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andyd 28-08-2020 13:27

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
That's 25 in the squad now maybe Watson on his way out either permanently or loaned keeper and one more maybe to come.

Twenty Eight 28-08-2020 13:47

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1243945)
Youre still missing the point

You seem to be trying to claim that UEFA can have say in the British Governments work permit legislation once we leave the EU which quite honestly is totally ridiculous or are you trying to say that some stupid UEFA regulation trumps a soverign nations statute and laws ?

There clearly has to be a way that EUFA deal with it because i.m pretty certain that in the vast number of cases its almost impossible to get a work permit in Switzerland whether you come from the EU or elsewhere and if i.m not mistaken the Swiss are members of UEFA in fact isnt that where they are based.

I.d be pretty sure that in law UEFA couldnt expel a European Non EU country on the basis that they dont like a law that countrys government enacted i would think everything would go along as it does now until it reaches the work permit stage where when the player concerned was refused one that would be the end of the matter.The clubs would have gone thru the UEFA rigmarole but theres then nothing UEFA can do if a governments immigration law then kicks in and puts a stop to it.

Its a bit like the Racism thing in Eastern Europe they can have as many regulations about it as they like but if that countrys laws dont outlaw it theres absolutely nothing they can do to enforce it other than keep issuing tiny little fines.

And do you really think they would expel the country who provides a good proportion of their income because if they did they will find themselves in the same position as the EU have scratching their heads and wondering how they are going to make up the missing cash.

For me anything thats stops the likes of Chelsea bringing over here literally hundreds of African kids and sticking them in their academies to the detriment of British kids is nothing but a good idea. The whole point of Brexit is that we stop pandering to foreigners and put British people first and that includes aspiring young British footballers.

Personally i wouldnt allow in any foreign player that doesnt have a minimum of 10 full caps.

Like I say mate I'm not in it for an argument. You have an opinion so do I.
Let's leave it at that.

VALAIRIAN 28-08-2020 16:52

Will not get many minutes.......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1242855)
So, 12th September - at the moment - sees the start of Stanley's 15th season in the Football League :)

As with every season, players go and players come.

These are the men charged with keeping us on the edge of our seats and in League 1 :)

Toby Savin.

Mark Hughes, Joe Maguire, Harvey Rodgers, Ross Sykes, Callum Johnson, Reagan Ogle, Cameron Burgess.

Zehn Mohammed, Lamine Sherif, Joe Pritchard, Sam Finley, Seamus Conneely, Sean McConville, Ben Barclay, Harry Perritt.

Colby Bishop, Dion Charles. Niall Watson????
Please tell me if I have missed anybody :)

17 - possibly 18 - players on the books at the moment and whilst we have a team - nothing against young Savin - we need a keeper minimum.

So, what do we need??
Who plays?
Coley has stated "The Reds had the biggest squad they have ever had last season and Coleman says next season will be different.

“We will be working with a much smaller squad,” said the Stanley boss.
" Does anybody think so??
Coley has also stated he is looking at 2, or 3 more signings (GK/CM/CF) ???

Let the discussions begin :)

:) :) :)

So, another centre midfielder 22 - 23 now, but still need a keeper - I feel...

:) :) :)

monkey hanger 29-08-2020 07:53

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1243945)
Youre still missing the point

You seem to be trying to claim that UEFA can have say in the British Governments work permit legislation once we leave the EU which quite honestly is totally ridiculous or are you trying to say that some stupid UEFA regulation trumps a soverign nations statute and laws ?

There clearly has to be a way that EUFA deal with it because i.m pretty certain that in the vast number of cases its almost impossible to get a work permit in Switzerland whether you come from the EU or elsewhere and if i.m not mistaken the Swiss are members of UEFA in fact isnt that where they are based.

I.d be pretty sure that in law UEFA couldnt expel a European Non EU country on the basis that they dont like a law that countrys government enacted i would think everything would go along as it does now until it reaches the work permit stage where when the player concerned was refused one that would be the end of the matter.The clubs would have gone thru the UEFA rigmarole but theres then nothing UEFA can do if a governments immigration law then kicks in and puts a stop to it.

Its a bit like the Racism thing in Eastern Europe they can have as many regulations about it as they like but if that countrys laws dont outlaw it theres absolutely nothing they can do to enforce it other than keep issuing tiny little fines.

And do you really think they would expel the country who provides a good proportion of their income because if they did they will find themselves in the same position as the EU have scratching their heads and wondering how they are going to make up the missing cash.

For me anything thats stops the likes of Chelsea bringing over here literally hundreds of African kids and sticking them in their academies to the detriment of British kids is nothing but a good idea. The whole point of Brexit is that we stop pandering to foreigners and put British people first and that includes aspiring young British footballers.

