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andyd 02-05-2022 08:07

Retained list 2022.
 
It,s that time of year again for manager,s to make decisions on players, thought,s on who might go from Stanley, Sama will almost certainly be released personally think Mansell and Perritt could be on the list and Coley has a big decision to make on skipper Seamus who I think is out of contract please correct if I,m wrong but at 34 years young is it time up for a great servant to the club.

VALAIRIAN 02-05-2022 08:57

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
I thought Seamus is still under contract?

:)

choirboy 02-05-2022 09:37

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
If we are to have a realistic discussion about who we think we should keep or release etc, then we need a list of first team and U23 and possibly some of our U18 players showing their current contract status. This should give us a starting base figure of players under contract for the start of next season. Then we can observe where in the squad we are short of players. Of course if we lose one or two to transfers away from the club we can make up for that too in putting forward our ideas.
Really no point in throwing names around until we get a clear list in these sections of players that we can start with;
Goalkeepers ?
Defenders?
Midfielders?
Forwards?
:rolleyes:

andyd 02-05-2022 09:41

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1266559)
If we are to have a realistic discussion about who we think we should keep or release etc, then we need a list of first team and U23 and possibly some of our U18 players showing their current contract status. This should give us a starting base figure of players under contract for the start of next season. Then we can observe where in the squad we are short of players. Of course if we lose one or two to transfers away from the club we can make up for that too in putting forward our ideas.
Really no point in throwing names around until we get a clear list in these sections of players that we can start with;
Goalkeepers ?
Defenders?
Midfielders?
Forwards?
:rolleyes:

Good point choirboy but getting the information isn't easy unless Mr.T. could spare a bit of time and share the required information.

VALAIRIAN 02-05-2022 09:46

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1266555)
It,s that time of year again for manager,s to make decisions on players, thought,s on who might go from Stanley, Sama will almost certainly be released personally think Mansell and Perritt could be on the list and Coley has a big decision to make on skipper Seamus who I think is out of contract please correct if I,m wrong but at 34 years young is it time up for a great servant to the club.

From our website Andy :)

The Irishman's extension will keep him at the Wham Stadium until the summer of 2023.

choirboy 02-05-2022 10:09

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;

Goalkeepers ?

Defenders?

Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year)
Forwards?

andyd 02-05-2022 10:59

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1266561)
From our website Andy :)

The Irishman's extension will keep him at the Wham Stadium until the summer of 2023.

Stand corrected thanks so choirboy is correct in saying we could do with an accurate list.

choirboy 02-05-2022 11:18

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1266563)
Stand corrected thanks so choirboy is correct in saying we could do with an accurate list.

If posters on here can present known accurate details about current players contract status and also accurate news about new signings I am happy to build the squad list as shown above…:)

choirboy 02-05-2022 11:28

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;
Just looked up on the Fishy site a news item from September 2020 about Toby Savin signing a contract until 2023

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?

Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension)
Forwards?

VALAIRIAN 02-05-2022 11:32

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Harry Pell signed a 3 years deal :)

Sean is under contract also :)

VALAIRIAN 02-05-2022 11:34

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Though, I would wait until Coley decides who is staying and then we can go from there :)

Unless, we are putting our thoughts and views forwards???


:)

choirboy 02-05-2022 11:37

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1266567)
Though, I would wait until Coley decides who is staying and then we can go from there :)

Unless, we are putting our thoughts and views forwards???


:)

Joe, at the moment we can add to the list players definitely on contracts beyond the end of this season. As with Harry and Sean.

choirboy 02-05-2022 11:40

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;
Just looked up on the Fishy site a news item from October 2020 about Michael Nottingham signing a contract until 2023

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension)
Forwards?

choirboy 02-05-2022 11:46

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;[/B]
Harry Pell signed in summer 2021 signing a contract until 2023

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Forwards?

andyd 02-05-2022 12:07

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Joe Hardy has a year left, Pritchard too, O, Sullivan signed a three-year deal, Butcher out of contract and youngsters Coyle and Woods only signed one year deals.

