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andyd 05-02-2022 10:19

Rotherham away thread.
 
Difficult game has they all are but mentally we have beaten them twice already this season so here's hoping for the hat trick difficult to predict lineup today go for Colby being fit and go 3-5-2 :-
Savin.
Sykes. Nottingham. Bagheulou.
Clark. McConville. Pell. Butcher. Hamilton.
Bishop. Adedoyin.
Subs :- Isherwood. Amankwah. Rodgers. Conneely.
Morgan. Lewis. Mansell.

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 13:03

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Not sure what to make of the starting XI??


:)

Watchdog 05-02-2022 13:09

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c'mon the mighty Accrington Stanley

cashman 05-02-2022 13:10

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think we will miss colby.

andyd 05-02-2022 13:11

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1263503)
Not sure what to make of the starting XI??


:)

Me neither could be any formation looking at the actual lineup I,ll go 4-3-3:-
Savin.
Clark. Sykes. Nottingham. Amankwah.
Hamilton. Conneely. Butcher.
McConville. Mansell. Bagheulou.

Subs:-
Isherwood. Rodgers O, Sullivan. Pell. Liegh Longelo. Adedoyin

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 13:27

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263506)
think we will miss colby.

Not wrong Cashy :)

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 13:28

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1263507)
Me neither could be any formation looking at the actual lineup I,ll go 4-3-3:-
Savin.
Clark. Sykes. Nottingham. Amankwah.
Hamilton. Conneely. Butcher.
McConville. Mansell. Bagheulou.

Subs:-
Isherwood. Rodgers O, Sullivan. Pell. Liegh Longelo. Adedoyin

B.B.C. calling it 4-5-1??

:)

andyd 05-02-2022 13:42

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1263509)
B.B.C. calling it 4-5-1??

:)

Anyone,s guess where Bagheulou start's then.

cashman 05-02-2022 13:45

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
The BBC are as much use as breasts on as fella.

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 13:52

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1263511)
anyone,s guess where bagheulou start's then.

Right wingback :)

andyd 05-02-2022 14:02

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1263513)
Right wingback :)

In a back 3 reverted to a 3-5-2 I think or its Mansell on his own with Sean in the hole.

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 14:04

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Me thinks we shall see a Hamilton rocket today.

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 14:33

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Listening to commentary....sounds like a battle very physical game. Both sides have tall players, like an old fashioned League 1 game......Saemus cleared Griggs follow up shot off the line....lots of Rotheram corners and free kicks...

MikeA 05-02-2022 14:49

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Why was Toby booked?

cashman 05-02-2022 14:53

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1263517)
Why was Toby booked?

i wondered that?

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 14:53

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
0-0 HT. Yellow cards for Savin (time wasting) and Coley.......reaction to card for Savin. Crowd very unhappy......with the ref.....and the scoreline....... Good half for Stanley against the
He League leaders. Mansell sounds like he's done OK, with little service and little game time .......hope we see the new lad up-front at some point second half..

cashman 05-02-2022 14:55

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0-0 half time will settle for that at full time, but hope we sneek it.

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 14:58

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1263517)
Why was Toby booked?

..for being named after a Tram engine..

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:15

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Adedoyen on for Mansell 35 to go..

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:16

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Barlaser 1-0

andyd 05-02-2022 15:17

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Game over? Barlazer cracker.

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 15:17

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..C'MON STANLEY...no use watering the tomatoes, its raining now.

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 15:18

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&%$%^#$&^&%^p(*^%^%#@&**^*(*^$^#%

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1263524)
Game over? Barlazer cracker.

No not yet.......

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 15:20

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How dare he disrespect his old club..disgusting thing to do.

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:21

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Leigh warming up for Stanley

andyd 05-02-2022 15:21

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Liegh for Conneely.

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:22

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Leigh on

andyd 05-02-2022 15:29

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Pell on for Amankwah.

cashman 05-02-2022 15:31

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
1-0 rotherham:(

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:40

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Stanlet's first corner......wasted...

andyd 05-02-2022 15:43

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Chance didn't take it, then corner goes straight out.

andyd 05-02-2022 15:45

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Penalty chance we have to take

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:46

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Pen stanley

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 15:48

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Red Card-Naughty boy-has this opened the door a bit?

andyd 05-02-2022 15:48

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Pell supporter kicks ball away have to be charged for that, Pell saved game over.

