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Old 16-04-2011, 13:55   #31
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It seemed more like clutching at straws to me, pure B.S.


I'll have one for you but you'll have to pay and yes, I do accept PayPal.
Ya never know Less I may just surprise ya one day and call in, in person, do they take Visa in the Railway
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Old 16-04-2011, 22:24   #32
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lol jaysay you woule make a terrible DJ....

you never change the record

sory pal couldnt resist
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Old 17-04-2011, 09:26   #33
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lol jaysay you woule make a terrible DJ....

you never change the record

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Ya know me accyman, I have my favorite music and keep playing it, works for me
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Old 17-04-2011, 16:08   #34
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Ya know me accyman, I have my favorite music and keep playing it, works for me
just dont start dancing lol
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Old 17-04-2011, 17:43   #35
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just dont start dancing lol
I've only ever danced to the right tune Accyman
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Old 17-04-2011, 18:27   #36
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you nowe what they are like,but they have no money for anything else
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Old 19-04-2011, 07:51   #37
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So, we're enduring massive cuts which are really affecting our standards of living, while Cameron and his cronies are squandering our money on...

...a 37% increase in foreign aid, much of which is going to countries who spend large amounts on weapons and even in India's case, the space race.

...increasing involvement in yet another bout of foreign adventurism in Libya which has cost £25 million so far with no end in sight.

...the possibility of donating billions to an aid package for Portugal - a country which has failed to introduce its own programme of austerity cuts of the sort that we are having to endure. And before anyone starts bleating about Darling having signed up to the agreement, the Tories' own leader in the EU parliament has said that the government could contest our commitment to this both politically and legally. The fact is Cameron is more concerned about maintaining good relations with Brussels than he is with the welfare of the British people.

But we're not finished yet, far from it. While preaching austerity, the government is endlessly inventive in the ways it finds to squander our money abroad. How about this piece of lunacy?

EU 'wastes billions in aid' - Telegraph

Are YOU happy that £1.4 billion of your hard-earned taxes are being spent like this?
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Old 19-04-2011, 08:17   #38
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It's costing £40,000.00 per night, or £1.2 million pounds per month, just to accommodate British troops in 4 star Italian hotels.

This figure would have been zero, if Cameron hadn't axed the Ark Royal.

£ 1.2M A Month For RAF To Stay In Italian Hotels - UK's #1 Community: Navy, Marines, Army, RAF
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Old 20-04-2011, 10:15   #39
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...and now we're going to have to pay even more to the EU!

British taxpayers face £600m bill as EU defies Cameron's calls for austerity - Telegraph

Time to show some bottle, Cameron (but I won't hold my breath).
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Old 20-04-2011, 10:41   #40
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It's costing £40,000.00 per night, or £1.2 million pounds per month, just to accommodate British troops in 4 star Italian hotels.

This figure would have been zero, if Cameron hadn't axed the Ark Royal.

£ 1.2M A Month For RAF To Stay In Italian Hotels - UK's #1 Community: Navy, Marines, Army, RAF

So the Ark cost nowt to run then did it Rindy?

I'm pretty sure that with fuel and upkeep it was probably not far off that figure itself.
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Old 20-04-2011, 10:52   #41
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So the Ark cost nowt to run then did it Rindy?

I'm pretty sure that with fuel and upkeep it was probably not far off that figure itself.
Whist running the "Ark" would be expensive no doubt, i'm pretty sure it can't be as much as that.
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Old 20-04-2011, 11:08   #42
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So the Ark cost nowt to run then did it Rindy?

I'm pretty sure that with fuel and upkeep it was probably not far off that figure itself.
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Whist running the "Ark" would be expensive no doubt, i'm pretty sure it can't be as much as that.
Quietly amazing! One for, one against but both having 'pretty sure' guesses, no facts, no figures, if only the rest of us could have such certain speculation.
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Old 20-04-2011, 11:12   #43
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Quietly amazing! One for, one against but both having 'pretty sure' guesses, no facts, no figures, if only the rest of us could have such certain speculation.
Unlikely yeh have to be stupid to do that.
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Old 20-04-2011, 12:20   #44
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Quietly amazing! One for, one against but both having 'pretty sure' guesses, no facts, no figures, if only the rest of us could have such certain speculation.

Thanks Less for the prompt, I was a little busy at the time of posting so I thought I'd do a little research.

According to Mr Robathan, Minster of defence and this document

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...vFt8dNhoLAIObg

the cost of running the Ark was 105 million for 4 years so Rindys post quoting 1.2 million a month x 48 = 57.6 million or just under half the running cost of the Ark at full operational capacity, now we know that just parking it in a dock and running it would be less but by how much? I dont think anyone will be able to provide such costings so it will always be a mute point but the point remains valid that it would not be "free".
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Old 20-04-2011, 13:28   #45
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So the Ark cost nowt to run then did it Rindy?

I'm pretty sure that with fuel and upkeep it was probably not far off that figure itself.
Whatever the cost I think the main difference is that you can't transport troops or carry aircraft in Italian hotels
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