Haggis316 02-05-2022 15:09

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
David Morgan till Summer 2024.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...er%20of%202024.

accybeme 02-05-2022 18:49

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
regarding accrington stanley contracts ending, I found this list
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/accr...de/verein/3688

choirboy 02-05-2022 19:21

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;
Joe Hardy signed a two year contract in summer 2021 signing until 2023

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023

choirboy 02-05-2022 19:30

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1266573)
regarding accrington stanley contracts ending, I found this list
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/accr...de/verein/3688

Had a look at this accybeme. It looks like it is not up to date as it only shows some of our players and those shown with contracts all ending on June 30th 2022.

choirboy 02-05-2022 19:36

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;[/B

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)

choirboy 02-05-2022 19:52

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Ethan Hamilton (contract until 2023)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)

choirboy 02-05-2022 20:14

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Harvey Rodgers (contract until 2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Ethan Hamilton (contract until 2023)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)

choirboy 02-05-2022 20:23

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
So far I am trying to build a list of players who have got definite contracts and extensions beyond this summer.
Not adding any names who are out of contract this summer until we know if they are staying or not.
So there are still questions about a number of players….
eg. Colby Bishop, Ross Sykes, Matt Butcher, Tommy Leigh, Liam Coyle, Jack Nolan, Lewis Mansell, Korede Adedoyin, Stephen Sama, Jay Rich-Baghuelou, Archie Procter, Harry Perritt, Josh Woods and a good number of youngsters from the U23 and U18 squads.
So please point me towards any confirmed news about signings in the coming weeks so they can be added to the Actually Retained On Contracts list.

choirboy 02-05-2022 20:37

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1266566)
Harry Pell signed a 3 years deal :)

Sean is under contract also :)

Joe, I cannot find any reports showing Sean Mac having signed beyond this summer. I have been checking back mainly on the Fishy site for previous news items about players signing contracts and extensions. Can you point me to a report or news item if you are sure he has signed up again? We would all love him to stay with us of course as with a number of other players….Colby, Ross etc

choirboy 02-05-2022 20:41

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Rosaire Longelo….contract status?

But please still discuss the remaining players that you have opinions about wether they should stay or be released.

Chewbacca 02-05-2022 23:53

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1266579)
So far I am trying to build a list of players who have got definite contracts and extensions beyond this summer.
Not adding any names who are out of contract this summer until we know if they are staying or not.
So there are still questions about a number of players….
eg. Colby Bishop, Ross Sykes, Matt Butcher, Tommy Leigh, Liam Coyle, Jack Nolan, Lewis Mansell, Korede Adedoyin, Stephen Sama, Jay Rich-Baghuelou, Archie Procter, Harry Perritt, Josh Woods and a good number of youngsters from the U23 and U18 squads.
So please point me towards any confirmed news about signings in the coming weeks so they can be added to the Actually Retained On Contracts list.

Retained list is just players offered a contract at least as good as their last one, it doesn't mean they are staying. However if they don't sign it means they don't get severance pay and may be able to get a fee if young enough.

StanleyJosh 03-05-2022 05:48

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Majority of the players who are out of contract this season, the club have a 1 year extension option on them.
Butchers was taken up last year so is out of contract this summer.
Good news though that for most of first team, the ball is in the clubs court.
Can’t imagine any surprises on retained list - like people have mentioned - Sama, Mansell likely to be released. Kev Spinelli probably on basis of Woods & Hardy ahead of him plus Adekoya coming through as well. Maybe a couple more of younger lads released Luke Stowe, Pleavin (Moonan has shone in comparison) etc. Purely just my opinion/guesses.

Perritt under contract until at least 2023.

andyd 03-05-2022 07:12

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1266583)
Majority of the players who are out of contract this season, the club have a 1 year extension option on them.
Butchers was taken up last year so is out of contract this summer.
Good news though that for most of first team, the ball is in the clubs court.
Can’t imagine any surprises on retained list - like people have mentioned - Sama, Mansell likely to be released. Kev Spinelli probably on basis of Woods & Hardy ahead of him plus Adekoya coming through as well. Maybe a couple more of younger lads released Luke Stowe, Pleavin (Moonan has shone in comparison) etc. Purely just my opinion/guesses.

Perritt under contract until at least 2023.


Regarding Butcher Pompey rumoured to be interested if true could see him leave for them has he hails from that neck of the woods.

choirboy 03-05-2022 07:18

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;

Thanks to StanleyJosh for information about Harry Perritt. Found the relevant news item on the Fishy site from summer 2021 when Harry signed a two year contract.

