Re: Rotherham away thread.
 

I would suggest the fan had an influence on the missed penalty. Pell's efforts aren't usually as shoddy as Saturday's.

That's sufficient to constitute manipulation.

Whether you consider that manipulation to be a material factor in the missing of the penalty is a different question.

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Leaving Saturday aside we have been guilty of missing sitters all season hence we are were we are in the table against Morecambe we should and could have been 3 up before we gifted them 2 goals and 2 points you can moan about officials and luck until the cows come home the players picked that cross the white line on match days are responsible for the majority of results outcomes.

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That’s why I think making Rotherham play behind closed doors for, say, four games, is a better option.

Weak court sentence for the young moron will be worn as a badge of pride.
Banning order for one fan - so what, he won’t be the only idiot?
Paying a meagre fine, but keeping the points, won’t make Rotherham take on more stewards (not that stewards can do much other than react).

Closed stadium games will, in effect, be a fine on the club AND will make it absolutely clear to fans that these actions will impact everyone.
Who knows, more fans may then not glorify these morons and (as Stanley ultras have, almost, done with the flare-maniacs) exert more peer pressure to stop it being repeated.

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He shouldn't have taken it - end of.

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that i agree with pell tried to chase the piece of crap, luckily his teamates stopped him or he would be in the crap.

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I bet Seamus would have sorted it out had he been on the pitch.

Seriously tho, good to see him back.

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clubs i think would patrol better if points were to be deducted i think.

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Behind closed doors hits the guilty club in the pocket and ****es off real supporters who may then help curb the idiots.

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the young tend not to shop people i think.

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My exact comment to him straight after the game.
I remember well in the promotion season at Wycombe.
We were cruising and Coley made several subs. All the designated penalty takers had been subbed.
On comes Bambi Zanzala who gets brought down. His debut. Everybody arguing about who should take it.
In steps Seamus gives the ball to Bambi who then slots it away.
Clicker was not amused hahaha !

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Good days.

I patted his sweaty shoulder when he was mobbed just after.

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Given there are two ‘apologies’ on Rotherham’s web site for the recent behaviour of its so-called supporters, how can the authorities not take some serious action?

https://www.themillers.co.uk/news/20...ngton-stanley/

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Bullshine the country's gone down hill since they let women in TAP ROOM'S

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 

In the cold light of day ( well of 'evening' anyway !)

1. We were one down thanks to Dan's fabulous volley.
2. Irrespective of all that went on at 88 minutes and everyone's analysis of the offence that took place and Harry Pell's subsequent failure to convert the penalty kick which would have made everyone a great deal happier .. it did happen and repercussions however useless they will prove to be will be taken by the EFL and the local magistrates.
3. That JC was rightly incensed by all this.
4. That our discussion, although interesting and having 'getting it off one's Chest' moments
could continue ad infinitum.

Then remembering that tomorrow evening 's game is a BIG one..let's hope that any ill-effects emanating from Saturday 's debacle will have been expunged by JC and JB and
our team will match and hopefully overcome an on -form Oxford United .

ON STANLEY !.. ON TO GREATER THINGS !!..

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I'm amazed at the "inside" knowledge you have Sir.

The only people to speak to the police on duty were the Rotherham safety staff and myself.

Harry quite sensibly kept his head down and was sat on the coach.

We are waiting for the CCTV footage to be sent over from Rotherham.

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[QUOTE=Div3North;1263613]

The prat who ran into Harry needs to be prosecuted for encroaching on the playing area and for a common assault. That would result in a Football Banning Order, which might be a deterrent to others. With the current guidances though I suspect he’ll get a caution instead …

Years ago offenders at football grounds used to have to report to their nearest police station on match days for a certain length of time. That stopped em from going to another ground. Pointless banning a bloke from rotherham going to their ground when there is a short bus ride to barnsley, doncaster and the sheffield clubs available. Problem now would be finding a cop shop thats still open for em to attend.

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We have been talking about individuals and bad crowd behaviour that is getting worse. I agree with that but also remember behaviour on the pitch by players and the dug outs have also gone down. Players diving, trying to get fellow pro footballers sent off plus goal celebrations infront of supporters of the other team. Then there is the effing on the benches that coley himseke a right lf has been involved in. No one could forget the antics of evans and his mate. All wrongs never make one right but clubs have the responsibility to get their employees in order before they start on fans. fans even with a bellyfull of ail in them are not wound up for the sake of it. Its incidents on the pitch that kick it off.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1263666]Football Banning Orders apply to any designated match, not just the ground where the incident was. If you get an FBO at Rotherham, you can’t go to Barnsley, Sheffield, Donnie or anywhere else. I’d need to look up reporting rules these days, but FBOs do have consequences and teeth

:theband::theband::theband:

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What do you expect them to do ?
Say nothing or deny it ?
Standard protocol mate.
What will be will be.
Yesterday's chip paper now for us.

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 

[QUOTE=Div3North;1263670][QUOTE=monkey hanger;1263666]

Football Banning Orders apply to any designated match, not just the ground where the incident was. If you get an FBO at Rotherham, you can’t go to Barnsley, Sheffield, Donnie or anywhere else. I’d need to look up reporting rules these days, but FBOs do have consequences and teeth

thats fine but who would really know a random rotherham so called fan popped up at the keepmoat for a game if they really wanted to do that much. join a line of others buying a ticket with cash when its busy and those selling them will want the transaction to go as quickly as possible and just give em a ticket anyway.

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I’m not expecting the club do anything, mate.
I had naively expected the football ‘powers’ (you, know the ones that fined clubs for players getting flu) to do something.

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And will also **** off away supporters.

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Not if it genuinely makes grounds safer to visit or do we go back to locking away fans in for an age after the game or worse.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1263675][QUOTE=Div3North;1263670]All Police Forces have Designated Football Officers /“Spotters”, and there’s a significant exchange of info. They know their own Bad Boys. Preston officers will go to Blackpool when PNE play there etc, and CCTV is useful. It’s not 100% of course, but more successful than you might think

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[QUOTE=Div3North;1263687][QUOTE=monkey hanger;1263675]That's great but the police can only make arrests if anything happens, a lot of times I think trouble can be spotted before it happens against Fleetwood at our place before kick off a group of about 50 Fleetwood fans entered the Eric Whalley stand and made a run of sorts towards the Accrington fans sat in the same stand , stewards stopped them but I said to those sat near me I would have moved them into the coppice and thrown the ringleader,s out , but they were allowed to stop were they were and we all know what happened after.

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... and then you get that moron on Quest TV at the weekend calling for an end to fan segregation ........... because it works in the NFL.
Jesus Mary and the wee donkey .......

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i would use a stronger word than moron.

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its morons that stop the idea of not having segregated grounds. its the morons that caused this to happen in the first place and continuing with this problem that costs clubs thousands every season. would like to bet these also do not watch the game for the full 90 minutes but roll up for other things in the first place. problem is its seem to have got worse than it was pre virus also.

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that might not be too bad an idea if it was a certain type of away supporter that it happened too. away fans are not a full reflection of any clubs total fanbase as the percentage of idiots are much higher away from home. just think of mansfield town for starters and stockport if we ever have to play either again.