid first half performance, an in-form Crewe team & a very unfortunate & weird chain of events

cashman 09-11-2019 18:44

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
no question at all crewe deserved the win, but why the hell we play 1 up front at home defies logic to me. colby was heading the ball on to ghosts cos no-one was there,

ferret man 09-11-2019 18:52

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
And a ref with no whistle at that

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 18:54

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
What actually happened that caused two officials to leave the game ? ..

yonmon 09-11-2019 19:09

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Well that was a strange afternoon !. Not only with the situation surrounding the Officials but also that fact that the Reds were definitely not up for it at all.
There seemed to be a general ' couldn't care less ' attitude about the team which resulted in just one meaningful shot on goal, a sterile midfield, and a defence which were much too slow in dealing with the pace of the Crewe attack force.

All in all it made for grim viewing for the watcher, and another salutary reminder that no goals are being scored, or indeed that it is difficult to see where these will come from !

I was, and I stand ready to be corrected, always given to understand that two linesmen/referees assistants were the minimum requirements where controlling a football,.match was concerned. If so why was today's game allowed to be played with one ?. In similar circumstances would tomorrow's Liverpool v Man City game be allowed to progress ?... I think not !.

However, Obladee Oblada life goes on. !.... and dare I say it , The Reds can now concentrate on League business ! ( I'm sure I've heard that somewhere before ! ).

ON STANLEY !.. ON !,.. TO EVEN GREATER THINGS !.

AccyMad 09-11-2019 19:14

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1233470)
And a ref with no whistle at that

Oh yeah, I forgot that one - maybe after 7 years of not being used his pea had dried up :rolleyes:

AccyMad 09-11-2019 19:16

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1233471)
What actually happened that caused two officials to leave the game ? ..

Apparently the first one pulled his hamstring, don't know about the second one - they just said he needed medical treatment

DAV007 09-11-2019 19:52

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Massive missed opportunity of a cup run, no additional funds this season

Kiwi John 09-11-2019 19:52

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Thank you mad one

AccyMad 09-11-2019 19:54

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1233478)
Thank you mad one

You're welcome, jinxed one :D

andyd 09-11-2019 19:56

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Absolutely appalling Stanley performance can,t see where the next goal is coming from Coleman still sticking with same 11 saying they have been playing well must watch a different set of games and a lot of fans around me saying the same thing today, Simpson on bench today must be praying to bo back to Preston awful up front all 4 of them Coley yet again waits till 2 down to change things should have been done around the 60 minute mark, but saying that we were bad right through the side today.PS same starting 11 next week anyone.

Lord Stiffupperlip 09-11-2019 20:22

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Had a feeling as soon as the cup draw was made that Crewe would prove to be, yet again, our bogey team.
However, the stats from the game paint a depressing picture of an out-of-form team struggling to compete against lower league opponents currently enjoying momentum.
League 2 Crewe enjoyed 53% possession - away from home!
They had 12 shots on goal - 6 on target.
We had 11 - with a pathetic 1 on target.
Most worrying of all, we conceded 15 fouls, including 2 yellow & 1 red card.
Perhaps the unwelcome title as the dirtiest team in football is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I've enjoyed so many moments over the past few years, in both cup & league, when I've been proud to be a Stanley fan.
Today was not one of them.

andyd 09-11-2019 20:42

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1233483)
Had a feeling as soon as the cup draw was made that Crewe would prove to be, yet again, our bogey team.
However, the stats from the game paint a depressing picture of an out-of-form team struggling to compete against lower league opponents currently enjoying momentum.
League 2 Crewe enjoyed 53% possession - away from home!
They had 12 shots on goal - 6 on target.
We had 11 - with a pathetic 1 on target.
Most worrying of all, we conceded 15 fouls, including 2 yellow & 1 red card.
Perhaps the unwelcome title as the dirtiest team in football is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I've enjoyed so many moments over the past few years, in both cup & league, when I've been proud to be a Stanley fan.
Today was not one of them.

It was that bad I can,t even remember our one shot on target, not scoring goals obviously affects strikers confidence but this is now spred right through the team,as I have previously said this large squad that's been assembled seems to lack league 1 standards and this is rapidly unfortunately turning into one of the poorer Stanley sides for quite a while need to turn this home form around before our new found support starts to dwindle today back to hardcore 1250,ish.