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Harvey Rodgers (contract until 2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (1 year contract extension until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Ethan Hamilton (contract until 2023)
Harry Perritt (contract until 2023)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)

choirboy 03-05-2022 07:39

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
I hope that we can get some of our remaining players signed up, such as, Colby Bishop, Ross Sykes and Matt Butcher but as StanleyJosh and others have suggested there is likely to be competition from other clubs for their services. Also I would like to see some of our younger players with real potential offered contracts or extensions. Emerich Poilly, who I rate very highly, for example signed a two and a half year professional contract in January this year. So he is contracted until summer 2024. Other youngsters I rate highly are goalkeepers Isherwood and Hood, also Pickles, Wood, Trickett and Adekoya. Some of these youngsters have I think, been training with the first team squad this season.
If we do lose Butcher but we can keep Bishop, and Sykes and we sign up some of these youngsters I believe that we only need a few newcomers in order to build a really strong squad. Of course I think we are all in agreement that the players that we do bring to the club need to be in key positions. Perhaps one or two needed in each of these key positions; goalkeeper, left back and centre forward.
Coley has already started the hunt!

Mr T 03-05-2022 07:58

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Under EFL regulation 67.2 clubs have until the 3rd Saturday in May (or 4 days after their last fixture) to inform their players who are out of contract on June 30th as to whether or not their services will be required for the next season(s)

Coley is away on holiday and we are usually on the last minute when we send our list in.

The good news is the vast majority of the current squad are either have long term contracts or options (to extend) in the club's favour.

choirboy 03-05-2022 08:29

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1266587)
Under EFL regulation 67.2 clubs have until the 3rd Saturday in May (or 4 days after their last fixture) to inform their players who are out of contract on June 30th as to whether or not their services will be required for the next season(s)

Coley is away on holiday and we are usually on the last minute when we send our list in.

The good news is the vast majority of the current squad are either have long term contracts or options (to extend) in the club's favour.

Thanks Mr T. Always helpful.👍

VALAIRIAN 03-05-2022 09:06

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1266587)
Under EFL regulation 67.2 clubs have until the 3rd Saturday in May (or 4 days after their last fixture) to inform their players who are out of contract on June 30th as to whether or not their services will be required for the next season(s)

Coley is away on holiday and we are usually on the last minute when we send our list in.

The good news is the vast majority of the current squad are either have long term contracts or options (to extend) in the club's favour.

Thanks for the update and clarification Mark :)

:)

LongLostSon 03-05-2022 17:10

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
found a scrap of paper on which I noted pre season signings of Tommy Leigh, Joe Hardy and Archie Proctor on 2 year deals - haven't searched fishy for that news period though.

choirboy 03-05-2022 17:35

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLostSon (Post 1266591)
found a scrap of paper on which I noted pre season signings of Tommy Leigh, Joe Hardy and Archie Proctor on 2 year deals - haven't searched fishy for that news period though.

:mosher:Found a profile of Archie Procter on transfermarkt.com. Says he signed a two year contract last summer. So signed up until summer 2023.

choirboy 03-05-2022 17:38

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;

Thanks to for information from LongLostSon about Tommy Leigh and Archie Procter. Found the relevant news item on the transfermarkt.com site. Says Archie and Tommy both signed a two year contract last summer.

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Harvey Rodgers (contract until 2023)
Archie Procter (contract until 2023
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (contract until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Ethan Hamilton (contract until 2023)
Harry Perritt (contract until 2023)
Tommy Leigh (contract until 2023)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)

choirboy 03-05-2022 18:05

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;

The transfermarkt.com site also says Joe Pritchard signed a two year contract last summer.

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Harvey Rodgers (contract until 2023)
Archie Procter (contract until 2023
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (contract until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Ethan Hamilton (contract until 2023)
Harry Perritt (contract until 2023)
Tommy Leigh (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)

Crown Grounder 04-05-2022 14:24

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
And what about our main goal provider!......... Valairian will surely know?

choirboy 04-05-2022 16:02

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown Grounder (Post 1266599)
And what about our main goal provider!......... Valairian will surely know?

