Parliamentary Boundary Change

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Poor Belthorn already has three MPs, perhaps we should ask for their views? Even those who have little interest in politics can see that it is Conservative gerrymandering to give them a political advantage and that the Liberal Democrats are rather foolishly going along with it.

My opinion hasn't changed, it's a ghastly idea which I feel pretty certain will be pushed through regardless of any protests but I haven't spoken to one single person who is in favour.

Mind you, I haven't spoken to Cllr Britcliffe on this subject yet and we never seem to agree.....

Some how I have a hell of a feeling you might do on this one Ken

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Gayle

By continually calling it that you are actually informing half of the population that it is a good thing because they will benefit from it. I doubt that is your intention.

There are 101 reasons why this should not go ahead which are regardless of party politics. But, but constantly pointing out that Conservatives will benefit, you are actually giving them a reason to stay quiet.

To stop it going through you need the whole electorate on your side. Concentrate on the real reasons then we can get some solidarity on this one.

Couldn't agree more Gayle, I certainly can't see the Tories benefiting from this dogs breakfast if it becomes law, well certainly not here anyway

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Gayle

By continually calling it that you are actually informing half of the population that it is a good thing because they will benefit from it. I doubt that is your intention.

There are 101 reasons why this should not go ahead which are regardless of party politics. But, but constantly pointing out that Conservatives will benefit, you are actually giving them a reason to stay quiet.

To stop it going through you need the whole electorate on your side. Concentrate on the real reasons then we can get some solidarity on this one.

Quite agree.

It's us, the people who live here, who are likely to be split up, and be tagged on as an afterthought to neighbouring constituencies, who'll suffer.

We could bicker until we're blue in the face about whether it's gerrymandering, and who will benefit.

This will not make the slightest bit of difference to the outcome.

Arguing over the reason why is a complete waste of time, and energy.

The fact is the Boundary Commission have put forward a proposal, that will mean this area no longer has a dedicated Member of Parliament at Westminster.

Irrespective of political differences, that is what we should be fighting. By at least attempting to campaign for us to hang on to our own M.P., and some regional power, and presence.

If we are divided, it's a certainty this area will lose out.

We should be united.

Besides, the general public know the real reason the idea for reducing the number of M.P.'s has happened.

It's as a direct consequence of the public outrage, that was caused by the political snouts in troughs expenses scandal.

We may be whistling in the wind, in attempting to hold on to having our own constituent M.P.

We should forget the whys, and hows.

It's likely going to happen.

We'll all lose out if it does.

[garinda]

Yes, and I've read up on all the analysis, as to whether some will benefit more than others, and it is likely to affect traditional Labour seats, more than Conservatives.

That's not our, the constituents of Hyndburn's fight.

If the last government hadn't tried to hide their outrageous expenses claims, we wouldn't be facing this situation.

Hyndburn's about to be ripped off twice, and the blame doesn't lie with us.

[garinda]

Good to see the Observer's 'Save Our Seat' campaign is an ongoing one.

Save Our Seat: Ex-Hyndburn MP blasts boundary change proposals | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

[garinda]

The offical Conservative amendment to the proposed changes recommended by the Boundary Commission.

Which supports the local Great Harwood councillors, who wish to be in the Ribble Valley, and would see the borough of Hyndburn split over three constituencies.

Ribble Valley
Great Harwood (Netherton and Overton)
Altham


Darwen and Haslingden
Rishton
Oswaldtwistle (St Andrews, St Oswalds and Immanuel)
Church
Baxenden
Clayton-le-Moors


Burnley and Accrington
Barnfield
Central
Spring Hill
Huncoat
Milnshaw

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

The offical Conservative amendment to the proposed changes recommended by the Boundary Commission.

Which supports the local Great Harwood councillors, who wish to be in the Ribble Valley, and would see the borough of Hyndburn split over three constituencies.