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 15:48

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****in egg !! &^$%&^&$%(&%*^&%#$((*(*&%^#&&^*(*%*)&^

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 15:49

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Pell takes and after 3 minutes and 2 pitch invasions........saved by keeper. Cheating Rotherham fans win the day....

andyd 05-02-2022 15:50

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Has to be reprocution,s for supporters on the pitch has put Pell under pressure but it won't bring back the point.

MikeA 05-02-2022 15:51

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
8 minutes extra time!

andyd 05-02-2022 15:52

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Coleman's interview after a yellow card for himself and pitch invasion,s will be interesting to say the least.

andyd 05-02-2022 15:57

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Hit the post follow up saved just not our day no luck Rotherham have had it you do when your at the top.

Kiwi John 05-02-2022 15:59

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Grumpy Sunday it shall be. :(

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 16:08

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Hit the post late on......."somebody up there doesn't like us".........Morsey at Ipswich and now hand ball on the line and the penalty pitch invasion debacle........the points gone and retrospective action doesn't address the injustice..............think I'm falling out of love with football.......

andyd 05-02-2022 16:20

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Trouble creeping back in at football pitch invasion at our game Morecambe v Bolton stopped for 10 minutes due to racial abuse coming from the stands.

cashman 05-02-2022 16:25

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
BELIEVE THE SCUMBAG PUSHED PELL WHEN HE RAN ON? and the ref had to push the player off the field? if pell had snotted him he would have been in serious bother. i hope those scumbags get jailed.

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 16:26

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It has been going backwards for a while - Man. U. last night!! - in my opinion, lockdown and restrictions have contributed to the decline..............

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 16:28

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263549)
BELIEVE THE SCUMBAG PUSHED PELL WHEN HE RAN ON? and the ref had to push the player off the field? if pell had snotted him he would have been in serious bother. i hope those scumbags get jailed.

Agree Cashy - but as has been pointed out earlier - will not get the potential point back............... :(

andyd 05-02-2022 16:31

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Where did I put them old knucledusters.

Crown Grounder 05-02-2022 17:26

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1263545)
Hit the post follow up saved just not our day no luck Rotherham have had it you do when your at the top.

Not our day.....AGAIN!!! ............. bigger clubs with more fans influencing the game AND the referee again. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. It's always been that way. Makes it all the more Fantastic that we are playing in the League that we are.........

Lord Stiffupperlip 05-02-2022 18:03

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
It took 57 minutes to prove why Rotherham sit top of L1.
Until then, Stanley's game plan to nullify the Millers had worked perfectly.
It took a goal any Premier striker would have been proud of to break the deadlock.
But ability & skill alone will not assure you success - you also need Lady-Luck.
And boy, was Lady-Luck wearing red today!
Even conceding a penalty with 1 minute left, being reduced to 10 men or being under the cosh for 8 minutes of stoppage time, wasn't going to alter the result.
The crowd got the ref to book Savin for time-wasting but after their goal, their keeper did exactly the same in spades.
Yes, the pitch invasion prior to our penalty was deplorable but Pell's game-saving spot-kick, despite the provocation, was even more so.
Sorry Harry, I've been singing your praises all season but today, you blew it!
I predicted an optimistic 1-1 draw today, so thanks Harry, you even blew my 5 point maxi!
Grrrrrrr! :mad:

ferret man 05-02-2022 19:48

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Just watched Coley post match interview he is really fished off.

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 20:08

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A long, long, long time since I have seen Coley that low.................. :(

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2022 20:58

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More than likely see Sean banned for clouting the lad who attacked Pell!!!!!

monkey hanger 06-02-2022 09:27

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
might have been better to change the penalty taker to someone who was not involved in the incident. suppose its fine being wise after the event but something that should be looked at if something similar happens in the future.

monkey hanger 06-02-2022 09:31

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[QUOTE=Lord Stiffupperlip;
Sorry Harry, I've been singing your praises all season but today, you blew it!
I predicted an optimistic 1-1 draw today, so thanks Harry, you even blew my 5 point maxi!
Grrrrrrr! :mad:[/QUOTE]

did not go yesterday and have missed a few this season as i have joined someone else on here with a declining love of football. got to say that pell has for me gone from the first name on the team sheet to a player you could argue whether he is in the starting line up or the bench.

andyd 06-02-2022 09:34

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1263558)
might have been better to change the penalty taker to someone who was not involved in the incident. suppose its fine being wise after the event but something that should be looked at if something similar happens in the future.