I presume you are referring to Sean McConville……….?
Valairian has suggested, at his comment at #10, that Sean is still in contract. However, I can’t find any news reports on the Fishy site or information on football stats sites that verify this. So can’t really put him on the squad list as a ‘definite’ yet!:idunno:

choirboy 04-05-2022 16:10

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1266566)
Harry Pell signed a 3 years deal :)

Sean is under contract also :)

Joe, can you direct me towards a news report or player profile page that shows Sean’s contract status please?:rolleyes:

Crown Grounder 05-05-2022 08:31

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1266601)
Joe, can you direct me towards a news report or player profile page that shows Sean’s contract status please?:rolleyes:

I've searched the Stanley website and the last contract info for Sean is he signed a new deal in July 2019 until June 2022. Not sure if that will include an option for the club to trigger an extra year.

Mr T 05-05-2022 08:55

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list going "live" at 10am

Yes we have an option for Sean

Exile on Spencer St 05-05-2022 09:23

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Can’t believe we’re letting Stephen Sama go! :rolleyes:
His must be one of the weirdest stays at Stanley.

andyd 05-05-2022 09:28

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Sama, Mansell, Spinnelli, Stowe and Pleavin released Butcher a free agent after a contract that wasn't an improvement.

andyd 05-05-2022 09:30

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
31 players under contract or had their clauses activated, looking forward to new signings when or if they happen.

VALAIRIAN 05-05-2022 10:42

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
From website :)


https://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/...retained-list/

VALAIRIAN 05-05-2022 10:44

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Goalkeeper - Chappers style - and a striker and we are away :)

:)

VALAIRIAN 05-05-2022 11:08

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
By that I mean with some age and experience, which will help Toby and his development :)

Twenty Eight 05-05-2022 13:58

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Just because players are under contract / retained doesn't mean they will be with us next season.
Every player has his price.

I'm expecting pressure re Bishop Savin Sykes Pritchard Leigh.
At least club is in the driving seat for a change.
I wonder if the budget allows for any improved terms to be offered to certain players.

andyd 05-05-2022 14:16

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1266614)
Just because players are under contract / retained doesn't mean they will be with us next season.
Every player has his price.

I'm expecting pressure re Bishop Savin Sykes Pritchard Leigh.
At least club is in the driving seat for a change.
I wonder if the budget allows for any improved terms to be offered to certain players.

If any that you mentioned go for a decent price maybe then the budget will be increased but way Andy Holt has been talking on twitter about the impact and uncertainty for business,s with the war in Ukraine and the cost of living wouldn't expect too much.

Exile on Spencer St 05-05-2022 16:33

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1266614)
I wonder if the budget allows for any improved terms to be offered to certain players.

Ever the agent! ;)

choirboy 06-05-2022 09:01

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;

Updated following issue of Club Retained List on Fishy site.
I will try to keep this updated as the summer progresses if players take up their offers
of contract extensions and also regarding any transfer activity etc.

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Liam Isherwood (contract for 2022-2023 season)
Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Harvey Rodgers (contract until 2023)
Archie Procter (contract until 2023
Jar Rich-Baghuelou (contract for 2022-2023)
Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (contract until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Ethan Hamilton (contract until 2023)
Harry Perritt (contract until 2023)
Tommy Leigh (contract until 2023)
Emerich Poilly (contract until 2024)
Rossaire Longelo (contract for 2022-2023 season)
Tom Scully (contract for 2022-2023 season)
Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)
Korede Adedoyin (contract for 2022-2023 season) Total = 20 Players

The following players have had their contract extensions triggered:
Ross Sykes, Colby Bishop, Sean McConville, Liam Coyle, Dylan Moonan, Dan Martin, Matty Carson, Rhys Fenlon, Oliver Patrick, Jack Nolan and Josh Woods. Total = 11 Players

The following players have been offered new deals:
Matt Butcher. Total = 1 Player

choirboy 06-05-2022 09:15

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
A couple of questions about … ‘Contract Extensions Triggered’….?
Q1 Does this mean that these players are now fully signed up and under contract for another season?
Q2 Or do they still need to agree to their extensions and then sign up?

ie. For example, if Ross Sykes agrees to a transfer to another club will we get a fee to cover his ‘extended’ contract?:idunno:

