Bang on.
If club in the league received a larger cut all it does is inflate wages & transfer fees. Look at what happened in the Premier League with the new tv deal.
Andy Holt
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Bang on.
If club in the league received a larger cut all it does is inflate wages & transfer fees. Look at what happened in the Premier League with the new tv deal.
It's an old chestnut is the debate on money in football. I find myself agreeing with every point of view....
Andy Holt is correct - money is not shared fairly if you are a smaller club and if it wasn't for the smaller clubs there would be no big clubs.
The PL are correct - if it wasn't for the commercial success (and by gum has it been a success) of the big clubs there would be no money to share.
Chewbacca is right - the argument is 25 years too late and that Andy H, as a well off business man, should know that market forces dictate the spoils largely go to the victors (unless he pays his staff the same as he takes)
Others are right that football should not be a business
and so it goes on..... we all have different views on how we'd like football to be
It's the way the wind blows I'm afraid. No one has a master plan for where the game is going, no one to blame for how its evolved. there is truth and hypocrisy in everything we say.
You need these occasional broadsides from the likes of Andy though. If more money is never asked for then it sure as hell won't be forthcoming.
Andy Holt is correct - money is not shared fairly if you are a smaller club and if it wasn't for the smaller clubs there would be no big clubs.
The PL are correct - if it wasn't for the commercial success (and by gum has it been a success) of the big clubs there would be no money to share.
Chewbacca is right - the argument is 25 years too late and that Andy H, as a well off business man, should know that market forces dictate the spoils largely go to the victors (unless he pays his staff the same as he takes)
Others are right that football should not be a business
and so it goes on..... we all have different views on how we'd like football to be
It's the way the wind blows I'm afraid. No one has a master plan for where the game is going, no one to blame for how its evolved. there is truth and hypocrisy in everything we say.
You need these occasional broadsides from the likes of Andy though. If more money is never asked for then it sure as hell won't be forthcoming.
No publicity is bad publicity!!!,well done Mr Holt ,got us in papers,radio and TV !!!
Alot of fans from other clubs coming out in support of Andy, obviously the prem fans are disagreeing but even other chairmans are coming out and agreeing with him, he is showing little old accy are no longer a walkover, we're going to fight for what we believe in
There you go, criticize the pl for wasting money and pl threaten to take away what you already receive, if this situation came up at work place I think it would probably result in the case being taken to an employment tribunal. I agree with Andy arrogant bullying tactics from the pl
I heard it. Even called in this morning as they were still going on about it.
Good for you Andy. We should be mighty proud that we have a chairman who is willing to gob off at the inequalities in football.
Most Chairmen sit meekly in their offices and hold their plates out ready for the scraps to fall down - without them their clubs would crash and burn.
I cancelled Sky Sports immediately upon reading the PL response to Andy
Good for you Andy. We should be mighty proud that we have a chairman who is willing to gob off at the inequalities in football.
Most Chairmen sit meekly in their offices and hold their plates out ready for the scraps to fall down - without them their clubs would crash and burn.
I cancelled Sky Sports immediately upon reading the PL response to Andy
He isn't on any of them I've listened
Its only a 41 minute segment of a 4 hour show
I thought he came across well in the interview but I had rxpected him to be in for a rough ride. The general feeling is a sympathetic one although nobody expects anything to change.
Ive a feeling this is going to run and run, and unfortunately there can only be one winner
Didn't catch it all but they were blathering about the issue on Radio 5 Live just now.
The PL seem to assume that Andy Holt is demanding more money. But could his point be that, by constantly ramping up player wages, transfer fees, payments to agents, etc, etc, the knock on financial effect is crippling those outside the PL.
It's inevitable that some clubs will be wealthier than others, but that do the likes of MUFC etc need to inflate the cost of the entire game to stratospheric levels? (Bit like the cost of Mayfair houses knocking on the costs across London, then that inflating house prices across the country)
Is it because the big clubs are not clubs, as fans understand the term, that it's in their corporate financial interest to inflate the 'value' of their assets? So constantly upping the stakes is to their global business advantage.
Having said that, the PL has actually done well to distribute the TV money amongst all 20 of its current members. If it hadn't, by now there might have been a Global Premiership with franchised teams playing around the world with tourists for crowds and 'fans' paying to view online.
Heh ho, 'twas ever thus. 55 years ago it was a pittance (was it £65K?) that sank Stanley.
The PL seem to assume that Andy Holt is demanding more money. But could his point be that, by constantly ramping up player wages, transfer fees, payments to agents, etc, etc, the knock on financial effect is crippling those outside the PL.
It's inevitable that some clubs will be wealthier than others, but that do the likes of MUFC etc need to inflate the cost of the entire game to stratospheric levels? (Bit like the cost of Mayfair houses knocking on the costs across London, then that inflating house prices across the country)
Is it because the big clubs are not clubs, as fans understand the term, that it's in their corporate financial interest to inflate the 'value' of their assets? So constantly upping the stakes is to their global business advantage.
Having said that, the PL has actually done well to distribute the TV money amongst all 20 of its current members. If it hadn't, by now there might have been a Global Premiership with franchised teams playing around the world with tourists for crowds and 'fans' paying to view online.
Heh ho, 'twas ever thus. 55 years ago it was a pittance (was it £65K?) that sank Stanley.
At some point the fans, or the sky paying customers, will turn on them - when that happens there'll be holy hell paid with the medium to big clubs bleating for government handouts. Itv Digital flopping will be nothing compared to The Sky caving in
Fans of the big clubs won't though and fans of the smaller clubs won't matter. I cancelled Skysports over 10 years ago and have never had BT sport and it's made no difference. Pubs pay silly money for it or people go elsewhere and people worldwide will always want to watch the big clubs due to the hype in the same way as people here also watch Barca or Real or Bayern to a lesser extent.
ITV digital flopped because they paid too much for Football League games that people didn't want to watch and those clubs suffered but it had no real effect on the Premiership.
We can wish the EPL to flop because we aren't part of it but that doesn't mean it will happen more's the pity. It's more likely that they will tell the EFL to sod off and that is where it will be a real cave in.
With all the foreign players the EPL bring in, the EFL is the future or the national team, thus deserve more funding, without the lower league teams England wouldn't have players like vardy and smalling, even Joe hart started at Shrewsbury, we provide the future stars and we need more money to improve facilities and produce better stars
Spot on St0zie!
Some Premiership teams barely feature a natural born Brit in their squad.
The idea of the PL was to allow the big city clubs to get even richer.
Without doubt it's been successful due to TV money, but most of the wealth generated has gone to pay for foreign players earning obscene wages.
Even the managers are now largely foreign.
Then so called football pundits moan about the lack of quality English born players & managers available to the national squad.
The PL seem to feel they are somehow divorced from the rest of the EFL, but football is still pyramid based with every league cherry-picking the best players, usually from a lower league.
League 2, and indeed even the Conference, are just as important to the welfare of English football as the PL.
Andy Holt has invested his own money keeping ASFC afloat. Why is his opinion any less important than say Jose Mourinho?
Andy's figure of £900k will be accurate as he's working with the figures.
The quote of £400k more than usual is totally incorrect!
not sure who Andy holy is, should it read Holy Andy
Sure this season he came out and said we was on a budget of half a million