In my project to draw a new map of Accy town centre I've come across Adrian Shurmer who produced some street guides. Does anyone know where I can buy a copy of his book?
Adrian Shurmer book
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Adrian made a lot of deliberate mistakes in his maps, which unless you know the area would'nt spot, he caught several people who used his maps without permission.
Retlaw.
Ya I know Walter, he once showed me a couple to illustrate, a little rascal was our Adrian
Many thanks for the info on the book as I will be near the tourist office on Friday.
He deliberately made mistakes that only locals would know - that's interesting - perhaps there should be a little mistake in the new map I'm creating as a sort of homage to Adrian. Any other ideas like this that should be included in the map?
He deliberately made mistakes that only locals would know - that's interesting - perhaps there should be a little mistake in the new map I'm creating as a sort of homage to Adrian. Any other ideas like this that should be included in the map?
If you are going to have an updated map of Accrington published, as well as deliberate mistakes, have it water marked in several places.
Its surprising how many will rip of parts of your map to promote their businesses on web sites and in advertisement, thats how Adrian caught them.
Retlaw.
I was collecting some printing from Lancs Print and Steve asked me what I was doing over the weekend! I gave him one of the balloons. Remarkably he mentioned Shurmer and that many, many years ago they'd printed some maps and they might still be in the archives. How about that! I hope this project brings up more coincidences like that.
So, if you're in town on Saturday morning, come and have a talk with me about creating a new map for the town centre. I don't think you'll miss me or the others and please fill in our questionnaire.
So, if you're in town on Saturday morning, come and have a talk with me about creating a new map for the town centre. I don't think you'll miss me or the others and please fill in our questionnaire.
I can understand the watermarks far more than 'deliberate mistakes', a map is supposed to be of help not to cause confusion for the user. If the map has anything other than accidental mistakes then I would think it isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
Still in these days of the Sat Nav, who needs a creased piece of fold-able paper to get confused?
Doubt if you need either to get to the Railway LessI can understand the watermarks far more than 'deliberate mistakes', a map is supposed to be of help not to cause confusion for the user. If the map has anything other than accidental mistakes then I would think it isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
Still in these days of the Sat Nav, who needs a creased piece of fold-able paper to get confused?
I still use it quite a lot Margaret, even though it is 1988 and some areas may need modification. I find it easy to use and quicker than google.. very simplistic and love the pretty colours..
Also, little tit bits of history in there and enjoy browsing through the adverts and the memories of the people that were associated with such groups as Girl Guides, swimming, camera clubs, etc.Yes, I have found one or two errors Retlaw .... didn't realise they were deliberate ... more like omissions though.
According to the information, Shurmer's Guide was printed by Daltons.
Yes, I have found one or two errors Retlaw .... didn't realise they were deliberate ... more like omissions though.
Those streets (which didn't exist) were added deliberately to catch plagarists, he caught quite a few, including HBC.
It was in the observer some years back.
Retlaw
Those streets (which didn't exist) were added deliberately to catch plagarists, he caught quite a few, including HBC.
It was in the observer some years back.
Retlaw
Weren't one of the streets he invented up Belthorn Walter
No John he didn't include Belthorn on the Street Plan he did of Acc. The deliberate mistakes I found were in Acc.
The book I have is the first edition, the maps were drawn by James S Cunningham, amended by Kenneth Wilkinson.
In the fire brigade in my days we had our own street directory's and hydrant records which we kept up to date on a regular basis, they were never printed as such just hand written on cards, every appliance had a box of cards & a spare box kept in the control room.
Now its done on a computer based on post codes.
I used to keep the farm records up to date, so I went home and went through the copy I kept of the records, went back to the station, they switched the computer on and I beat it 7 out of 10.
Lots of farms don't have a post code, they collect their own mail from the post office.
West Farm and Blue Slates have the same post code as Spire Farm.
Check some out on Google Earth.
Retlaw.
Many thanks for all this info. Its fascinating that local knowledge is far better than post-codes, sat-nav or Google. For instance the Library is in the wrong place on Google and the Town Centre is a beige block. That's one of the reasons for doing a new map and a map that's not just based on the street system because it distorts it. What I mean is that, in order to get the street names bigger so you can read them, the streets are made wider!
In Adrian's first edition there is a street map of Belthorn on page 29 Walter, mind you i've just edited this as I've realised your talking purely about the map and not the guide book
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