StanleyJosh 06-05-2022 11:06

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1266622)
A couple of questions about … ‘Contract Extensions Triggered’….?
Q1 Does this mean that these players are now fully signed up and under contract for another season?
Q2 Or do they still need to agree to their extensions and then sign up?

ie. For example, if Ross Sykes agrees to a transfer to another club will we get a fee to cover his ‘extended’ contract?:idunno:


Hi Choirboy,

Q1 - Yes, they are under contract for at least another season.
Q2 - No, the option is decided by the club. Once 'activated' - if Ross was to be transferred to another club for example, he would be classed as under contract so highly likely a fee would be involved.

choirboy 06-05-2022 11:14

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1266623)
Hi Choirboy,

Q1 - Yes, they are under contract for at least another season.
Q2 - No, the option is decided by the club. Once 'activated' - if Ross was to be transferred to another club for example, he would be classed as under contract so highly likely a fee would be involved.

Thank you StanleyJosh.
Good news that we could get a transfer fee for any outgoing transfers.:alright:

Twenty Eight 06-05-2022 13:06

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1266616)
Ever the agent! ;)

Nothing to do with that.
We have 17 players out of contract at the end of next season.
17 !

andyd 06-05-2022 13:27

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1266625)
Nothing to do with that.
We have 17 players out of contract at the end of next season.
17 !

Is that all back in the day we were lucky if we had a single player under contract going into the following season, still think the squad is a bit unbalanced too many midfielders Coleman's comments not mine we have good defender,s but can't defend collectavly, so can see defender or plus coming in.

Exile on Spencer St 06-05-2022 13:47

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1266625)
Nothing to do with that.
We have 17 players out of contract at the end of next season.
17 !

Oh, sorry. You’re worried about 23/24 season!
I thought you were asking for “certain” players to be given more money for this coming season.

VALAIRIAN 06-05-2022 16:47

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1266626)
Is that all back in the day we were lucky if we had a single player under contract going into the following season, still think the squad is a bit unbalanced too many midfielders Coleman's comments not mine we have good defender,s but can't defend collectavly, so can see defender or plus coming in.

Correct Andy, remember the days well..............

There is a train of thought that that is the better way?!?!

:)

VALAIRIAN 06-05-2022 16:48

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1266626)
Is that all back in the day we were lucky if we had a single player under contract going into the following season, still think the squad is a bit unbalanced too many midfielders Coleman's comments not mine we have good defender,s but can't defend collectavly, so can see defender or plus coming in.

Correct, far, far too many midfielders, hence the reason we tried putting Harry up front....

Needs to be addressed!


:)

Exile on Spencer St 06-05-2022 17:28

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1266630)
Correct, far, far too many midfielders, hence the reason we tried putting Harry up front....

Needs to be addressed!
:)

Not so easy. If they are all under contract the only way to reduce numbers this summer would be to accept bids for our higher-profile (i.e. better) midfield players - that way there’d be fewer.
But any new striker(s) bought with the resultant money may not get such good service next season, and end up having a disappointing return on the investment.
I’ll leave it to Professor Coleman and his team to sort things out.

andyd 06-05-2022 17:37

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1266632)
Not so easy. If they are all under contract the only way to reduce numbers this summer would be to accept bids for our higher-profile (i.e. better) midfield players - that way there’d be fewer.
But any new striker(s) bought with the resultant money may not get such good service next season, and end up having a disappointing return on the investment.
I’ll leave it to Professor Coleman and his team to sort things out.

Quite correct but personally with our poor away form and goals against column I think an experienced keeper and defender are a must hopefully with a fit Joe Pritchard next season the goals will come, Ripley and Huntington both leaving Preston beyond us financially probably but can dream.

VALAIRIAN 07-05-2022 18:10

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1266632)
Not so easy. If they are all under contract the only way to reduce numbers this summer would be to accept bids for our higher-profile (i.e. better) midfield players - that way there’d be fewer.
But any new striker(s) bought with the resultant money may not get such good service next season, and end up having a disappointing return on the investment.
I’ll leave it to Professor Coleman and his team to sort things out.

I know Exile, but we did not have to sign all of them ;) :)


:)

Haggis316 07-05-2022 18:55

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
I thought this statement from Coley on announcing the retained list sounded ominous and chimed (no pun intended) with the rumoured interest from Portsmouth:

"Midfielder Matt Butcher has been offered a deal but John Coleman said: "Matt has been a good servant to the club and we wish him all the best.""

