11 Plus
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So English grammar and arithmetic is common sense is it?
Actually your score was 7/8. I know that the questionnaire assumed that you would write a story about a scarecrow and gave the point anyway, but surely a bright young thing like you would want to write a story and genuinely qualify for 8/8?
Jambutty is correct Andrew .. this is just a shortened version of what was the 11+ included all types of areas, not just the logical/common sense side.
The 11+ was usually a few hours long, split into 2 periods (if I can remember correctly).
Know my son to get into a Grammar School (Ok .. 15 years ago, but after 11+ had finished) .. had to do a 3 hour exam to get in there.
The 11+ was usually a few hours long, split into 2 periods (if I can remember correctly).
Know my son to get into a Grammar School (Ok .. 15 years ago, but after 11+ had finished) .. had to do a 3 hour exam to get in there.
At 11 years of age spelling and grammar would not be such a big issue. However the content of the story and how it was structured would.
However if your forte is going to be politics, then brushing up on your grammar and spelling should be a high priority.
Actually nowadays for the local state grammar school pupils do not do story or any free writing. They do however have passages where they have to pick out the spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes.
That’s a pity because getting pupils to write stories exercises their imagination as well grammar, punctuation and spelling.
Compared to being creative, finding someone else’s mistakes is easy.
Maybe that is one of the reasons why modern youth is so destructive (not all of course)? They haven’t learned to create, just destroy.
Actually Jambutty pretty sure was no story writing in the 11+ when I took it, but as described by Polly.
Only when you get to secondary that some schools look at the structure and imagination more .... not at a Grammar School though, they are still strict about spelling and punctuation, plus the structure of course.
Only when you get to secondary that some schools look at the structure and imagination more .... not at a Grammar School though, they are still strict about spelling and punctuation, plus the structure of course.
Rather a sweeping (and incorrect) remark that, jambutty.
Grammar school for me.Six scored.Deja vu.
I can’t remember my 11+ back in 1948 but the book of quizzes was listing exams from the 40’s and 50’s.
It does state, “Test your knowledge with these genuine questions from the original eleven-plus.” So the questions would have come from those eras and unless they have got it all wrong, included write a short story.
Which remark would that be?
There are three remarks and one question. It can’t be the question because a question cannot be wrong.
Rather than trying (and failing) to take a poke at me and what I post, you really should try first of all finding your brain (you could be sat on it), then engaging it before going anywhere near your keyboard.
So mush back in the creche.
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Which remark would that be?
There are three remarks and one question. It can’t be the question because a question cannot be wrong.
Rather than trying (and failing) to take a poke at me and what I post, you really should try first of all finding your brain (you could be sat on it), then engaging it before going anywhere near your keyboard.
So mush back in the creche.
I thought you never started the insult throwing?
It's you who is appearing as a child you fool.
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This is the completely incorrect remark. You have no evidence that a) the youth of today is any more destructive than any other past generation of youths and b) that children aren't learning to create. It's an idiotic statement. No need to start insulting people just because you're wrong.
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I don’t. It was a response to your attempt in having a dig at me.
But the remark that you refer to is a question denoted by the question mark at the end of the sentence.
My 71 years of age against your 19 years suggest that I have actually experienced more life than you and thus I am much more qualified than you to compare the youth of today with the youth of yesterday.
As I said get back to the crèche.
Oh you must be a paranoid soul. I stated that your remark was incorrect and generalised - nothing more. How you construed that as a 'dig' at you is a mystery.
Possibly. Or, my actual being in the youth of today and you being incredibly out of touch with the said youth may lead to believe that I'm much more qualified to make assertions about my generation.
Stop being a cranky old fool sir. It doesn't suit you.
Have just been up in the loft looking through some of my son's exercise books .. year 4 at All Saint's Primary .. (18 years ago ?). Came across a piece he had written about Moses, updated to modern times .. lol. Comment by teacher was "I will give you a star for imagination and interest, but Jamie when are you going to learn how to use full stops ?" So, structure and imagination was not dead then, plus the grammar. Still feel he is the youth of today at 26. Was not really destructive teaching Jambutty.
Then remain mystified or better still brush up on your understanding of the English language.
I have 4 children (all adults now), 11 grandchildren some still at school (thus they are the youth of today) and 5 great grandchildren who also qualify as the youth of today even if the oldest is only 7.
And to boot I live right across the road from a high school where I cannot help but observe the youth of today from time to time as they arrive at and leave from the school each day. Plus their dinner time antics.
Regarding your final sentence, my remark of the day fits in quite nicely. “It takes one to know one.”