Personally i wouldnt allow in any foreign player that doesnt have a minimum of 10 full caps.

never thought we,d agree on anything, but i am with you on this.

andyd 01-09-2020 08:05

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Nathan Baxter Chelsea keeper latest name to be linked with a loan move to Stanley Coleman reputed to be an admirer, interesting at 21 with various loan moves has over 170 games under his belt highly rated at Chelsea.

MikeA 01-09-2020 11:25

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Squad numbers:
https://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/...squad-numbers/

Oops! Two 22s!

AccyMad 01-09-2020 11:44

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1244044)

Maybe they're sharing it - cutbacks & all that :)

andyd 01-09-2020 12:42

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1244044)

And no Mo Sangare.

NORTHERNSOUL 01-09-2020 13:58

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1243951)
Like I say mate I'm not in it for an argument. You have an opinion so do I.
Let's leave it at that.

Not wanting to re start an argument mate but have you seen the info on the "Homegrown" rule thats coming in ?

Suposedly it starts at 8 this year and increases to 10 next season and 12 the year after to qualfy to be homegrown basically you have to be eligible to hold a British Passport or have lived in the United Kingdom for more than 3 years.

The PL arent to happy and are soliciting support from the FL by threatening the next tranche of assistance thats due to be announced imminently.

Cant see your mates at UEFA being too happy about it either.

andyd 01-09-2020 15:02

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1244048)
Not wanting to re start an argument mate but have you seen the info on the "Homegrown" rule thats coming in ?

Suposedly it starts at 8 this year and increases to 10 next season and 12 the year after to qualfy to be homegrown basically you have to be eligible to hold a British Passport or have lived in the United Kingdom for more than 3 years.

The PL arent to happy and are soliciting support from the FL by threatening the next tranche of assistance thats due to be announced imminently.

Cant see your mates at UEFA being too happy about it either.

Par for the course
ego,s in the premiership won't want bruising.

andyd 01-09-2020 18:02

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Isherwood, Bolton and Martin promoted to senior squad no Watson presume he,s going out on loan or gone permanently, numbers now 21+4 loanees 25 presumably keeper coming in possibility of loan there as well window open until October so plenty of time if there,s going to be any more to get right ones. A bit young looking upfront but Cassidy could be a find hope he hits the ground running. Few niggling injuries to contend with and of course no hot head Finley for 10 games could prove costly for him looking forward now to Friday evening and our line up and probable new system.

Twenty Eight 02-09-2020 10:07

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1244048)
Not wanting to re start an argument mate but have you seen the info on the "Homegrown" rule thats coming in ?

Suposedly it starts at 8 this year and increases to 10 next season and 12 the year after to qualfy to be homegrown basically you have to be eligible to hold a British Passport or have lived in the United Kingdom for more than 3 years.

The PL arent to happy and are soliciting support from the FL by threatening the next tranche of assistance thats due to be announced imminently.

Cant see your mates at UEFA being too happy about it either.

1/ They aren't my mates.

2/ This has nothing to do with Bosman.

This is a residency issue nothing to do with freedom of movement and employment law.

andyd 02-09-2020 11:09

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1244058)
1/ They aren't my mates.

2/ This has nothing to do with Bosman.

This is a residency issue nothing to do with freedom of movement and employment law.

Are we really bothered I ain't I,m sure the club knows the rules roll on Oxford at home, then we can see who will be fighting for their places in the starting 11 midfield will be interesting this season.

VALAIRIAN 02-09-2020 11:10

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1244059)
Are we really bothered I ain't I,m sure the club knows the rules roll on Oxford at home, then we can see who will be fighting for their places in the starting 11 midfield will be interesting this season.

If we have a midield 4, then there are 2 place maximum up for grabs.....

:) :) :)

NORTHERNSOUL 02-09-2020 12:22

Re: 2020/21 Squad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1244058)
1/ They aren't my mates.

2/ This has nothing to do with Bosman.

This is a residency issue nothing to do with freedom of movement and employment law.

And how do you work out that either of those points are relevent.

Football in this country was told to reduce the number of foreigners on work permits it employs either voluntarily or the govmt would do it with legislation.

This is the FA.s response, the FL are quite happy with it. The PL not so and are putting pressure on the FL to support them in fighting it by threatening to withold the next tranche of support money.

Personally i hope they fight it and force the govt to legislate and they go hard and make it no foreign player with less than 10 caps allowed in.

Accept it man we.re taking our country back wether You UEFA or FIFA like it or not. And the sooner the better.


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