VALAIRIAN 07-05-2022 19:03

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
He said this also :)

"We did offer him a new contact but have been unable to offer him an improved contract, so he is now a free agent."

Lord Stiffupperlip 08-05-2022 07:44

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Matt Butcher gone!
Well at least that will please all those moaning that we have too many midfielders.
Who's next? Pritchard or Pell perhaps.

andyd 08-05-2022 09:24

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Matt doesn't become a free agent until the 30th of June the player and club couldn't agree on an improvement to his contract but seeing has there have been rumours of a move back Southwards for some time it comes has no surprise, anyone else moving on will require a fee not moaning about too many midfielders it's obvious to most it's an unbalanced squad but hopefully Hardy after his loan spell in Scotland could come back and be the answer to the striker scenario goalkeeper and experienced defender definitely needed.

Exile on Spencer St 08-05-2022 11:55

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Given his total absence from the ‘Cally’s’ goal scorers list, and (I think) use only as a late substitute, you may be being a tad over-optimistic hoping Joe Hardy is the answer to Stanley’s ‘goals for’ problems.
Hope I’m wrong, really hope he comes good and turns out to be Kee MkII.

Young Josh Woods showed great promise, offering a lot of pace, but at his stage of career I can’t see him turning into a goal machine over one summer.

VALAIRIAN 08-05-2022 13:43

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Josh Woods needs to be given the chance next season.

As you said, showed the correct attitude and most importantly, he knew how to be a striker/goal scorer :)

:)

Twenty Eight 09-05-2022 13:20

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1266647)
Matt Butcher gone!
Well at least that will please all those moaning that we have too many midfielders.
Who's next? Pritchard or Pell perhaps.

Another 12 months on the same money - or 2 to 3 years elsewhere on more money. Not hard to work out is it ?
Can't be bothered to start the same old same old about budgets.
Pitch - fantastic.
Corporate - massive improvement.
Training facilities
Smart new dressing rooms.
Hopefully it's now the turn of the product on the pitch.
I can't see it though.
I hope we hang on to Savin Sykes Pritchard Leigh.
There will be interest.

Greger 09-05-2022 13:29

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Very sorry to see Butcher go. Impressed me as the engine room the very few times I got to see him.

Hope Coley can find a striker (or two) and allow Pell to play where he belongs.

andyd 09-05-2022 13:58

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1266653)
Another 12 months on the same money - or 2 to 3 years elsewhere on more money. Not hard to work out is it ?
Can't be bothered to start the same old same old about budgets.
Pitch - fantastic.
Corporate - massive improvement.
Training facilities
Smart new dressing rooms.
Hopefully it's now the turn of the product on the pitch.
I can't see it though.
I hope we hang on to Savin Sykes Pritchard Leigh.
There will be interest.

Few ways of looking at the Butcher scenario the club didn't offer him a pay rise, so either didn't care wether he stayed or not new already his agent his promising a nugget else where or we haven't got the money to keep a midfielder when we need body's elsewhere or the budget isn't going up. Only time will tell on the budget but a decent amount incoming on a sale of one of ours could free up some money

VALAIRIAN 09-05-2022 14:08

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Butcher wanted to go back south, cannot blame him for that.

Half decent player, who did his job :)

Good luck to him, wish him well :)

andyd 09-05-2022 14:53

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Arron Chapman released by Gillingham.

Exile on Spencer St 09-05-2022 17:38

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1266657)
Arron Chapman released by Gillingham.

Hope he wants to move back north.

VALAIRIAN 09-05-2022 17:49

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1266658)
Hope he wants to move back north.

And a massive drop in pay......................


:) :)

Lost in Cornwall 10-05-2022 08:27

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
I'm not claiming to have any expertise on the matter but of the four players Twenty Eight has just named, Ross is the only one I can see attracting a lot of interest. Toby may do but definately lost confidence towards the end of the season regarding his positioning which may affect people's willingness to take a risk on him. The other two are, I think, too risky for others at the moment. Joe Pritchard has hardly played this season so I think clubs would want him to prove his fitness first and Tommy has only had most of a season at this level so again may need to prove himself more yet.