Harry Pell tweeted himself that it was a poor penalty and apologized for costing us the point.

VALAIRIAN 06-02-2022 09:36

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1263558)
might have been better to change the penalty taker to someone who was not involved in the incident. suppose its fine being wise after the event but something that should be looked at if something similar happens in the future.

Coley said the same himself about Harry.

As for it happening again.......doubt very much it ever will!?!?


:) :) :)

VALAIRIAN 06-02-2022 10:18

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Did not go to the game, could somebody please throw some light onto Coley's comments about their goal and our man being through one-on-one????


:) :)

Mr T 06-02-2022 11:14

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Joe;

Their goal came from the 2nd phase of play after a very soft free kick to Rotherham.

His 2nd reference is to when Korede A turned the big centre half on the half way line and was racing away towards goal. The referee then gave Rotherham a free kick for a foul on the centre half. Really looked a poor decision; especially when Korede had loads of pace and looked really lively.

cashman 06-02-2022 11:22

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joe i think the penny has finally dropped with him or its the first time he has nearly admitted it, the people running things have it in for STANLEY, thats something i have thought for years dunno why but they have. he cannot say that but i can.

Watchdog 06-02-2022 11:29

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Harry's expressed his disappointment and apologized at not scoring on his twitter account so that's good, and one thing about Harry is he always gives us 110% so Harry will do for me...onwards and upwards, c'mon the mighty Reds

monkey hanger 06-02-2022 11:33

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263574)
joe i think the penny has finally dropped with him or its the first time he has nearly admitted it, the people running things have it in for STANLEY, thats something i have thought for years dunno why but they have. he cannot say that but i can.

can understand that in the past match officials not enjoying their day out at stanley when the pitch used to be really bad and the slope on it. even their changing rooms are still under par. once they improve we,ll see if their performances do likewise. always know myself of certain teams i dreaded doing just because of their pitch and facilities and it did spill over to my performance on the pitch. its these places where i always seemed to have my seasons nightmares no matter how i tried to put it out of my mind.

VALAIRIAN 06-02-2022 11:35

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1263573)
Joe;

Their goal came from the 2nd phase of play after a very soft free kick to Rotherham.

His 2nd reference is to when Korede A turned the big centre half on the half way line and was racing away towards goal. The referee then gave Rotherham a free kick for a foul on the centre half. Really looked a poor decision; especially when Korede had loads of pace and looked really lively.

Cheers Mark :)

VALAIRIAN 06-02-2022 11:36

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263574)
joe i think the penny has finally dropped with him or its the first time he has nearly admitted it, the people running things have it in for STANLEY, thats something i have thought for years dunno why but they have. he cannot say that but i can.

Not for the first time Cashy, you are not wrong ;)

:)

VALAIRIAN 06-02-2022 11:39

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1263576)
can understand that in the past match officials not enjoying their day out at stanley when the pitch used to be really bad and the slope on it. even their changing rooms are still under par. once they improve we,ll see if their performances do likewise. always know myself of certain teams i dreaded doing just because of their pitch and facilities and it did spill over to my performance on the pitch. its these places where i always seemed to have my seasons nightmares no matter how i tried to put it out of my mind.

Not right M.H. ;)

There is a chap on here who can tell you how much ALL officials enjoy coming to Stanley :)

:)

andyd 06-02-2022 15:31

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Can understand Coleman's frustrations with yesterday but to say the game should have been abandoned over the incident with the kid( idiot) that ran on was a bit of a over reaction we could and should have won it penalty scored and Clark scoring instead of the post even Paul Warne after apologizing for what happened said the last eight minutes felt like years could easily have lost and were hanging on at the end.