Ribble Valley
Great Harwood (Netherton and Overton)
Altham


Darwen and Haslingden
Rishton
Oswaldtwistle (St Andrews, St Oswalds and Immanuel)
Church
Baxenden
Clayton-le-Moors


Burnley and Accrington
Barnfield
Central
Spring Hill
Huncoat
Milnshaw

Where's that come from Rindi? I know Great Harwood would love to be reunited with Ribble Valley as they were dragged kicking and screaming into Hyndburn in the first place.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Where's that come from Rindi? I know Great Harwood would love to be reunited with Ribble Valley as they were dragged kicking and screaming into Hyndburn in the first place.

It's from the Conservative party's recommended changes to the Boundary Commission report.

It's a big download, and I couldn't work out to attach it, so just copy and pasted the bit about Hyndburn being split into three constituencies.

If I can fathom how to attach it I will.

The Harwood councillors apart, who are in favour of being attached to the Ribble Valley, as far as I understand what Tory H.Q. in London recommend, isn't supported by the majority of Conservative councillors at H.B.C

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

It's from the Conservative party's recommended changes to the Boundary Commission report.

It's a big download, and I couldn't work out to attach it, so just copy and pasted the bit about Hyndburn being split into three constituencies.

If I can fathom how to attach it I will.

The Harwood councillors apart, who are in favour of being attached to the Ribble Valley, as far as I understand what Tory H.Q. in London recommend, isn't supported by the majority of Conservative councillors at H.B.C

Oh thanks for the clarification Rindi, I thought you meant that these changes had been endorsed by the local party, which I though was strange, apart from Gt Harwood that is

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Oh thanks for the clarification Rindi, I thought you meant that these changes had been endorsed by the local party, which I though was strange, apart from Gt Harwood that is

No, it's the national Conservative party.

It was sent as an attachment from someone on the Facebook campaign group.

I've asked for a link so l can give it here, as I couldn't work out how to attach the file to my post.

[garinda]

There's soon to be an overview and scrutiny meeting at Scaitcliffe House, in which each political party's proposals, and amendments to the Boundary Commission's report will be discussed.

On the link are downloads of each party's proposed ideas, regarding the future of the Hyndburn consituency.

Communities and Wellbeing Overview and Scrutiny Committee

This meeting is a cross party one, and is open to members of the public.

Wednesday, 2nd November.
Scaitcliffe House.
Ormerod St.,
Accrington.
BB5 9SA.

The time of the meeting I think is 7.30 pm.
(Hopefully someone will correct me if this is the wrong start time.)

We've been deemed an important enough as an area to warrant having our own M.P. since 1885.

It's so important for this area that we continue having our own dedicated Member of Parliament.

Come to the meeting, join the Facebook group, support the Observer's campaign.

We'll all suffer if we end up tacked on to two, or three, other constituencies.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/250832224959203/

[Tealeaf]

Bloody hell - have you seen the spelling mistakes in item 5?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Bloody hell - have you seen the spelling mistakes in item 5?

I think someone has the spell checker set to US not UK

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

There's soon to be an overview and scrutiny meeting at Scaitcliffe House, in which each political party's proposals, and amendments to the Boundary Commission's report will be discussed.

On the link are downloads of each party's proposed ideas, regarding the future of the Hyndburn consituency.

Communities and Wellbeing Overview and Scrutiny Committee

This meeting is a cross party one, and is open to members of the public.

Wednesday, 2nd November.
Scaitcliffe House.
Ormerod St.,
Accrington.
BB5 9SA.

The time of the meeting I think is 7.30 pm.
(Hopefully someone will correct me if this is the wrong start time.)

We've been deemed an important enough as an area to warrant having our own M.P. since 1885.

It's so important for this area that we continue having our own dedicated Member of Parliament.

Come to the meeting, join the Facebook group, support the Observer's campaign.

We'll all suffer if we end up tacked on to two, or three, other constituencies.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/250832224959203/

Just been informed.

The time of this meeting, on Wednesday 2nd of November, is 10 am.

[groove]

Groove has never voted in his life. He thinks his vote is'nt going to make a difference to the outcome, and if it did the winning party would be just as useless as the others. Groove is disillusioned with politics and life in general.