Regarding the investment. I'm afraid I'm part of the old brigade who has spent much iof my life travelling the country and being asked "Accrington, didn't they used to have a football team?" At whatever level we were playing I was proud to reply that they still do. I love being in League 1 and testing ourselves against some of the bigger names of football but I'd rather have a club to support than end up the way some of our recent rivals have gone, notably Bury.

andyd 10-05-2022 08:55

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost in Cornwall (Post 1266663)
I'm not claiming to have any expertise on the matter but of the four players Twenty Eight has just named, Ross is the only one I can see attracting a lot of interest. Toby may do but definately lost confidence towards the end of the season regarding his positioning which may affect people's willingness to take a risk on him. The other two are, I think, too risky for others at the moment. Joe Pritchard has hardly played this season so I think clubs would want him to prove his fitness first and Tommy has only had most of a season at this level so again may need to prove himself more yet.

Regarding the investment. I'm afraid I'm part of the old brigade who has spent much iof my life travelling the country and being asked "Accrington, didn't they used to have a football team?" At whatever level we were playing I was proud to reply that they still do. I love being in League 1 and testing ourselves against some of the bigger names of football but I'd rather have a club to support than end up the way some of our recent rivals have gone, notably Bury.

Some "big" clubs at this level now and we can't compete budget wise, Sheffield Wednesday in again next season and suspect has Sunderland before them did significantly reduce their budget, looking at some early retained lists lots of free agents that in current financial times especially in the EFL may have to bite the bullet and take less money to continue playing.

Lost in Cornwall 14-05-2022 07:39

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Decided to watch Arbroath v Inverness Cally Thistle last night to see if I could get a look at Joe Hardy. Came on as sub after 60 minutes but the ref, who was of the Kettle variety, decided to send one of their players off a couple of minutes later. Injuries and a second strange sending off meant they spent most of the rest of the game and extra time playing with 9 men, and for a few minutes 8 which meant he didn't really get much of a look in playing as a lone striker. Too small to win the ball and hold it up but has a good turn of pace. The one half chance he got, he created with his pace but then put the shot high and wide. Confidently scored his penalty in the shoot out.

andyd 14-05-2022 08:17

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost in Cornwall (Post 1266693)
Decided to watch Arbroath v Inverness Cally Thistle last night to see if I could get a look at Joe Hardy. Came on as sub after 60 minutes but the ref, who was of the Kettle variety, decided to send one of their players off a couple of minutes later. Injuries and a second strange sending off meant they spent most of the rest of the game and extra time playing with 9 men, and for a few minutes 8 which meant he didn't really get much of a look in playing as a lone striker. Too small to win the ball and hold it up but has a good turn of pace. The one half chance he got, he created with his pace but then put the shot high and wide. Confidently scored his penalty in the shoot out.

I've watched three games now in the playoffs struggled on his own and some wayward passing but he can control the ball and like you say has a bit of pace about him hopefully back at Stanley and can get a place in the side.

andyd 14-05-2022 09:53

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Just a quick one on Inverness over the 3 games I,ve watched Mark Ridgers the keeper has been excellent superb penalty save in the shootout last night, commands his box brave diving for the ball at feet enjoyed watching him.

andyd 19-05-2022 13:48

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
According to press reports in Portsmouth Cowley has changed his mind about Matt Butcher other areas of the team are more in need of strengthening. My guess if he wants to be closer to ' home ' is he will end up with Barton at Bristol Rovers.

Exile on Spencer St 20-05-2022 12:15

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1266748)
My guess if he wants to be closer to ' home ' is he will end up with Barton at Bristol Rovers.

Surely no-one can be that desperate?:rolleyes:

cashman 20-05-2022 13:06

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1266755)
Surely no-one can be that desperate?:rolleyes:

dont kid yerself.

Exile on Spencer St 20-05-2022 21:58

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost in Cornwall (Post 1266693)
Decided to watch Arbroath v Inverness Cally Thistle last night to see if I could get a look at Joe Hardy...

Hardy started tonight but was subbed at half time with ICF 0-2 down. Mmm.