StanleyJosh 09-11-2019 22:04

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Can’t fathom why we played 1 up top.
Colby won a lot in the air but no one near him to pick up the 2nd ball.
Dimi was shaky throughout - fear is Bursik not being up to scratch and again missing in future due to international callups.
Opoku far too casual.
Clicker yet again missing throughout; golden chance completely wasted.
Forgot McConville was even playing after 20 mins.
Seamus covered so much ground; really let down by Callum and Finley .

Carvalho and Simpson shouldn’t be in the squad.

People desperate for subs.... really? What options do we have from the bench.....
Start Charles instead of Pritchard.
No one else even comes close to being in starting 11.

Revived Red 09-11-2019 23:04

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Well it was certainly a long way to travel for 45 minutes football. :( My train leaves Accrington at 17.13 so I was never going to be able to see even the start of the 2nd half. Many thanks to Valairian for giving me the vital information.

andyd 10-11-2019 07:04

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233489)
Can’t fathom why we played 1 up top.
Colby won a lot in the air but no one near him to pick up the 2nd ball.
Dimi was shaky throughout - fear is Bursik not being up to scratch and again missing in future due to international callups.
Opoku far too casual.
Clicker yet again missing throughout; golden chance completely wasted.
Forgot McConville was even playing after 20 mins.
Seamus covered so much ground; really let down by Callum and Finley .

Carvalho and Simpson shouldn’t be in the squad.

People desperate for subs.... really? What options do we have from the bench.....
Start Charles instead of Pritchard.
No one else even comes close to being in starting 11.

Like I said a squad assembled of lack of league 1 standards including the starting 11.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 07:53

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Tough for us to assemble a squad of League 1 standard thought let’s be real.

yonmon 10-11-2019 08:16

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1233495)
Like I said a squad assembled of lack of league 1 standards including the starting 11.

A quote from JC went something like .. ' We will just have to regroup ! 'and the thought crossed my mind ' regroup into what ? '.
The current squad are collectively the worst that have represented our Club for some time now in my humble opinion . They lack drive , cohesion, and sad to say , a will to compete .
I know that I whinge on a bit, but I only compare them with other teams we have seen this Season , Crewe and it's team of keen, lively and obviously committed youngsters being the latest to prove my theory .

Come on you Reds !!!.

Revived Red 10-11-2019 08:48

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
I can only comment on the first 45 minutes - but what a huge contrast between the teams. Nicky Hunt, playing centre back for Crewe, was able to pass to an available and unmarked Crewe player on every occasion. By contrast we constantly played hoofball to our solitary striker.

And there is something else!

Throw-ins!!! I remember writing some 6 or 7 years ago about our total lack of guile at throw-ins. Nothing has changed. There is no movement whatsoever and the thrower tries to find our striker in the hope of a flick on.

On reflection, I am quite pleased that I could not stay for the second half which, by all accounts, was worse than the first.

VALAIRIAN 10-11-2019 08:55

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
We have lost Barlaser from the midfield, Ozzy is not half the player he was and we all know about Billy.

Apart from that, most of the lads are the same as last season, so what has changed??

:) :) :)

Revived Red 10-11-2019 09:22

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
The Stanley website says it was Opoku who gave away the penalty but having just watched the highlights (so-called :confused::confused:) surely it was Conneely.

andyd 10-11-2019 09:51

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233496)
Tough for us to assemble a squad of League 1 standard thought let’s be real.

It,s obviously all about budgets we know that but personally and talking to other fans why such a huge squad especially when it seems like we are reluctant to use them I would have preferred a smaller squad all right you could be hit by injuries but could have brought in a bit more quality unless it comes back to a previous post of mine we struggled to attract them.

andyd 10-11-2019 09:53

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1233500)
We have lost Barlaser from the midfield, Ozzy is not half the player he was and we all know about Billy.

Apart from that, most of the lads are the same as last season, so what has changed??

