2011 Census

shillelagh said:
If you look on that link i gave you before you will see that the rehearsal questionnaire for 2009 is there which will give you some idea of what the questions will be. Also if you read a couple of pages about the census you will see this:

Parliament will make the final decisions on the content and questions to be asked in the 2011 Census. The Census Order which includes details about the topics and questions to be asked will be laid before Parliament in October, debated and approved towards the end of 2009 and then made by the Privy Council in January 2010 The Census questionnaires form part of the Census Regulations which will be approved by Parliament in Spring 2010.

Anyway why are you so bothered about it now .. its 2 years off not 2 weeks or 2 months off.
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So they can change it to ask any questions they like, so this rehearsal questionnair is just a this is what it might be.

Why not ask the questions way in advance, why wait till its weeks / Months away, I am also concerend who will be storing this data.

churchman phil said:
So as this is done every 10 years I take it Mr D you ain't filled one out before?? If you have then why whinge about it now??
There are no names on these things, just the address of the household. You fill in the names of those who live there at that time from 1 day old to 121 years old - everybody. You lie you're in trouble.
As has already been said above it is the law and you HAVE to fill it in. Like you said, your details are held by various organisations already so what is the problem??
I would also have presumed the second home question would be for 30 consecutive days??
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I have not filled one in before that I can remember (maybe I was added on one by my parents, maybe I slipped the net?).

There are No names - There are names??? it wants everybodys name and details who live at the address.

As defended before just because its LAW doesnt mean you cannot challange it.

My problem is Its my choice to give other organisations my details, and not as in this much detail, the problem is I DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE with this census.

The second home question asks, "Do you stay at another address for more than 30 days a year". (not consecutive by the look of it).
 
***Mr D*** said:
I do understand that its been around for a very long time, and Im still wondering as to its uses.

Mr Poland getting his collar felt, that would be a first, Mr Poland doesnt exist, or if he does the other 7 occupants dont.

As for Its the Law of the land, I feel this is why it can be challanged, questionned.

Upon reading the 2009 Rehearsal Questionair.

A Question I saw was usual address and SECOND ADDRESS where you might stay more than 30 days a year, I mean why do they need to know this? So If I babysit and my sisters ever friday (52 days a year) I have to tell them
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In 04/05 there were over 2m students in the UK. That number has risen since then - the majority of those students will live at university for most of the year but go home for xmas/summer. That is a large group of people with two addresses - enough to warrant it being recorded.
 
If 8 years ago you were living with your parents then whoever filled it in then will have added you to that. That would probably be why you didnt see it then.
 
SamF said:
In 04/05 there were over 2m students in the UK. That number has risen since then - the majority of those students will live at university for most of the year but go home for xmas/summer. That is a large group of people with two addresses - enough to warrant it being recorded.
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We also have to remember we have quite a few MPs with two homes too:rolleyes:
 
SamF said:
In 04/05 there were over 2m students in the UK. That number has risen since then - the majority of those students will live at university for most of the year but go home for xmas/summer. That is a large group of people with two addresses - enough to warrant it being recorded.
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A Possability, but why should they care where you are? what difference does it make?

What if I moved 2 days after completing the census.

shillelagh said:
If 8 years ago you were living with your parents then whoever filled it in then will have added you to that. That would probably be why you didnt see it then.
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Possible.

What I cant understand is why it compulsory. what benefits will we see from completing the census?

What benefit could other companies make from holding all the data from ALL UK citizens (According to "its the law" so everyone has to complete it)
 
Right, Mr D, you don't want to do it (though you must). Never mind the rights and wrongs of it, you're not happy. The only way for you to look at it, then, is one of pure altruism. Think of your descendants, your great grandchildren perhaps, doing their ancestor research. Your entry will make it so much easier for them. :D
 
West Ender said:
Right, Mr D, you don't want to do it (though you must). Never mind the rights and wrongs of it, you're not happy. The only way for you to look at it, then, is one of pure altruism. Think of your descendants, your great grandchildren perhaps, doing their ancestor research. Your entry will make it so much easier for them. :D
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Your right Im not happy about completing it I dont see why I should if I dont want to.