Tin Monkey 23-05-2022 10:19

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Lots of talk over here about Matt Butcher going to Bradford City. No idea if it's accurate.

choirboy 23-05-2022 13:22

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Retained list 2022/2023;
All players including some U23’s on contracts.

Updated following issue of Club Retained List on Fishy site.
I will try to keep this updated as the summer progresses if players take up their offers
of contract extensions and also regarding any transfer activity etc.

Goalkeepers ?
Toby Savin: (contract until 2023)
Liam Isherwood (contract for 2022-2023 season)

Defenders?
Michael Nottingham (contract until 2023)
Mitch Clark (contract until 2023)
Harvey Rodgers (contract until 2023)
Archie Procter (contract until 2023
Jay Rich-Baghuelou (contract for 2022-2023)
Ross Sykes (contract extension triggered)
Matty Carson (contract extension triggered)

Midfielders?
Seamus Coneelly (contract until 2023)
Harry Pell (contract until 2023)
Joe Pritchard (contract until 2023)
John O’Sullivan (contract until 2024)
David Morgan (contract until 2024)
Ethan Hamilton (contract until 2023)
Harry Perritt (contract until 2023)
Tommy Leigh (contract until 2023)
Emerich Poilly (contract until 2024)
Rossaire Longelo (contract for 2022-2023 season)
Tom Scully (contract for 2022-2023 season)
Liam Coyle (contract extension triggered)
Dylan Moonan (contract extension triggered)
Dan Martin (contract extension triggered)
Rhys Fenlon (contract extension triggered)
Oliver Patrick (contract extension triggered)

Forwards?
Joe Hardy (contract until 2023)
Korede Adedoyin (contract for 2022-2023 season)
Colby Bishop (contract extension triggered)
Sean McConville (contract extension triggered)
Josh Woods (contract extension triggered)
Jack Nolan (contract extension triggered)

Total = 31 Players

choirboy 23-05-2022 13:26

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Anyone got thoughts regarding the release by their clubs of Callum Johnson and Michael Ihieckwe? Could they be possible targets for us to sign up?:idunno:

andyd 23-05-2022 14:16

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
I,d have Ihiekwe back in an heartbeat Johnson too but the right hand side isn't that much of a priority with Mitch Clark probably a better option. Mo Sangare could well be a target has he is described as an attacking option.

MikeA 27-05-2022 18:13

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
For what it's worth, a list of players released by League 1 clubs:
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...2021-22-season

It includes Shaun Whalley from Shrewsbury. And Adebayo Akinfenwa has hung his boots up!

andyd 31-05-2022 16:22

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Mo Sangare back at Stanley signing a two year contract another midfielder I know but can play in the attacking role can see one or two current midfielders moving on if right offers come in.

Exile on Spencer St 31-05-2022 17:37

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Good luck to the lad, hope he shows us what he can do.

choirboy 31-05-2022 19:50

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1266842)
Mo Sangare back at Stanley signing a two year contract another midfielder I know but can play in the attacking role can see one or two current midfielders moving on if right offers come in.

Could be a really good signing. Unlucky when on loan to get a bad injury that limited him to just four appearances in the red shirt of Stanley. He comes over very positively in his interview. God luck Mo, looking forward to seeing you in the coming season.:mosher::jimbo:

Dav1d 10-06-2022 13:04

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
John O'Sullivan joined bohemain football Club

cashman 10-06-2022 13:08

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dav1d (Post 1266902)
John O'Sullivan joined bohemain football Club

thats good news to me.

andyd 10-06-2022 13:32

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dav1d (Post 1266902)
John O'Sullivan joined bohemain football Club

Good luck to the lad had some good times at Stanley struggled a bit last season.

Twenty Eight 10-06-2022 15:42

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Never understood him be re signed in the first place.
No loss.

Exile on Spencer St 10-06-2022 16:35

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Good luck to him, but agree with both Cashy and 28 on this one!

Lost in Cornwall 10-06-2022 17:48

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Agreed. Was very surprised when we re-signed him. Wish him well for the future though.

Crown Grounder 11-06-2022 10:00

Re: Retained list 2022.
 
Good luck to John O'Sully. ............I think he always struggled to live up to fans expectations of him. He was one of those players that fans expected him to produce something amazing in every game he played.........never going to happen is it........plus injuries affected his career.....and is presumably why he ended up back at Stanley....


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