:) :) :)

We struggled last season with those you have just mentioned we have not replaced them with anything better.

monkey hanger 10-11-2019 10:27

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
from a personal viewpoint giving the game a swerve yesteday was a result for me. without the necessary number of match officials the game should have been abandoned no matter what the score was at the time. even if stanley were say 4 up at the time it should not have carried on. fans of all clubs say that it only happens to us. well anyone knows stuff like this only happens at stanley. would have been interested what would have happened if stanley had refused to play on. think haringay set a precident the other week after their keeper was racially abused by yeovil fans and the team walked off. there has been some farces at the wham over the years but this must be the top of the list of tin pot decisions affecting the club no matter how the team performed or didn,t whatever the case was.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 10:56

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1233504)
from a personal viewpoint giving the game a swerve yesteday was a result for me. without the necessary number of match officials the game should have been abandoned no matter what the score was at the time. even if stanley were say 4 up at the time it should not have carried on. fans of all clubs say that it only happens to us. well anyone knows stuff like this only happens at stanley. would have been interested what would have happened if stanley had refused to play on. think haringay set a precident the other week after their keeper was racially abused by yeovil fans and the team walked off. there has been some farces at the wham over the years but this must be the top of the list of tin pot decisions affecting the club no matter how the team performed or didn,t whatever the case was.

You can not compare racism to something that is in an official rule book, thus irrelevant of if teams want to continue or not.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 10:59

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1233502)
It,s obviously all about budgets we know that but personally and talking to other fans why such a huge squad especially when it seems like we are reluctant to use them I would have preferred a smaller squad all right you could be hit by injuries but could have brought in a bit more quality unless it comes back to a previous post of mine we struggled to attract them.

Numbers game, you take a punt on 10 average players in the hope that 1/2 become gems.
Jackson had never shone anywhere before he came to us.
Barlaser had played 4 games in League 2 (most as a sub!) before he game to us.
Just 2 examples, plenty more.....

Personally I think Bishop has done extremely well given circumstances.
Everyone is raving about Aji and Jerome....
So is it the current players and not new ones we should be concerned about....

DAV007 10-11-2019 11:08

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Holt can't be happy about being out both major cups so early after spending a large amount on the ground

cashman 10-11-2019 11:14

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233505)
You can not compare racism to something that is in an official rule book, thus irrelevant of if teams want to continue or not.

So its in the rule book, that dont make it the right thing to do? do you honestly think if that had hasppened this afternoon at ANFIELD that Guardiola @ Klopp would have accepted it? cosd you must be in a big minority if so.

Greeny 10-11-2019 11:23

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
For what it is worth, I left at 4.45 wrongly thinking the game would be called off. At home on radio Dan Jewel hit the nail on the head when he said " there is £36,000 riding on this game , it is a FA cup round , yet we are to play on with just one linesman who will have to guess what is going on as he can not see the entire pitch!!!!!
I do agree Stanley 'hadn't turned up today but come on this was a complete farce , would this happen with premier teams?? exactly.

yonmon 10-11-2019 11:37

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 1233510)
For what it is worth, I left at 4.45 wrongly thinking the game would be called off. At home on radio Dan Jewel hit the nail on the head when he said " there is £36,000 riding on this game , it is a FA cup round , yet we are to play on with just one linesman who will have to guess what is going on as he can not see the entire pitch!!!!!
I do agree Stanley 'hadn't turned up today but come on this was a complete farce , would this happen with premier teams?? exactly.

Greeny !.. Whoever from Stanley agreed to carry on with the ridiculous format we were unfortunatel to witness for 45+ minutes must have their judgement seriously questioned.
The Crewe Manager was cock-a-hoop with the decision , and why wouldn't he be ?...
He also helped the referee to make his mind up on a couple of occasions !.

It was not a 'friendly ' match. If did carry some importance, and Cash, with it. So some serious consideration should have been given to this fact before making the decision to carry on. But here I go whingeing again!.. time to shut up methinks !.

monkey hanger 10-11-2019 11:44

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
[QUOTE=cashman;1233509]So its in the rule book,

did anyone at stanley knew it actually was in the rule book. begs a question is it in the rule book or another case of a phone call and someone making it up as they went along.

monkey hanger 10-11-2019 11:50

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1233511)

It was not a 'friendly ' match. If did carry some importance, and Cash, with it. So some serious consideration should have been given to this fact before making the decision to carry on. But here I go whingeing again!.. time to shut up methinks !.

do not class it as a whinge but a sensible comment on the situation that happened. even in a bottom division sunday league game a team can refuse to play if the ref does not turn up and they cannot agree on anyone doing the job. there is no sanction on this refusal either.