Exile on Spencer St 06-02-2022 15:42

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
The way things are developing at grounds with fans increasingly disrupting games, starting with keeping hold of the ball, invading the pitch, spitting at players (were they Bolton’s at Stanley), throwing bottles (Bolton again at Morecambe), and now ‘progressing’ to trying to assault players (another example just now at Forest v Leicester), there will be more and more of it unless the football authorities take some firm action.
Rotherham fans need to be made an example of before we return to the lunacy of the 70s.
Rather than some meaningless fine, that does nothing to deter the real culprits, I think Rotherham should be made to play at home for a significant period behind closed doors.
The morons have to be stopped now.

cashman 06-02-2022 15:43

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
I think coleman was correct when a player has been attacked on the field it should be abandoned in my view, if the team offended against was awarded the match the scum would soon stop imho

andyd 06-02-2022 15:45

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1263585)
The way things are developing at grounds with fans increasingly disrupting games, starting with keeping hold of the ball, invading the pitch, spitting at players (were they Bolton’s at Stanley), throwing bottles (Bolton again at Morecambe), and now ‘progressing’ to trying to assault players (another example just now at Forest v Leicester), there will be more and more of it unless the football authorities take some firm action.
Rotherham fans need to be made an example of before we return to the lunacy of the 70s.
Rather than some meaningless fine, that does nothing to deter the real culprits, I think Rotherham should be made to play at home for a significant period behind closed doors.
The morons have to be stopped now.

Seen a video off so called Liecester fans throwing chairs into a bar in Nottingham before the game agree stop it in its tracks before it becomes a gravy train for cocaine and alcohol fuelled youngsters to see it has the new thing to attach thereselves too.

andyd 06-02-2022 15:50

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263586)
I think coleman was correct when a player has been attacked on the field it should be abandoned in my view,

Maybe but after if it's still the rules a game abandoned after 75 minutes the score stands before 75 it's replaid this was in about the 88 th minute so probably won't have made much difference, the club should if it can't control it's supporters should face a fine or threatened with behind closed doors.

Lord Stiffupperlip 06-02-2022 16:13

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Would Coley still have expected the game be abandoned if we had scored the penalty????

cashman 06-02-2022 16:22

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1263589)
Would Coley still have expected the game be abandoned if we had scored the penalty????

that makes no difference to me if it was abandoned and we were awarded the result the scum would have a good chance of stopping there stupidity surely?

Exile on Spencer St 06-02-2022 16:24

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Once again, rugby union reveals just how differently things can be handled if it’s left to the grown-ups.
At Murrayfield an England player deliberately commits foul play yards from the try line by knocking the ball forward to prevent it being caught by a Scottish player. Even though there was no guarantee the Scottish player would have (a) caught the ball cleanly, and (b) successfully grounded it, the ref(s) sent off the England player, and awarded Scotland 7 points. Tough, but those are the rules.

In football, late in the game someone on the goal line deliberately ‘handles’ the ball to prevent it going in the net, gets sent off, but provides his goalkeeper with the opportunity to save the penalty.
So what’s the incentive for any defender not to do the same again if it’s, say, after the 80th minute? Worst case, the opposition may get the goal but increasingly it seems penalties can be saved or missed so the cheats can win again.
As for fining Rotherham for the actions of a moron, I’m sure the club would be more happy to pay a few thousand rather than ‘lose’ two points.

VALAIRIAN 06-02-2022 16:34

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Some good points Exile and I was thinking yesterday about the unfairness of the handball.

I know it would be more rules and potential mistakes but, the handball yesterday, should result in a goal to the attacking side and a red card to the defending side!

Forget the penalty, as that is a lottery.

At least there would be an advantage for the attacking team.

Never happen I know, but it would be fairer :)

:) :) :)

VALAIRIAN 06-02-2022 16:35

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
On the subject of 'fines', there is only one way to fine Clubs and it is points, not ££££ss

:)

Twenty Eight 06-02-2022 17:04

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263586)
I think coleman was correct when a player has been attacked on the field it should be abandoned in my view, if the team offended against was awarded the match the scum would soon stop imho

Nonsense mate. I was there. Totally unacceptable but to expect a game to be abandoned isn't the right message.
We still had the penalty.
Pell should have walked away and let McConville slot it.
Awarded the match ???
On what basis ?
We weren't even level.
Anyway time for a controversial view point.
We keep whinging on about they all hate us ?
Is it any wonder ??
From minute 5 for the whole of the first half Jimmy John D and Coley took it in turns to berate the fourth official.
It got to a point where it nearly caused a riot with the Rotherham fans.
Followed by waving at the opposition fans and giving them a round of applause.
Come on - we're better than that.
At the end I get it how emotions are running high ...... but Sean confronting away fans and calling them a bunch of f&&&king Shi....ses ?
No - sorry ..... walk away show some class.