Surely I should have a choice? (even though I know I dont)

I like the word altruism (I had to google it):D
 
Its not a matter of where you are but who you are Mr D, they only want to now where you are on one particular day, not over period of time, this gives the government an idea how many people are legally living in this country
 
jaysay said:
Its not a matter of where you are but who you are Mr D, they only want to now where you are on one particular day, not over period of time, this gives the government an idea how many people are legally living in this country
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If only I believed that, Whats with the questions, re Property Type, how many rooms, how many cars, why do they need my DOB, my qualifications & employment details (Inc Address).

Gives the goverment a idea how many people are legal living in the country, do they not already have this informtion?

katex said:
Wouldn't be much point if you had a choice Mr D would there ? :D
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True, but I bet 50%+ of sheeple would still complete it if they had a choice.
 
***Mr D*** said:
True, but I bet 50%+ of sheeple would still complete it if they had a choice.
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Think you meant 'would not' complete Mr D ... I think you are incorrect with your 50% here though. Suspect most people will have no objection to doing the Census form.
 
You have got to remember Mr D that census forms are not intended to catch out illegal immigrants or your deep dark secrets.

Gives planners, education, housing, transport, elderly care authorities, etc., a picture of where facilities may be required in the future. All done for the good of your community.
 
katex said:
You have got to remember Mr D that census forms are not intended to catch out illegal immigrants or your deep dark secrets.

Gives planners, education, housing, transport, elderly care authorities, etc., a picture of where facilities may be required in the future. All done for the good of your community.
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I cant see how completing a form will do anything apart from waste goverment money (especially at this difficult time).

Things change every day.

But catching Illegal immigrants seems a better way to waste money than compiling information about the genuine public.
 
***Mr D*** said:
I cant see how completing a form will do anything apart from waste goverment money (especially at this difficult time).

Things change every day.
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I think it is the best way of getting a full picture of population movement, density, would be far more expensive to cross reference tax, registration offices, car users, employment, housing,education records and so on, to see where facilities are needed in the future. In the end, will save money.

Things don't change that quickly either ... 10 years is a fair enough period in my opinion.
 
***Mr D*** said:
I cant see how completing a form will do anything apart from waste goverment money (especially at this difficult time).

Things change every day.

But catching Illegal immigrants seems a better way to waste money than compiling information about the genuine public.
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I think really you need to look at this with an open mind without cynicism My D, after all this head count has been going on for rather a long time and as kate said it does help the government of the day, look to forward planning in all aspects of life.
 
katex said:
I think it is the best way of getting a full picture of population movement, density, would be far more expensive to cross reference tax, registration offices, car users, employment, housing,education records and so on, to see where facilities are needed in the future. In the end, will save money.

Things don't change that quickly either ... 10 years is a fair enough period in my opinion.
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I feel a As and when aproach would be a better solution. give facilities as and when needed not a guess from a form.

If I look back 10 years, things have change for me a lot.

jaysay said:
I think really you need to look at this with an open mind without cynicism My D, after all this head count has been going on for rather a long time and as kate said it does help the government of the day, look to forward planning in all aspects of life.
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I am looking at it with a open mind.

Im looking at it saying, do we not have a choice, I may answer freely the questions, but there may be some I feel is none of there business.

The thing is we do not know EXACTLY what questions will be asked, as it states it can change at any time.

Also Why do they need a DOB, would age not be enough?

Help the government with forward planning, They already have a plan.:rolleyes:
 
DoB is for all in the house. It could identify trends in when babies are being born, which sections of society, whether it ties in with boom or bust in the economy, average family size, etc etc etc....
This in turn leads to other things like location of schools (how many future pupils?), housing (how many beds?), benefits (how much more can the country borrow?) and lots more.

It isn't just about you now Mr D it's about your childrens future too....
 
MargaretR said:
It will help in the planning of a population reduction :rolleyes::D
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Of course you mean where Family Planning clinics are needed more Margaret .... ;):D

***Mr D*** said:
I am looking at it with a open mind.



Also Why do they need a DOB, would age not be enough?
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It is good that you question Mr D .. nowt wrong with that. At least we still have the freedom to do this, just not the freedom to ignore this form.

DOB ? ... well, amongst these stastics will give a view of what time of year most babies are born in order to alert the Health Authority (or when they are conceived and having the most fun ... :D )
 
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