Revived Red 10-11-2019 12:27

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1233501)
The Stanley website says it was Opoku who gave away the penalty but having just watched the highlights (so-called :confused::confused:) surely it was Conneely.

Website now corrected!!! ;);)

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 13:03

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233509)
So its in the rule book, that dont make it the right thing to do? do you honestly think if that had hasppened this afternoon at ANFIELD that Guardiola @ Klopp would have accepted it? cosd you must be in a big minority if so.

The rule should be change. but it was correct in the situation.
it’s not a question of acceptance.
should never have happened but it did.
just like the handball rule....

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 13:04

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1233513)
do not class it as a whinge but a sensible comment on the situation that happened. even in a bottom division sunday league game a team can refuse to play if the ref does not turn up and they cannot agree on anyone doing the job. there is no sanction on this refusal either.

The original referee in charge made the decision because it was a rule.
Right or wrong he isn’t going to go against it.
Especially as 1 team wanted to continue to play.
If we had flat out refused; we would have been sanctioned.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 13:06

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Awful game management from Stanley.
Alese lucky not to be sent off for the most ridiculous lunge two footed off the ground; fortunately he didn’t connect with their player

yonmon 10-11-2019 13:31

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1233513)
do not class it as a whinge but a sensible comment on the situation that happened. even in a bottom division sunday league game a team can refuse to play if the ref does not turn up and they cannot agree on anyone doing the job. there is no sanction on this refusal either.

MH ! . As someone who I respect,and as a Referee knows the rules appertaining to a situation like the one under discussion .
Stanleyjosh says that had whoever was representing the Reds at halftime had not agreed to
carry on the game , then the Club would have been sanctioned.
Now, to someone who doesnt know the rules whatsoever, will you please try to explain to me if this is in fact the truth of the matter ?.
If it is, then it would certainly have had a bearing on the actions taken on behalf of the Reds.
It would certainly have been good reason to carry on linesman-less, and I can forget all about it and enjoy a late lunch at ease with myself !.

cashman 10-11-2019 14:34

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
well i will certainly take notice of what M.H. says on this matter. myself i cannot think the F.A. who have many faults, are that stupid.

cashman 10-11-2019 15:09

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
crewes manager says jimmy bell offered to run the line and he agreed. then jimmy changed his mind:confused: think the fans deserve an explanation?

cashman 10-11-2019 15:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233516)
The original referee in charge made the decision because it was a rule.
Right or wrong he isn’t going to go against it.
Especially as 1 team wanted to continue to play.
If we had flat out refused; we would have been sanctioned.

Are you 100% sure of that? if so please show us this rule.then everyone can shut up. i can find nowt on the F.A.s site that covers this.

andyd 10-11-2019 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233506)
Numbers game, you take a punt on 10 average players in the hope that 1/2 become gems.
Jackson had never shone anywhere before he came to us.
Barlaser had played 4 games in League 2 (most as a sub!) before he game to us.
Just 2 examples, plenty more.....

Personally I think Bishop has done extremely well given circumstances.
Everyone is raving about Aji and Jerome....
So is it the current players and not new ones we should be concerned about....

That,s my point picked every week with plenty of new faces not considered.

AccyMad 10-11-2019 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233520)
crewes manager says jimmy bell offered to run the line and he agreed. then jimmy changed his mind:confused: think the fans deserve an explanation?

It wasn't Jimmy, it was his son Elliott & there was the possibility of a friend of one of Crewe's players doing it but neither was thought to be appropriate for obvious reasons

cashman 10-11-2019 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1233524)
It wasn't Jimmy, it was his son Elliott & there was the possibility of a friend of one of Crewe's players doing it but neither was thought to be appropriate for obvious reasons

ah i was just quoting what crewes manager said on there site.

yonmon 10-11-2019 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233520)
crewes manager says jimmy bell offered to run the line and he agreed. then jimmy changed his mind:confused: think the fans deserve an explanation?