cashman 06-02-2022 17:46

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Becauase i think the SCUM would be much less inclined to go on the pitch but if that dont bother you well that then speaks volumes for you.

ferret man 06-02-2022 19:00

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1263558)
might have been better to change the penalty taker to someone who was not involved in the incident. Suppose its fine being wise after the event but something that should be looked at if something similar happens in the future.

"when"

Twenty Eight 06-02-2022 19:11

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263595)
Becauase i think the SCUM would be much less inclined to go on the pitch but if that dont bother you well that then speaks volumes for you.

What's your thoughts on the issues we've had with fans racially abusing opponent's players mate and spitting at them ?

Should we have had the games abandoned and forfeited the points ?

This is a society issue time for action.

What's your views on incitement ?

Good debate this.

cashman 06-02-2022 19:17

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
the bloke ran on the pitch and hit pell.as well as kicking the ball away thats different to me. off the pitch what are stewards for? if they dont do anything then get some that will.

Twenty Eight 06-02-2022 19:37

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Sadly that's exactly the response I was expecting.
Unbelievable.
Let me say straight away I don't think the lad hit Harry. He ran into him on purpose no doubt about that.
The acts of a stupid little boy - because that's what he is.
But is this far worse than a fan of ours spitting at an opponent ?
Is this far worse than fan(s) of ours racially abusing opponents ?
What about our own players in the past abusing racially opponents on the pitch ?
The player got dealt with but should we have a game abandoned for that ?
FOOTBALL has got a problem. Not Rotherham, not Accrington.
By all means blame Rotherham's stewards.
What about our Stewards watching fans spit at opposing keepers for instance ?
Accy's fault ?
No.
Now I asked you about incitement.
You swerved that.
What's your answer.

Reamer 06-02-2022 19:53

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Agree with Valarian. The most effective way to deal with this is through points deduction.
In Rotherham's case, for example, if the drive for promotion is threatened, the club and its decent fans will soon root out the troublemakers.

Twenty Eight 06-02-2022 20:06

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Not saying I disagree with you Reamer but the point I'm trying to get to as comparability of offences.
Should we face points deduction if a dick head decides to spit at a player ?
Is that worse / better than the dick head running on the pitch at Rotherham ?
Is it any worse /better than events at Morecambe yesterday ?
I'm trying to not be controversial but again I think it's valid.
Should a club be responsible if its Management incite opponents / officials ?

Inspector Morse 06-02-2022 21:38

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Points deduction may be needed to nip this whole thing in the bud before some coked up dick runs onto the pitch with a blade.

Reamer 06-02-2022 21:46

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
All clubs have a responsibility to police their own fans. At Accy we have a chairman that puts his trust in the fans and expects them to mix before and after games
and as far as i know it works well. We did have a problem with flares at one point but it was made clear by the club that it was out of order and again as far as I know the ultras sorted it.
Spitting is disgusting and offenders should be kicked out and banned but I still believe that trusting the fans and a strong line from the club's hierarchy is the way to go. That applies to club staff as well. Points deductions would hit home more than fines.

andyd 07-02-2022 07:20

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Points deduction,s could set a problematic precident whereas if your team's losing idiots throw a flare at the keeper, or objects or worse and invade the pitch to try and get the result altered, this growing trouble at ground,s is has I said before in its infancy society problem nip it in the bud with if caught and charged hefty fines and jail sentences if necessary, otherwise it will get out of control regardless of stewarding or police numbers has we saw in the 70,s into the 80,s. Lifetime bans are great but does it deter idiots who aren't there to watch the game anyway not easy to curb society trends among teenagers has history proves pity they attach themselves to football.