Was I heard that It was Jimmy ' s Nephew, who is apparently a qualified Referee who's name was suggested. But was turned down to protect him should he appear to have bias
when making important decisions.

But who can say ?.. What is true is that the Reds were beaten by faster, skilful and hungry young players wanting to win the tie and the lolly !. The worrying thing was that tactically they had no answer to the play produced by Crewe!.. So who is at fault there ?

I hope that the corner they need to turn is not too far down the line !... ON STANLEY.. ON !.

cashman 10-11-2019 17:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1233527)
Was I heard that It was Jimmy ' s Nephew, who is apparently a qualified Referee who's name was suggested. But was turned down to protect him should he appear to have bias
when making important decisions.

But who can say ?.. What is true is that the Reds were beaten by faster, skilful and hungry young players wanting to win the tie and the lolly !. The worrying thing was that tactically they had no answer to the play produced by Crewe!.. So who is at fault there ?

I hope that the corner they need to turn is not too far down the line !... ON STANLEY.. ON !.

oh i agree we were beaten by a far better side on the day, but thats not the point, if the rules are as stanley josh says then they are a joke, and like you i have no idea if thats the case.;)

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1233522)
That,s my point picked every week with plenty of new faces not considered.

New faces simply not good enough.
We’ve seen Maguire, we’ve seen ZFA, we’ve seen Kaba Sherif, we’ve seen Carvalho, we’ve seen Simpson, we’ve seen Bursik and not one of those deserved to start.
Coley sees them in training almost daily.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 18:03

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Too much hearsay.
As AccyMad rightly said, Jimmy Bells son James offered as he is a qualified ref, so did a Crewe fan and their spotter although mutually agreed unfair as based.
Unsure as to why ref’s assessor didn’t come into equation.
Phone calls at half time to FA & Mike Jones led to the outcome.

Rules are ridiculous. Just like VAR, new handball rule, stoppage time rule, new subs rule, new free kick rule etc.
Only good new one is no more contested drop balls.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1233509)
So its in the rule book, that dont make it the right thing to do? do you honestly think if that had hasppened this afternoon at ANFIELD that Guardiola @ Klopp would have accepted it? cosd you must be in a big minority if so.

No, but they have to put up with the joke that is VAR.
That’s bad enough, don’t make them suffer more haha!

andyd 10-11-2019 18:19

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233530)
New faces simply not good enough.
We’ve seen Maguire, we’ve seen ZFA, we’ve seen Kaba Sherif, we’ve seen Carvalho, we’ve seen Simpson, we’ve seen Bursik and not one of those deserved to start.
Coley sees them in training almost daily.

Diallo looked good at Oldham picking out passes and scored an excellent goal not been seen since Rodgers the forgotten man I could go on you can't say players aren't up to it if they don't play ok I already said we have below league 1 standard players but we have to change some things Simpson scored against Liverpool's kids but he took it well hit the target which nobody in the 11 are doing.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1233534)
Diallo looked good at Oldham picking out passes and scored an excellent goal not been seen since Rodgers the forgotten man I could go on you can't say players aren't up to it if they don't play ok I already said we have below league 1 standard players but we have to change some things Simpson scored against Liverpool's kids but he took it well hit the target which nobody in the 11 are doing.

Diallo is injured.
Did you see Simpson in Lancs Cup?
Another Connor Hall.....

yonmon 10-11-2019 18:52

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233530)
New faces simply not good enough.
We’ve seen Maguire, we’ve seen ZFA, we’ve seen Kaba Sherif, we’ve seen Carvalho, we’ve seen Simpson, we’ve seen Bursik and not one of those deserved to start.
Coley sees them in training almost daily.

And I notice that you dont mention the ' old ' faces who are currently underproducing .
The Wunderkind who looks totally disinterested for most of the time and just doesn't score or make telling crosses anymore. Our aging Centre Back who is now getting the runround every week, and of course our Captain who's preferred pass is still backwards or sideways putting Defenders and his fellow midfielder under unnecessary pressure, and unlike most other League 1 midfield players doesn't score goals or provide any threat in the opponents goalmouth !.
As I remarked earlier in my opinion the current squad is probably the worst that JC has had to work with, and sad to say do not improve as the weeks go by !.
But here I go again.. In a few years time I'll be a real old moaner !.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 19:10

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1233537)
And I notice that you dont mention the ' old ' faces who are currently underproducing .
The Wunderkind who looks totally disinterested for most of the time and just doesn't score or make telling crosses anymore. Our aging Centre Back who is now getting the runround every week, and of course our Captain who's preferred pass is still backwards or sideways putting Defenders and his fellow midfielder under unnecessary pressure, and unlike most other League 1 midfield players doesn't score goals or provide any threat in the opponents goalmouth !.
As I remarked earlier in my opinion the current squad is probably the worst that JC has had to work with, and sad to say do not improve as the weeks go by !.
But here I go again.. In a few years time I'll be a real old moaner !.

I was referring to the new players from the original comment made.
But seems you mention it,
The Wunderkind as you put it was our top scorer last season....
He’s also had our most shots and assists this season.
Not become a bad player overnight.
Our aging centre back who has guided/been a part of the training of young Sykes to become the player he is.
And our Captain who has probably been our best player for at least the last 5 games. Why on earth would you want a defensive midfielder that high up the pitch.
Think the question should be more why hasn’t Finley scored more.....

& on the subject of our club captain; who would you play instead of him.
Choices right now realistically are
LKS - poor positional play
Diallo - Injured
Pritchard - too weak (another reason shouldn’t be playing as a false 9)
Johnson - too weak , and why ruin the Johnson/Clicker combo even if it’s predictable
Barclay - a centre half naturally who we tried converting into a midfielder and now can’t get in the squad

So can someone please try and convince me we shouldn’t play our club captain?
(don’t even get me started on the whole ‘shouldn’t be captain debate either!!)

Anyone seen the highlights on YouTube and wonder where on Earth big Jerome was defensively and why he was virtually walking back to defend?

pifco 10-11-2019 20:07

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I can only go by the first half because for the first time in my life I left a match early because I didn't think that the match would be completed and didn't think that the FA would allow the game to become the farce that it did and finish up as a joke on the BBc FA Cup Roundup. As for the players I don't think any of them could be judged to have had a good day but most disappointing thing to me was in the first half many of them didn't seem to be interested in the game and that is not something that we are used to at the Wham.

DAV007 10-11-2019 20:09

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No doubt Conneely has has improved slightly but he's still struggles at league 1 level and can't be the answer long term if we plan on staying in league 1 long term.

Sam Finley is the most talented midfielder in the squadand IMO should be the first name on the team sheet.

Exile on Spencer St 10-11-2019 20:34

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Now, now, Davo
Love not hate.:rolleyes:

Revived Red 10-11-2019 20:51

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233538)

Anyone seen the highlights on YouTube and wonder where on Earth big Jerome was defensively and why he was virtually walking back to defend?

In that miserable first half, I thought that Jerome was our best attacking threat by far. If he is going on one of his attacking forays, why doesn't another player cover for him? At least he was willing to take on the opposition, unlike McConville.

And speaking of McConville, are you convinced that your stats are correct? According to the FootyStats website, he makes an assist every 942 minutes and is 309th out of 383 players. Joe Pritchard on the other hand makes an assist every 326 minutes and is 26th out of 383 players in League 1.

I have to admit that I am far from enthusiastic about statistics but I was intrigued by a totally different stat on FootyStats. 23% of our goals conceded have been conceded in the last 10 minutes. In total contrast 0% of our goals have been scored in the last 10 minutes. Definite food for thought there.