Inspector Morse 07-02-2022 08:04

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Could always give the deducted points to the other team on the basis that they have been frustrated in their attempts to fulfill the fixture.

cashman 07-02-2022 08:55

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
is it not cos many kids dont give a stuff? theres no real detterant to them these days, things have changed, for the worse i think, you have only to look at the courts and sentences,

Div3North 07-02-2022 09:32

Re: Rotherham away thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263610)
is it not cos many kids dont give a stuff? theres no real detterant to them these days, things have changed, for the worse i think, you have only to look at the courts and sentences,

Many kids don’t (apparently) care about anything, but there are many views about why they are so disengaged and what to do about it

As for the Courts, you need to understand that with all the sentencing guidances and protocols - which Judges must follow unless there are exceptional circumstances - a Judge can’t necessarily impose the sense that he (or we) would want. Hang ‘em and flog ‘em is long gone. And I know first hand of what I speak ….

The prat who ran into Harry needs to be prosecuted for encroaching on the playing area and for a common assault. That would result in a Football Banning Order, which might be a deterrent to others. With the current guidances though I suspect he’ll get a caution instead …

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cashman 07-02-2022 09:42

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Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1263613)
Many kids don’t (apparently) care about anything, but there are many views about why they are so disengaged and what to do about it

As for the Courts, you need to understand that with all the sentencing guidances and protocols - which Judges must follow unless there are exceptional circumstances - a Judge can’t necessarily impose the sense that he (or we) would want. Hang ‘em and flog ‘em is long gone. And I know first hand of what I speak ….

The prat who ran into Harry needs to be prosecuted for encroaching on the playing area and for a common assault. That would result in a Football Banning Order, which might be a deterrent to others. With the current guidances though I suspect he’ll get a caution instead …

:theband::theband::theband:

as far as im concerned he should be jailed simple as. but theres no chance of that the system is much too weak.which you have just shown with your view of what he will get,

cashman 07-02-2022 09:47

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by the way if the guidance aint strong enough then it should be made so, but obvious to me dickheads set it.

Twenty Eight 07-02-2022 09:54

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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1263606)
Points deduction,s could set a problematic precident whereas if your team's losing idiots throw a flare at the keeper, or objects or worse and invade the pitch to try and get the result altered, this growing trouble at ground,s is has I said before in its infancy society problem nip it in the bud with if caught and charged hefty fines and jail sentences if necessary, otherwise it will get out of control regardless of stewarding or police numbers has we saw in the 70,s into the 80,s. Lifetime bans are great but does it deter idiots who aren't there to watch the game anyway not easy to curb society trends among teenagers has history proves pity they attach themselves to football.

Correct Andy. As soon as idiots are given a chance to manipulate an outcome the game's dead.

Inspector Morse 07-02-2022 09:56

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Country's gone down hill since women were given the vote.
Should send him to Van Diemen's land.

Twenty Eight 07-02-2022 09:56

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Good debate though. Wish a few more had joined in. Nice to see we can have differing views without falling out hahaha !

Inspector Morse 07-02-2022 10:16

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'As soon as idiots are given a chance to manipulate an outcome the game's dead.'
Like they did on Saturday?

Div3North 07-02-2022 10:43

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1263614)
as far as im concerned he should be jailed simple as. but theres no chance of that the system is much too weak.which you have just shown with your view of what he will get,

Can’t be jailed for “invading the pitch” - only carries a fine

Common assault does carry a possible prison term but having seen the video it isn’t near to the custody threshold

Twenty Eight 07-02-2022 10:46

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Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1263620)
'As soon as idiots are given a chance to manipulate an outcome the game's dead.'
Like they did on Saturday?

Really ?
So the fan made Harry miss, the fan made Mitch hit the post when really it was a sitter ?
Come on. We got the penalty the lad was sent off we got 8 minutes added.
Bad decision by those on the pitch.
Why McConville didn't step up and slot it way I do not know. Harry cannot have been focused upon the job in hand.

Twenty Eight 07-02-2022 10:47

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Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1263621)
Can’t be jailed for “invading the pitch” - only carries a fine

Common assault does carry a possible prison term but having seen the video it isn’t near to the custody threshold

Bang on mate. Plus Harry told the cops to do one straight after so he's not pressing charges.

Div3North 07-02-2022 11:01

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1263623)
Bang on mate. Plus Harry told the cops to do one straight after so he's not pressing charges.

The Police could still apply for a Football Banning Order on complaint to a Court, but might just settle for the Club’s own stadium ban

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