StanleyJosh 10-11-2019 21:00

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I have McConville, Pritchard and Opoku joint top with 2 assists each.
Clicker on 1.
Pritchard better assists per minutes on pitch ratio.

mab 10-11-2019 21:13

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:( First time i've ever left a football match at half time in 40yrs of watching live football!! other commitments and freezing conditions and 1hr delay for the 2nd half to start :( forced me to do what i've never ever done before :(My HO is the FA are an ass and the rules are stupid the game should have been abandoned and a new date issued at a later date. having said that I hope that the two Ref's are ok and make a full recovery ..

yonmon 10-11-2019 22:10

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1233538)
I was referring to the new players from the original comment made.
But seems you mention it,
The Wunderkind as you put it was our top scorer last season....
He’s also had our most shots and assists this season.
Not become a bad player overnight.
Our aging centre back who has guided/been a part of the training of young Sykes to become the player he is.
And our Captain who has probably been our best player for at least the last 5 games. Why on earth would you want a defensive midfielder that high up the pitch.
Think the question should be more why hasn’t Finley scored more.....

& on the subject of our club captain; who would you play instead of him.
Choices right now realistically are
LKS - poor positional play
Diallo - Injured
Pritchard - too weak (another reason shouldn’t be playing as a false 9)
Johnson - too weak , and why ruin the Johnson/Clicker combo even if it’s predictable
Barclay - a centre half naturally who we tried converting into a midfielder and now can’t get in the squad

So can someone please try and convince me we shouldn’t play our club captain?
(don’t even get me started on the whole ‘shouldn’t be captain debate either!!)

Anyone seen the highlights on YouTube and wonder where on Earth big Jerome was defensively and why he was virtually walking back to defend?

I didn't say that our Captain shouldn't play . If you read my post accurately I merely lumped him together with two more of the squad's ' underproducing ' players.
In spite of your claims regarding past glories, and rather tenuous allusions to their influence on other players, they are not producing these performances this season.
If they were then our tally of goals would be higher and the dearth of points which keeps us in a slot at the bottom of the league would not be the status quo !.
Finley hasn't scored more goals because he too loks llike he is in limbo at present and doesn't seem to know exactly what his role is in the present tactical setup .

ps. Incidentally, I wouldn't dream of getting you started on ' the shouldnt be Captain debate ' or indeed started on anything whatsoever !. Such unseemly behaviour is not in my armoury ! :rolleyes:

Lord Stiffupperlip 10-11-2019 23:06

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
This tedious & incessant criticism - from all quarters, of virtually every player in the squad only diverts responsibility from where it truly lies -
THE MANAGER!
He picks the team, decides the formation & dictates the tactics.
The fact that L2 Crewe came & virtually dominated the game only proves how oh-so predictable we've become.
John Coleman was as culpable for yesterdays defeat as any member of the team, yet seems to have escaped scot free from any criticism.
Silly me! Of course it's all the players fault!.....

cashman 11-11-2019 07:40

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1233548)
This tedious & incessant criticism - from all quarters, of virtually every player in the squad only diverts responsibility from where it truly lies -
THE MANAGER!
He picks the team, decides the formation & dictates the tactics.
The fact that L2 Crewe came & virtually dominated the game only proves how oh-so predictable we've become.
John Coleman was as culpable for yesterdays defeat as any member of the team, yet seems to have escaped scot free from any criticism.
Silly me! Of course it's all the players fault!.....

i agree but we will no doubt get slammed for critising the super one,:( still it dont bother me a lot theres clowns everywhere in football. i still havent seen this rule yet either from one who stated that is is one, doubt if i will.:rolleyes:

Morecambe_Red 11-11-2019 07:51

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
I only heard what was going on via Radio Lancs on the way home from Blackpool. Haven't seen any highlights but if there was only a liner on one side of the pitch who was watching for the ball going over the lines on the other side of the pitch ?

andyd 11-11-2019 07:51

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1233541)
No doubt Conneely has has improved slightly but he's still struggles at league 1 level and can't be the answer long term if we plan on staying in league 1 long term.

Sam Finley is the most talented midfielder in the squadand IMO should be the first name on the team sheet.

Finley the man who constantly passes with is head glued at the ball and not were he is passing to gave the ball away countless times against Crewe.

Morecambe_Red 11-11-2019 07:54

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Edit , my post has appeared now !

cashman 11-11-2019 08:00

Re: The Crewe match thread, or the 'Annoy Accy Mad' thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1233551)
I only heard what was going on via Radio Lancs on the way home from Blackpool. Haven't seen any highlights but if there was only a liner on one side of the pitch who was watching for the ball going over the lines on the other side of the pitch ?

no-one thats the point.


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